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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm

ZombieVito wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:58 pm
New fights:

SS2 Goku vs SS2 Future Trunks. Both from episode 49 of Super. Goku can't access anything higher than SS2.
Merged Zamasu [Halo; No immortality] vs SSB Kaioken x10 Goku [U6 arc; No stamina issues].
Android 17 [ToP; No infinite stamina] vs SSR Goku Black [E64; No Scythe].
Hit [ToP; No time abilities] vs SSR Goku Black [E64; No scythe].
Piccolo [ToP; After training with Gohan] vs Bootenks [No magic or absorptions].
Base Gogeta vs SSB Goku. Both Broly movie. Goku can use Blue Kaioken.
Frost [ToP] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc].
SS2 Kefla vs GoD Toppo [No Hakai].
Yakon vs King Cold.
Ginyu Tagoma vs SS Goku [Cell games].
- Goku is better expierence wise.
- This Goku probably cannot lay a finger on SsjR Black, let alome Merged Zamasu.
- No infinite stamina? Then 17 has no chance at all.
- Black outclasses him badly, but Hit can still kill him with that invisible death-fist.
- Buutenks stomps.
- SsjB KK Goku doesn't exist in the movie. Anyway, pass.
- Still Vegeta, less easily though.
- No Hakai? Then Kefla definitely takes this.
- Yakon's base Buu saga Goku tier. In BOG we find out that Base Goku is weaker than Namek arc Freeza. Cold wins.
- Ginyu Tagoma was ridiculized by a weak Ssj Gohan. That Goku does the same.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sūpāsaiya » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:41 pm

New Fights!

1. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) Vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Saga/Pre-Majin)
2. SSJB Goku (End of Black Arc) Vs SSJB Vegeta (End of Black Arc)
3. Good Boo Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta
4. SSJ2 Trunks (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) Vs SSJG Goku (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight)
5. SSJ Kefla Vs SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Trunks (Goku Black Arc)

Who I Think Wins...

1. Gohan should stomp based on the fact that Vegeta is impressed that Goku surpassed Cell Games Gohan as a SSJ2. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan > SSJ Goku. Vegeta was salty that Goku was so much stronger than him, and this Goku should be comparable to SSJ2 Gohan, therefore, you can say that Gohan destroys Vegeta.
2. Goku stomps. After Vegeta and Trunks used the Father-Son Galick Gun, Merged Zamasu one-shots Vegeta with some lightning. Goku however, is able to fight this Merged Zamasu alone, and actually damage him somewhat. Even without Kaio-Ken, Vegeta would still get fodderized by Goku.
3. Boo should be a little less than half of Fat Boo, due to the fact that Evil Boo got the most of the power. Fat Boo was already comparable to SSJ3 Goku, but inferior obivously. SSJ3 = 4x SSJ2. So Good Boo should be a little less than 2x SSJ2. A bit weaker, but due to how very low power level gaps in dragon ball are enough to slap somebody completely, Good Boo should stomp.
4. You might be like "What?! How can fodder Trunks do anything against God Goku?!" But hold up, let me explain. SSJ2 Trunks was shown to be roughly as strong as Blue Goku. If you think he can’t be because he’s just a SSJ2, you’re wrong. Kefla, who could only go SSJ2, was a lot, lot stronger than Blue Goku. Cumber, who can only go SSJ3 from what we’ve seen so far, is able to smack VEGITO. (Heroes isn’t ‘canon’, but the point is that how many forms you have doesn’t matter. Trunks is blue level as a SSJ2, and SSJR is just a weaker form then most people think. And obivously: SSJ Blue >> SSJ God.
5. SSJ Kefla is compared to the spirit bomb by Whis, and he states her power is comparable to it. Which also makes sense, because Kefla forced Goku to Ultra Instinct "Omen", which is what the spirit bomb did earlier, so yeah... She stomps the Black Arc SSJBs, and also Trunks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:05 am

Sūpāsaiya wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:41 pm
New Fights!

1. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) Vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Saga/Pre-Majin)
2. SSJB Goku (End of Black Arc) Vs SSJB Vegeta (End of Black Arc)
3. Good Boo Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta
4. SSJ2 Trunks (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) Vs SSJG Goku (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight)
5. SSJ Kefla Vs SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Trunks (Goku Black Arc)

Who I Think Wins...

1. Gohan should stomp based on the fact that Vegeta is impressed that Goku surpassed Cell Games Gohan as a SSJ2. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan > SSJ Goku. Vegeta was salty that Goku was so much stronger than him, and this Goku should be comparable to SSJ2 Gohan, therefore, you can say that Gohan destroys Vegeta.
2. Goku stomps. After Vegeta and Trunks used the Father-Son Galick Gun, Merged Zamasu one-shots Vegeta with some lightning. Goku however, is able to fight this Merged Zamasu alone, and actually damage him somewhat. Even without Kaio-Ken, Vegeta would still get fodderized by Goku.
3. Boo should be a little less than half of Fat Boo, due to the fact that Evil Boo got the most of the power. Fat Boo was already comparable to SSJ3 Goku, but inferior obivously. SSJ3 = 4x SSJ2. So Good Boo should be a little less than 2x SSJ2. A bit weaker, but due to how very low power level gaps in dragon ball are enough to slap somebody completely, Good Boo should stomp.
4. You might be like "What?! How can fodder Trunks do anything against God Goku?!" But hold up, let me explain. SSJ2 Trunks was shown to be roughly as strong as Blue Goku. If you think he can’t be because he’s just a SSJ2, you’re wrong. Kefla, who could only go SSJ2, was a lot, lot stronger than Blue Goku. Cumber, who can only go SSJ3 from what we’ve seen so far, is able to smack VEGITO. (Heroes isn’t ‘canon’, but the point is that how many forms you have doesn’t matter. Trunks is blue level as a SSJ2, and SSJR is just a weaker form then most people think. And obivously: SSJ Blue >> SSJ God.
5. SSJ Kefla is compared to the spirit bomb by Whis, and he states her power is comparable to it. Which also makes sense, because Kefla forced Goku to Ultra Instinct "Omen", which is what the spirit bomb did earlier, so yeah... She stomps the Black Arc SSJBs, and also Trunks.
R1 its a tie imo. I have both of the at 4800 kiri
R2 vegeta was clearly sstronger at that time
R3 majin vegeta
R4 goku lol, that not even to question
R5 kefla stomps with a finger,probably even in base
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:15 am

Sūpāsaiya wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:41 pm
New Fights!

1. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) Vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Saga/Pre-Majin)
2. SSJB Goku (End of Black Arc) Vs SSJB Vegeta (End of Black Arc)
3. Good Boo Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta
4. SSJ2 Trunks (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) Vs SSJG Goku (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight)
5. SSJ Kefla Vs SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Trunks (Goku Black Arc)
Gohan is stronger but Vegeta is way more experienced than him. Vegeta might pull a win if he gets lucky.
Goku wins with mid difficulty.
Boo is still stronger IMO.
Trunks gets one shotted unfortunately. Him kicking Black one doesn't make him as strong as SSG.
SS Kefla is way stronger than SSB KKx20 Goku so they can't do anything to her.

New Fights:

SSR Sword of Hope Future Trunks vs SSB Vegetto [No time limit]. Both Black arc.
Present Zamasu [Mind 100% in the fight] vs SS2 Goku [Super E53].
Final form Freeza [ToP arc] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc].
Base Gohan [Post Sword training] vs Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan. Humans all from the ToP arc. No Kienzan, Mafuba or Kikoho.
Bardock [Minus] vs Appule.
SS Goten [Post RoSaT] vs SS Future Trunks [Cell games].

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:26 am

ZombieVito wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:15 am
Sūpāsaiya wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:41 pm
New Fights!

1. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) Vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Saga/Pre-Majin)
2. SSJB Goku (End of Black Arc) Vs SSJB Vegeta (End of Black Arc)
3. Good Boo Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta
4. SSJ2 Trunks (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) Vs SSJG Goku (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight)
5. SSJ Kefla Vs SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Trunks (Goku Black Arc)
Gohan is stronger but Vegeta is way more experienced than him. Vegeta might pull a win if he gets lucky.
Goku wins with mid difficulty.
Boo is still stronger IMO.
Trunks gets one shotted unfortunately. Him kicking Black one doesn't make him as strong as SSG.
SS Kefla is way stronger than SSB KKx20 Goku so they can't do anything to her.

New Fights:

SSR Sword of Hope Future Trunks vs SSB Vegetto [No time limit]. Both Black arc.
Present Zamasu [Mind 100% in the fight] vs SS2 Goku [Super E53].
Final form Freeza [ToP arc] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc].
Base Gohan [Post Sword training] vs Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan. Humans all from the ToP arc. No Kienzan, Mafuba or Kikoho.
Bardock [Minus] vs Appule.
SS Goten [Post RoSaT] vs SS Future Trunks [Cell games].
R1 vegetto. Trunks gave the last blow to an already thrashed zamasu
R2 I'd say Goku anyway
R3 freezer flicks
R4 gohan
R5 bardock is featless, so is appoole
R6 goten by a good margin.
A ssj goten who didn't trained for like 5 years was capaple to hold his own againt not 1 , but 2 cell jrs, while future trunks at the cell games has been thrashed by one
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:30 am

ZombieVito wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:58 pm
DestructoDisc wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:01 pm
Gine vs General Blue
ToP base Gohan vs Kahseral
GT SSJ Trunks vs Master Roshi, Tien and Krillin (post ToP)
SSJ Kefla vs Super 17 (GT)
Cell saga Android 35 (17 and 18 fused together with the potara earrings) vs Semi-Perfect Cell
Gine blinks and Blue disappears.
I honestly don't know. Both are base tier though. Could go either way.
Only way the could win is for Roshi to use the Mafuba or Kuririn getting lucky with his Kienzan.
Kefla.
Even if the fusion isn't ideal and gets a big boost, they are close enough to Cell for the fusion to win.
AvatarReiko wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:02 pm
Buuhan vs Current Good Buu
Boo at the very least is close to ToP base Goku after his training so he beats Buuhan with minimal issues.

New fights:

SS2 Goku vs SS2 Future Trunks. Both from episode 49 of Super. Goku can't access anything higher than SS2.
Merged Zamasu [Halo; No immortality] vs SSB Kaioken x10 Goku [U6 arc; No stamina issues].
Android 17 [ToP; No infinite stamina] vs SSR Goku Black [E64; No Scythe].
Hit [ToP; No time abilities] vs SSR Goku Black [E64; No scythe].
Piccolo [ToP; After training with Gohan] vs Bootenks [No magic or absorptions].
Base Gogeta vs SSB Goku. Both Broly movie. Goku can use Blue Kaioken.
Frost [ToP] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc].
SS2 Kefla vs GoD Toppo [No Hakai].
Yakon vs King Cold.
Ginyu Tagoma vs SS Goku [Cell games].
R1 goku
R2 I would say zamasu in this
R3 17 thrashes
R4 piccolo neg diff
R5 if Goku uses base blue, gogeta wins. With kaioken, Goku wins
R6 frost (top) easily
R7 yakon
R8 tagoma
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:17 am

ZombieVito wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:15 am


New Fights:

SSR Sword of Hope Future Trunks vs SSB Vegetto [No time limit]. Both Black arc.
Present Zamasu [Mind 100% in the fight] vs SS2 Goku [Super E53].
Final form Freeza [ToP arc] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc].
Base Gohan [Post Sword training] vs Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan. Humans all from the ToP arc. No Kienzan, Mafuba or Kikoho.
Bardock [Minus] vs Appule.
SS Goten [Post RoSaT] vs SS Future Trunks [Cell games].
- Vegito, of course.
- Stalemate.
- Freeza murders him in an instant.
- Gohan one-shots them all. :D
- Pass.
- Trunks is (still) much stronger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sūpāsaiya » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:08 am

ZombieVito wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:15 am
Sūpāsaiya wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:41 pm
New Fights!

1. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) Vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Saga/Pre-Majin)
2. SSJB Goku (End of Black Arc) Vs SSJB Vegeta (End of Black Arc)
3. Good Boo Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta
4. SSJ2 Trunks (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) Vs SSJG Goku (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight)
5. SSJ Kefla Vs SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Trunks (Goku Black Arc)
Gohan is stronger but Vegeta is way more experienced than him. Vegeta might pull a win if he gets lucky.
Goku wins with mid difficulty.
Boo is still stronger IMO.
Trunks gets one shotted unfortunately. Him kicking Black one doesn't make him as strong as SSG.
SS Kefla is way stronger than SSB KKx20 Goku so they can't do anything to her.
Agree on 1, but I say it’s a lot more one-sided.
Agree on 2.
Agree on 3.
Heavily disagree on 4, he was shown to be relative to Goku, he did about as well as Goku did. Therefore, Trunks could maybe even slap Vegeta. :shock:
Agree on 5.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:25 am

  • Cumber (Super Saiyan) vs Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan)
  • Majin Buu (Fit form, Moro Arc) vs Goku Black (Fully-powered Base form, FT Arc)
  • Freeza (Golden form, Ressurection F Arc) vs Vegeta (Super Saiyan God, Broly Arc)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan, Broly Arc) vs Toppo (God of Destruction Mode, Universe Conflict Arc)
  • Janemba (Super form, Fusion Reborn Arc) vs Vegeta (Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan 2, Pre-Majin, Buu Saga)
  • Rilldo (Hyper Meta form) vs Present Zamasu
  • Copy Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue, post-ToP) vs Goku (Super Saiyan Blue, Kaio Ken ×10, Copy Vegeta Arc)
  • Garlic Jr. (Giant empowered form) vs Goku (Kaio Ken ×4, Freeza Saga)
  • Broly Old, Legendary Super Saiyan God) vs Broly (New, C-type Super Saiyan)
  • Syn Shenron vs Baby Vegeta (Golden Great Ape)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJgogeto » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:32 am

Gine vs General Blue - Gine
ToP base Gohan vs Kahseral - Kahseral
GT SSJ Trunks vs Master Roshi, Tien and Krillin (post ToP) - Trunks
SSJ Kefla vs Super 17 (GT) - Kefla
Cell saga Android 35 (17 and 18 fused together with the potara earrings) vs Semi-Perfect Cell - 35

Buuhan vs Current Good Buu - Buuhan

SS2 Goku vs SS2 Future Trunks. Both from episode 49 of Super. Goku can't access anything higher than SS2. - Trunks
Merged Zamasu [Halo; No immortality] vs SSB Kaioken x10 Goku [U6 arc; No stamina issues]. - Goku
Android 17 [ToP; No infinite stamina] vs SSR Goku Black [E64; No Scythe]. - 17
Hit [ToP; No time abilities] vs SSR Goku Black [E64; No scythe]. - Hit
Piccolo [ToP; After training with Gohan] vs Bootenks [No magic or absorptions]. - Piccolo
Base Gogeta vs SSB Goku. Both Broly movie. Goku can use Blue Kaioken. - Goku
Frost [ToP] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc]. - Vegeta
SS2 Kefla vs GoD Toppo [No Hakai]. - Kefla
Yakon vs King Cold. - Cold
Ginyu Tagoma vs SS Goku [Cell games]. - Tagoma

1. Enraged SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) Vs SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Saga/Pre-Majin) - Gohan
2. SSJB Goku (End of Black Arc) Vs SSJB Vegeta (End of Black Arc) - Goku
3. Good Boo Vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta - Majin Vegeta, probably
4. SSJ2 Trunks (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) Vs SSJG Goku (1st Goku Black and Zamasu Fight) - Goku
5. SSJ Kefla Vs SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Trunks (Goku Black Arc) - Kefla

