TobyS wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:38 pm
What if, wanting insurance agains't Piccolo Jr. after Gokus very narrow win, Kami trained the humans like he did before the saiyans.
So lets say a kami trained Kuririn is there when Raditz shows up.
Scenario 2, lets say, butterfly effect wise, Yamcha is there too.
How does the Raditz fight go down differently?
If others die how does them being Kaio trained help?
Are there not enough people to hold off the saiyans for long enough? Or do they get stronger as well because they start that year of training already stronger? Does Goku perhaps having a sparring partner at Kaios help them both, and make them fly back to earth faster making up for their reduced forces? Or does no one die V Raditz and they are too weak for Vegeta? Maybe they remember the RoSaT?
Due to butterfly effect do they not mention the dragonballs and this changes Vegetas tactics? Or they don't mention them and Goku dies so they never come to earth?
What do you think?
I think the answer(s) largely depends on why the humans got so strong after just six months of training. As best I can see there are three in story possibilities
1)
They were more receptive to Kami's training.
2)
Having multiple rivals helped push the humans beyond their limits.
3)
Kami deliberately held Goku back.
Under possibility 1 and possibility 3 I don't know if a lot changes. Sure Goku and Krillin are much stronger but Raditz isn't stupid. If he pops out of his spacepod and picks up half a dozen battle powers near his own, he isn't about to charge them. We know he's willing to swallow his pride to gain an advantage. At the risk of falling of sounding too much like a fanfic writer, I think that situation Raditz would approach Goku and play up being his long lost brother. When the oppurtunity is right he'd try to kidnap Gohan, be caught by Goku, and the two would fight. Goku's kind nature would once again get the better of him, Raditz would get in a mortal shot but with the last of his strength Goku would kill Raditz. ChiChi (riding Kintoun because why does she keep using a car when there's a perfectly good magic cloud available) would comfort Gohan that Goku can be wished back and that would set in motion the rest of the Saiyan Arc. Maybe there's a fourth survivor because they'd be much closer to Nappa's level but Nappa would also be much less willing to fuck around and would go for kill shots from the get the go.
Under possibility 2 I do think a lot would change. Under the other two explanations the humans would hit a wall that they wouldn't know how to overcome. Kami would bring them to as powerful as he could make then and then the humans would see marginal gains from that point. But with the humans all pushing each other further and further just how far they can get becomes much more nebulous. Do they hit Nappa tier? Do they hit Kaio trained Goku tier? I honestly don't really know but I'm inclined to think that all that power would lead to headaches with Piccolo. From my reading of the character, what leads him away from the demonclan is just how quickly he eclipses everyone except Goku. With nothing else to do except plot Goku's death he has a lot of time to just think and go over his life. If he suddenly has to keep pace with these overwhelmingly potent humans, he'll never pause to think or grow resentful of the situation his father has put him in. It'll all get pushed aside as he looks for new ways to amass power. And maybe that leads to its own proper Piccolo War. But just as likely I think he discovers he likes to compete against the humans and Goku and begins to mellow out as Vegeta does in the real story.
What I am curious about tho is how often the PTO checks to see the average battle power of a planet. Is it a yearly thing? Is it automatic? Would Appule's third cousin get a red text box on his monitor alerting him to a high powerlevel appearing on Earth a world that according to their records should already have been purged of all sentient life? What's the protocol for that? Whatever it is, I'm positive it'd be at least as big a problem as the fight against Vegeta.
EDIT: Also also, when whatever task force the PTO sends to investigate Earth reports back that there's a Saiyan on Earth and that he's managed to breed with the locals, what happens to Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz? Sure they're completely innocent of treasonous action but nobody likes them anyway. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine someone like Dodoria being sent to kill them off. I'm also inclined to think they survive as Vegeta still has his fake moon thing which would easily put them ahead of whatever attack force is sent to kill them. Maybe they head to Earth afterwards to meet this lost Saiyan?
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