Has the Dub or original made you hate a character?

[caejones]

I'm sorry to those that love it, but I think that the whole "ALLY TO GOOD, NIGHTMARE TO YOU!" speech is the most ridiculous, unbelievable and poorly thought up ones in the entire dub. It's so out of touch with Goku's true character from his current emotions(thanks to his new transformation) to the wording that it plain irks me. Not to mention it's downright lame and cheesy to me. >>

Cheese aside, that "speech" is vaguely to my liking... now if it hadn't been used to completely alter Goku's character....

Freeza with King Cold's dub voice... I want to hear that! XD. Though it'd require that the dub King Cold VA can pull off the "Freeza gets pissed and loses his eloquence" moments...

Vegeta. Vegeta's dub voice is the only one that my just-turned-nine-yesterday cousi complained about when first hearing the Japanese version. "That doesn't sound like Vegeta at all!"
Sabat's Vegeta seems to embody the dub.
(Remember the clip played around commercial breaks on Toonami?
Krillin: Vegeta sounds like he has a bad case of hemeroids or something.
Vegeta: No!! D:
)

[Super Sonic]

Ahh, the old Toonami promos and commercial bumpers.

As for the whole "ally to good speech", yeah that's corny. Though the more accurate speech in the Budokai 1 story mode sounded pretty good.

[DemonKingPiccolo]

I agree with Super Sonic, of course I'm a fan of the original Budokai story mode anyway.

I hate Gohan in the dub, I don't think that either kid or adult VA was a good choice for him. I don't like the seiyuu for Vegeta, Sabat's good, but Drummond owns.
Schemmel's older voice for Goku is much better than his newer one, I think the newer one makes Goku sound creepy, especially when he re-dubbed season 2.

Kaio-sama (King Kai) - Damn he is so fucking annoying it makes me want to kill his VA with a spork.

Not surprising, Kaio-sama's VA is Schemmel, quite a few people don't know that.

[Chuquita]

I agree with Super Sonic, of course I'm a fan of the original Budokai story mode anyway.

I hate Gohan in the dub, I don't think that either kid or adult VA was a good choice for him. I don't like the seiyuu for Vegeta, Sabat's good, but Drummond owns.
Schemmel's older voice for Goku is much better than his newer one, I think the newer one makes Goku sound creepy, especially when he re-dubbed season 2.

Kaio-sama (King Kai) - Damn he is so fucking annoying it makes me want to kill his VA with a spork.

Not surprising, Kaio-sama's VA is Schemmel, quite a few people don't know that.

I didn't know he was Kaio-sama AND Bubbles in Funi's dub until someone told me some time last year.
(Now it makes me think of scenes in the dub when you have Vegeta, Piccolo, and Yamcha all talking to one another @_@ )


Creepy? Now I have to track down a clip of season 2's redub, I haven't seen it since it aired on CN and I forget how he sounded.

[The Time Traveller]

Ox-King, hyuck hyuck hyuck hyuck, Shut the fuck up you fat asshole!
But Gyumao is cool...

Chichi is a little better in the dub than I remember, but Naoko Watanabe is still the superior Chichi.

And Yamucha... First episode of the Trunks Saga, "Cat loves foooood! Yeah yeah yeah yeah!" I've only heard that 4 times in my life and I believe once more will kill me.

[Aremke]

I pretty much agree with all the remarks made regarding Funi's dub. Personally, I still love Ocean's voice cast. DBZ was painfully re-written, that much is obvious, but I really do feel many of the Ocean Group's cast hit their characters' *feel* for an English speaking audience.

I've seen quite a few fans of Ian Corlett's Goku and I agree- he was great. He had the right pitch for an English audience to warm up to, but also had a natural sounding light-heartedness. Mr. Schemmel's work just seems too... forced. I honestly feel like he would have to pop migraine pills constantly just from speaking normally, let alone the yelling.

Scott McNeil's Piccolo was good but a bit too gravelly for me at times. Brian Drummond was a great Vegeta with that hiss and power to his yell, regardless of how big a departure it was from the Japanese. I even liked Lalainia Lindbjerg as Bulma.

As for whether a certain dub/sub made me hate a character, that's a no, mostly because I knew what most of the characters should have been like beforehand. Most notable of all is (you were expecting something else from me?) : Yamcha.

I don't know Chris Sabat and I have nothing against him personally, but his Yamcha voice makes me want to punch kittens. It's not because it's not Toru Furuya or because of the Funi re-writes. It just *sounds* so freaking annoying. However, *pair* that with the Funi re-write of Yamcha as being a womanizing surfer wannabe instead of the polite, shy, occasionally hot-headed normal guy... Yeah, it bothers me.

I know I'm not the only one to notice this. I was reading a friend's blog awhile back where her boyfriend was being exposed to the Japanese VAs and script for the first time. He looks over at her straight-faced after awhile and goes "Wow... Why did they make Yamcha such a douche in the English version?"

