Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:10 pm

Michsi wrote:
5+ is what I'd call good TV ratings. It wasn't bad, that's why I said "meh". 118 was accompanied by a lot of discussion and comments, and apparently received a great ranking (not TV rating) among Japanese fans. I follow a lot of DB fans on twitter too and "meh" is exactly what I'd describe the reception for 120 there as well, if they even bothered to post anything about it.
As I said, I'm curious to see if this was a fluke or not. In the end it all depends on the quality of the upcoming episodes, but I mentioned already, even mediocre to bad episode generated a lot of buzz before. Whether it was because Freeza, Ribrianne ,Kefla or whatever else doesn't matter, those episode had something working for them the last one didn't.
The quality the episodes have very little to do with ratings. As I said, people are discussion less because there is less to talk about and characters that got a lot of heated debates like the U6 Saiyans and Rib aren’t around anymore.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Michsi » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:35 pm

HeroR wrote:
Michsi wrote:
5+ is what I'd call good TV ratings. It wasn't bad, that's why I said "meh". 118 was accompanied by a lot of discussion and comments, and apparently received a great ranking (not TV rating) among Japanese fans. I follow a lot of DB fans on twitter too and "meh" is exactly what I'd describe the reception for 120 there as well, if they even bothered to post anything about it.
As I said, I'm curious to see if this was a fluke or not. In the end it all depends on the quality of the upcoming episodes, but I mentioned already, even mediocre to bad episode generated a lot of buzz before. Whether it was because Freeza, Ribrianne ,Kefla or whatever else doesn't matter, those episode had something working for them the last one didn't.
The quality the episodes have very little to do with ratings. As I said, people are discussion less because there is less to talk about and characters that got a lot of heated debates like the U6 Saiyans and Rib aren’t around anymore.
Not ratings, but opinions/reception. And quality matters now, because as you said, there is less to talk about and less characters to carry the show/look forward to. The few that remain need put up a good show to make up for the more lackluster setting.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:40 pm

Michsi wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Michsi wrote:
5+ is what I'd call good TV ratings. It wasn't bad, that's why I said "meh". 118 was accompanied by a lot of discussion and comments, and apparently received a great ranking (not TV rating) among Japanese fans. I follow a lot of DB fans on twitter too and "meh" is exactly what I'd describe the reception for 120 there as well, if they even bothered to post anything about it.
As I said, I'm curious to see if this was a fluke or not. In the end it all depends on the quality of the upcoming episodes, but I mentioned already, even mediocre to bad episode generated a lot of buzz before. Whether it was because Freeza, Ribrianne ,Kefla or whatever else doesn't matter, those episode had something working for them the last one didn't.
The quality the episodes have very little to do with ratings. As I said, people are discussion less because there is less to talk about and characters that got a lot of heated debates like the U6 Saiyans and Rib aren’t around anymore.
Not ratings, but opinions/reception. And quality matters now, because as you said, there is less to talk about and less characters to carry the show/look forward to. The few that remain need put up a good show to make up for the more lackluster setting.
Opinions are opinions. Like there are those who despised Goku vs the U6 Saiyans and bitch about it every week, driving up the page count on the discussion here. 117 was just okay too, yet most of the discussion were fans singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead over Rib.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Michsi » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:57 pm

HeroR wrote:
Michsi wrote:
HeroR wrote:
The quality the episodes have very little to do with ratings. As I said, people are discussion less because there is less to talk about and characters that got a lot of heated debates like the U6 Saiyans and Rib aren’t around anymore.
Not ratings, but opinions/reception. And quality matters now, because as you said, there is less to talk about and less characters to carry the show/look forward to. The few that remain need put up a good show to make up for the more lackluster setting.
Opinions are opinions. Like there are those who despised Goku vs the U6 Saiyans and bitch about it every week, driving up the page count on the discussion here. 117 was just okay too, yet most of the discussion were fans singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead over Rib.
Let's not act like opinion won't sooner or late spill over into the ratings. There's a general consensus that the Future Trunks arc was better than this one and the ratings reflect that. And there's the saying about how bad publicity is still publicity, so even if the discourse was heated, what matters was that it happened. And by the way, there were about as many that defended the U6 girls, so it was more or less a clash of preferences, which most shows have, and not a one-side bashing of characters.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by majinwarman » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:31 pm