SSR Sword of Hope Future Trunks vs SSB Vegetto [No time limit]. Both Black arc. - Vegetto
Present Zamasu [Mind 100% in the fight] vs SS2 Goku [Super E53]. - Goku
Final form Freeza [ToP arc] vs SS Vegeta [U6 arc]. - Freeza
Base Gohan [Post Sword training] vs Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan. Humans all from the ToP arc. No Kienzan, Mafuba or Kikoho. - Gohan
Bardock [Minus] vs Appule. - Appule
SS Goten [Post RoSaT] vs SS Future Trunks [Cell games]. - Trunks

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Post by p-hyvo » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:38 am

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:25 am
  • Cumber (Super Saiyan) vs Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan)
  • Majin Buu (Fit form, Moro Arc) vs Goku Black (Fully-powered Base form, FT Arc)
  • Freeza (Golden form, Ressurection F Arc) vs Vegeta (Super Saiyan God, Broly Arc)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan, Broly Arc) vs Toppo (God of Destruction Mode, Universe Conflict Arc)
  • Janemba (Super form, Fusion Reborn Arc) vs Vegeta (Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan 2, Pre-Majin, Buu Saga)
  • Rilldo (Hyper Meta form) vs Present Zamasu
  • Copy Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue, post-ToP) vs Goku (Super Saiyan Blue, Kaio Ken ×10, Copy Vegeta Arc)
  • Garlic Jr. (Giant empowered form) vs Goku (Kaio Ken ×4, Freeza Saga)
  • Broly Old, Legendary Super Saiyan God) vs Broly (New, C-type Super Saiyan)
  • Syn Shenron vs Baby Vegeta (Golden Great Ape)

R1cumber reverses to base and solos dbs
R2 I'd say buu
R3 vegeta reverses to base and stomps
R4 toppo from ccl timeline wins without God mode
R5 janemba
R6 zamasu
R7 copy vegeta reverses to base and stomps
R8 Goku
R9 new broly in base
R10 syn sends haze to rape baby vegeta
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:48 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:25 am
  • Cumber (Super Saiyan) vs Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan)
  • Majin Buu (Fit form, Moro Arc) vs Goku Black (Fully-powered Base form, FT Arc)
  • Freeza (Golden form, Ressurection F Arc) vs Vegeta (Super Saiyan God, Broly Arc)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan, Broly Arc) vs Toppo (God of Destruction Mode, Universe Conflict Arc)
  • Janemba (Super form, Fusion Reborn Arc) vs Vegeta (Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan 2, Pre-Majin, Buu Saga)
  • Rilldo (Hyper Meta form) vs Present Zamasu
  • Copy Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue, post-ToP) vs Goku (Super Saiyan Blue, Kaio Ken ×10, Copy Vegeta Arc)
  • Garlic Jr. (Giant empowered form) vs Goku (Kaio Ken ×4, Freeza Saga)
  • Broly Old, Legendary Super Saiyan God) vs Broly (New, C-type Super Saiyan)
  • Syn Shenron vs Baby Vegeta (Golden Great Ape)
- Base Cumber gave SsjB Vegito with Kaiohken a run for his money. Broly gets destroyed.
- Fit Buu doesn't exist in the manga. Anyway, since he was curbstomping Moro, Black can't really do nothing to him.
- Freeza.
- Toppo, high difficulty.
- What? :shock:
- Base Rildo would win since he's Ssj3+ level while Zamasu is hardly Ssj2 level.
- This makes no sense, there isn't a Copy Vegeta after the ToP arc.
- It depends which Garlic and which Goku.
- :shifty:
- Syn easily.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:58 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:48 pm
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:25 am
  • Cumber (Super Saiyan) vs Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan)
  • Majin Buu (Fit form, Moro Arc) vs Goku Black (Fully-powered Base form, FT Arc)
  • Freeza (Golden form, Ressurection F Arc) vs Vegeta (Super Saiyan God, Broly Arc)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan, Broly Arc) vs Toppo (God of Destruction Mode, Universe Conflict Arc)
  • Janemba (Super form, Fusion Reborn Arc) vs Vegeta (Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan 2, Pre-Majin, Buu Saga)
  • Rilldo (Hyper Meta form) vs Present Zamasu
  • Copy Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue, post-ToP) vs Goku (Super Saiyan Blue, Kaio Ken ×10, Copy Vegeta Arc)
  • Garlic Jr. (Giant empowered form) vs Goku (Kaio Ken ×4, Freeza Saga)
  • Broly Old, Legendary Super Saiyan God) vs Broly (New, C-type Super Saiyan)
  • Syn Shenron vs Baby Vegeta (Golden Great Ape)
- Base Cumber gave SsjB Vegito with Kaiohken a run for his money. Broly gets destroyed.
- Fit Buu doesn't exist in the manga. Anyway, since he was curbstomping Moro, Black can't really do nothing to him.
- Freeza.
- Toppo, high difficulty.
- What? :shock:
- Base Rildo would win since he's Ssj3+ level while Zamasu is hardly Ssj2 level.
- This makes no sense, there isn't a Copy Vegeta after the ToP arc.
- It depends which Garlic and which Goku.
- :shifty:
- Syn easily.
Oh, I see. Well a certain character doesn't need to exist for me or anyone to come up with these "versuses" (?). Fit Buu doesn't exist in the manag, but this versus assumes that he is in that form, from that specific time. That is all. You can make up with your knowledge a power level for him in said state. Copy Vegeta for example was stated to be as strong as Vegeta, so after the ToP, he would be equal to Post-ToP vegeta. I just said Copy Vegeta to make it more interesting. Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan is a form. There I asked if Vegeta before becoming a Majin, thus getting a power-up, would be able to take on Super Janemba, with said form. Lastly, I assume that you do not know of the Legendary Super Saiyan God form?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:17 am

