Beiga wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:34 am
Knowing even a little Japanese absolutely does help in distinguishing Goku and adult Gohan.
For one, Goku uses the informal pronoun "ora" while Gohan uses the mild-mannered "boku."
Goku is also pretty loose with using honorifics when talking about other people. He mostly skips them outside of Beerus (sama), Whis (san) and Kaio (sama) and most of his teachers outside of Kamesennin who he just calls "ji-chan" (gramps.)
Gohan, on the other hand, is very formal and uses at least "-san" for most everyone, up to and including his own wife!
But the inflection is also quite different, with Gohan often sounding far less sure of himself than Goku, which makes sense.
Exactly. It's those minor details that you can easily miss out on if you don't know a language that well if at all.
MasenkoHA wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:40 am
It’s also not unheard for shows to do this sort of thing?
And again Goku and Gohan sharing a voice actress as a kid is common with most dubs. Funimation ran with that three times (counting with Ocean) No clue why Scsigs is acting like this is some weird casting choice unique to the Japanese version.
You keep misunderstanding or not getting what I'm saying & misrepresenting my argument as a result.
Yes, they share a VA when they're kids. The difference between that & what the Japanese do is they don't keep the VA after when the characters react puberty, so it's not confusing who's who when both characters are on the screen talking at the exact same time when they're adults. You act as if there are dubs that do the same thing as the Japanese, when there's no other dub that does. Every dub outside of the Japanese one, unless there's an obscure dub somewhere out there where they did cast Goku, Gohan, & Goten with a female VA that also voiced them as kids, or that kept Trunks' VA the same when he was a kid from his teenaged self for some reason, or whatever else for other characters cursed with that. I'm not saying having Nozawa as Goku's kids when they're kids is the problem, just when they get older. Most kids sound exactly the same until they reach puberty, but after, you may get kids that sound similar to each other or their parents, but it's not an 100% match & it's rare that they even get that much close to it.
I don't mind if characters share a VA that does the same exact voice tone or close to the same voice tone if it makes logical sense & allows the actor to really flex their acting muscles, like if it's the same character from a different point int time, an alternate universe, or a clone of some sort. I described just this thing in an earlier post. I actually like her performance as Goku Black & her playing him makes sense in-universe. I just don't care for her playing almost every other male family member of his mostly because it doesn't make much sense & I don't usually hear much of a difference between them when they're grown up. The differences are subtle when they're adults. I just vastly prefer them separating them by having different VAs in the English dub as adults. If you don't mind it, that's cool. I'm just explaining my viewpoint. On a Dragon Ball forum focused mainly on fans of the Japanese version first, I think I'm in the right thread to do that now that I think about it.
To be frank, though, I just don't really care for Nozawa as Goku firstly. I respect her as the OG voice for him &, if you like her as the character, that's fine, but she's not my ideal Goku voice. I can put that aside if I watch clips of the sub, since I don't think she's that bad (& her Goku Black is fantastic, honestly), but I prefer other actors, sorry.