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majinwarman wrote: I wonder why did they announce what the next arc would be in Jump Festa like they did last year. Maybe they want to hold on and wait for this arc to end before they want to tell us what the next arc begins.
The next arc would no doubt have ramifications based off this, so it'll spoil what happens. Plus announcing a new arc while the current one is on going for another 3 months isn't smart.
I just have a feeling that there won't be ramifications for this arc. I just think that there is right now a huge reset button ready to be used. I just hope that just doesn't happen though.
Michsi wrote: I think it's already showing. Look at the episode thread, it barely reached 7 pages of discussion. A first since the TOP started I think. I know it was an average episode, but even average episodes used to get more attention/discussion than this.
You're reading too much into it, the zen exhibition matches at the start had a low page count too. Infact I remember making a point about it in one of those threads.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:33 pm

Michsi wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Not ratings, but opinions/reception. And quality matters now, because as you said, there is less to talk about and less characters to carry the show/look forward to. The few that remain need put up a good show to make up for the more lackluster setting.
Opinions are opinions. Like there are those who despised Goku vs the U6 Saiyans and bitch about it every week, driving up the page count on the discussion here. 117 was just okay too, yet most of the discussion were fans singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead over Rib.
Let's not act like opinion won't sooner or late spill over into the ratings. There's a general consensus that the Future Trunks arc was better than this one and the ratings reflect that. And there's the saying about how bad publicity is still publicity, so even if the discourse was heated, what matters was that it happened. And by the way, there were about as many that defended the U6 girls, so it was more or less a clash of preferences, which most shows have, and not a one-side bashing of characters.
What general consensus? I have seen plenty say this arc is the best in Super despite its flaws. Also, ratings are down across the board for the top 10, so it’s hard to compare ratings here.

I know, I was one of them. My point was that they drove most of the discussion even when the episode was just okay. Even when they weren’t in the epsoide.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Michsi » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:42 pm

HeroR wrote:
What general consensus? I have seen plenty say this arc is the best in Super despite its flaws. Also, ratings are down across the board, so it’s hard to compare ratings here.

I know, I was one of them. My point was that they drove most of the discussion even when the episode was just okay. Even when they weren’t even one epsoide.
I haven't. Fans seem to like it better than the retellings and the Champa arc, but not the FT arc. I like this arc better than the last one because it uses more of the main cast, but from my perusal of several sites (excluding reddit) FT still seems to be the favorite. Again, this is my personal assessment from what I've gathered, but I'd love to see a an actual poll one day.

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Post by HeroR » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:47 pm

Michsi wrote:
HeroR wrote:
What general consensus? I have seen plenty say this arc is the best in Super despite its flaws. Also, ratings are down across the board, so it’s hard to compare ratings here.

I know, I was one of them. My point was that they drove most of the discussion even when the episode was just okay. Even when they weren’t even one epsoide.
I haven't. Fans seem to like it better than the retellings and the Champa arc, but not the FT arc. I like this arc better than the last one because it uses more of the main cast, but from my perusal of several sites (excluding reddit) FT still seems to be the favorite. Again, this is my personal assessment from what I've gathered, but I'd love to see a an actual poll one day.
Not sure what to tell you. On Reddit and Reset Era/Gaf, many called this arc the best in Super for the same reasons as you.

I personally like the Future Trunks Saga more.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Michsi » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:20 pm

HeroR wrote:
Michsi wrote:
HeroR wrote:
What general consensus? I have seen plenty say this arc is the best in Super despite its flaws. Also, ratings are down across the board, so it’s hard to compare ratings here.