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:25 am
  • Cumber (Super Saiyan) vs Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan)
  • Majin Buu (Fit form, Moro Arc) vs Goku Black (Fully-powered Base form, FT Arc)
  • Freeza (Golden form, Ressurection F Arc) vs Vegeta (Super Saiyan God, Broly Arc)
  • Gogeta (Super Saiyan, Broly Arc) vs Toppo (God of Destruction Mode, Universe Conflict Arc)
  • Janemba (Super form, Fusion Reborn Arc) vs Vegeta (Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan 2, Pre-Majin, Buu Saga)
  • Rilldo (Hyper Meta form) vs Present Zamasu
  • Copy Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue, post-ToP) vs Goku (Super Saiyan Blue, Kaio Ken ×10, Copy Vegeta Arc)
  • Garlic Jr. (Giant empowered form) vs Goku (Kaio Ken ×4, Freeza Saga)
  • Broly Old, Legendary Super Saiyan God) vs Broly (New, C-type Super Saiyan)
  • Syn Shenron vs Baby Vegeta (Golden Great Ape)
-Cumber one shots
-Goku Black easily
-Vegeta with little difficulty
-Gogeta wins at base
-Not sure what you meant by "Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan 2" so idk
-Rilldo wins at base
-Goku still wins
-Goku
-New Broly wins unless OG Broly increased his base power as well
-Syn one shots
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MainJPW » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:31 pm

ruler9871 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:54 pm
Base Black (in his prime+scythe) vs Base Kefla
UI Omen Goku (DBS Broly) vs Full Power Broly (DBS)
Base Vegito (ToP) vs Hit (ToP)
Enraged Base Broly vs A17 (ToP)
Base Vegito (Namek arc) vs Perfect Cell
Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs General Rildo
Aniraza vs SSJR Goku Black (scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
Base Gotenks (DBS) vs 1 Cell Jr
Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (ep.122)
Krillin (ToP) vs Dabura
Black via scythe.
Broli high difficulty.
Hit.
C17.
Unquantifiable.
Skip.
Without knowledge Aniraza.
Gotenks oneshots.
Gogeta.
Dabra spits on him again.
ZombieVito wrote:
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New fights:

