Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Wow i'm liking what i'm seeing so far with god brutally beating them self up and finally an enemy that is actually pretty strong from what i'm seeing which is a breath of fresh air compared to lets say hit and black,good job toppo
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emperior wrote:His reveal about Jiren being even stronger than him is much more dramatic, and overall executed better than what the anime did.
The revelation was 10 times better in the anime, in the middle of a genkidama with the same god saying, here only said and already
I guess that would be interesting in ONLY Goku and Jiren were fighting...
But there are 78 other contestants and 8 universes. The fact that there could potentially be characters strong enough to really make the rest of the cast struggle makes the hype for he tournaments over all more interesting. Basically the precedent is already being set that more than just Jiren and Goku will be strong characters worth watching.
Pannaliciour wrote:Its weird to see Beerus getting beat like that. Its kind of sad knowing how strong he appears.
What? Who beated Beerus?
Nobody. Beerus and Quitela were the only standing and were about to trade blows until the Grand Priest stopped them
I mean he looked very tired and weak at the end. Its surprises me because I always thought a GOD cant be like that. But if your opponents are strong. Anything can happen.
Pannaliciour wrote:I mean he looked very tired and weak at the end. Its surprises me because I always thought a GOD cant be like that. But if your opponents are strong. Anything can happen.
Well, he was fighting other GoDs so it's plausible to think he would end worn out, so I guess that "Beerus is the strongest Hakaishin" is BS huh?
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
GhoulEto wrote:
I feel that Toyotaro is very rushed, puts to fight to the gods and the fight lasts 5 min, I do not know if it wants to reach the anime, well, it should take all the time of the world that in 29 chapters Already going to enter the 3rd saga ..
I can understand it feels rushed when you take the amount of chapters and the arcs into account,but this is not your typical manga chapters we're talking about.
Toriyama's manga was a weekly one,thus feeling 'larger' when you count the number of chapters.But being weekly means having from 15 to 20 pages per chapter.
Now Toyo is gradually increasing his page count.He started the BoG retelling by giving us 14 pages or so,but when he moved on to the new stuff,he started making chapters worth of 2(and even 3 in recent months)weekly ones.Right now we are getting 45 pages per chapter,that means 3 chapters of Toriyama's original run.
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My Dragon Ball Super 'Canon'
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Battle of Gods/Resurrection 'F' films
Dragon Ball Super: Broly
Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 05-
Nobody. Beerus and Quitela were the only standing and were about to trade blows until the Grand Priest stopped them
I mean he looked very tired and weak at the end. Its surprises me because I always thought a GOD cant be like that. But if your opponents are strong. Anything can happen.
Well it was a battle royale with 12 GoDs, he was gonna take some shots but he was in the last 2 standing which speaks well to his overall fighting ability. Everyone but him and quitela were on the floor
TheMikado wrote:The best part about this setup is it basically takes they strongest guy they have and takes him down which paves the way for other very strong fighters from other universes rather than a bunch of fodder getting eliminated. I would think it would be extremely interested in they actually ended up with some of the fewest eliminations rather than the most.
This also makes people like Krillin start to sh*t their pants and just hope they don't get accidentally killed.
It also makes Goku's desperation to recruit Frieza much easier to swallow and why he would be the best choice.
They would need someone at Golden Frieza's level in a very short amount of time.
Plus we know that teamwork is really going to actually be critical instead of everyone just flying off at the start of the match.
TheMikado wrote:The best part about this setup is it basically takes they strongest guy they have and takes him down which paves the way for other very strong fighters from other universes rather than a bunch of fodder getting eliminated. I would think it would be extremely interested in they actually ended up with some of the fewest eliminations rather than the most.
This also makes people like Krillin start to sh*t their pants and just hope they don't get accidentally killed.
It also makes Goku's desperation to recruit Frieza much easier to swallow and why he would be the best choice.
They would need someone at Golden Frieza's level in a very short amount of time. Plus we know that teamwork is really going to actually be critical instead of everyone just flying off at the start of the match.
How do you know all of that?Is there any leaks i missed?
I think Toyo is messing with us. Last man standing is Beerus and U4 God. Soo last man standing in this arc wil be U7 mortal vs U4 mortal (I think Goku vs Bug thing)
supersaiyan1993 wrote:looks like liquor has nine tails. also it seems all the hakaishins are around the same level.
What since when? He has 3 from the looks of it, unless my theory he can grow more is true.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
supersaiyan1993 wrote:looks like liquor has nine tails. also it seems all the hakaishins are around the same level.
What since when? He has 3 from the looks of it, unless my theory he can grow more is true.
His really secret power is constantly changing the amount of tails he has.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
I hope the 4 pages interview with Toyotaro and Toriyama about Future Trunks arc has some interesting information. I would like to know why Toriyama decided to give such a bittersweet ending to FT Trunks.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
But even those ideas have to be checked and confirmed by Toriyama.
Like Goku and Vegeta absorbing the power of the god even in base form, so Vegeta can defeat Gotenks SS3 without any effort. I'm glad Toyotaro got rid of that in his manga.
Nobody. Beerus and Quitela were the only standing and were about to trade blows until the Grand Priest stopped them
I mean he looked very tired and weak at the end. Its surprises me because I always thought a GOD cant be like that. But if your opponents are strong. Anything can happen.
You do realize he's fighting 11 other gods of destruction, correct? I don't see how this is a shocking development. He's actually fighting characters on his level, and it just shows how insignificant Goku and the other strong mortal characters are in general when compared compared to Beerus and his fellow godly destroyers