"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by TheOne » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:13 pm

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JulianStyles wrote: Tien can hold his own against Piccolo. Disappointed episode 90 didnt let them fight. I do hope we see a team up with them. I'm hoping one of the Androids get eliminated next.
Uh, no. Piccolo can fight a SSJ2 Gohan with ease. Tien can't even dream of touching base Gohan.

Tien's an awesome character, but let's not be ridiculous here.
I'm glad I'm not crazy. I didn't see how it could be possible.
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Post by Totamo » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:44 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Omitting Goku from the story would be stupid in all points.

I think they should have Goku become a support character(like how Joseph was in JJBA Part 3, Jotaro in Part 4 and 6, Polnareff in Part 5).

Or look at Boruto, they have Naruto and Sasuke as support characters too.
And they are both boring because of it.


You can't put Goku in a support role, you would have to subdue basically everything about him.

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Post by JulianStyles » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:59 pm

TheOne wrote:
King Jacku wrote:
JulianStyles wrote: Tien can hold his own against Piccolo. Disappointed episode 90 didnt let them fight. I do hope we see a team up with them. I'm hoping one of the Androids get eliminated next.
Uh, no. Piccolo can fight a SSJ2 Gohan with ease. Tien can't even dream of touching base Gohan.

Tien's an awesome character, but let's not be ridiculous here.
I'm glad I'm not crazy. Can't believe I read someone on these boards type such atrocities
Not saying Tien would win. The Base Gohan we saw was different. Supreme Kai told him when he first unlocked mystic that he now has access to all his power. So he doesnt need to transform into SS. So Gohan looking like hes base couldve been using SS level power. And Tien was not KOed as he was fully conscious and alert after 3 attacks by Gohan.

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Post by Jigurashi » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:24 pm

JulianStyles wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
I don't think there's something below Piccolo level. He's the guy who quit a tournament without doing anything just to give Vegeta more screentime (but thankfully Xenoverse 2 fixed that).
Tenshinhan is in the Piccolo level. Below Piccolo level would be Yamcha level.
Tien can hold his own against Piccolo. Disappointed episode 90 didnt let them fight. I do hope we see a team up with them. I'm hoping one of the Androids get eliminated next.
Ten hasn't done a damn thing to prove he can hold his own against a guy who choked out SSJ2 Gohan. As far as Ten being eliminated is concerned, don't care when he leaves as long as he gets more than what he's gotten already. An elimination on his part is nice, but I want more.
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Grimlock wrote:
I don't think there's something below Piccolo level. He's the guy who quit a tournament without doing anything just to give Vegeta more screentime (but thankfully Xenoverse 2 fixed that).
Tenshinhan is in the Piccolo level. Below Piccolo level would be Yamcha level.
You mean in terms of power or something else?
In the way he's been treated. Power wise, Piccolo tears Tenshinhan apart with ridiculous ease.

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Post by Lionel » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:05 pm

Sure Tenshinhan could win. He develops his extra appendages, blinds Piccolo with the Taiyoken, and then proceeds to use Kyushojutsu to strike fatal regions of the anatomical meridian system like with Commotio Cordis. Don't just punch your opponent in the face like what over 90% of the cast seems to do. Use what you know about martial arts to attack the regions of body that can't be strengthened.

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Post by Noah » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:33 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Sorry if I already mentioned this.

If Tenshinhan is the next one eliminated then Vegeta might likely lose to Brianne.
If Roshi is the next one that gets canned, then Vegeta wont lose vs Brianne.
Its basically between Tenshinhan and Roshi that will decide what will be Vegetas fate in the ToP.
I'm sorry, but do you work at Toei? Has some privileged information we don't know about? Cause frankly what you said doesn't make any sense. So if this is a theory, please explain.
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Post by TheOne » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:53 pm

Lionel wrote:Sure Tenshinhan could win. He develops his extra appendages, blinds Piccolo with the Taiyoken, and then proceeds to use Kyushojutsu to strike fatal regions of the anatomical meridian system like with Commotio Cordis. Don't just punch your opponent in the face like what over 90% of the cast seems to do. Use what you know about martial arts to attack the regions of body that can't be strengthened.
My goodness. You are delusional. And Piccolo is going to just let him do this?