Gohan [No Ultimate form] vs Piccolo. Both are their ToP versions.
Gohan [Ultimate form; ToP arc] vs Hit [E71-72; No time abilities].
Toppo [No GoD form] vs SSR Trunks.
Tarble vs Raditz.
20 [At his strongest; No further absorption's] vs Mecha Freeza.
King Vegeta vs Goku [No Kaioken; Saiyan arc].
Paragus [Age 737] vs Nappa [Saiyan arc].
Piccolo chokes him out again.
Hit via superior skill.
Trunks high difficulty.
Tarble oneshots based on surviving Freeza level opponents.
Dr. Gero.
King Vegeta was probably over 10,000 according to Daizenshuu 7 stating he was the strongest Saiyan at the time of Planet Vegeta’s destruction but lower than Vegeta based on his statement of surpassing him as a kid. So King Vegeta probably.
Nappa stomps. Paragus is featless and can’t even shoot ki whereas Goku was, by his own admission, having trouble with a calmed Nappa which puts him higher than Paragus’s stated power level.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Wed May 01, 2019 4:06 am

Oof and there goes my discussion with P-hyvo concerning Perfected Blue and the two evolved variants...lol

Anyway, I will try to make a new versus.

Broly (New, C-type SSJ) vs Goku (SSJB), Vegeta (SSJB) and Freeza (True Golden Form)
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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Sun May 05, 2019 8:02 am

Also, I would like to bring up the power of Fin with SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed.

What is his level? First and foremost, how steong is Fin in your opinion?

Would it be an overkill if he faced, in said form, Buu?

Like:

Fin (SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed) vs Super Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks, Piccolo, Ultimate Gohan, Super Vegito absorbed)

Note that all the absorbed individuals are from the Shadow Dragons arc, meaning Gotenks is an adult and Vegito is in his GT counterpart, Gohan has ultimate etc. )
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Post by p-hyvo » Sun May 05, 2019 8:30 am

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 8:02 am
Also, I would like to bring up the power of Fin with SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed.

What is his level? First and foremost, how steong is Fin in your opinion?

Would it be an overkill if he faced, in said form, Buu?

Like:

Fin (SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed) vs Super Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks, Piccolo, Ultimate Gohan, Super Vegito absorbed)

Note that all the absorbed individuals are from the Shadow Dragons arc, meaning Gotenks is an adult and Vegito is in his GT counterpart, Gohan has ultimate etc. )
Logically speaking, super buu can't absorb anyone from gt. They are too strong in comparison to him, they would annihilate him without giving him the time to even think about absorb them.anyway, ssj4 gogeta by himself would be stronger , not considering finn.

About finn, he blitzes the xeno patrollers so he has for sure a speed superior to infinite (xeno Goku and friends have infinite speed, they move in places without time). In the manga, finn with gogeta absorbed is currently going to face xeno gogeta ssj4 and, in the videogame, he's so strong he just oneshots everyone. So yeah, good question about finn.no one really knows until his showdown with xeno gogeta ssj4 is ended
remember fellas, anyone in gt after m2 >>>anyone in z (bog + rof excluded obv)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Sun May 05, 2019 9:01 am

p-hyvo wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 8:30 am
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 8:02 am
Also, I would like to bring up the power of Fin with SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed.

What is his level? First and foremost, how steong is Fin in your opinion?

Would it be an overkill if he faced, in said form, Buu?

Like:

Fin (SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed) vs Super Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks, Piccolo, Ultimate Gohan, Super Vegito absorbed)

Note that all the absorbed individuals are from the Shadow Dragons arc, meaning Gotenks is an adult and Vegito is in his GT counterpart, Gohan has ultimate etc. )
Logically speaking, super buu can't absorb anyone from gt. They are too strong in comparison to him, they would annihilate him without giving him the time to even think about absorb them.anyway, ssj4 gogeta by himself would be stronger , not considering finn.

About finn, he blitzes the xeno patrollers so he has for sure a speed superior to infinite (xeno Goku and friends have infinite speed, they move in places without time). In the manga, finn with gogeta absorbed is currently going to face xeno gogeta ssj4 and, in the videogame, he's so strong he just oneshots everyone. So yeah, good question about finn.no one really knows until his showdown with xeno gogeta ssj4 is ended
So, even if Buu was capable of absorbing said individuals, it wouldn't matter, would it?

