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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Rakurai » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:19 am

Hulk10 wrote:
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ankokudaishogun wrote:Was Broly:BR ever referred to as "legendary" in first place?
Nope.
in the movie he was hypothesized to be the Legendary Super Saiyan by the doctors who were with King Vegeta.
Oh, I forgot about that scene. But still a no in the sense that he's supposed to be "legendary," this is what they said in context (Movie spoilers):
Become, not is. This is obviously a callback to old Broly, but he's not the legendary Super Saiyan by category in the film. At least not in the way Kale or M8 Broly were ever referred to.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:01 am

That doesn't mean he isn't when he finally ascends.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Rakurai » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:05 am

Hulk10 wrote:That doesn't mean he isn't when he finally ascends.
His form is officially called "Super Saiyan: Full Power."

The doctors were just talking about how powerful Broly might become, and used LSSJ in the same sense as Vegeta did for Goku.

Broly is also called a mutant in the film, but still nowhere in the film that designates him as an incarnation of the LSSJ. No more than Goku at least.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:13 am

Rakurai wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:That doesn't mean he isn't when he finally ascends.
His form is officially called "Super Saiyan: Full Power."

The doctors were just talking about how powerful Broly might become, and used LSSJ in the same sense as Vegeta did for Goku.

Broly is also called a mutant in the film, but still nowhere in the film that designates him as an incarnation of the LSSJ. No more than Goku at least.
Still doesn't mean he can't be called a Legendary Super Saiyan. Your right but still my point stands.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Rakurai » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:19 pm

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Still doesn't mean he can't be called a Legendary Super Saiyan. Your right but still my point stands.
The LSSJ is used either in the context of the legend or as a moniker for the unique variant of SSJ that the original LSSJ Saiyan, M8 Broly, & Kale possess.

They made a tongue-in-cheek reference in the film but it's not evidence of it being called that. Even more so when the official character designs label it "Super Saiyan: Full Power." They might finally establish the connection down the line but who knows.
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Re: Wrathful form

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Rakurai wrote:
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Still doesn't mean he can't be called a Legendary Super Saiyan. Your right but still my point stands.
The LSSJ is used either in the context of the legend or as a moniker for the unique variant of SSJ that the original LSSJ Saiyan, M8 Broly, & Kale possess.

They made a tongue-in-cheek reference in the film but it's not evidence of it being called that. Even more so when the official character designs label it "Super Saiyan: Full Power." They might finally establish the connection down the line but who knows.
They also call Kale's form a Super Saiyan Full Power.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Rakurai » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:39 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
Rakurai wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:
Still doesn't mean he can't be called a Legendary Super Saiyan. Your right but still my point stands.
The LSSJ is used either in the context of the legend or as a moniker for the unique variant of SSJ that the original LSSJ Saiyan, M8 Broly, & Kale possess.

They made a tongue-in-cheek reference in the film but it's not evidence of it being called that. Even more so when the official character designs label it "Super Saiyan: Full Power." They might finally establish the connection down the line but who knows.
They also call Kale's form a Super Saiyan Full Power.
She's the Legendary Saiyan of U6. Frieza remarked she's a new kind of SSJ in the manga.
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Re: Wrathful form

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Rakurai wrote:
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The LSSJ is used either in the context of the legend or as a moniker for the unique variant of SSJ that the original LSSJ Saiyan, M8 Broly, & Kale possess.

They made a tongue-in-cheek reference in the film but it's not evidence of it being called that. Even more so when the official character designs label it "Super Saiyan: Full Power." They might finally establish the connection down the line but who knows.
They also call Kale's form a Super Saiyan Full Power.
She's the Legendary Saiyan of U6. Frieza remarked she's a new kind of SSJ in the manga.
Yeah and Broly is the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Rakurai » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:44 pm

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Yeah and Broly is the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
Likely but not confirmed yet.
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Re: Wrathful form

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Yeah and Broly is the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
Likely but not confirmed yet.
Even if its not confirmed we all will consider him the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
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Re: Wrathful form

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Hulk10 wrote:
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Hulk10 wrote:
Yeah and Broly is the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
Likely but not confirmed yet.
Even if its not confirmed we all will consider him the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
What does that even mean? Legendary isn't the name of the form, it's a saiyan becoming Super Saiyan according to the legend "once" every thousand years, Broly out of everyone became super saiyan last. And it's Super Saiyan of Legend, not Full Power Super Saiyan of Legend, if we're talking about the green form.

