DBM or DBS(Tournaments)

[The_Destroyer]

Well Multiverse has Bra and the ToP has Caulifla and Kale, I don't like both of them, but ignoring that:

Multiverse does have some issues. Vegito, Broly, SSj3 Evil Vegeta, are some of the issues I have with it. But at least they show the fights between members that are not from the main one. Unlike super, where it's just a U7/U6 wankfest. Hard to choose really.

[Dragonballgod19]

I feel if DBM was both official and an animated series, and DBS's tournament arc was the fanfiction, that would greatly influence people's opinions towards them both. There will always be that bias over fan work. That said, most serious fan works I've personally seen have been godawful, with DBM being an exception, and probably the holy grail in the fan-made community.

Anyways, on-topic, both tournaments have their flaws. DBS is a cluster fuck with no rhyme or reason, and despite people clamoring about all the new characters, they're pretty much all uninspired or straight fodder, so that's not much of a pro at all. As for DBM, the tournament isn't just an arc in the series; it IS the series. Naturally, it's dragged out. And considering it takes ages for chapters to end since it's made by a couple of fans, that's not going to change anytime soon. Had the entire series been finished by now, I'd probably say DBM is hands down better than 80% of Super (20% being the Black arc).

Both are still ongoing, so I don't have an opinion one way or another. DBS's tournament, in particular, just started so it's unfair to rate the arc as a whole.

Yeah no multiverse literally has too many problems first off it's boring as hell honestly and the specials are beyond pathetic and annoying they literally spam a special for months when a fight is going on and especially the Vegetto ones. He is trying so hard to make him and his Mary sue daughter badass that they are like the least liked characters in it. Which is sad for Bra because bra actually had potential I'm talking about vegeta daughter not vegito and it literally makes no sense how u16 bra looks like vegeta daughter.

[Dragonballgod19]

And to make it worse the characters in multiverse are boring and nothing but fodder my god at least super brings as new characters that the fanbase really likes unlike multiverse which has the same characters and are even worse,like first off bra younger than pan I don't know wtf there doing and dbs bulla is better than multiverse bra and she's only a baby.

[The_Destroyer]

And to make it worse the characters in multiverse are boring and nothing but fodder my god at least super brings as new characters that the fanbase really likes unlike multiverse which has the same characters and are even worse,like first off bra younger than pan I don't know wtf there doing and dbs bulla is better than multiverse bra and she's only a baby.

Most of the new fighters in ToP are fodder. They dont have any interesting abilites and just get taken out with a punch. They hype up characters like Murichim and Nigirishi and they end up being Fodder who dont do anything. At least the fodder in multiverse actually have decent fights.

[Gog]

Conceptually I much prefer how the ToP is such a free for all every man for himself. It leads to awesome scenarios in the battles itself, like Bota Magnetta, Nink's attempted "kill" on Goku, and it helps to hammer home the use of strategy as anyone, and everyone can interrupt your battle. I also prefer the rules, how healing items are not allowed, same with weapons. Even how the arena itself slowly gets more, and more broken throughout the whole entire battle, leads to a greater sense of visual escalation, and hopefully strategy and I much prefer that to how Multiverse has it healed after every round.

The fighters themselves are far more colorful and diverse than those in Multiverse (shame they keep on getting offed so quickly). But, the fighters in Multiverse all have proper backstory, and character personalities. Also, Freeza's not a butt monkey in the ToP, and is treated as a serious part of the narrative, so the ToP wins for me!

[Dragonballgod19]

And to make it worse the characters in multiverse are boring and nothing but fodder my god at least super brings as new characters that the fanbase really likes unlike multiverse which has the same characters and are even worse,like first off bra younger than pan I don't know wtf there doing and dbs bulla is better than multiverse bra and she's only a baby.

Most of the new fighters in ToP are fodder. They dont have any interesting abilites and just get taken out with a punch. They hype up characters like Murichim and Nigirishi and they end up being Fodder who dont do anything. At least the fodder in multiverse actually have decent fights.

