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Um..why not murder him now?
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To my knoweldge their is no Cell in this timeline. Without Cell and Goku not dying at best the Z fighters can get is ssj2.FoolsGil wrote:Huh. Well if 16 isn't going to blow up Goku, inadvertently paving the way for Babidi to clean house with all the Z Fighters dead, I guess Cell will either show up now, or track down the Androids later?
Which goes back to my earlier issue, the Future Majin Attack jumped through all kinds of hoops for Mirai Gohan to survive. So how and why did this universe fail?miguelnuva1 wrote:To my knoweldge their is no Cell in this timeline. Without Cell and Goku not dying at best the Z fighters can get is ssj2.FoolsGil wrote:Huh. Well if 16 isn't going to blow up Goku, inadvertently paving the way for Babidi to clean house with all the Z Fighters dead, I guess Cell will either show up now, or track down the Androids later?
With no ssj3 or fusion Babdai could have enough power to release Buu and he would kill everyone.
The only way I see is Goku and the others use their energy up and while they are able to fight Dabura he causes them to lose enough power to wake Buu.FoolsGil wrote:Which goes back to my earlier issue, the Future Majin Attack jumped through all kinds of hoops for Mirai Gohan to survive. So how and why did this universe fail?miguelnuva1 wrote:To my knoweldge their is no Cell in this timeline. Without Cell and Goku not dying at best the Z fighters can get is ssj2.FoolsGil wrote:Huh. Well if 16 isn't going to blow up Goku, inadvertently paving the way for Babidi to clean house with all the Z Fighters dead, I guess Cell will either show up now, or track down the Androids later?
With no ssj3 or fusion Babdai could have enough power to release Buu and he would kill everyone.
I'm sensing a lot of TFS influence in this one.coola wrote:
Um..why not murder him now?
That's way too much real science for the series, and pretty much for any series with superbeings. With that level of accuracy, the mere facts that there are superbeings would be a problem on itself.Slangh wrote: If a planet-destroying power was used to move water, the result would have been an explosion of super-heated water due to the huge amount of energy transferred.
Which is one reason why I stated "of all the possible problems".Bulma would have been killed and the damage would have been catastrophic, but she's still alive and everything is still standing.
What it looks is a being, that is actually stronger than the gang, using her power (with effort) to engulf them in water that she is pushing. Unless you really want to use real, accurate science, which is incoherent with the existence of superbeings on itself, that's not a real problem. Bulma being fine is way more of a problem but even that doesn't even register compared to the real problems of this special.18 was just pushing the water outward with a force field and the result looks like a normal flood that any superhuman can dodge by jumping into the air.
Man, I can believe they wasted our time with that special, I mean what with Vegeta characterization in this page? It looks like he's from Super, while in the actual arc he's the guy who hardly begun to grow affection for his son and wife, he would be willing to keep fighting with the androids no matter how damage that could cause to Earth.coola wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]
Oh, so we're going to go brightest timeline on this huh? How about throw in Launch suddenly shows up and Tenshinhan decides he's ready to settle down, and Yamcha and #16 decide to go on a space buddy road trip or something?coola wrote:
If Goku dies he would have the tools and training to beat Buu. Keeping him alive blocks out ssj3 and fusion.FoolsGil wrote:Oh, so we're going to go brightest timeline on this huh? How about throw in Launch suddenly shows up and Tenshinhan decides he's ready to settle down, and Yamcha and #16 decide to go on a space buddy road trip or something?coola wrote:![]()
They should have just had 16 blow up Goku.
The explosion would have been large enough to envelop everyone including Piccolo. No way Goku is going to get back to Earth even if he knew SSJ3miguelnuva1 wrote:If Goku dies he would have the tools and training to beat Buu. Keeping him alive blocks out ssj3 and fusion.FoolsGil wrote:Oh, so we're going to go brightest timeline on this huh? How about throw in Launch suddenly shows up and Tenshinhan decides he's ready to settle down, and Yamcha and #16 decide to go on a space buddy road trip or something?coola wrote:![]()
They should have just had 16 blow up Goku.
If everyone dies than Buu doesn't have enough energy to get free. Also Baba could bring Goku to earth if things got bad.FoolsGil wrote:The explosion would have been large enough to envelop everyone including Piccolo. No way Goku is going to get back to Earth even if he knew SSJ3miguelnuva1 wrote:If Goku dies he would have the tools and training to beat Buu. Keeping him alive blocks out ssj3 and fusion.FoolsGil wrote:
Oh, so we're going to go brightest timeline on this huh? How about throw in Launch suddenly shows up and Tenshinhan decides he's ready to settle down, and Yamcha and #16 decide to go on a space buddy road trip or something?![]()
They should have just had 16 blow up Goku.
But without Vegeta being so desperate to fight Gokuu again, he may have been more focused on defeating Dabura before Buu has the chance to even awakenmiguelnuva1 wrote:If everyone dies than Buu doesn't have enough energy to get free. Also Baba could bring Goku to earth if things got bad.FoolsGil wrote:The explosion would have been large enough to envelop everyone including Piccolo. No way Goku is going to get back to Earth even if he knew SSJ3miguelnuva1 wrote:
If Goku dies he would have the tools and training to beat Buu. Keeping him alive blocks out ssj3 and fusion.
No Cell and leaving Goku alive is the best course for setting up a Buu wins universe.
If Goku, Gohan and Vegeta only reach Cell games level Dabura can drain them and handle them.GigaDrill wrote:But without Vegeta being so desperate to fight Gokuu again, he may have been more focused on defeating Dabura before Buu has the chance to even awakenmiguelnuva1 wrote:If everyone dies than Buu doesn't have enough energy to get free. Also Baba could bring Goku to earth if things got bad.FoolsGil wrote:
The explosion would have been large enough to envelop everyone including Piccolo. No way Goku is going to get back to Earth even if he knew SSJ3
No Cell and leaving Goku alive is the best course for setting up a Buu wins universe.