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shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:18 pm

hey guys ,

I had a couple of questions a long time, everytime they pop up. So now I'm making my on thread.

1. Who made the anime? Was it Akira Toriyama or did he only gave permission to special drawing teams?

2. How is DragonBall colored? Was it with pencel, with paint?

3.Are Cells pieces from the original film?How come some cells are weird colored?

4.How many copies of the original film are made and how much are they worth.

5. Is there any other ' Must-have-Item' in the Dragonball World I don't know about. I know you can have all : DVD's, Manga's and Daizenshuu's. These are THE REAL info/enterraining stuff. Is there anything else in the DB-world.

Well this is it for now, more will DEF come:P

Really happy this is out and looking forward to see the reply's.

Zank-u!!!!

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:24 pm

shotkeeper wrote:1. Who made the anime? Was it Akira Toriyama or did he only gave permission to special drawing teams?

TOEI animation studios created the anime. Toriyama helped with some designs and gave some input for filler material.

2. How is DragonBall colored? Was it with pencil, with paint?

Manga: Toriyama mostly used watercolors and markers for colored portions, I think. The anime was painted; t'was before the era of digital animation, for the most part.

3.Are Cels pieces from the original film?How come some cells are weird colored?

- Yes.
- Some of them are only partially colored, and most if not all of them are without the backgrounds. Sometimes the cel is for a zoomed-in shot, so it's not colored completely past a certain point.

4.How many copies of the original film are made and how much are they worth.

Don't really know. Someone else'll have to chime in on this.

5. Is there any other ' Must-have-Item' in the Dragonball World I don't know about. I know you can have all : DVD's, Manga's and Daizenshuu's. These are THE REAL info/enterraining stuff. Is there anything else in the DB-world.

I, personally, would value owning the entire manga in some format or another, whichever version you find most readable or of the best quality. Aside from that, there's animation cels and junk, I guess.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:35 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
shotkeeper wrote:1. Who made the anime? Was it Akira Toriyama or did he only gave permission to special drawing teams?
TOEI animation studios created the anime. Toriyama helped with some designs and gave some input for filler material.

2. How is DragonBall colored? Was it with pencil, with paint?
Manga: Toriyama mostly used watercolors and markers for colored portions, I think. The anime was painted; t'was before the era of digital animation, for the most part.

3.Are Cels pieces from the original film?How come some cells are weird colored?
- Yes.
- Some of them are only partially colored, and most if not all of them are without the backgrounds. Sometimes the cel is for a zoomed-in shot, so it's not colored completely past a certain point.

4.How many copies of the original film are made and how much are they worth.
Don't really know. Someone else'll have to chime in on this.

5. Is there any other ' Must-have-Item' in the Dragonball World I don't know about. I know you can have all : DVD's, Manga's and Daizenshuu's. These are THE REAL info/enterraining stuff. Is there anything else in the DB-world.
I, personally, would value owning the entire manga in some format or another, whichever version you find most readable or of the best quality. Aside from that, there's animation cels and junk, I guess.

I want to T T Tttt Thank you *cries*

Wow, so there isn't anything hidden In the DB-world. So wow Akira didn;t make anime after all. Wonder who did it.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:36 pm

shotkeeper wrote: 1. Who made the anime? Was it Akira Toriyama or did he only gave permission to special drawing teams?

The anime was produced by Toei Animation. They've produced a lot of anime adaptations of Shonen Jump manga, and are the ones who make One Piece now. I don't quite know how the system for picking which animation studios animate which Shonen Jump manga is conducted, but I don't think Toriyama personally picked Toei to do the anime.

2. How is DragonBall colored? Was it with pencel, with paint?

This is from the Toriyama interview in Daizenshuu 1, which I translated for Kanzentai:

Q: Next I'd like to ask you about color manuscripts: what do you use for coloring?
A: A color ink called "Ruma". A shoujo manga artist from a long time ago told me about it. Until then I had been using a water based color pen that came out squeakily and dissolved in water. This made covering a large area very tough. So when I used this color ink, it made me go "Ah, there's something this useful? Now I can get it wet and not squeak." (laughs)

For questions 3 and 4, this threadgoes into some discussion about cells, how their backgrounds are often changed when they're sold, and how much they cost.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:59 pm

How Animation Studios used to Work:

A bunch of under paid talented Asian men, sit in a horrible room with no ventilation smoking cigarettes and drinking heavily while drawing the same thing over and over again, frame by frame, hundreds of pictures to create just seconds of footage. Then after working there fingers to bone and attaining lung cancer and liver damage, the men move the pictures under a camera and take photos of each picture or "cell" placed over a backdrop. This is done over, and over. Then it is pieced together and put on film.
Tada, the animation is complete.
All these men are either now blind, or dead.

