Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

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Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by IntangibleFancy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:02 pm

All the other Supreme Kais look like 7th graders. What happened to these two?
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by MaskedRider » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:04 pm

I think Gowasu's time was coming, hence Zamasu but we all know how that turned out.

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Post by IntangibleFancy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:08 pm

MaskedRider wrote:I think Gowasu's time was coming, hence Zamasu but we all know how that turned out.
Isn't Zamasu a king kai?
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by KingKaash » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:14 pm

I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

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KingKaash wrote:I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
Nothing implied that he even fought the likes of Jiren, Hit, or Toppo. Black just said he's killed mortals on other worlds before, but he didn't kill all mortals.

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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by KingKaash » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:52 pm

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KingKaash wrote:I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
Nothing implied that he even fought the likes of Jiren, Hit, or Toppo. Black just said he's killed mortals on other worlds before, but he didn't kill all mortals.
But you would think that the Pride Troopers, who are the defenders of Universe 11, would hear of the murder of the Supreme Kai and God of Destruction and several mortals and respond to it by seeing what it's about.

And for the record, I think Jiren would annihilate Goku Black
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:10 am

I think Kais do age over time in a very slow rate. Elder Kaioshin mention that he had like 10,000 years left or something similar to that when he give his life away to Goku.
KingKaash wrote:I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
Zamasu being immortal probably took care of Jiren.
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by The_Destroyer » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:23 am

KingKaash wrote:
The_Destroyer wrote:
KingKaash wrote:I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
Nothing implied that he even fought the likes of Jiren, Hit, or Toppo. Black just said he's killed mortals on other worlds before, but he didn't kill all mortals.
But you would think that the Pride Troopers, who are the defenders of Universe 11, would hear of the murder of the Supreme Kai and God of Destruction and several mortals and respond to it by seeing what it's about.

And for the record, I think Jiren would annihilate Goku Black
I mean there's nothing they could really do. They dont know the location of Black after he killed their GoD.

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Post by Akyon » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:11 am

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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by Neon Z » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:53 am

The_Destroyer wrote:
KingKaash wrote:I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
Nothing implied that he even fought the likes of Jiren, Hit, or Toppo. Black just said he's killed mortals on other worlds before, but he didn't kill all mortals.
He does say a couple of times that the Zero Mortals Plan would be concluded that very day or when they're done with Earth.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:04 am

KingKaash wrote:
The_Destroyer wrote:
KingKaash wrote:I think that's why Zamasu was lined up to take over for Gowasu.

One thing I never understood though was how Goku Black was able to defeat Jiren in Universe 11. I understand he killed the Kai and therefore eliminated Belmod. So maybe he never came across Jiren and the Pride Troopers after doing that. But it kinda doesn't make sense
Nothing implied that he even fought the likes of Jiren, Hit, or Toppo. Black just said he's killed mortals on other worlds before, but he didn't kill all mortals.
But you would think that the Pride Troopers, who are the defenders of Universe 11, would hear of the murder of the Supreme Kai and God of Destruction and several mortals and respond to it by seeing what it's about.

And for the record, I think Jiren would annihilate Goku Black

Zamasu is immortal. Maybe he just played dead, got up and destroyed Jiren as he walked away. Who knows. Maybe they didnt even cross paths.
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by Xeogran » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:11 am

Neon Z wrote:He does say a couple of times that the Zero Mortals Plan would be concluded that very day or when they're done with Earth.
Maybe Zamasu makes a new Zero Mortals Plan for each Universe he visits :lol:

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Post by dbgtFO » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:33 am

Who is Peru?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:01 am

dbgtFO wrote:Who is Peru?
The Kaioshin of Universe 2

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Lord Beerus wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Who is Peru?
The Kaioshin of Universe 2
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by TheOne » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:41 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
KingKaash wrote:
The_Destroyer wrote: Nothing implied that he even fought the likes of Jiren, Hit, or Toppo. Black just said he's killed mortals on other worlds before, but he didn't kill all mortals.
But you would think that the Pride Troopers, who are the defenders of Universe 11, would hear of the murder of the Supreme Kai and God of Destruction and several mortals and respond to it by seeing what it's about.

And for the record, I think Jiren would annihilate Goku Black

Zamasu is immortal. Maybe he just played dead, got up and destroyed Jiren as he walked away. Who knows. Maybe they didnt even cross paths.

I don't recall it ever saying that he killed all the mortals in every universe. Toei wouldn't be dumb enough to say something like that knowing how powerful everyone is in the top tier universes.

If they used the word "worlds" that could mean worlds in U7 and U10.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:54 pm

TheOne wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
KingKaash wrote:
But you would think that the Pride Troopers, who are the defenders of Universe 11, would hear of the murder of the Supreme Kai and God of Destruction and several mortals and respond to it by seeing what it's about.

And for the record, I think Jiren would annihilate Goku Black

Zamasu is immortal. Maybe he just played dead, got up and destroyed Jiren as he walked away. Who knows. Maybe they didnt even cross paths.

I don't recall it ever saying that he killed all the mortals in every universe. Toei wouldn't be dumb enough to say something like that knowing how powerful everyone is in the top tier universes.

If they used the word "worlds" that could mean worlds in U7 and U10.
Yeah I'm not saying they did, just that if someone does believe that there are ways around it. I'm of the opinion he killed the Gods and then disappeared from each universe before taking out some of the weaker ones first.
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GodKaio-Ken wrote:
TheOne wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:

Zamasu is immortal. Maybe he just played dead, got up and destroyed Jiren as he walked away. Who knows. Maybe they didnt even cross paths.

I don't recall it ever saying that he killed all the mortals in every universe. Toei wouldn't be dumb enough to say something like that knowing how powerful everyone is in the top tier universes.

If they used the word "worlds" that could mean worlds in U7 and U10.
Yeah I'm not saying they did, just that if someone does believe that there are ways around it. I'm of the opinion he killed the Gods and then disappeared from each universe before taking out some of the weaker ones first.
Right. I think my response was geared towards King Kash. I was too lazy to go back up and find his comment lol
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by KingKaash » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:02 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
TheOne wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:

Zamasu is immortal. Maybe he just played dead, got up and destroyed Jiren as he walked away. Who knows. Maybe they didnt even cross paths.

I don't recall it ever saying that he killed all the mortals in every universe. Toei wouldn't be dumb enough to say something like that knowing how powerful everyone is in the top tier universes.

If they used the word "worlds" that could mean worlds in U7 and U10.
Yeah I'm not saying they did, just that if someone does believe that there are ways around it. I'm of the opinion he killed the Gods and then disappeared from each universe before taking out some of the weaker ones first.
I can totally see this being the case. He probably killed the Gods and then went to the next Universe before someone could react.

As far as Invincible Zamasu vs Jiren, I guess Jiren would lose to someone who doesn't feel pain and doesn't take damage.
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Re: Why are Peru and Gowasu so old?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:03 pm

I remember that Elder Kaioshin said that he only has a few thousand years left himself in the Buu saga. I would imagine Kais do age over time very very slowly while the GoD probably stay the same age until the Kaioshin is dead.
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