Look how irrelevant Tien has been throughout the series. Even with Cell, Piccolo was mountains above him.
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Post by MainJPW » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:19 am

Lionel wrote:Sure Tenshinhan could win. He develops his extra appendages, blinds Piccolo with the Taiyoken, and then proceeds to use Kyushojutsu to strike fatal regions of the anatomical meridian system like with Commotio Cordis. Don't just punch your opponent in the face like what over 90% of the cast seems to do. Use what you know about martial arts to attack the regions of body that can't be strengthened.
Why just Tenshinhan? You could say the same for Piccolo and all the unique abilities he doesn't even use (growing, transmutation, telekinesis), and with all the experience of God, Nail and Piccolo Daimaō combined Piccolo should be one of the most impressive martial artists in the series after being reincarnated and merging. If the characters in Dragon Ball used actual martial arts more often instead of just being super powered brawlers then the fights would be far more interesting that's for sure.

TheOne wrote: My goodness. You are delusional. And Piccolo is going to just let him do this?

Look how irrelevant Tien has been throughout the series. Even with Cell, Piccolo was mountains above him.
Calm down. He's just listing ways Tenshinhan could win using techniques, not that he would given that 99% of the time fights come down to "my power level's bigger than yours".

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Post by Lionel » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:29 am

It's not a matter of narrative relevancy but what either character is capable of doing in a fight. I cited physically unbuildable segments of the body for a reason like the larynx, temple, and trachea. More importantly, Tenshinhan should not be attacking the external defences, which seems to be the predilection for virtually everyone in this series, but aiming for the most vulnerable regions using meridian points to attack arteries and organs. For example, attacking the trachea and disrupting the respiratory system could potentially induce unconsciousness.

It's interesting you cited Cell as Piccolo seemed all to willing to allow him to use the Taiyoken rather than immediately plunge his fist into the bio-monster's skull. These characters are hardly ever rational. If they were then most of the tension would be sucked out of the fights as the "heroes" are using the practical techniques and strategies to kill or nip a threat in the bud rather than let it fester in the hopes of gleaning a "good" fight.

MainJPW: Most of those are examples of mystical transformative traits exclusive to Namekian physiology. I think it would be more appropriate to compare those with a puffer fish ingesting water to increase its size for intimidation purposes, not human constructed technical martial arts. Also, I never really saw much to distinguish Piccolo's "style" from anyone else's in this series except for the obvious changes in name for Ki blasts which largely overlap each other in damage type anyway. The hand-to-hand combat system in Dragon Ball is, for the most part, universalised with only an occasional hiccup like the stances.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:38 am

Shinda Forever wrote: Piccolo was reduced to be another Tenshinhan. He is fucked.
I'll admit that I haven't followed the series as carefully to see what would make people think that aside from them simply getting grouped together because non-saiyans, so I'm not gonna argue. Ever since I've seen them bring back Roshi as a fighter and hold his own against Freeza's henchmen, I realized the writers would play with power levels as they see fit, and any given character would be as strong or as weak as the story needed them to be. Also, I didn't mean to start a power debate.

But my point still stands: Piccolo has fans, he's one of the most recognizable and popular characters of the franchise, it's simply stands to reason that there would be some outcry. The only thing I can think of that would keep that from being too loud, is that a lot of people have resigned themselves to seeing him and other non-saiyans getting treated like this.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:49 am

Totamo wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Omitting Goku from the story would be stupid in all points.

I think they should have Goku become a support character(like how Joseph was in JJBA Part 3, Jotaro in Part 4 and 6, Polnareff in Part 5).

Or look at Boruto, they have Naruto and Sasuke as support characters too.
And they are both boring because of it.


