Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

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Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by theherodjl » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:10 am

Had Beerus remained asleep until several months after Super Yi Xing Long/Omega Shenron's defeat, how would things have gone down? There's no SSJG in GT's timeline so would Beerus have reason to seek out Goku or visit Earth? Would the Z Senshi maybe consider Beerus to be another universal threat and try and take him on? How much better might FPSSJ4 Goku & "That's my Bulma!!!" SSJ4 Vegeta fare than their main timeline counterparts did in BOG?
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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by TobyS » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:25 am

theherodjl wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:10 am Had Beerus remained asleep until several months after Super Yi Xing Long/Omega Shenron's defeat, how would things have gone down? There's no SSJG in GT's timeline so would Beerus have reason to seek out Goku or visit Earth? Would the Z Senshi maybe consider Beerus to be another universal threat and try and take him on? How much better might FPSSJ4 Goku & "That's my Bulma!!!" SSJ4 Vegeta fare than their main timeline counterparts did in BOG?
We don't know there is no SSG in GT, whenever Goku got powered up in GT it was only by 4 saiyans not 5 (and no golden aura on pan)
If Beerus comes back after after Goku is gone there are still enough Saiyans to do the ritual. No Buu to piss him off with eating pudding.

So Beerus is probably willing to wait longer, even for a 0-1 days in the HTC to train Bra and Pan to become SSJ's (if they even need to and they probably don't.

God is a higher multiplier than SS4 or pre god SS1-3 Fusion (Goku choses God over Vegito, and doesn't power down and fuse instead or even think about it instead/after it wears off a bit) and at least one Guidbook reckons Vegito SS1 = SS4 also, plus feats put God as better, universe busting punches. It's not till Omega the universe is threatened and even then it's more due to the nature of negative Ki rather than the overall amount.

Important to note is GT characters are way overpowered compared to their BoG counterparts in the same form. So if Vegeta gets God he's stronger than BoG God Goku by a good bit. Also could it stack with SS4? Potentially! Goku in BoG needs ss1 to beat Freeza whereas Trunks one shots #19 of the top of my head.

In order of events and likelihood. If Beerus isn't pissed off by Buu he might have a lower bar for what he considers a good fight as well.

1. Basically Beerus is placated by food.
2. Beerus is placated by fighting SSG Vegeta/Gohan.
3. Beerus is placated by fighting SSG Gohan and SS4 Vegeta.
3. Beerus is placated by fighting SS4 Veghan fusion and/or SS3 Gotenks.
4. Beerus is placated by fighting SS3 Veghan and/or SS3 Gotenks

If Goku can come back somehow, Gogeta SS4 or Gogeta God or God Goku at least placate him.

As for which ones can win? Probably only SSGod Gogeta/Veghan have a shot. Beerus was a long way above God Goku, and the fusion multiplier is the only thing close to god tier. So it'd take both with stronger bases to have a shot.
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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by Peach » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:51 pm

I don't think anything would happen after battle of gods.

Frieza has already been resurrected essentially and didn't seem to give a damn about training when he was.

Goku and Vegeta in GT are completely different characters. Vegeta is a retied family man The dude grows a mustache takes his daughter shopping. Goku is much more serious than he is in super and actually cares about the fate of the universe. There is no reason for Goku and Vegeta to go train with Whis and no way Goku is arrogant enough to to ask for a tournament of power.

Goku and Vegeta are old men with different priorities. Neither of them care that much about getting more power for fun.

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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by Tai Lung » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:11 am

Peach wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:51 pm I don't think anything would happen after battle of gods.

Frieza has already been resurrected essentially and didn't seem to give a damn about training when he was.

Goku and Vegeta in GT are completely different characters. Vegeta is a retied family man The dude grows a mustache takes his daughter shopping. Goku is much more serious than he is in super and actually cares about the fate of the universe. There is no reason for Goku and Vegeta to go train with Whis and no way Goku is arrogant enough to to ask for a tournament of power.

Goku and Vegeta are old men with different priorities. Neither of them care that much about getting more power for fun.
goku wastes time fighting with rildo and other characters because he finds it entertaining
any goku cares about the universe
vegeta was determined to catch up to goku after super 17 arc
vegeta surely but it does not seem to be the case of goku .. he simply has no opponents to overcome

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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by SSJgogeto » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:16 pm

Without the profecy of SS God, Beerus probably wouldn't mess with the Earth.

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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by blacksymbiote » Wed May 20, 2020 2:53 pm

Maybe we'd get SSJ5 instead. Just a little rewriting and it can be the big scary power Beerus is seeking.

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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by Melee_Sovereign » Wed May 20, 2020 4:21 pm

GT is non-canon.

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Re: Suppose Beerus Didn't Awake Until After GT?

Post by Almighty Majin » Wed May 20, 2020 9:30 pm

If Beerus woke up after GT he would find out that Goku isn't in this realm anymore as he left with Shenron. Vegeta would put up a decent fight as a SSJ4 and even more so if he attains that rage boost. Vegeta would be the one to achieve SSJG and then probably stack the boost fro the ritual with SSJ4 to give Beerus the best fight of his life. I'm not sure if Vegeta goes off to train with Whis considering that he would have no one else to surpass, but it is possible he does the training out of curiosity of the god power.

I don't think anyone gets resurrected unless Freeza's Army find New Namek in this continuity with all the extra time they have to find it and maybe they revive Freeza who then requests that Cell gets revived as well and hell let's get Bebi revived for the third wish. Then they all train and invade Earth and Vegeta has to deal with the three of them with his God Ki SSJ4. Maybe he even convinces Gohan to train with him because of Goku not being around, but not too sure on that happening either. It's a fun scenario to think about though.

The tournaments could most likely have similar results as in Super and as for Zamasu, he's most likely completed his Supreme Kai training and has moved past the whole zero mortals plan thing. Otherwise, we get Vegeta Black with SSJ4 Rose and an older Future Zamasu.

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