In my opinion, Ted Cole was awesome as Yamcha. He hit the character perfectly. I like how Toru Furuya captures Yamcha's "everyman" mannerisms well enough, but Ted Cole had this suave/gruff feel to his tone that just sounded like a wolf, which is perfect.

[Graphic]

I absolutely could not stand Sean's King Kai. Half the time you can barely understand him and he sound's like an idiot, when actually Kaio-Sama is supposed to be one of the smarter characters. Why on earth did they ever think that his version was a good idea? The Ocean Dub's Kai wasn't exactly fitting but about a million times better. They should have let Sabat take on yet another voice instead of Sean. Anything would have been better.

I have my beefs with a few other voices including Frieza most of the small role characters and overall I can't stand Chi-Chi's character in general, but man did they make her a bitch. It is very annoying and I usually want to skip most of these scenes when watching in English.

I actually have grown to like Sabat's Later Vegeta and new re-dub voice, but he should have gone ahead and dubbed the whole series over. Now Vegeta still sounds like a whiny sob during his transformation era! I wanted the rough Vegeta, not the raspy! Eh oh well. They have messed up this series for so long I give up.

Oh and if you can, try to picture Majin Vegeta with Brian Drummond from Ocean's dub. That is just the absolute worst outcome for Vegeta, so I am glad it was changed.

[The Time Traveller]

In my opinion, Ted Cole was awesome as Yamcha. He hit the character perfectly. I like how Toru Furuya captures Yamcha's "everyman" mannerisms well enough, but Ted Cole had this suave/gruff feel to his tone that just sounded like a wolf, which is perfect.

Amuro Ray played Yamucha?!
Awesome.

I usually think Toru Furuya is dead, but I'm always thinking of Hirotaka Suzuoki(I always associate Ten with Yamucha) and Arihiro Hase (Hikaru Ichijyo in Macross, I think of Hikaru and Amuro as similar characters)

[LegendarySSJ7]

I hate Gohan in the dub, I don't think that either kid or adult VA was a good choice for him. I don't like the seiyuu for Vegeta, Sabat's good, but Drummond owns.
Schemmel's older voice for Goku is much better than his newer one, I think the newer one makes Goku sound creepy, especially when he re-dubbed season 2.

I thought all three interpretations of Gohan were great. Nadolny was good for the role in my eyes (when doing a Gohan post-Freeza Saga Arc) in that she made him sound meek, curious, and timid, and then ireful and vengeful. That's what he needs in my eyes. I also thought she was good as SSj2 Gohan with rich, building tones of anger that easily reverted to calmer, "regular" tones in a window of time, like the Seiyuu (but not with tones quite as a deep). Saffron Henderson was just as good as the younger Gohan, capturing the character with enough feminine tone to take over the younger aspects Nadolny was shooting for.

As for Vegeta, I feel the Seiyuu is the best choice for the character. Drummond was good in that he sounded sinister and hit high pitches well, but the original Seiyuu captured a much better range of consistent, fervent emotion that one would expect from the Prince of Saiyans. I didn't like Sabat's interpretation much, but the second I heard the Seiyuu everything I abhorred about the character was instantly gone from a vocal standpoint.

I think Schemmel is good, but not very accurate to the character. He certainly shines when his tone is emotional, though.

I hated intense, strained, female-sounding Young Freeza, but the Seiyuu was eerily good. Ryusei pulled off a condescending, complimenting, nihilistic, aloof, yet very imposing, deep tone at the same time, which was quite necessary for the character.

I'd say Young was about the worst, but I think it might have been more to the direction FUNimation had and dialogue limitations.

[Casual Matt]

I hated how dub King Cold's voice was much better suited for Freeza.

If Freeza had that dub voice there would be far less complaints about it. Afterall, it's the voice of a slightly effeminate man, not a scratchy sounding old woman.

Really? you'ed rather have Freeza sound like a 50 year old drag queen than a woman who smoked too much?

Honestly yes.

Don't get me wrong, it still probably would have been pretty bad, but at least a little more suiting. Then again, that isn't hard.

But at the same time, I can't even think of a voice that would be as good as Ryuusei Nakao's.

Actually, I bet Corey Burton could pull off a good Freeza voice.

Or even Brian Drummond, to be more realistic to what we could have gotten. (Think more of his smooth talking Jetstorm from Beast Machines than Vegeta.)

[Graphic]

I usually watch the dub now because I have seen most of DB in its original form and I get tired of always reading subs more than watching, however there are certain scenes that I always absolutely have to switch back to Japanese even after I just watched them in English.

i.e. Trunks' arrival, Gohan SSJ2, and especially the Majin Vegeta monologue. Anyone else find them self doing this?

[The Time Traveller]

I hated how dub King Cold's voice was much better suited for Freeza.