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Re: Wrathful form

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mute_proxy wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:
Rakurai wrote:
Likely but not confirmed yet.
Even if its not confirmed we all will consider him the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
What does that even mean? Legendary isn't the name of the form, it's a saiyan becoming Super Saiyan according to the legend "once" every thousand years, Broly out of everyone became super saiyan last. And it's Super Saiyan of Legend, not Full Power Super Saiyan of Legend, if we're talking about the green form.
We are talking about the form called the Legendary Super Saiyan, the one that Broly is most famous for.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by mute_proxy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:57 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
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Hulk10 wrote:
Even if its not confirmed we all will consider him the Legendary Saiyan of U7.
What does that even mean? Legendary isn't the name of the form, it's a saiyan becoming Super Saiyan according to the legend "once" every thousand years, Broly out of everyone became super saiyan last. And it's Super Saiyan of Legend, not Full Power Super Saiyan of Legend, if we're talking about the green form.
We are talking about the form called the Legendary Super Saiyan, the one that Broly is most famous for.
That form exists only in the older Broly movies movies, not in DBSuper.

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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:39 pm

mute_proxy wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:
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What does that even mean? Legendary isn't the name of the form, it's a saiyan becoming Super Saiyan according to the legend "once" every thousand years, Broly out of everyone became super saiyan last. And it's Super Saiyan of Legend, not Full Power Super Saiyan of Legend, if we're talking about the green form.
We are talking about the form called the Legendary Super Saiyan, the one that Broly is most famous for.
That form exists only in the older Broly movies movies, not in DBSuper.
It kinda does exist in DBS as Kale is one and so is the new Broly.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by mute_proxy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:48 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
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Hulk10 wrote:
We are talking about the form called the Legendary Super Saiyan, the one that Broly is most famous for.
That form exists only in the older Broly movies movies, not in DBSuper.
It kinda does exist in DBS as Kale is one and so is the new Broly.
Those forms are called Full Power Super Saiyan. In Kale's case it's Berserker. Looking the same doesnt mean it's the same, nor does it mean it has anything to do with saiyan legends

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Re: Wrathful form

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mute_proxy wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:
mute_proxy wrote:
That form exists only in the older Broly movies movies, not in DBSuper.
It kinda does exist in DBS as Kale is one and so is the new Broly.
Those forms are called Full Power Super Saiyan. In Kale's case it's Berserker. Looking the same doesnt mean it's the same, nor does it mean it has anything to do with saiyan legends
They don't just look the same, they act the same when in that form.
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Re: Wrathful form

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Hulk10 wrote:
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Hulk10 wrote:
It kinda does exist in DBS as Kale is one and so is the new Broly.
Those forms are called Full Power Super Saiyan. In Kale's case it's Berserker. Looking the same doesnt mean it's the same, nor does it mean it has anything to do with saiyan legends
They don't just look the same, they act the same when in that form.
Yes, because they're homages/fanservice ripoffs/reimaginings of the original. But they are not the original, and shouldn't be treated as such.

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Re: Wrathful form

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mute_proxy wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:
mute_proxy wrote:
Those forms are called Full Power Super Saiyan. In Kale's case it's Berserker. Looking the same doesnt mean it's the same, nor does it mean it has anything to do with saiyan legends
They don't just look the same, they act the same when in that form.
Yes, because they're homages/fanservice ripoffs/reimaginings of the original. But they are not the original, and shouldn't be treated as such.
I disagree.
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Re: Wrathful form

Post by ankokudaishogun » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:51 pm

Hulk10 wrote:They also call Kale's form a Super Saiyan Full Power.
Who did that?
Fro the merchandise her forms are SS(slim), Berserk(buff), and SS2(slim again)
None of her forms are called "Full Power".
Also, Cabba in the manga theorizes she might the Legendary Demonic Saiyan... which in turn implies it's different from the u7\Classic Broly's LSS
They don't just look the same, they act the same when in that form.
Broly:BR did seem less of a berserker compared to Kale who was mostly unable to discern friends and foes

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Re: Wrathful form

Post by Hulk10 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:07 pm

ankokudaishogun wrote:
Hulk10 wrote:They also call Kale's form a Super Saiyan Full Power.
Who did that?
Fro the merchandise her forms are SS(slim), Berserk(buff), and SS2(slim again)
None of her forms are called "Full Power".
Also, Cabba in the manga theorizes she might the Legendary Demonic Saiyan... which in turn implies it's different from the u7\Classic Broly's LSS
They don't just look the same, they act the same when in that form.
Broly:BR did seem less of a berserker compared to Kale who was mostly unable to discern friends and foes
Seemed like a berserker to me. But regardless I think its safe to say their forms are the same. Just a little different. Especially since Broly doesn't need to worry about blowing up like Kale does in the manga. But you do have a point about Kale being theorized that she might be a Legendary Demonic Saiyan.
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