I know, I was one of them. My point was that they drove most of the discussion even when the episode was just okay. Even when they weren’t even one epsoide.
I haven't. Fans seem to like it better than the retellings and the Champa arc, but not the FT arc. I like this arc better than the last one because it uses more of the main cast, but from my perusal of several sites (excluding reddit) FT still seems to be the favorite. Again, this is my personal assessment from what I've gathered, but I'd love to see a an actual poll one day.
Not sure what to tell you. On Reddit and Reset Era/Gaf, many called this arc the best in Super for the same reasons as you.

I personally like the Future Trunks Saga.
One thing; this is arc is still new and fresh, so that might be an important factor. That's why I said 'one day', after people had time to mull it over and judge fairly. It'd be great if this arc ended on a high note and was considered the better of the two, but only time will tell.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:52 pm

Michsi wrote:
HeroR wrote:
What general consensus? I have seen plenty say this arc is the best in Super despite its flaws. Also, ratings are down across the board, so it’s hard to compare ratings here.

I know, I was one of them. My point was that they drove most of the discussion even when the episode was just okay. Even when they weren’t even one epsoide.
I haven't. Fans seem to like it better than the retellings and the Champa arc, but not the FT arc. I like this arc better than the last one because it uses more of the main cast, but from my perusal of several sites (excluding reddit) FT still seems to be the favorite. Again, this is my personal assessment from what I've gathered, but I'd love to see a an actual poll one day.
When the Universal Survival arc ends, I'll get right on that. :thumbup:

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Post by Noah » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:37 pm

Michsi wrote:...but I'd love to see a an actual poll one day.
Why so? The result is obvious:

1. Future Trunks arc
2. Universe Survival arc
3. Champa arc
4. Battle of Gods arc
5. Ressurection of 'F' arc.
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Post by Michsi » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:50 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: When the Universal Survival arc ends, I'll get right on that. :thumbup:
Looking forward to it :thumbup:
Noah wrote:
Michsi wrote:...but I'd love to see a an actual poll one day.
Why so? The result is obvious:

1. Future Trunks arc
2. Universe Survival arc
3. Champa arc
4. Battle of Gods arc
5. Ressurection of 'F' arc.
Well that's just it, it doesn't seem to be that obvious. That's what me and HeroR have been discussing.

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Post by Noah » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:19 pm

Michsi wrote:Well that's just it, it doesn't seem to be that obvious. That's what me and HeroR have been discussing.
I guess it all depends in how the current arc will end, if will be a predictable finale or not.
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Post by majinwarman » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:21 pm

Noah wrote:
Michsi wrote:Well that's just it, it doesn't seem to be that obvious. That's what me and HeroR have been discussing.
I guess it all depends in how the current arc will end, if will be a predictable finale or not.
I think we should wait for the arc to end before we make judgement over it.
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Pokemon defeats DBS again.
Pack it up boys, looks like DBS is getting canceled soon.
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I find it funny that the Ribrianne episode did better ratings wise than all the episodes that came after it so far.
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RedHeat wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Image

Pokemon defeats DBS again.
Pack it up boys, looks like DBS is getting canceled soon.
Wow, even though this episode was a great one. I really thought the episode was going to get at least a 5. But, let's not start the whole story that Super is getting cancelled. I don't think that is going to happen at all. You just wait and see in a few weeks. The ratings will start going up soon.
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Post by Totamo » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:10 pm

majinwarman wrote:
RedHeat wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Image

Pokemon defeats DBS again.
Pack it up boys, looks like DBS is getting canceled soon.
Wow, even though this episode was a great one. I really thought the episode was going to get at least a 5. But, let's not start the whole story that Super is getting cancelled. I don't think that is going to happen at all. You just wait and see in a few weeks. The ratings will start going up soon.
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Totamo wrote:
majinwarman wrote:
RedHeat wrote:
Pack it up boys, looks like DBS is getting canceled soon.
Wow, even though this episode was a great one. I really thought the episode was going to get at least a 5. But, let's not start the whole story that Super is getting cancelled. I don't think that is going to happen at all. You just wait and see in a few weeks. The ratings will start going up soon.
My friend, that person is joking.
Oh, my bad!! It's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet sometimes.
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