"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Geekdom101]

Except that I CHOSE to include it in the video because it came from an OFFICIAL source.
Official doesn't equals to canonical.

LOL @ Referring to anything from Dragon Ball Heroes as "canonical".

[gantarat]

Look like We will get rematch fight
Xego Goku vs Blue Berserk Goku (+ Vegeta + Trunk ?) in later mission.

[IndieBooToo]

I love the logic behind this. If Frieza can do it, then clearly so can Cooler, and by virtue of nothing but brother-ness, no less!
Looking at it from a perspective as literal as this (more literal than it should be, honestly) makes it read like El Hermano-tier writing.

Huh... Cooler is also a mutant with abnormal power level, and this is proven by the fact that he is even stronger than Freeza by default, which makes his potential even higher than Freeza can ever achieve. I don't know what is making you being surprised with that "explanation" for why he can achieve Golden Form. It is only natural that if Freeza can do it, then so can Cooler.

Cooler is not stronger than Frieza.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

Except that I CHOSE to include it in the video because it came from an OFFICIAL source.
Official doesn't equals to canonical.

LOL @ Referring to anything from Dragon Ball Heroes as "canonical".

It might not be canonical to Super but the arcade game has its own canon and is the one we have been using on this argument.

But hey, if you're willing to discard it because it's not canon, then it makes redundant to explain who is Xeno Goku or what are his skills. He is not canon anyways.

[Grimlock]

Cooler is not stronger than Frieza.

Is it not? I'm pretty sure Movie 5 and various official materials say he is.

[Kakarot]

Except that I CHOSE to include it in the video because it came from an OFFICIAL source.
Official doesn't equals to canonical.

LOL @ Referring to anything from Dragon Ball Heroes as "canonical".

Yes, the arcade, manga, and video games have their own canon. The problem with your video is that you told your audience something that directly contradicts what two canons have established. Those two being the manga and arcade.

[mahakaishin1991]

I love the logic behind this. If Frieza can do it, then clearly so can Cooler, and by virtue of nothing but brother-ness, no less!
Looking at it from a perspective as literal as this (more literal than it should be, honestly) makes it read like El Hermano-tier writing.

Huh... Cooler is also a mutant with abnormal power level, and this is proven by the fact that he is even stronger than Freeza by default, which makes his potential even higher than Freeza can ever achieve. I don't know what is making you being surprised with that "explanation" for why he can achieve Golden Form. It is only natural that if Freeza can do it, then so can Cooler.

Cooler is not stronger than Frieza.

someone needs to check the movies again

[HeroR]

Cooler is not stronger than Frieza.

Is it not? I'm pretty sure Movie 5 and various official materials say he is.

Cooler's true form is weaker than Freeza's true form. What gave Cooler the edge was his fifth form. I mean, it was one of the few things Funi did get right in the original dubbing.

[theshinobi]

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Not to mention the characters on the anime page

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[BlueVegerot]

Why is cooler getting a golden form an issue?

If saiyans can all achieve the same form then why can't cooler who albeit weaker than freeza naturally is still strong af in his own right?

This is like bitching if f trunks got super saiyan blue and claiming its cause he's vegeta's son

[Kakarot]

How do you guys feel about this rhetoric going around that nothing in Dragon Ball Heroes makes sense and it doesn't have any explanations?

[Draconic]

How do you guys feel about this rhetoric going around that nothing in Dragon Ball Heroes makes sense and it doesn't have any explanations?

Prior to introducing the he Demon God stuff, I'dhave agreed, but ever since it has had a thought out story and recurring characters, all with their own transformation chains and the such, while for most new things introduced, for villains especially, they would generally have a quick explanation during the trailers (like Towa fusing characters, or the Dark Dragon Balls giving power-ups). So that's bullshit.

The only way it "doesn't make any sense" is if you try to fit Heroes in continuity with any of the shows, since not everything can co-exist together, but with the plotline generally dealing with different timelines, different dimensions and different versions of the characters from the main show if you try to do that you must be pretty dumb. Once you understand these things, there 's nothing really wrong with Heroes.

[Hellspawn28]

I wonder if they will ever do Xeno Goku Black (Zamasu taking over Xeno Goku's body)?

[ankokudaishogun]

I wonder if they will ever do Xeno Goku Black (Zamasu taking over Xeno Goku's body)?

While not impossible(Zamasu asking to get the body of the strongest Goku instead of just Goku. If XenoSS4 is just a little weaker than post-ToP Blue, no doubt it's sufficiently stronger than before-time-trips-Blue), it would be out-of-character as Zamasu wanted Goku:Super's body because Goku:Super dared to reach for the Gods, while Xeno probably not.

[jeffbr92]

No more new info about the Hannibal Saiyan?

[Majin Demigra]

I'm pretty sure CC Goku is the strongest Goku now because of Kaioken and Ultra Instinct

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

I'm pretty sure CC Goku is the strongest Goku now because of Kaioken and Ultra Instinct

That would be the Goku from the series that is a different one from the one currently getting corrupted by the Evil Saiyan.

[Majin Demigra]

I'm pretty sure CC Goku is the strongest Goku now because of Kaioken and Ultra Instinct

That would be the Goku from the series that is a different one from the one currently getting corrupted by the Evil Saiyan.

He literally mentioned Ultra Instinct in the arc preview chapter. Even still, Kaioken makes him stronger

[HeroR]

Why is cooler getting a golden form an issue?

If saiyans can all achieve the same form then why can't cooler who albeit weaker than freeza naturally is still strong af in his own right?

This is like bitching if f trunks got super saiyan blue and claiming its cause he's vegeta's son

I just think it's odd that he can stack his golden form on his fifth form since that it isn't his natural form. It's like stacking Super Saiyan 2 on Super Saiyan 3.

[ankokudaishogun]

He literally mentioned Ultra Instinct in the arc preview chapter. Even still, Kaioken makes him stronger

We don't know if he canonically used Kaiohken in the fight against Xeno