True but dragon ball always does that and are you serious we saw a ton of new abilities in this tournament especially in this episode if anything multiverse lacks unique abilities and characters

[Dragonballgod19]

Conceptually I much prefer how the ToP is such a free for all every man for himself. It leads to awesome scenarios in the battles itself, like Bota Magnetta, Nink's attempted "kill" on Goku, and it helps to hammer home the use of strategy as anyone, and everyone can interrupt your battle. I also prefer the rules, how healing items are not allowed, same with weapons. Even how the arena itself slowly gets more, and more broken throughout the whole entire battle, leads to a greater sense of visual escalation, and hopefully strategy and I much prefer that to how Multiverse has it healed after every round.

The fighters themselves are far more colorful and diverse than those in Multiverse (shame they keep on getting offed so quickly). But, the fighters in Multiverse all have proper backstory, and character personalities. Also, Freeza's not a butt monkey in the ToP, and is treated as a serious part of the narrative, so the ToP wins for me.

The problem with multiverse is that the creator has a hard on for u16 bra and always crap on u18 bra and I notice how vegito and her gets more focused than anyone and in my opinion dragon ball super bulla is better than multiverse bulla even though she's a baby

[The_Destroyer]

And to make it worse the characters in multiverse are boring and nothing but fodder my god at least super brings as new characters that the fanbase really likes unlike multiverse which has the same characters and are even worse,like first off bra younger than pan I don't know wtf there doing and dbs bulla is better than multiverse bra and she's only a baby.

Most of the new fighters in ToP are fodder. They dont have any interesting abilites and just get taken out with a punch. They hype up characters like Murichim and Nigirishi and they end up being Fodder who dont do anything. At least the fodder in multiverse actually have decent fights.

True but dragon ball always does that and are you serious we saw a ton of new abilities in this tournament especially in this episode if anything multiverse lacks unique abilities and characters

Well yeah the pride troopers do have unique abilities, but what about the other universes? 10 only had one fleshed out character and he's gone. 3 only had two and they're both gone. Despite their designs not being unique, beyond that I could argue a lot of the multiverse characters are more unique since they're more fleshed out actually have fights. Here only 7 and 6 actually get good fights. If it weren't for Bra,Vegito,Broly, and ssj3 evil Vegeta i'd say multiverse may be betterm

[Gog]

The problem with multiverse is that the creator has a hard on for u16 bra and always crap on u18 bra and I notice how vegito and her gets more focused than anyone and in my opinion dragon ball super bulla is better than multiverse bulla even though she's a baby

How does this relate to the question at hand? Whenever or not Slagir focuses more on U16 Bra, and Vegetto than the other cast isn't related to the question of this thread.

[fadeddreams5]

I feel if DBM was both official and an animated series, and DBS's tournament arc was the fanfiction, that would greatly influence people's opinions towards them both. There will always be that bias over fan work. That said, most serious fan works I've personally seen have been godawful, with DBM being an exception, and probably the holy grail in the fan-made community.

Anyways, on-topic, both tournaments have their flaws. DBS is a cluster fuck with no rhyme or reason, and despite people clamoring about all the new characters, they're pretty much all uninspired or straight fodder, so that's not much of a pro at all. As for DBM, the tournament isn't just an arc in the series; it IS the series. Naturally, it's dragged out. And considering it takes ages for chapters to end since it's made by a couple of fans, that's not going to change anytime soon. Had the entire series been finished by now, I'd probably say DBM is hands down better than 80% of Super (20% being the Black arc).

Both are still ongoing, so I don't have an opinion one way or another. DBS's tournament, in particular, just started so it's unfair to rate the arc as a whole.

Yeah no multiverse literally has too many problems first off it's boring as hell honestly and the specials are beyond pathetic and annoying they literally spam a special for months when a fight is going on and especially the Vegetto ones. He is trying so hard to make him and his Mary sue daughter badass that they are like the least liked characters in it. Which is sad for Bra because bra actually had potential I'm talking about vegeta daughter not vegito and it literally makes no sense how u16 bra looks like vegeta daughter.