If Freeza had that dub voice there would be far less complaints about it. Afterall, it's the voice of a slightly effeminate man, not a scratchy sounding old woman.

Really? you'ed rather have Freeza sound like a 50 year old drag queen than a woman who smoked too much?

Honestly yes.

Don't get me wrong, it still probably would have been pretty bad, but at least a little more suiting. Then again, that isn't hard.

But at the same time, I can't even think of a voice that would be as good as Ryuusei Nakao's.

Actually, I bet Corey Burton could pull off a good Freeza voice.

Or even Brian Drummond, to be more realistic to what we could have gotten. (Think more of his smooth talking Jetstorm from Beast Machines than Vegeta.)

Would Freeza's race be Asexual? Since only males appear and they look like the gayest aliens, and they're quite power hungry and destructive, and have no genitals, Freeza's naked often enough. Or maybe his ultimate form hides his delicates from being kicked. Cold, Freeza and Koola could just be Asexual War mongers, Like the Bush Family.
And Nameks.

I just remember people talking about Freeza's mother, and that AF comic and all.

I'm talking gibberish about a race I don't even know the name of...

I have no opinions about the Freeza Dub voice, though when I was young I always assumed it was a lady alien, like some old granny sitting in her floating chair, straining her mind while trying to remember Dodoria's name. I was surprised to find out she was a he, in fact most of the time they said Lord Freeza I thought it was some sort of mistake, or though "Women can be lords in America maybe." Never made me think of Freeza as a guy... or hermaphrodite...

Then again, Sir Integra Hellsing. First time I saw the Hellsing cover I thought it was a guy, and it was confusing with people saying Sir and her sounding like a woman.

So in retrospect, Freeza's dub voice is good, since I now think of him as a he/she, or a they, or what ever...

But Freeza's race look girly (apart from Koola) and are powerful, Nameks look manly and strong but can barely fight, apart from the warriors who held their own for so long and of course Piccolo.

[Casual Matt]

Eh, as far as I'm concerned, Freeza's dub voice is simply terrible for that same reason. It confuses people dangit.

[Kunzait_83]

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[Jerseymilk]

Aremke: I have that same problem a little bit with Videl. It's not so much because the dub doesn't have Yuko Minaguchi, but just no one come close to her gentle, cute, and sweet voicework. That's the Videl I know. Not some pushy clone of dub Chi-Chi.

[Super Sonic]

I was surprised to find out she was a he, in fact most of the time they said Lord Freeza I thought it was some sort of mistake, or though "Women can be lords in America maybe." Never made me think of Freeza as a guy... or hermaphrodite...

The Lord Frieza part is what gave away that it was a man to me. Only time I've ever heard a woman called "Lord" was just Mukuro on YYH, and that was due to her face being covered and you not knowing it was a woman.

[omegacwa]

For some reason, I never thought Freeza was a women. I just always thought it was a gay guy. I mean Zarbon looks like a women too.

Drummond was really cool as Vegeta at the beginning, but if you watch later ocean dub episodes on youtube or wherever, it sounds really bad for some reason, also the music is just absurdly deplorable.

I personally think Sabat's Yamcha sounds very natural, well not at first of course. Yamcha was the only character Sabat did that I didn't realize was him at first.

[Super Sonic]

His Yamcha's much better in DB, than in DBZ.

[Carrie]

Going back and rereading volume one of the manga, I realize Bulma is the kind of girl I just love to hate. Her personality at the beginning comes across as so grating and annoying that I understand and appreciate Mr. Toriyama for taking her out of the picture for a while and let her grow up a little more off-screen.

[KinoFourpaws]

Goku. Sean Schemeal is so much better to Goku, as the Japanese is just terribble. Its clearly a girl, and the voice is so much worse. I do like some of the bad guys though in japanese, like Freeza. But, not babidi. Vegeta and Piccolo, yes.

Forgive me for being rude, but I just find it ironic that you still misspell the name of the voice actor whose version of Goku you prefer. Even if it was just a simple mistake.

Just saying. >_>;

... Anyway, to be on-topic, I don't recall there being a specific voice for a character that's made me really dislike him or her, at least not in this series. FUNi Chi-chi is a notably iffy one for me, though. A lot of the time she just sounds way too bitchy and angry for me to really like her. But, like Lemmy said, I think that comes more from the direction and the script that Mrs. Cranz had to work with when recording for her. I note a certain dub episode that aired a month or so back where Chi-chi was actually very pleasant throughout the whole thing. I liked that a lot. If the director (and maybe script) had given Mrs. Cranz the ability to portray her like that more often, she probably would have ended up much better liked by all the dub fans in general. If only, man... :/

Also:

Remember the clip played around commercial breaks on Toonami?
Krillin: Vegeta sounds like he has a bad case of hemeroids or something.
Vegeta: No!! D:

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