Asura wrote: Kataphrut wrote:
What i dislike about Kale is that she was introduced as an amateur with very little battle experience and all of sudden with some tantrum fit she exchnages blows with SSB
Its very bad written, if they wanted her to be of certain level, they should have introduced her as a seasoned LSS not some crybaby with inexplicable powers to servce as fan service for Broly who wasnt that powerful to begin with outside fanmade content.
and ribrienne is annoying as hell, if she was a dude it would have been just as bad
Sorry, that "if she was a dude" escape clause doesn't fly here, because Ribrianne wouldn't work as a male character. Her whole character is tied to her gender: she's a "magical girl". She fights with femininity, that's her thing. The difference is, she turns fat when she transforms, which is atypical of magical girl characters. You could unpack whether it's right to make a joke about the idea of her being chubby, but plenty of people have missed the joke entirely and just hate that she's fat.
Actually scratch that, you know who male Ribrianne is? Toppo. Toppo is totally a male version of her because he's from her parallel universe. Like her, he leads a team of genre heroes, is dorkily obsessed with a single concept and is extraordinarily powerful despite looking like he needs to lay off the cheeseburgers. And he doesn't get nearly the amount of flack she does. The worst he gets is people who occasional say the constant "justice" talk is annoying. But nowhere near as much as people who complain about Ribrianne's "love" talk and almost no one calls him ugly.
Toppo is not the same as Ribrianne. Toppo isn't annoying, fighting for justice actually makes sense whereas fighting with the power of love doesn't and is just a gag. Ribrianne has an annoying and obnoxious personality, whereas Toppo is more restrained. Toppo also wasn't in almost every single episode of the damn tournament since he was introduced, unlike Ribrianne. Toppo is also relevant strength-wise because he's at least as strong as SSB, where Ribrianne was getting bodied by a base Vegeta. She's like an annoying fly that keeps popping up with her annoying and nonsensical gimmick. If she was actually at SSB level she wouldn't be as bad, but since she's obnoxious, weak, always in your face, ugly fat design, and constantly repeating the same gag over and over and over again (because there's literally nothing else to her character, unlike Toppo who has more going for him then just shouting "JUSTICE!" over and over again with the whole becoming a GoD thing, his relationship with Jiren, and his grudge with Goku) then she's just going to be a character that most people dislike.
Still seems odd that some spend allot of time Kataphrut
my friend complaining about 1 character while they are still in development of their origin story are they not?!
It seems Rather then give her time to develop which toei is doing some seem quick in throwing her out fast just cause she has not met some pre-determine standard that seems some fans have labeled to her so very early on. By all time accounts at most she has had the equivalent of 2 1/2 episodes or less to develop while Toppo has had 3 to 4 times that much so far, hardly the over use of time many say she has had.
But also Fans like me see the pattern that Toei is doing and it is classic Magical Girl/Sailor Moon Journey to power and self style. It is not brass and forward as some traditional dragon ball characters are, but that is what makes it so unique and we see each moment on the steps of her development. This desire to label her as nothing is overly simple and ignores basic storytelling that takes time to develop, her screentime what little it has been has been a stepping latter in every right direction to this development. Many don't understand this style but that is ok, but just cause you don't get it does not mean it is not worth it happening.
Like I keep saying, the over focus on her to be thrown down seem petty in many cases, when a character is on I don't really care for I just don't care as much what happens and wait until the next moment comes. She is just 1 new character of a major cast, it is easy to gloss past her and let her be for those of us that like her, continuing the point some don't want to see any of her is unrealistic and have to accept in life you will not get 100% of what you want to see, you have to learn to watch parts that are not your cup of tea, for now.
Also the term she is weak is Beyond Incorrect and if one Like Me that Focuses on her and Breaks down her Resume So Far and honestly gives on Honest Account of Each fight and why each one happen they way they had you find a more Bigger Picture of a Stronger Fighter that had a moment of lost confidence back in Episode 111.
One should go to both links down below to see my Breakdowns in the order they are, their you will see how determing Ribrianne as weak is a gross understament by many accounts and is sad that many seem to gloss over what she has shown already;
Each fan has their Favorites and each one of us takes our Pride in Taking down chronological notes and points on who they are and what they can do. I am A Ribrianne fan and proud of that and I take down more closer notes then many here, so when I give my Reasoning for these observations above, due note that they are the work of much calculations, observation and watching of the episodes and moments very closely. I don't put down anything lightly, but I do put down what I find as the hard facts.
In the end Ribrianne, Caulifla, Kale or any other character you are not found of you are just going to have to accept they are going to be here for a good time to come, one will not get all they want. Maybe it is best to like I have said to many over the years and it works well, is to relax, open your mind to new concepts and characters and let the story flow the way it is intended too. You find much more enjoyment out of your media.
I honestly really don't care much anymore about Negatives on the Girls, but will debate when I feel it is needed. We are in a forum speaking to a select few fans as part of a wider world of Fans and opinions, many more positive then we see around. The Girls will be her for sometime to come.