I wasn't really counting the specials in my post, tbh. Those are done to have something in between while the main writer and artist take a break. In the end of the day, they're just fans who do this as a hobby. Hence, the specials are "spammed" for a month and change while they do that thing called life.

As for boring, imagine if this DBS arc was just a manga and the same exact events occurred. The uninspired fighting is already making this dull, despite it being animated.

[Dragonballgod19]

I feel if DBM was both official and an animated series, and DBS's tournament arc was the fanfiction, that would greatly influence people's opinions towards them both. There will always be that bias over fan work. That said, most serious fan works I've personally seen have been godawful, with DBM being an exception, and probably the holy grail in the fan-made community.

Anyways, on-topic, both tournaments have their flaws. DBS is a cluster fuck with no rhyme or reason, and despite people clamoring about all the new characters, they're pretty much all uninspired or straight fodder, so that's not much of a pro at all. As for DBM, the tournament isn't just an arc in the series; it IS the series. Naturally, it's dragged out. And considering it takes ages for chapters to end since it's made by a couple of fans, that's not going to change anytime soon. Had the entire series been finished by now, I'd probably say DBM is hands down better than 80% of Super (20% being the Black arc).

Both are still ongoing, so I don't have an opinion one way or another. DBS's tournament, in particular, just started so it's unfair to rate the arc as a whole.

Yeah no multiverse literally has too many problems first off it's boring as hell honestly and the specials are beyond pathetic and annoying they literally spam a special for months when a fight is going on and especially the Vegetto ones. He is trying so hard to make him and his Mary sue daughter badass that they are like the least liked characters in it. Which is sad for Bra because bra actually had potential I'm talking about vegeta daughter not vegito and it literally makes no sense how u16 bra looks like vegeta daughter.

I wasn't really counting the specials in my post, tbh. Those are done to have something in between while the main writer and artist take a break. In the end of the day, they're just fans who do this as a hobby. Hence, the specials are "spammed" for a month and change while they do that thing called life.

As for boring, imagine if this DBS arc was just a manga and the same exact events occurred. The uninspired fighting is already making this dull, despite it being animated.

Yeah but I just wish they do specials people actually want to see

[Lord Beerus]

I never really cared for Multiverse as I find the whole story to dragged out to absurd lengths. I doesn't help that I find most of the characters boring in either design or personality. The Tournament Of Power may not have the depth of backstory that Multiverse may have, but it more than makes up for it with fresh and wonderful character designs, fantastic character interactions, unpredictable narrative and grand atmosphere.

[HeroR]

I never really cared for Multiverse as I find the whole story to dragged out to absurd lengths. I doesn't help that I find most of the characters boring in either design or personality. The Tournament Of Power may not have the depth of backstory that Multiverse may have, but it more than makes up for it with fresh and wonderful character designs, fantastic character interactions, unpredictable narrative and grand atmosphere.

Most of the 'depth and backstory' of multiverse is build on 'What Ifs' of character we know instead of completely new or original characters. The characters that are original to Multiverse are extremely shallow or just outright assholes, looking at you U16 Bra.

[Kanassa]

I never really cared for Multiverse as I find the whole story to dragged out to absurd lengths. I doesn't help that I find most of the characters boring in either design or personality. The Tournament Of Power may not have the depth of backstory that Multiverse may have, but it more than makes up for it with fresh and wonderful character designs, fantastic character interactions, unpredictable narrative and grand atmosphere.

Most of the 'depth and backstory' of multiverse is build on 'What Ifs' of character we know instead of completely new or original characters. The characters that are original to Multiverse are extremely shallow or just outright assholes, looking at you U16 Bra.

And even then that 'depth' from most of the what if's is simply "They won the battle they didn't lose and so they're not dead!"

[sangofe]

Ignoring the fact that it's a fan fiction, which tournament has been better for you? ToP or Multiverse tournament

I like both. But if I have to choose I'd say Dragon Ball Super because it feels more like Dragon Ball than dbm.