Dragon Ball Z "Composer" Shuky Levy accused of attempted murder by Sarah Brown

[Fionordequester]

What makes you think we aren't? I also feel like people are assuming we don't have experience with this issue simply because we don't agree.

I mean, I agree with your logic. Adolf Hitler is worse than Vic Mignogna, for obvious reasons.

It's also frustrating, when you're making what you think is a logical point, only for the emotional person to lash out and call you a "bigot", or some other awful name. My first instinct, when confronted with that, was to double down and keep arguing. I didn't want their emotions to tell me what was, and wasn't, right for me to say.

But... I accomplished nothing. Not only did I hurt them, but I also found they had a point after all. I found myself wishing they hadn't been so quick to resort to the name-calling... But that's all shit you can work out after a few days, anyway.

Do as you please, but...

EDIT: Look, here's what I mean. This is me totally screwing up, making the same mistakes I'm cautioning you against...

https://twitter.com/Terez27/status/1178 ... 32544?s=20

I mean, I was wrong about several of the key points I was arguing anyway (mainly about trans-women having a size & weight advantage over cis-women, therefore being able to rape them more effectively... when it's actually the opposite), but, this whole thing's still reminding me of that.

I hurt Kendamu pretty bad, at any rate. We made up, of course, but still...

[jelleline89]

There is no question that murder and sexual assault are heinous crimes and neither should go unpunished, but I do lean towards murder being a level above sexual assault simply because you are not only hurting someone's body but completely taking away their existence in the process. I am in no way trying to minimize the severities of sexual assault, but it's hard to put it above straight up murder. Sorry.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it turns out Shuki Levy stole the X-Men opening from an Hungarian show called Linda. Holy Shit!

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/09/marvel-s ... -hungarian

[mute_proxy]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it turns out Shuki Levy stole the X-Men opening from an Hungarian show called Linda. Holy Shit!

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/09/marvel-s ... -hungarian

Ron Wasserman composed the X-Men theme

[Fionordequester]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it turns out Shuki Levy stole the X-Men opening from an Hungarian show called Linda. Holy Shit!

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/09/marvel-s ... -hungarian

Eh... Are they that similar, though? I can hear the first part, but, the 2nd halves are pretty different. That, and the X-Men theme is significantly more intense, and high energy.

[KBABZ]

Well is Koji Kondo can get away with copying 60s jazz tunes...

[Cure Dragon 255]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it turns out Shuki Levy stole the X-Men opening from an Hungarian show called Linda. Holy Shit!

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/09/marvel-s ... -hungarian

Ron Wasserman composed the X-Men theme

I know he did. But I'm for the first time GLAD he stole the credit from Ron because now HE'S the one in trouble.

[Tian]

According to a Spanish news portal, this Zoltán Krisko guy alleged that some of the staff of Linda were involved in both the former and X-Men:

Mientras que la serie Linda disfrutó de su debut en el año 1984 en Hungría, la serie de los X-Men se estrenó un poco más tarde, en el año 1992. Tal y como asegura Krisko, hubo personal que trabajó en la serie de Marvel que estuvo vinculada igualmente a la serie policíaca ochentera, en base a las colaboraciones que existían por aquel entonces.

Translation:

While the Linda TV series enjoyed its debut in 1984 in Hungary, the X-Men TV series was premiered a little later, in 1992. And just as Krisko claims, there was staff that worked in the Marvel series that was also involved in the 80s cop tv series, due to the collaborations that existed back then.

De esta forma, la denuncia de Krisko acusa a Haim Saban de Saban Entertainment y a los compositores Ronald Wasserman y Shuki Levy de haber estado "en contacto" con los "profesionales húngaros" que trabajaban en la industria cinematográfica. A su vez, aseveran: "Conocían los exitosos trabajos animados en los estudios Pannonia en Hungría, donde solían encontrarse profesionales locales, como [el compositor] Gyorgy Vukan.

Translation:

In this way, Krisko's report accuses Saban Entertainment's Haim Saban and composers Ronald Wasserman and Shuki Levy of having been "in contact" with the "Hungarian professionals" who worked in the cinematographic industry. And in turn, he affirms "They knew the successful animated works in the Pannonia studios in Hungary, where they used to meet with local professionals, like [the composer] Gyorgy Vukan.

[WittyUsername]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it turns out Shuki Levy stole the X-Men opening from an Hungarian show called Linda. Holy Shit!

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/09/marvel-s ... -hungarian

I’m surprised it took this long for them to get in any kind of trouble with that theme. The X-Men theme also sounds similar to the Whitney Houston song I’m Your Baby Tonight and the Rod Stewart song Crazy About Her.

[Kokonoe]

I'm sure a lot of people would gladly choose death over rape. Death isn't the end all be all. Like dying with your dignity still intact is really preferable over being raped.

[ABED]

Death isn't the end all be all.

Being an atheist, I respectfully disagree. I have this life and only this life. As awful as rape is, and as long as it takes for someone to heal from that experience, as long as they are above ground, there's always a chance of healing and eventually finding happiness. There are fates worse than death, but those are extreme, like torture, debilitating illness, and incarceration where you might as well be dead.

