"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Marlowe89 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:00 pm

HeroR wrote:Except that isn't true since the anime has stuff that only happened in the manga.
If you're referring to those two random robbers, they actually do make a brief appearance in the "We Gotta Power" opening so those characters weren't entirely exclusive to the manga.

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Post by HeroR » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:03 pm

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HeroR wrote:Except that isn't true since the anime has stuff that only happened in the manga.
If you're referring to those two random robbers, they actually do make a brief appearance in the "We Gotta Power" opening so those characters weren't entirely exclusive to the manga.
That's really stretching it. My point is, the anime doesn't just go by the anime, not even Kai since Buu Kai kept the Hell scene with all the villains watching.
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Post by Marlowe89 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:10 pm

HeroR wrote:That's really stretching it. My point is, the anime doesn't just go by the anime, not even Kai since Buu Kai kept the Hell scene with all the villains watching.
Not really. Those are the exact same designs of the exact same nameless characters, so there's already a clear precedent for their existence in the anime even if that particular event with Videl didn't occur in that version (and unless I'm mistaken, the event also wasn't referenced in Super). I'm not disputing your overall point, but that's a pretty weak example.

Kai: The Final Chapters did retain the Hell scene at the end, so I'd agree with that one.

Edit: Apparently that scene was referenced in Super after all. Hmm.
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Post by HeroR » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:16 pm

Marlowe89 wrote:
HeroR wrote:That's really stretching it. My point is, the anime doesn't just go by the anime, not even Kai since Buu Kai kept the Hell scene with all the villains watching.
Not really. Those are the exact same designs of the exact same nameless characters, so there's already a clear precedent for their existence in the anime even if that particular event with Videl didn't occur in that version (and unless I'm mistaken, the event also wasn't referenced in Super). I'm not disputing your overall point, but that's a pretty weak example.

Kai: The Final Chapters did retain the Hell scene at the end, so I'd agree with that one.
Except the events of how Gohan met the robbers came from the manga as shown in the flashback and those events never happened in the anime not even as a throwaway. Especially since this even helped Videl identify Gohan as Saiyaman.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:27 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Anyone notice how Naruto sales are increasing despite the focus being on the young generation ? this proves that focusing on the young generation won't kill a franchise.
There's still contless original Naruto products being released that make up the vast majority of those sales. What kind of merchandise and games can you make of something that's mostly filler type stories ? If Boruto doesn't make huge changes moving forward, it's not going to be around for much longer.

If DB tries to go down the Boruto road then I can see a huge number of fans completely dropping it like what a lot have done with boruto, including myself. Although Super has issues, it still feels like DB and is advancing the story, Boruto just feels like useless filler outside the 5 episode Sarada arc which itself is a Naruto side story arc, not something that originated in Boruto.
dragon boss z wrote:I wouldn't consider the super manga an advertisement for the anime. I would say it is just officiall/"canon" as the anime.
I don't either as its been doing its own thing since the Champa arc. An advertisement manga is something like RF's 3 chapters.
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Post by dragon boss z » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:31 pm

HeroR wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:
I wouldn't consider the super manga an advertisement for the anime. I would say it is just officiall/"canon" as the anime. The Super manga should be considered a continuation of the manga and the super anime the continuation of the anime.
Except that isn't true since the anime has stuff that only happened in the manga.
Well Super is kind of weird like that. It's like a mix of a continuation of Kai and the manga. However the fact it has Gregory as a character with multiple scenes and dialogue is a bigger deal than having guy who were only in the manga added as an eater egg of sorts. Though the hell scene in Kai is a good argument, I feel that was either a Toei mistake or they added that scene before RoF was finished, or before they knew they were going to make Super a continuation of Kai.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:43 pm

dragon boss z wrote:The hell scene in Kai is a good argument, I feel that was either a Toei mistake or they added that scene before RoF was finished, or before they knew they were going to make Super a continuation of Kai.
Kai went into production sometime in 2012 as that's when we were told about it by the cast which was before even BOG came out. It was less than a minute long scene so anyone not planning years ahead would've probably left it in as at the time, it didn't seem like much.
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Post by Nickolaidas » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:55 pm

Heh. That would definitely be spot on if DBS was based on U11.

