Things DB should have had...but didn't

Dark Vegeta-Sama · Post by **Dark Vegeta-Sama** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:03 pm

I'm going to have to go with Goku meeting Bardock in the afterlife. It'd be interesting to see their reactions to eachother.

Also, GT shouldn't have existed at all, but it it had to, they should've had a longer scene involving Vegeta and Nappa when Nappa is among the many who have excaped from hell. Vegeta should've gloated a bit more about how powerful he has become and then reveal to Nappa that he has become a Super Saiyan. He also should've transformed before he killed him. It'd be hilarious to see Nappa so scared.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:19 pm

Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:I'm going to have to go with Goku meeting Bardock in the afterlife. It'd be interesting to see their reactions to eachother.

Sadly, they likely didn't end up in the same place.

nitemare · Post by **nitemare** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:34 pm

I'm going to have to go with Goku meeting Bardock in the afterlife. It'd be interesting to see their reactions to eachother.

That's quite impossible - by any means Bardock was an evil guy who most assuredly killed hundreds of innocent people. As Piccolo explained to Vegeta, Bardock's body became nothing, his memory was lost and spirit cleansed for a new form of existence....

I wondered however why Goku never met his grandfather in the afterlife (which excludes Uranai Baba's tournament and he was Pyre Keeper)...correct me if I'm wrong ;]

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:34 pm

Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:I'm going to have to go with Goku meeting Bardock in the afterlife. It'd be interesting to see their reactions to eachother.

Bardock's soul was cleansed and reincarnated. There's no "Bardock" anymore for Goku to meet.

I wondered however why Goku never met his grandfather in the afterlife

Different parts of the afterlife. Grandpa Gohan went to heaven, Goku didn't.

Slickmasterfunk · Post by **Slickmasterfunk** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:42 pm

Rocketman wrote:Different parts of the afterlife. Grandpa Gohan went to heaven, Goku didn't.

Well according to the filler he was the assistant at that furnace thing and Goku did meet him there.

nitemare · Post by **nitemare** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:22 pm

Different parts of the afterlife. Grandpa Gohan went to heaven, Goku didn't.

Well, considering that Goku was blessed with body going to heaven shouldn't be a problem...a meeting could be arranged using contacts with Uranai Baba (she was quite independent about letting Goku come back to Earth for one day and not asking Dai Kaio for permission)

Dark Vegeta-Sama · Post by **Dark Vegeta-Sama** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:33 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Sadly, they likely didn't end up in the same place.

nitemare wrote:That's quite impossible - by any means Bardock was an evil guy who most assuredly killed hundreds of innocent people. As Piccolo explained to Vegeta, Bardock's body became nothing, his memory was lost and spirit cleansed for a new form of existence....

Rocketman wrote:Bardock's soul was cleansed and reincarnated. There's no "Bardock" anymore for Goku to meet.

Okay, so three of you have told me the same thing here.

Yes, I already know that Bardock and Goku couldn't meet for this reason, but I don't care because it would be an interesting meeting anyway.

Plus, this is Dragonball, where things that shouldn't happen....well, happen. By rights, Vegeta shouldn't have been allowed to keep his body when he died, even if Buu was killing most people on the earth and Vegeta was the planet's only fighting chance left. The rules of the afterlife aren't always strictly followed in the series.

Plus, there's all that filler showing Cell, Freeza, King Cold, Babidi, and the Ginyu Force in hell, with their bodies still intact. If you go by that, there could've been a filler moment involving Goku meeting Bardock.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:38 pm

Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:Plus, there's all that filler showing Cell, Freeza, King Cold, Babidi, and the Ginyu Force in hell, with their bodies still intact. If you go by that, there could've been a filler moment involving Goku meeting Bardock.

They all died in the last decade. Bardock died thirty years prior.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:45 pm

Then again, that raises the question of whether or not villains could be wished back to life or not. Piccolo, for example, was purposely allowed to keep his body after being killed by Nappa, but what if he hadn't been?

nitemare · Post by **nitemare** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:52 pm

Piccolo, for example, was purposely allowed to keep his body after being killed by Nappa, but what if he hadn't been?

...then Gohan, Kuririn and Vegeta would be killed by Furiza, probably also Goku after being discovered in healing chamber - which means end of series

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...and Goten wouldn't be born

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:58 pm

I meant, would he have been able to be wished back to life?

nitemare · Post by **nitemare** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:03 pm

I think as long as person didn't die a natural death, she can be brought back back to life, look at all those mere people who got in the middle of fights - most of them was able to be wished back, even though they were evil ones among them...

Post by **TripleRach** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:48 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Then again, that raises the question of whether or not villains could be wished back to life or not. Piccolo, for example, was purposely allowed to keep his body after being killed by Nappa, but what if he hadn't been?

I think the manga shows lots of souls (the little white poofy clouds) of people that had been killed by Buu on Earth, and they were all able to be resurrected, so the bodies apparently aren't necessary.

'Course, if you were referring to the villains already having their souls cleansed and being reincarnated, that could be a problem. But maybe there's a waiting list for that, since Enma also mentions sending people to Hell even in the manga.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:19 pm

With Piccolo, I think it was due to his connection to Kami. Even though he off-screen got his body back over there after being put in a cryo-capsule.

achassi · Post by **achassi** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:00 pm

I would've liked Goku not dying all the time and being a good husband

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:00 am

[quote="Thanos6"]
2) There really should have been an all-out, taking up an entire tankobon fight of Piccolo vs. Vegeta. Maybe Piccolo gets mad about Vegeta letting Cell become perfect and goes after him (after training for a day in RoSaT to make them evenly matched). Something like that. Whatever the reason, it would have been marvellous. As it is, I don't believe they ever fought directly, unless you count Piccolo dragging Vegeta by his hair in the first Broli movie.
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That..would have been awesome. I never realized; a Vegeta vs Piccolo ...*drools.

GI_Judd2287 · Post by **GI_Judd2287** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:45 pm

I'd like to see what makes some of the characters tick. What does Goku think of himself and other characters? What's he afraid of? Why does Cell want to kill everyone? The biggest problem I have with Dragon Ball is you never get inside of the character's heads enough. Yeah, I know what the material is, and I know who the target auidence is, but American comics do this stuff with superheroes all the time.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:55 pm

GI_Judd2287 wrote:What does Goku think of himself and other characters?

[dial tone]

What's he afraid of?

ChiChi.

Why does Cell want to kill everyone?

Because he can.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:18 pm

Can we include GT in this? Cuz I really would have liked it if Gotenks had shown up, or if Gohan didn't suck ass.

Kanzenshuu

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