"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by TKA » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:25 pm

Pokesamus217 wrote: So, despite being the one to bring up the idea that the abridged series isn’t better than the original series, to the point that you beleive that having that opinion completely invalidates the other opinion that people have. You aren’t actually gonna explain why it’s actually wrong.... joy.
1. If you've read my posts, I very adequately explain why comparing them is stupid. Not wrong, but stupid.

2. If you've read other users' posts you'll see why comparing them is stupid.

3. I don't wish to explain why TFS' show isn't better in any way than the original as I have no interest in doing so, nor do I think it's relevant to this topic.

4. This is my last post on this.
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Post by Shineman » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:30 pm

Pokesamus217 wrote:
TKA wrote:
Amir wrote:You haven't explained yet why DBZA didn't do better than the original in some aspects
Because I don't want to. To do so would be shitting on TFS through a comparison they themselves did not make, and I enjoy their work and personalities too much to do that.

It's common sense to see why you shouldn't compare them.
So, despite being the one to bring up the idea that the abridged series isn’t better than the original series, to the point that you beleive that having that opinion completely invalidates the other opinion that people have. You aren’t actually gonna explain why it’s actually wrong.... joy.
I still lack the understanding of how this discussion went to the direction it did in the first place.

Exline did not even link the video. He (which he clarifies) brought it up because he noticed Totally Not Mark coincidentally used the same arguments, down to using the same pages (in which he posted here in this very thread). That was it, nothing more to it. The multiple periods in the ends, I thought, indicate such.

Yet, it somehow trigger an off-topic discussion over “you need to formulate your own arguments/opinions” (which was not his intentions), or “avoid promotional circle-jerking” (which, at this point, the video still hadn’t been posted).

Furthermore, I do not understand why, to dismiss a YouTuber’s opinion because of what he thinks on another product; it has absolutely no correlations to his thoughts about the manga: none. It is an irrelevant (and off-topic) point to bring up. Piggyback of what Shaddiy said, it would be much easier to simply ignore if one does not care about it, at all, instead of making a non-issue into, well, an issue.

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Post by Miracles » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:34 pm

Xeztin wrote:What's this about a promotional manga? Does that mean the Super manga won't have the Broly material and it'll have its own non conclusive spin off like RoF? This is supposedly from Saikyo Jump.
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Did we ever find out what it's trying to promote.

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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:45 pm

It will have lots of extras to cellebrate the movie.

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:27 pm

Marlowe89 wrote:Dunno, but a lot of people are kind of jumping to the conclusion that the DBS manga will cover Broly at all. As far as I can recall, that was never explicitly confirmed.
We can probably safely assume that Toyotaro will cover it in some way. It may not be under the Super manga name, but as promotional material like RoF.

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Post by Marlowe89 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:05 pm

Doctor. wrote: We can probably safely assume that Toyotaro will cover it in some way. It may not be under the Super manga name, but as promotional material like RoF.
Promotional material sounds like a safe bet. Not that I'm discounting the possibility of it happening in the serialized manga, but Shueisha's been pretty tight-lipped about it so far.

I'm not even entirely convinced that the anime will return under the Super brand either, but we'll see. Wouldn't mind if it was just films from here on out myself.

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Post by PFM18 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:48 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Marlowe89 wrote:Dunno, but a lot of people are kind of jumping to the conclusion that the DBS manga will cover Broly at all. As far as I can recall, that was never explicitly confirmed.
We can probably safely assume that Toyotaro will cover it in some way. It may not be under the Super manga name, but as promotional material like RoF.
I could have sworn there was already confirmed that Toyotaro was going to cover the Broly arc in his manga. Maybe I'm delusional because I can't find it now.

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Post by Nokra » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:14 pm

Whether tracetaro covers it or not doesn't matter since I know it'll be inferior to the anime version like always anyway.

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Post by Rakurai » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:35 pm

Exline wrote: My intention wasn't to promote or else I would have provided a link. I was stating that TNM coincidentally used some of my arguments from the past pertaining to Toyotaro's Panelling. I assumed people would have watched it.