Back to Sarah Brown's situation, is it a case of lack of proper enforcement of existing laws that allow crap like this to happen for so long or something else?

[DBZAOTA482]

With murder, suffering isn't promised.

Sexual assault or rape guarantees suffering... then the culprit might try and kill you anyways.

[JulieYBM]

Lovelies, listen. Don't. Just. Do. Not. It's not a competition, neither has to be worse than the other. There's no ranking system here. Both are terrible and that is all that matters.

[ABED]

I think you'd be surprised by people's ability to recover from trauma. A high school friend of mine was horribly beaten by his next door neighbor/bully. He had to be hospitalized with a cracked rib, needed dental work, his orbital bone was cracked, and his vision in his left eye is permanently damaged. He suffered from PTSD for a while and had to undergo psychotherapy, and yet after all that, he's healed and now has a family of his own. I'm sure there were moments he would've wanted to die, but he didn't take his own life and he's the better for it because he had the chance. I am in no way diminishing what trauma does to people (and their loved ones) but while there might not be suffering in death, it's permanent and the people they leave behind do suffer. I think that's something that gets lost here - the loved ones who deal with the aftermath.

I can't begin to imagine the horror Sarah dealt/deals with. I read a few previous comments she made about not having good memories of her time working for Saban, but this worse than I could've imagined.

[Valerius Dover]

Apparntly, a track from The Empire Strikes Back was copied and used in an old sci-fi anime called Ulysses 31. While Levy himself apparently didn't "compose" the track in question, he and the rest at Saban were definitely involved in the show.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it turns out Shuki Levy stole the X-Men opening from an Hungarian show called Linda. Holy Shit!

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/09/marvel-s ... -hungarian

Apparently, a track from The Empire Strikes Back was copied and used in an old sci-fi anime called Ulysses 31. While Levy himself apparently didn't "compose" the track in question, he and the rest at Saban were definitely involved in the show. This has long since been settled in court, however.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_3 ... fringement

[WittyUsername]

Apparently, a track from The Empire Strikes Back was copied and used in an old sci-fi anime called Ulysses 31. While Levy himself apparently didn't "compose" the track in question, he and the rest at Saban were definitely involved in the show. This has long since been settled in court, however.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_3 ... fringement

I’m not a musician, but I do have to wonder how it’s even possible to compose music without getting hit with accusations of plagiarism, whether it’s intentional or not. How is one supposed to compose copyright friendly music these days?

[DragonBallFoodie]

What in God's name? Is this real? He composed some of my favourite TV tunes (He-Man, Inspector Gadget, Mysterious Cities of Gold)!

People are full of surprises, both good and bad.

[Fionordequester]

Well, it's as the old saying goes...

"Good musicians copy. Great musicians steal."

[Ryuji-Otogi]

It's crazy how the people behind the English dub for Dragon Ball often turned out to be such disturbed individuals.

First we have Bruce Falconer the credit-stealing hack.

Then we have Sean Schemmel and his hilariously fragile ego.

Vic Mignogna and his fiendish ways.

Now the composer for the Ocean dub is supposedly an attempted murderer?!

What's next... Christopher Sabat being the leader of a sex cult?

Are we certain that Faulconer is really a “credit stealing hack”?I’m aware that a composer who worked on the DBZ dub posted on the FUNimation forums some years back and talked about this at some length, but aside from what he said, do we have any other evidence of this assertion? I understand that Faulconer was the lead guy and that other people worked under him and made music too, and that it would be disingenuous to suggest that Faulconer alone made all the soundtracks. But to say he’s a straight up credit stealing hack is a bit strong, isn’t it?

[Ryuji-Otogi]

What makes you think we aren't? I also feel like people are assuming we don't have experience with this issue simply because we don't agree.

I mean, I agree with your logic. Adolf Hitler is worse than Vic Mignogna, for obvious reasons.

It's also frustrating, when you're making what you think is a logical point, only for the emotional person to lash out and call you a "bigot", or some other awful name. My first instinct, when confronted with that, was to double down and keep arguing. I didn't want their emotions to tell me what was, and wasn't, right for me to say.

But... I accomplished nothing. Not only did I hurt them, but I also found they had a point after all. I found myself wishing they hadn't been so quick to resort to the name-calling... But that's all shit you can work out after a few days, anyway.

Do as you please, but...

EDIT: Look, here's what I mean. This is me totally screwing up, making the same mistakes I'm cautioning you against...

https://twitter.com/Terez27/status/1178 ... 32544?s=20

I mean, I was wrong about several of the key points I was arguing anyway (mainly about trans-women having a size & weight advantage over cis-women, therefore being able to rape them more effectively... when it's actually the opposite), but, this whole thing's still reminding me of that.

I hurt Kendamu pretty bad, at any rate. We made up, of course, but still...

Huh? Are you arguing that males don’t have a size and weight advantage over females? They definitely do. And yikes. It’s definitely reasonable to be against putting male and female inmates in the same prisons. I’m not even sure why that was brought up in this thread.