Alright, that was BS. But it is kinda true, and funny.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:28 pm

Hahah , TBH I thought this is how it really went. Don't know about the room and smoking, but Omg how many images/cells they needed to create. Damn I'm starting to like them instead of the mastermind. Wonder who they are, where they are. How they got used to each other. I really wonder why know one ever talks about this.

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:19 pm

Now I have a question about the animation: The reason the filler exist is so the the anime never catches up with the manga, or something to that effect, right? Now I heard that it sometimes takes six months to complete a 23 minute animated program. How long does it take for the typical manga and anime to be producers? Cuz it seems that a manga should be quicker to be make than a an anime.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:37 pm

The manga was published on a weekly basis, so it naturally took Toriyama and his assistant roughly a week to produce a chapter.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:41 pm

Ah, the days before digitala nimation - in a time when flash wasn't considered high-quality *cough*LazloMuchaLucahandallotherpopularshowstoday*cough*

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:58 am

omegacwa wrote:How Animation Studios used to Work:
A bunch of under paid talented Asian men, sit in a horrible room with no ventilation smoking cigarettes and drinking heavily while drawing the same thing over and over again, frame by frame, hundreds of pictures to create just seconds of footage. Then after working there fingers to bone and attaining lung cancer and liver damage, the men move the pictures under a camera and take photos of each picture or "cell" placed over a backdrop. This is done over, and over. Then it is pieced together and put on film.
Tada, the animation is complete.
All these men are either now blind, or dead.
Alright, that was BS. But it is kinda true, and funny.

I spend a lot of time with other animation students, and we spend a lot of time living in dark holes with just our lightboxes to see, doing horrible caricature doodles to save our sanity between endlessly drawing flour sacks doing things like walk or look for their parents, and occasionally rise from what we've affectionately termed "the pit" to brave the human world for food.

If smoking and drinking were allowed in the building, I can see that happening too. So you're really not that far off.

Thanks for making me laugh. That was fantastic ^^

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:22 pm

I have another questions guys. The Manga is ment to be read from left to right , right

? Then in the English version. Is it still from left to right or did they do the mirror effect thing. So that it would be read from left ro right.

THanks

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:30 pm

shotkeeper wrote:I have another questions guys. The Manga is ment to be read from left to right , right ? Then in the English version. Is it still from left to right or did they do the mirror effect thing. So that it would be read from left ro right.

THanks

In Viz's Shonen Jump line, the Dragonball Manga is right to left.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:34 pm

Ok Thanks

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:31 pm

shotkeeper wrote:I have another questions guys. The Manga is ment to be read from left to right , right ? Then in the English version. Is it still from left to right or did they do the mirror effect thing. So that it would be read from left ro right.

THanks

The manga is read from right to left. It's not flipped by Viz.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:03 pm

Is only the Jump line not flipped or are all versions not flipped. Means There is Absolutely no release wich is flipped.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:10 pm

shotkeeper wrote:Is only the Jump line not flipped or are all versions not flipped. Means There is Absolutely no release wich is flipped.

The Pre-Shonen Jump releases from Viz were flipped from what I understand.

Post by **Herms** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:12 pm

Raki wrote:
shotkeeper wrote:Is only the Jump line not flipped or are all versions not flipped. Means There is Absolutely no release wich is flipped.
The Pre-Shonen Jump releases from Viz were flipped from what I understand.

Maybe in the monthly comic book format, but I don't believe that any edition of Viz's Dragon Ball graphic novels have been flipped. I own all of the old big editions, and none of those were flipped.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:27 pm

bkev wrote:Ah, the days before digitala nimation - in a time when flash wasn't considered high-quality *cough*LazloMuchaLucahandallotherpopularshowstoday*cough*

...

In what alternate universe is Mucha Lucha popular? O_o

Flash isn't that bad for a cheap cartoon. I know for a fact that a show like Kappa Mikey wouldn't have ever been made without flash animation.

Oh, and Avatar is still traditionally animated, and I think other popular shows like Spongebob are too. Not sure about Fairly Oddparents. What else is popular nowadays?

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:54 pm

Herms wrote:
Raki wrote:
shotkeeper wrote:Is only the Jump line not flipped or are all versions not flipped. Means There is Absolutely no release wich is flipped.
The Pre-Shonen Jump releases from Viz were flipped from what I understand.
Maybe in the monthly comic book format, but I don't believe that any edition of Viz's Dragon Ball graphic novels have been flipped. I own all of the old big editions, and none of those were flipped.

Al right, so I get it. Only a few were flipped. That's good to hear. Now I'm waiting for the VIZBIG. I have great expectations. I hope they get as good as the Kanzenban. Welll one is sure they can't compete the Kanzenban cover haha.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:43 pm

Here we go again, This popped up in my head: So I understand Ocean dub group was hired by Funimation but it was only till a certain point. After that Funimation went Solo. Then I want to ask: How come I can still see video's of Ocean at the Cell Saga and even GT. What's up with that.

Thanks again,

Lovely Members:p

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