I tire of them all anyways besides AnimeAjay. Been losing a lot of interest in Dragon Ball Media since the anime ended and the Manga Chapters have been getting less engaging each month.
I wasn't trying to point any fingers, sorry if it sounded like I did.

The panelling while it can get cluttered, isn't that big of a deterrent. In fact I actually like the amount of dialogue that comes with it more often than not.
Nokra wrote:Whether tracetaro covers it or not doesn't matter since I know it'll be inferior to the anime version like always anyway.
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Post by Xeztin » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:40 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Marlowe89 wrote:Dunno, but a lot of people are kind of jumping to the conclusion that the DBS manga will cover Broly at all. As far as I can recall, that was never explicitly confirmed.
We can probably safely assume that Toyotaro will cover it in some way. It may not be under the Super manga name, but as promotional material like RoF.
I could have sworn there was already confirmed that Toyotaro was going to cover the Broly arc in his manga. Maybe I'm delusional because I can't find it now.
Same here, pretty sure it was an interview with Toriyama when Broly was first revealed. Something like the movie And manga may differ? I don’t care how it’s done, I just don’t want it to end without finishing like RoF. I think we’ll have a Broly backstory possibly penned by SD’s artist or something while Toyotaro does a full on movie adapt.

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Post by Nokra » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:51 pm

Rakurai wrote:
Exline wrote: My intention wasn't to promote or else I would have provided a link. I was stating that TNM coincidentally used some of my arguments from the past pertaining to Toyotaro's Panelling. I assumed people would have watched it.

I tire of them all anyways besides AnimeAjay. Been losing a lot of interest in Dragon Ball Media since the anime ended and the Manga Chapters have been getting less engaging each month.
I wasn't trying to point any fingers, sorry if it sounded like I did.

The panelling while it can get cluttered, isn't that big of a deterrent. In fact I actually like the amount of dialogue that comes with it more often than not.
Nokra wrote:Whether tracetaro covers it or not doesn't matter since I know it'll be inferior to the anime version like always anyway.
People like you are the bane of the DB fandom.
I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:

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Post by Bergamo » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:22 pm

Nokra wrote:
Rakurai wrote:
Exline wrote: My intention wasn't to promote or else I would have provided a link. I was stating that TNM coincidentally used some of my arguments from the past pertaining to Toyotaro's Panelling. I assumed people would have watched it.

I tire of them all anyways besides AnimeAjay. Been losing a lot of interest in Dragon Ball Media since the anime ended and the Manga Chapters have been getting less engaging each month.
I wasn't trying to point any fingers, sorry if it sounded like I did.

The panelling while it can get cluttered, isn't that big of a deterrent. In fact I actually like the amount of dialogue that comes with it more often than not.
Nokra wrote:Whether tracetaro covers it or not doesn't matter since I know it'll be inferior to the anime version like always anyway.
People like you are the bane of the DB fandom.
I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:
Maybe excessive criticism and petty hatred is bad in both cases? Just a thought.
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Post by PFM18 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:48 pm

Bergamo wrote:
Nokra wrote:
Rakurai wrote:
I wasn't trying to point any fingers, sorry if it sounded like I did.

The panelling while it can get cluttered, isn't that big of a deterrent. In fact I actually like the amount of dialogue that comes with it more often than not.



People like you are the bane of the DB fandom.
I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:
Maybe excessive criticism and petty hatred is bad in both cases? Just a thought.
Man, if excessive criticism and petty hatred are bad in both cases, that doesn't bode well for a lot of people!

What makes you think it isn't genuine hatred and isn't petty in any way?

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Post by Rakurai » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:20 pm

Nokra wrote: I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:
No, you're a bane for posting something with zero substance, and whose reason I can only think of is to flame those who read and enjoy the manga. You use unnecessary names like "Tracetaro" and the usual shallow "hurr durr as usual anime > manga" to flame another dumbass anime vs manga war without good reason. You're not trying to start discussion, you're trying to bash only because you're being spiteful.