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Post by Marlowe89 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:06 pm

HeroR wrote:Except the events of how Gohan met the robbers came from the manga as shown in the flashback and those events never happened in the anime not even as a throwaway. Especially since this even helped Videl identify Gohan as Saiyaman.
Videl identifying Gohan as the Great Saiyaman during that particular scene appears to be exclusive to the manga. I just took a look at the event in the manga and the flashback in Super, and there are definitely some differences between the two -- in the flashback, the smaller brother is knocked unconscious while standing instead of driving, the brothers aren't lying on the road, and there's no implication that it's where Videl discovered Gohan's identity unlike the manga. While it's a nice little throwback to those characters, it's not really the same event, which could have occurred at any point before Videl cut her hair during the anime's continuity.

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Post by TheRed259 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:53 pm

The 2nd Opening of DragonBall Super has now more than 10 million views on Toei's official YouTube account! :clap:
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Post by shadowmaria » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:05 pm

I honestly doubt that Sunday morning will possibly top this;
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped

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Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:10 pm

shadowmaria wrote:I honestly doubt that Sunday morning will possibly top this;
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
It won't even be an actual end, since the movie will continue past the TOP.
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Post by jeffbr92 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:55 pm

shadowmaria wrote:Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
This comparison makes no sense since we know no matter how screwed they end up in the final episode they will be fine on EoZ, Super never intended to be the true closure of the series like GT.
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Post by shadowmaria » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:02 am

Sandubadear wrote:
shadowmaria wrote:I honestly doubt that Sunday morning will possibly top this;
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
It won't even be an actual end, since the movie will continue past the TOP.
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shadowmaria wrote:Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
This comparison makes no sense since we know no matter how screwed they end up in the final episode they will be fine on EoZ, Super never intended to be the true closure of the series like GT.
As I'm aware, which is why the end of the last episode of Dragon Ball Super will not have the same emotional resonance

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Post by HeroR » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:04 am

shadowmaria wrote:
Sandubadear wrote:
shadowmaria wrote:I honestly doubt that Sunday morning will possibly top this;
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
It won't even be an actual end, since the movie will continue past the TOP.
jeffbr92 wrote:
shadowmaria wrote:Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
This comparison makes no sense since we know no matter how screwed they end up in the final episode they will be fine on EoZ, Super never intended to be the true closure of the series like GT.
As I'm aware, which is why the end of the last episode of Dragon Ball Super will not have the same emotional resonance
I honestly never thought the ending of GT to be emotional. More like, 'WTF just happened'.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by kn83 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:07 am

jeffbr92 wrote:
shadowmaria wrote:Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
This comparison makes no sense since we know no matter how screwed they end up in the final episode they will be fine on EoZ, Super never intended to be the true closure of the series like GT.
Exactly. We know that the last episode of Super will be some kind of cliffhanger. Not only because of the movie, but because there is no way they could cram in the Jiren fight, the wish and the end of Z in less than 25 minutes.

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Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:07 am

shadowmaria wrote:I honestly doubt that Sunday morning will possibly top this;
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
Super isn't "ending" so there's no reason to give it that kind of ending.
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Post by shadowmaria » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:25 am

sintzu wrote:
shadowmaria wrote:I honestly doubt that Sunday morning will possibly top this;
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Say what you will about GT, I don't think it's epilogue and ending could possibly be topped
Super isn't "ending" so there's no reason to give it that kind of ending.
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Super is ending. There is no more Dragon Ball Super after this weekend.

There is a movie that is franchise-tied to Super's branding, but that's it. The series is done whether we like it or not, as reported in multiple magazines and articles across the internet, including on Kanzenshuu

Magazine confirming 131 is the final episode

Korean site indicating 131 is the end

Additional interview

Like, all due respect sintzu, but these are the facts

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