Scenes that the Anime did better than the Manga

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:28 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:I know everyone hails the Manga as the bible on this, but I'd rather watch the action and personally not give a damn if they got some "filler" scenes incorrect.

It's not so much that as the anime having two hours go by while, say, Goku and Freeza stare lovingly into each other's eyes, occasionally cutting away to show the peanut gallery clenching their glutes and staring at Goku and Freeze staring at each other. Or, hey, you could cut away to King Kai recapping for the dead peanut gallery things that supposedly happened less than ten minutes ago. REPEATEDLY.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:49 pm

Uh yeah, but then there's turning a few pages and the end. I prefer to watch it with the music and all the stuff going on in real time.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:37 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Uh yeah, but then there's turning a few pages and the end. I prefer to watch it with the music and all the stuff going on in real time.

1. CDs!
2. It's not real time. Five minutes real time = 10 episodes.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:33 am

lol Oh I see so everyone complains that there is too much talking in the Anime. Well there's not enough action in the Manga. It's a funny process. Most people started watching the US Anime, liked it, and decided to watch the original, so they switched to the Japanese Anime, started getting "smart" and trashed the US Anime. Then people went back to the Manga and now they trash the Anime itself. I don't know, I choose not to disrespect the greatest Anime I've ever seen.

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:36 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:lol Oh I see so everyone complains that there is too much talking in the Anime. Well there's not enough action in the Manga. It's a funny process. Most people started watching the US Anime, liked it, and decided to watch the original, so they switched to the Japanese Anime, started getting "smart" and trashed the US Anime. Then people went back to the Manga and now they trash the Anime itself. I don't know, I choose not to disrespect the greatest Anime I've ever seen.

That's kinda true. Many people do seem to move from US Dub, to original Japanese anime, to the manga.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:37 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:I don't know, I choose not to disrespect the greatest Anime I've ever seen.

Yeah, Cowboy Bebop is a great anime.

-Corey

Contra Deus · Post by **Contra Deus** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:21 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:I don't know, I choose not to disrespect the greatest Anime I've ever seen.
Yeah, Cowboy Bebop is a great anime.

-Corey

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:10 pm

Rocketman wrote:It's not so much that as the anime having two hours go by while, say, Goku and Freeza stare lovingly into each other's eyes, occasionally cutting away to show the peanut gallery clenching their glutes and staring at Goku and Freeze staring at each other. Or, hey, you could cut away to King Kai recapping for the dead peanut gallery things that supposedly happened less than ten minutes ago. REPEATEDLY.

That's what we call Suspense and intensity.

Fluid movement, action, great music too go along with it > Manga.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:15 pm

Phenomenol wrote:That's what we call Suspense and intensity.

No, that's what you call "dragging something out until people start yelling "GET ON WITH IT!"".

Fluid movement, action, great music too go along with it > Manga.

Great art, great pacing, less retardedness > anime.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:27 pm

Rocketman wrote:No, that's what you call "dragging something out until people start yelling "GET ON WITH IT!"".

No, it is called entertainment and style points!

Great art, great pacing, MORE fighting > Manga.

*Fixed for accuracy*

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:15 pm

The staring contests, at least the less extreme ones, actually manage to build a decent amount of suspense (the music helps a lot here), and don't feel that horribly bad. It's the pointless filler scenes cutting to character not part of the action either doing something incredibly insignificant or giving us some generic "this is bad" comments on the stuff we just saw that are painful.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:58 pm

I have a feeling that most of the people that are bothered by the "too much staring and talking" have just watched it too many times. It never really bothered me the first time I saw DBZ (it still doesn't, except for the Freeza fight really..) but other than that it wasn't so bad. I think it's just the more you see the series the more you start to think "just get to it already."

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:22 pm

Isn't this thread supposed to be about scenes the anime improved rather than "rar, manga is bettar!1"?

Bomber Greek · Post by **Bomber Greek** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:32 pm

Yes, but like most threads, the topic goes upside-down on its ass.

Akira · Post by **Akira** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:54 pm

As mentioned, there are a few fights that the Anime does better, like Piccolo vs. Freeza form 2. It fleshes out stuff that makes things more interesting, like the bar fight scene during the rainstorm that postpones the 21st Budokai. Or the scenes that flesh out training segments more thoroughly were always an aspect of the Anime that I enjoyed.

Goku's training is always shown in greater detail in the anime, and many times it is very interesting. Strengthening his tail before the 22nd Budokai? Also remember Son walking miles on his hands, and pulling those boulders up mountain paths to increase his strength? All good stuff. The additional scenes and training methods of both Korin and Kami? Who could forget Gregory, and all that mallet smashing goodness. I'll never forget the look on North Kaio's face when Son smashed his convertible by accident! All were excellent uses of the Anime to flesh out the story more.

We've harped on the bad, and there are some shining examples from the Anime that I really enjoyed a lot and felt truly added to the story in many ways. That ought to help this topic get back on track.

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:20 am

My Fiance and I have been watching DBZ. For her it's the first time. She loved the Saiyan saga but now we're at the Freeza fight and I think she's losing interest. Can't say I blame her. It's frustratingly slow going...

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:40 am

SonEric84 wrote:I have a feeling that most of the people that are bothered by the "too much staring and talking" have just watched it too many times.

I'd actually argue the opposite. I think people just coming to the medium for the first time would be pretty taken aback by the sheer amount of blah blah blah blah and pan-across moments in DBZ. If you've been into it for a while, you've either accepted it and don't really pay it much mind, or you've moved on and don't pay it much mind.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:50 am

VegettoEX wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:I have a feeling that most of the people that are bothered by the "too much staring and talking" have just watched it too many times.
I'd actually argue the opposite. I think people just coming to the medium for the first time would be pretty taken aback by the sheer amount of blah blah blah blah and pan-across moments in DBZ. If you've been into it for a while, you've either accepted it and don't really pay it much mind, or you've moved on and don't pay it much mind.

Hmm, I guess that's true. Maybe it just doesn't phase me that much. I was into the anime first and then the manga, and while I can't really say I missed the dragging out of some of the fights, I did miss the few things that the anime built a little bit further on. (Minus the plot-hole filler such as Piccolo destroying Goku's spacepod and whatnot.) Don't get me wrong, I love the manga, it's probably just because I saw the anime first that it took me a little getting used to.

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:38 pm

There are a couple things that both do better then the other. Here are some of the fights I believe are better in the Anime.

Piccolo Vs Freeza: The fight was just back and forth, and when Piccolo took off his cape, he beat the crap out of Freeza.

SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta: The fight was much longer, and they both actually landed hits on each other. There was even good dialogue in the battle.

SSJ Trunks Vs Mecha Freeza: Not much of a fight here. It just looked better, because Freeza was struggling the entire time

SSJ Trunks Vs #17&#18 (Future): This was another battle that looked much better in the Anime.

Goku's transformation into a SSJ was also better in the Anime. There was much more into the power-up.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:20 pm

The Anime fights seem to COMPLETE the fights that are hell of short in the Manga. Example...Vegetto vs Super Buu...Goku vs Majin vegeta....etc. I just like the Anime overall, it has what the Manga got AND MORE.

Anime > Manga.