As I said before, people like you are the bane of the DB fandom.
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Post by kudo6000 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:09 am

Nokra wrote:Whether tracetaro covers it or not doesn't matter since I know it'll be inferior to the anime version like always anyway.
Didn't know I was on /a/'s Super generals.

Anyways, didn't Toriyama say that the manga will continue passed the ToP arc? Therefore allowing Toyotarou to draw his own take of the film in an arc format?

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Post by Bergamo » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:58 am

PFM18 wrote:
Bergamo wrote:
Nokra wrote: I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:
Maybe excessive criticism and petty hatred is bad in both cases? Just a thought.
Man, if excessive criticism and petty hatred are bad in both cases, that doesn't bode well for a lot of people!

What makes you think it isn't genuine hatred and isn't petty in any way?
I say petty just because using phrases like "tracetaro" are more covert than, "I HATE THIS DELETE THE MANGA," but that doesn't make it reasonable or productive in a discussion.
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Post by JazzMazz » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:03 am

Well, I've been saying this for the last couple of chapters, but it can only get better from here, namely because I simply can't see myself disliking anything from here on out more than I already do.

Really hoping they nail the UI Goku vs Jiren fight. I would love for it to be an actual spectacle(something that has been sorely lacking in this tournament thus far IMO).

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Post by Nokra » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:14 am

Rakurai wrote:
Nokra wrote: I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:
No, you're a bane for posting something with zero substance, and whose reason I can only think of is to flame those who read and enjoy the manga. You use unnecessary names like "Tracetaro" and the usual shallow "hurr durr as usual anime > manga" to flame another dumbass anime vs manga war without good reason. You're not trying to start discussion, you're trying to bash only because you're being spiteful.

As I said before, people like you are the bane of the DB fandom.
Pretty sure "Tracetaro" isn't inaccurate considering that he literally traced someone else's work. Also, its funny that the manga fanboys claim that people who prefer the anime say things like "hurr durr as usual anime>manga" when that is literally what manga fanboys were the doing for the longest time against the anime. Just look in the comment section of the older manga chapters on youtube and all you see are comments like "manga>>>>anime" or "manga is so much better than the crappy anime". The manga fanboys are basically the ones who started this "anime vs manga war" in the first place but now that everyone is finally starting to realize how flawed the manga is so everything's been flipped and the manga fanboys are scrambling to defend their lord and savior Tracetaro.

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Post by Rakurai » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:11 am

Nokra wrote: Pretty sure "Tracetaro" isn't inaccurate considering that he literally traced someone else's work. Also, its funny that the manga fanboys claim that people who prefer the anime say things like "hurr durr as usual anime>manga" when that is literally what manga fanboys were the doing for the longest time against the anime. Just look in the comment section of the older manga chapters on youtube and all you see are comments like "manga>>>>anime" or "manga is so much better than the crappy anime". The manga fanboys are basically the ones who started this "anime vs manga war" in the first place but now that everyone is finally starting to realize how flawed the manga is so everything's been flipped and the manga fanboys are scrambling to defend their lord and savior Tracetaro.
Not sure if you didn't realize this by now, but this website isn't YouTube.

Though good to know that you're no better than those people on YouTube, which itself is a breeding ground for flaming, baiting, and trolling. I rest my case.

It's people like you give the DB fandom a bad rep.
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Post by TKA » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:02 am

Nokra wrote: I'm a bane for saying what I think about the manga? Good to know the DBS anime can't be criticized to hell and back but the moment the manga is given similar treatment its sooo bad. This fandom man... :problem:
This is not a critique:
Whether tracetaro covers it or not doesn't matter since I know it'll be inferior to the anime version like always anyway.
This is a critique:
Exline wrote: He fills pages with so many unneccesary panels that make it harder to read. It also takes away space from potentially good panels that could use larger art to make them more "dynamic" like many readers complain the manga lacks, myself included.
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