"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Hawk9211 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:18 am

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About as well as this piece of garbage post. It'd be excellent if you could stay out of this thread unless you have some sort of meaningful thoughts/criticism to offer.
My god, it sucks so bad. Twelve Hakaishins fighting each other, how dare he write something as boring as that. Man, and the poses, can't he ever draw anything original. Not even one original technique, they are just flying and jumping around. Beerus is stronger than the rest, horrible. It's shit.
I know he won't see this because he said he's gone from here, but, um, Toyotaro has to follow the general plot outlines & plot points that Toriyama gives him. He can't change much from that & he can't really introduce any new techniques unless Toriyama invents one. He can only really change how the ones that get used are used. The manga's meant to be promo material for the anime after all.
If you have read Basako's previos posts then you will know that either it is sarcasm or he is trolling.
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:22 am

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Basako wrote: My god, it sucks so bad. Twelve Hakaishins fighting each other, how dare he write something as boring as that. Man, and the poses, can't he ever draw anything original. Not even one original technique, they are just flying and jumping around. Beerus is stronger than the rest, horrible. It's shit.
I know he won't see this because he said he's gone from here, but, um, Toyotaro has to follow the general plot outlines & plot points that Toriyama gives him. He can't change much from that & he can't really introduce any new techniques unless Toriyama invents one. He can only really change how the ones that get used are used. The manga's meant to be promo material for the anime after all.
If you have read Basako's previos posts then you will know that either it is sarcasm or he is trolling.
I haven't, but I hate blatant stupidity, so it doesn't really matter to me.
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Post by mute_proxy » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:55 am

Scsigs wrote: I know he won't see this because he said he's gone from here, but, um, Toyotaro has to follow the general plot outlines & plot points that Toriyama gives him. He can't change much from that & he can't really introduce any new techniques unless Toriyama invents one. He can only really change how the ones that get used are used. The manga's meant to be promo material for the anime after all.
It already had stopped being promotional material at a certain point. And Toriyama has given Toyotaro the right to change things up and add his own ideas. It's like you haven't read any Super manga related news since 2016.

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Post by IntoTheFire » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:11 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:From the scans I saw, I can say I love Vermoud's characterizon here! I had so much expectations for his character, but Toei didn't do anything interesting with him.
I love how he's surrounded by girls like a pimp and he didn't hesitate to attack Sidra, even though Sidra was helping him during the fight.

Regardless if he turns out to be a guy that cares about justice in the manga too, this is a much more interesting approach to his character. I assume Toyo likes him considering his avatar in social media. I will take this as his apologize for have ruined Goku Black and Merged Zamasu in the manga.

I will judge the rest when I read the full chapter, but seems to be far above the joke that was the previous chapter.
Agreed. He was the most interesting god of the new bunch to me so I hoped we'd get to learn something more about him. Plus he is so evil looking but is the god of the destruction of the justice universe so that is pretty interesting as well. Lol, though. I'll now never be able to see Vermound without a harem of women surrounding him.
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Post by OLKv3 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:52 am

Just saw the full chapter, can't wait for the translation
I love that they acknowledged 2 Zenos, since I don't remember the gods ever even wondering in the anime
A lot of dialogue, this looks good

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Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:53 am

OLKv3 wrote:Just saw the full chapter, can't wait for the translation
I love that they acknowledged 2 Zenos, since I don't remember the gods ever even wondering in the anime
A lot of dialogue, this looks good
Where can I read it?

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Post by LightBing » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:11 am

There's a ton of dialogue, the translations can't come soon enough.

This chapter is all about knowing the Hakaishins, we even get to see some of their homes that's pretty neat. I'm glad that we get to know them a little better.

Apparently they all turn against Beerus because of Goku. Beerus is able to hold them off somewhat, it might be because of his "move without thinking training" and his battle smarts. Fight isn't over, Belmod has quite a personality it appears.

Again he need translations to fully evaluate this chapter, there's a lot and I mean a lot of talk.

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Post by Legion » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:25 am

Yeah i think that Beerus move without thinking against the Gods :think:

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Post by Namz » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:05 am

Well at least with the full chapter it doesn't appear Bills overwhelmed all the gods. He's clearly one of the strongest but he struggles anyway.

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Post by OLKv3 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:42 am

Namz wrote:Well at least with the full chapter it doesn't appear Bills overwhelmed all the gods. He's clearly one of the strongest but he struggles anyway.
Of course he didn't. The people flipping out over those 2 pages are the usual suspects who join the thread solely to whine about how much Toyo sucks

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Post by Duo » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:56 am

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Namz wrote:Well at least with the full chapter it doesn't appear Bills overwhelmed all the gods. He's clearly one of the strongest but he struggles anyway.
Of course he didn't. The people flipping out over those 2 pages are the usual suspects who join the thread solely to whine about how much Toyo sucks
To hell with the usual suspects. This thread should be for either fans of the content or legitimate critics thereof. The no-substance shit-talking has to stop. Looking at you, Basako and Noah.

