Vic Mignogna

[SaiyaSith]

Funimation isn’t going anywhere and there is no evidence that they are doing poorly.

Idk, all of the people publicly cancelling their subscriptions, and their "cancel subscription" button magically being turned off over 2 months, might be considered evidence. Having to crowdsource a half-assed lie of a product of one of the biggest franchises in the world might be considered evidence. They have proven to be an unprofessional and half-assed company who doesn't deserve being connected to Dragon Ball. Just check the latest story on the Kanzenshuu homepage:

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2019/04/07/f ... t-trailer/

I'm rooting on Toei to come in and clean house. Maybe we'll get a quality home release for once. (without censorship, I hope...)

Regardless of what I think about the new DBZ set (which I think is really bad and won’t support) get out of your ignorant bubble. The outrage nerds you follow are not representative of anime fandom as a whole


It’s funny how you say ppl are canceling their Funi subscription when I know a lot of people just picked it up because Funi has a strong line up this season. After not subscribing for years to Funi thanks to the Funi/CR deal I just picked up a sub.


Funi did not need to crowd fund DBZ because they are doing badly. That is the most ridiculous stance I’ve ever heard. Also hope you realize Toei US supported that release since they have been promoting and retweeting it.

I don't follow anyone... I don't even have a twitter. I just heard about what was happening and searched on twitter "can't unsubscribe funimation". Then I heard about the crowdsourcing of the DVD box set and I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.

I have no stance in your Vic debate, I just like being in-the-know. But I do have a stance on Funimation and they're a crappy company. I hope Toei steals all of their voice actors and starts their own US studio. Funimation is garbage.

[kemuri07]

And as long as Funimation's products are successful and the merchandise is selling well (and everything would indicate both are the case), then they'd have to be insane to risk damaging that.

One of the theories on why the new 30th anniversary set is being crowdfunded is because Funimation is hurting on money. With so many people publicly unsubscribing from their service after this whole Vic drama, and many people reporting Funimation turned off the "cancel subscription" button, it really makes you wonder just how well they're doing. Btw, this happened multiple times over the past couple months. The first time the "cancel" button didn't work and they blamed it on a "bug" and now this time the button was removed entirely...

https://twitter.com/Some_BlackGuy/statu ... 5531102208

I wouldn't even be mad if Toei made their own US studio and cut Funimation out completely. They have their own English twitter presence now so it's entirely possible that's their plan. They can end their relationship with Funimation at any time.

dude umm...no. The reason why they're doing this is not because they're hurting for money. They're doing it to hit that FOMO button by making the product seem rare when they can obviously produce as many Blu-rays as they want. Companies do this all the time

[Mooreish]

So this interview exists.


https://youtu.be/LaxH6GZgUb0


Also here’s the full interview for those interested.


https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/images ... ast165.mp3

[KBABZ]

Toei does care about Dragon Ball but I doubt they care about Vic. Vic probably has enough hubris to think they do though.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Sorry, I know Toei does care about Dragon Ball since it's a big property of theirs, but after the Blu-Ray release of the movies and what we've seen of the Black Bricks, my knee-jerk reaction was "yeah right!"

dude umm...no. The reason why they're doing this is not because they're hurting for money. They're doing it to hit that FOMO button by making the product seem rare when they can obviously produce as many Blu-rays as they want. Companies do this all the time

I mean the other reason why is because Funimation believes that A) the market for a 4:3 version of the show is small (which IMO is only of their doing), B) DBZ has a lot of episodes, and C) Because of B, it costs a lot even if you charge $1.50 per episode. DBZ is so large it practically makes itself a problem to release it all.

[Bryesque]

So Mignogna cultists are doxxing people who've spoken out in support of victims now, targeting spouses (and children!) as they do it: https://twitter.com/Dominique_Skye/stat ... 1159042054

They're bad people.

[Kinokima]

So Mignogna cultists are doxxing people who've spoken out in support of victims now, targeting spouses (and children!) as they do it: https://twitter.com/Dominique_Skye/stat ... 1159042054

They're bad people.

Just saw that they are literally posting pictures of her daughter (a child). How sick can these people be?

[Mooreish]

So Mignogna cultists are doxxing people who've spoken out in support of victims now, targeting spouses (and children!) as they do it: https://twitter.com/Dominique_Skye/stat ... 1159042054

They're bad people.

Just saw that they are literally posting pictures of her daughter (a child). How sick can these people be?

Dude, don’t just label everyone. We didn’t label all of you when one of you faked a swatting.

[kemuri07]

Because they're alt-right incels who hate the women and lack empathy to be decent people, but wonder why they can't find a date.

They're garbage people and should be considered as such.

[Mooreish]

Because they're alt-right incels who hate the women and lack empathy to be decent people, but wonder why they can't find a date.

They're garbage people and should be considered as such.

...dude you need help. You are labeling an entire group of people for the actions of one person or a small group of people.

[SaiyaSith]

Because they're alt-right incels who hate the women and lack empathy to be decent people, but wonder why they can't find a date.

It was apparently a woman who posted her information. (according to Rekeeta, via his Twitch stream)

[Shaddy]

Dude, don’t just label everyone. We didn’t label all of you when one of you faked a swatting.