You can't put Goku in a support role, you would have to subdue basically everything about him.
Did you seriously just call Jojo boring? "Careful how you proceed, good man
Intemperate indeed, good man
Answer for the accusations I lay at your feet or
Prepare to bleed, good man"

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Post by Simere » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:57 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Totamo wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Omitting Goku from the story would be stupid in all points.

I think they should have Goku become a support character(like how Joseph was in JJBA Part 3, Jotaro in Part 4 and 6, Polnareff in Part 5).

Or look at Boruto, they have Naruto and Sasuke as support characters too.
And they are both boring because of it.


You can't put Goku in a support role, you would have to subdue basically everything about him.
Did you seriously just call Jojo boring? "Careful how you proceed, good man
Intemperate indeed, good man
Answer for the accusations I lay at your feet or
Prepare to bleed, good man"
He was calling Naruto and Sasuke in Boruto boring.

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Post by Totamo » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:27 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Totamo wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Omitting Goku from the story would be stupid in all points.

I think they should have Goku become a support character(like how Joseph was in JJBA Part 3, Jotaro in Part 4 and 6, Polnareff in Part 5).

Or look at Boruto, they have Naruto and Sasuke as support characters too.
And they are both boring because of it.


You can't put Goku in a support role, you would have to subdue basically everything about him.
Did you seriously just call Jojo boring? "Careful how you proceed, good man
Intemperate indeed, good man
Answer for the accusations I lay at your feet or
Prepare to bleed, good man"
No, Naruto and sasuke are now boring, the only boring jojo was jonathan and that was because we didn't spent nearly as much time as we should have

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Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:41 am

Totamo wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Totamo wrote: And they are both boring because of it.


You can't put Goku in a support role, you would have to subdue basically everything about him.
Did you seriously just call Jojo boring? "Careful how you proceed, good man
Intemperate indeed, good man
Answer for the accusations I lay at your feet or
Prepare to bleed, good man"
No, Naruto and sasuke are now boring, the only boring jojo was jonathan and that was because we didn't spent nearly as much time as we should have
Oh, well never mind then. XD

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:57 am

Noah wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:More Jigsaw puzzle art:
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This looks more like Dragon Ball Detective to me :P
I would love it if they made an off season episode based on this or something. Could be so much fun.

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Post by TheOne » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:35 am

Totamo wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Totamo wrote: And they are both boring because of it.


You can't put Goku in a support role, you would have to subdue basically everything about him.
Did you seriously just call Jojo boring? "Careful how you proceed, good man
Intemperate indeed, good man
Answer for the accusations I lay at your feet or
Prepare to bleed, good man"
No, Naruto and sasuke are now boring, the only boring jojo was jonathan and that was because we didn't spent nearly as much time as we should have
They're boring now because it peace time. As you can tell things will start to pick up.
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Post by Totamo » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:50 am

TheOne wrote:
Totamo wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote: Did you seriously just call Jojo boring? "Careful how you proceed, good man
Intemperate indeed, good man
Answer for the accusations I lay at your feet or
Prepare to bleed, good man"
No, Naruto and sasuke are now boring, the only boring jojo was jonathan and that was because we didn't spent nearly as much time as we should have
They're boring now because it peace time. As you can tell things will start to pick up.
But I watched the Boruto movie and they were boring back then too.

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Post by Dragonballgod19 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:06 am

Totamo wrote:
TheOne wrote:
Totamo wrote: No, Naruto and sasuke are now boring, the only boring jojo was jonathan and that was because we didn't spent nearly as much time as we should have
They're boring now because it peace time. As you can tell things will start to pick up.
But I watched the Boruto movie and they were boring back then too.
Agree and boruto has boring after episode 1 literally.

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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:42 am

Noah wrote: I'm sorry, but do you work at Toei? Has some privileged information we don't know about? Cause frankly what you said doesn't make any sense. So if this is a theory, please explain.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:More Jigsaw puzzle art:
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This looks more like Dragon Ball Detective to me :P
Oh I'm basing my predictions of Toshios comments, DBS/DBH Openings and ending.

We should know what will be the fate of the humans tomorrow when Episode 103 preview comes out.

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