...Oh and my dream version of universe 7 would actually utilize teamwork instead of just talking about using teamwork all the time.

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MaskedRider wrote:The duality of man.Torturephile wrote:hunduel wrote:I liked this episode. I seriously don't know why people hate it.The fandom in a nutshell.namekiansaiyan wrote:I seriously don't see why some of you like this episode when nothing happened and was basically filler.
You say no useless members like Gohan and Tien, but you have Krillin and Roshi in there...Kanious wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Freeza
#17
#18
Piccolo
Trunks (he has SSR, and can use the mafuuba too)
Master Roshi
Buu (his body would be useful)
Krilin
No useless characters like Gohan and Tien on my dream team
He swapped with Goku once. We know how that went. Ginyu's technique has its limitations. Also, he never swapped with Frieza, despite working with him for so long. In fact, he seemed supremely loyal to him. It's clear Ginyu is a team player when it suits him, or at the very least, he can be written as such. I am basing my vision of Ginyu on DBZ, not that piece of **** F arc. That was not Ginyu. It was a random filler villain.MrBlackFox wrote:fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Uub, Majin Buu, Teen Goten, Teen Trunks, and Captain Ginyu.
First of all, this type of arc would have been the perfect way to develop Uub without taking the spotlight away from the other characters. Of course, even if the arc was set during this period, we'd still need competent writing to make the best of it.
Secondly, they really f'ing dropped the ball with Captain Ginyu. He was such a unique character and I believe even Goku mentioned he was never really that bad. He'd make a great supporting character and add comedic relief too. Plus, that change technique can be helpful.
Pikkon and Future Trunks get honorable mentions.
Always loved Ginyu, but I think even if Goku says never was so bad, it's still a crazy dangerous move to bring him with Z warriors, only a second lasting distraction and he'd swap bodies with Goku, Vegeta or even Hit or Jiren, becoming a devastating menace
Out of all the evil characters in DB, Ginyu has to be the easiest to be written as a good or neutral character. Yeah, he may become a double agent, given his tendency to want to be part of the winning side, but he's also showed loyalty. This makes him more interesting. This character had soooo much potential.Lord Frieza wrote:I highly doubt that, he's the leader of Frieza's top band of goons. They likely have a collective kill count that rivals their master. Ginyu himself as likely slaughtered many people but thats not all, if his actions agenst Goku are any indicastion he's not only stolen the bodies fo quite a few people he's also happly let them bleed to death if he didn't kill them right away. The fact he plays along with his men and master's sick games is not a sign of a "ok but bad guy". Ginyu's so called "honer" is pretty easily dropped the second he's not in a possition of power, he didn't even attept to fight Goku after he powered up, rather acted like the coward he really is and stole Goku's body. Really Goku's statment of Ginyu being "not like the other" is just him being naive and only seeing the mask, not what was under it.fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Uub, Majin Buu, Teen Goten, Teen Trunks, and Captain Ginyu.
First of all, this type of arc would have been the perfect way to develop Uub without taking the spotlight away from the other characters. Of course, even if the arc was set during this period, we'd still need competent writing to make the best of it.
Secondly, they really f'ing dropped the ball with Captain Ginyu. He was such a unique character and I believe even Goku mentioned he was never really that bad. He'd make a great supporting character and add comedic relief too. Plus, that change technique can be helpful.
Pikkon and Future Trunks get honorable mentions.
I think Guts from the Berserk manga put it best when he faces a foe who appeared to have a warrior code and thics....
"Monsters should no pretend to be warriors....you self absorbed bastard!"
Thats a pretty bold statament given that Ginyu has no even 10% of Veget's total screen time in the series.fadeddreams5 wrote:Out of all the evil characters in DB, Ginyu has to be the easiest to be written as a good or neutral character. Yeah, he may become a double agent, given his tendency to want to be part of the winning side, but he's also showed loyalty. This makes him more interesting. This character had soooo much potential.Lord Frieza wrote:I highly doubt that, he's the leader of Frieza's top band of goons. They likely have a collective kill count that rivals their master. Ginyu himself as likely slaughtered many people but thats not all, if his actions agenst Goku are any indicastion he's not only stolen the bodies fo quite a few people he's also happly let them bleed to death if he didn't kill them right away. The fact he plays along with his men and master's sick games is not a sign of a "ok but bad guy". Ginyu's so called "honer" is pretty easily dropped the second he's not in a possition of power, he didn't even attept to fight Goku after he powered up, rather acted like the coward he really is and stole Goku's body. Really Goku's statment of Ginyu being "not like the other" is just him being naive and only seeing the mask, not what was under it.fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Uub, Majin Buu, Teen Goten, Teen Trunks, and Captain Ginyu.
First of all, this type of arc would have been the perfect way to develop Uub without taking the spotlight away from the other characters. Of course, even if the arc was set during this period, we'd still need competent writing to make the best of it.
Secondly, they really f'ing dropped the ball with Captain Ginyu. He was such a unique character and I believe even Goku mentioned he was never really that bad. He'd make a great supporting character and add comedic relief too. Plus, that change technique can be helpful.
Pikkon and Future Trunks get honorable mentions.
I think Guts from the Berserk manga put it best when he faces a foe who appeared to have a warrior code and thics....
"Monsters should no pretend to be warriors....you self absorbed bastard!"
Side note, Vegeta was wayyy more evil than Ginyu.
Roshi can use the Mafuuba, the lullaby hypnosis and is wise. Krilin... Krilin has some great techniques too. I see Gohan as a nuisance and he is a character that trained for something like less than 72 since the Buu saga [or in the last 7 years], and he is the reason why Piccolo lost 3 f*cking arms.TheOne wrote:You say no useless members like Gohan and Tien, but you have Krillin and Roshi in there...Kanious wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Freeza
#17
#18
Piccolo
Trunks (he has SSR, and can use the mafuuba too)
Master Roshi
Buu (his body would be useful)
Krilin
No useless characters like Gohan and Tien on my dream team![]()
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Frieza
17
18
Future Trunks
Buu-han
Cell
Piccolo
What are you talking about? They have been utilising teamwork, and most of the time, it's been very successful.TekTheNinja wrote:...Oh and my dream version of universe 7 would actually utilize teamwork instead of just talking about using teamwork all the time.
But you can't overlook the fact that Cell and Buu-Han would still be in the tournament right now. Regardless of the little clever tricks those two bring to the table, raw power will be more effective. Roshi and Krillin were only effective for small timers.Kanious wrote:Roshi can use the Mafuuba, the lullaby hypnosis and is wise. Krilin... Krilin has some great techniques too. I see Gohan as a nuisance and he is a character that trained for something like less than 72 since the Buu saga [or in the last 7 years], and he is the reason why Piccolo lost 3 f*cking arms.TheOne wrote:You say no useless members like Gohan and Tien, but you have Krillin and Roshi in there...Kanious wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Freeza
#17
#18
Piccolo
Trunks (he has SSR, and can use the mafuuba too)
Master Roshi
Buu (his body would be useful)
Krilin
No useless characters like Gohan and Tien on my dream team![]()
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Frieza
17
18
Future Trunks
Buu-han
Cell
Piccolo