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Post by OLKv3 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:04 am

Duo wrote:
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Namz wrote:Well at least with the full chapter it doesn't appear Bills overwhelmed all the gods. He's clearly one of the strongest but he struggles anyway.
Of course he didn't. The people flipping out over those 2 pages are the usual suspects who join the thread solely to whine about how much Toyo sucks
To hell with the usual suspects. This thread should be for either fans of the content or legitimate critics thereof. The no-substance shit-talking has to stop. Looking at you, Basako and Noah.
Basako likes the manga though. His last posts calling it a piece of shit were more him mocking what usually happens in this thread, which is shit flinging and people trolling. Or something, idk what went on but I do know he likes the manga and has legit criticisms

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Post by TheMikado » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:07 am

Duo wrote:
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Namz wrote:Well at least with the full chapter it doesn't appear Bills overwhelmed all the gods. He's clearly one of the strongest but he struggles anyway.
Of course he didn't. The people flipping out over those 2 pages are the usual suspects who join the thread solely to whine about how much Toyo sucks
To hell with the usual suspects. This thread should be for either fans of the content or legitimate critics thereof. The no-substance shit-talking has to stop. Looking at you, Basako and Noah.
Eh, I don't think the manga needs any defenders since it can stand on its own merits.

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Post by Duo » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:10 am

OLKv3 wrote:
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OLKv3 wrote: Of course he didn't. The people flipping out over those 2 pages are the usual suspects who join the thread solely to whine about how much Toyo sucks
To hell with the usual suspects. This thread should be for either fans of the content or legitimate critics thereof. The no-substance shit-talking has to stop. Looking at you, Basako and Noah.
Basako likes the manga though. His last posts calling it a piece of shit were more him mocking what usually happens in this thread, which is shit flinging and people trolling. Or something, idk what went on but I do know he likes the manga and has legit criticisms
My apologies for not picking up the subtext on that post, then. I can appreciate parody, but the post that pissed me off swung far beyond readable context.
TheMikado wrote:Eh, I don't think the manga needs any defenders since it can stand on its own merits.
That's not what I'm talking about. Just looking for a reasonable discussion.

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Post by Draconic » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:21 am

This fight is probably the way they'll determine what Universes are going to participate in the Tournament of Power. Sidra goes out first, so Universe 9 is considered the weakest, Beerus and Champa next and the last one out will be Vermoud. The other 4 are then going to be excused. Pretty cool thing to do, I may say.

I'll wait for the translation for the full story and giving full thoughts, but I don't think there's much going on here that you can't pick up from what we already know. Fun chapter. Loved seeing every God of Destruction's place, all are pretty awesome!

However, on a purely technical level, this fight must be the worst in the manga yet. There's not only literally nothing interesting going on in it, but it fails at basic composition. Simply put, there's nothing good to look at there and there are some obvious continuity errors (they're usually fine, but here they were kinda noticable and took me out of the action), which is sad, since everything pre-fight is very well made and well above Toyotaro's usual average.

This makes me a little concerned for the actual Tournament, but last arc Toyotaro stepped up his game a lot for the actual final battle, so I have faith in him to deliver on my expectations.

Love the pacing though. Glad nothing is being rushed. It's going to be interesting to see how things move forward during the recruitment. The Exhibition Matches were something I was thinking are surely going to be skipped, but they're in and with a twist, so I really want to see how that will go. Will be fun to see Goku vs Toppo in this version too! A less straining Mastered SSB should be pretty fun to watch in action!
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Post by Namz » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:56 am

Draconic wrote:This fight is probably the way they'll determine what Universes are going to participate in the Tournament of Power. Sidra goes out first, so Universe 9 is considered the weakest, Beerus and Champa next and the last one out will be Vermoud. The other 4 are then going to be excused. Pretty cool thing to do, I may say.
No the one who goes out first is the robot who could as well be dead though

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Post by Hawk9211 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:01 pm

Can someone give the link to full chapter or even pm it?
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Post by Draconic » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:04 pm

Namz wrote:
Draconic wrote:This fight is probably the way they'll determine what Universes are going to participate in the Tournament of Power. Sidra goes out first, so Universe 9 is considered the weakest, Beerus and Champa next and the last one out will be Vermoud. The other 4 are then going to be excused. Pretty cool thing to do, I may say.
No the one who goes out first is the robot who could as well be dead though
He's still in the ring. Sidra is knocked out of it, though.
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Post by dbgtFO » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:06 pm

Looking forward to the translation. Glad at least the Gods acknowledge there are 2 Zeno.
Wonder what Rumosh was berating Gowasu about.. :think:

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Post by OLKv3 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:20 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Looking forward to the translation. Glad at least the Gods acknowledge there are 2 Zeno.
Wonder what Rumosh was berating Gowasu about.. :think:
Has to be Zamasu

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