Actually, it's all that you do. You've constantly labelled every single one of the victims and their supporters as liars and fakes, right from the start. It is the foundation of your entire shitty argument. Supporting Vic is saying hundreds of victims are evil liars. Supporting Vic is enabling his behavior. Supporting Vic is denying evidence, how the legal system works, and how jobs at Funimation work. You are not going to get by saying "oh but you should be nicer to the other side". That is day one victim-blaming. We're not going to be your fucking friends on this, it's not whether you like the Faulconer or Kikuchi score better. People's safety is on the line here.

[XanatosVanBadass]

So Mignogna cultists are doxxing people who've spoken out in support of victims now, targeting spouses (and children!) as they do it: https://twitter.com/Dominique_Skye/stat ... 1159042054

They're bad people.

Just saw that they are literally posting pictures of her daughter (a child). How sick can these people be?

Dude, don’t just label everyone. We didn’t label all of you when one of you faked a swatting.

The other day your side labeled me an SJW cuck for being pro Kick Vick. Go away.

[Fionordequester]

The other day your side labeled me an SJW cuck for being pro Kick Vick. Go away.

I too have been insulted for arguing KickVic's case.

[tinlunlau]

At this point, there really is no point on continuing the Vic Mignonga discussion. Funimation VA's are already imploding on themselves before Vic is even given a fair trial. Someone please lock this thread!!!

[KBABZ]

At this point, there really is no point on continuing the Vic Mignonga discussion. Funimation VA's are already imploding on themselves before Vic is even given a fair trial. Someone please lock this thread!!!

I mean... no? There will of course be future developments to this story, most pertinently who Vic's replacement VAs might be, particularly the big three he used to voice: Broly, Edward and that RWBY character. Not to mention The Continuing Jack Thompson-Like Misadventures of Rekieta and Friends (available in cropped-widescreen this summer).

[XanatosVanBadass]

If nothing else, I’m glad this discussion is happening because it exposes just how frankly stupid and ugly the US Dragon Ball fandom can be. Again, look at how civil the RWBY fans have been by comparison. At least from what I’ve seen.

[kemuri07]

Because they're alt-right incels who hate the women and lack empathy to be decent people, but wonder why they can't find a date.

They're garbage people and should be considered as such.

...dude you need help. You are labeling an entire group of people for the actions of one person or a small group of people.

Nope. I think my sentiments are more than valid. And considering what other people hear are saying about your conduct on this forum, I don't think it's me that needs help.

It's called (and say it with me guys) being C O M P L I C I T.. What that means is maybe you're not the one doxxing or actively harassing people, but you clearly share beliefs and sentiments in a group that allows such harassment to take place. And much like how I feel about Trumpers/Gamer gaters/comic gaters/ and the alt-right in general: you decide to fly that flag, you decide to regurgitate the bullshit that surrounds those groups--you own everything terrible thing those groups have done.

No one owes you the benefit of the doubt. Especially if you're coming here and calling people "cucks." As far as I'm concerned, you're showing people exactly the kind of person you are. So yeah...I think you're a garbage person.

[KBABZ]

And much like how I feel about Trumpers/Gamer gaters/comic gaters/ and the alt-right in general: you decide to fly that flag, you decide to regurgitate the bullshit that surrounds those groups--you own everything terrible thing those groups have done.

I don't think it's fair to just lump them all in like that, though. There has been at least one case of someone who was ProVic, came here, and changed their mind. In a similar fashion, just because you voted for Trump doesn't mean you're 100% on board with absolutely everything he'll say and do.

[kemuri07]

And much like how I feel about Trumpers/Gamer gaters/comic gaters/ and the alt-right in general: you decide to fly that flag, you decide to regurgitate the bullshit that surrounds those groups--you own everything terrible thing those groups have done.

I don't think it's fair to just lump them all in like that, though. There has been at least one case of someone who was ProVic, came here, and changed their mind. In a similar fashion, just because you voted for Trump doesn't mean you're 100% on board with absolutely everything he'll say and do.

But you still voted for Trump (not you obviously), and therefore you helped allow our current political situation to happen. Yes, maybe they're not the ones attacking Muslims or calling people the N-word, but you are still complicit in allowing these things to happen. So I do think it's absolutely more than fair.

Unless you are actively trying to make a change for the better, you shouldn't be allowed to simply exist doing the bare minimum and expect people to treat you fair. Being compassionate and being empathetic are things you "work on" not things that just happen. I think we take for granted the idea of maturity, when in reality people simply get better (usually at least) at hiding their awfulness.

Regarding your example: Sure, if someone changes their mind, that's a good thing. But the onus is on them to make that change, not me. And there is more than enough resources out their on the internet that can help, so I kind of have no sympathy for people who willingly stay ignorant. And unfortunately, a shocking amount of people do just that.

[Kinokima]

For the record I never said EVERYONE in the I Stand With Vic crowd is acting horribly but I see very little condemnation of it. Just saying it’s not everyone kind of misses the point. On that thread the Doxxing May have been done by one person but many were encouraging it. Same with those awful t/shirts mocking someone. Only one person made it but many were laughing about it.

When the fake swatting thing happened many people on the Kick Vic side did speak out against it saying this hurts real victims.


So do I think everyone in the I Stand With Vic side is alt-right/gamer gate. No I dont. But a large majority of the group are and certainly the loudest voices of the group are.