Although, I do question SSJ3 Gotenks' power since the Baby Saga, prior to Goku using UFP for the first time, where he stated that he and Gotenks wouldn't be enough. Was he just exaggerating? Baby was strong, but even if we say that Goten and Trunks in their SSJ are 10 times weaker than Super Goku, then Gotenks should be above their peak.

That said, Base Gotenks should be 1/5th of Super Goku's strentgh. Multiply that by 400 for SSJ3 and we get a ×8000 of Super Goten or Trunks (always having in mind that Super Saiyan in GT has a multiplier of 100× Base).

Wouldn't that power even compare to SSJ4 Goku? Not even the way Strongest Form 2 Baby Vegeta did?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Sun May 05, 2019 9:26 am

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 9:01 am
p-hyvo wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 8:30 am
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 8:02 am
Also, I would like to bring up the power of Fin with SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed.

What is his level? First and foremost, how steong is Fin in your opinion?

Would it be an overkill if he faced, in said form, Buu?

Like:

Fin (SSJ4 Gogeta absorbed) vs Super Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks, Piccolo, Ultimate Gohan, Super Vegito absorbed)

Note that all the absorbed individuals are from the Shadow Dragons arc, meaning Gotenks is an adult and Vegito is in his GT counterpart, Gohan has ultimate etc. )
Logically speaking, super buu can't absorb anyone from gt. They are too strong in comparison to him, they would annihilate him without giving him the time to even think about absorb them.anyway, ssj4 gogeta by himself would be stronger , not considering finn.

About finn, he blitzes the xeno patrollers so he has for sure a speed superior to infinite (xeno Goku and friends have infinite speed, they move in places without time). In the manga, finn with gogeta absorbed is currently going to face xeno gogeta ssj4 and, in the videogame, he's so strong he just oneshots everyone. So yeah, good question about finn.no one really knows until his showdown with xeno gogeta ssj4 is ended
So, even if Buu was capable of absorbing said individuals, it wouldn't matter, would it?

Although, I do question SSJ3 Gotenks' power since the Baby Saga, prior to Goku using UFP for the first time, where he stated that he and Gotenks wouldn't be enough. Was he just exaggerating? Baby was strong, but even if we say that Goten and Trunks in their SSJ are 10 times weaker than Super Goku, then Gotenks should be above their peak.

That said, Base Gotenks should be 1/5th of Super Goku's strentgh. Multiply that by 400 for SSJ3 and we get a ×8000 of Super Goten or Trunks (always having in mind that Super Saiyan in GT has a multiplier of 100× Base).

Wouldn't that power even compare to SSJ4 Goku? Not even the way Strongest Form 2 Baby Vegeta did?
Even if buu could absorb them, we would have as a result a buu who just has gt character's strength. Buu is so weak in comparison to them that his present wouldn't matter at all in the overall strength of the resulting buu.
About gotenks :
In baby saga, goten and trunks were a lot weaker that goku . Let's say about 50% of Goku imo (referring to the end of the saga, early baby saga goten is just like 5% Goku)
So, let's say (I'm using my numbers)

Goku 400
Ssj4 (x1600) 640'000
Goten 180
Gotenks (I have it at x200 goten in gt) 36'000
Ssj3 (gt Ssj is x2, not x50) 576'000
So, in my opinion, ssj3 baby saga Gotenks would be like x1,15 oozaru baby (who is 500'000 in this scale) could definitely have helped if he was there
And no, Ssj as x100 is completely ridiculous and no sense, lol. It is just x2 in gt, an higher multiplier would create enormous, unnecessary and nonexistent gaps between characters.
Just stop with that headcanon.
Ssj as x100 is directly taken from the eng dub of gt, right? That's just eng dub only crap, it isn't true.
remember fellas, anyone in gt after m2 >>>anyone in z (bog + rof excluded obv)

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