A few questions about Raditz

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A few questions about Raditz

Post by dragondyle » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:03 pm

#1) Is Raditz really Goku's brother?
#2) Why wasn't he mentioned in the Bardock special?
#3) How come he is the only blood relative of Goku not voiced by Masako Nozawa?
#4) Am I the only one who likes his Funimation dub voice?
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Re: A few questions about Raditz

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dragondyle wrote:#1) Is Raditz really Goku's brother?
Yes. He really, truly is, seriously speaking. Goku's good mother must not've given him enough spankings when he was a kid.
dragondyle wrote:#2) Why wasn't he mentioned in the Bardock special?
Nobody knows. But apparently, as mentioned in DBZ's second episode, he was off-planet pirating during the destruction.
dragondyle wrote:#3) How come he is the only blood relative of Goku not voiced by Masako Nozawa?
Good question. Maybe because he's the only one who looks nothing like him, never-mind dub Bulma's "Goku, he looks, like you!". Aside from varying different traits, all other male relatives of Goku's look exactly like him. In Tullece's case, he's simply one of the limited amounts of low level Saiyan that shares Kakarrot's traits (I guess means they're distant cousins?). The fact he's voiced by Ms. Nozawa further strengthens the notion that this is how Kakarrot would've ended up had he not gotten that bump on his head and been raised by a kind-yet-wonky old man.
dragondyle wrote:#4) Am I the only one who likes his Funimation dub voice?
Not the only one. I like it too.
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Post by laserkid » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:41 pm

Your questions were answered, but what made you think Raditz might NOT be Goku's brother?
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:44 pm

Raditz does look like him, face-wise. I think his being voiced by someone else was just to illustrate how different they were.

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Post by Kaboom » Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:20 pm

Raditz probably takes after their mom. Apparently, it's always the second son who takes after his dad in Bardock's family.
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Post by dragondyle » Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:43 pm

laserkid wrote:Your questions were answered, but what made you think Raditz might NOT be Goku's brother?
Raditz and Goku are just so totally different. If I didn't know any better, I would say that Tullece was Goku's brother.
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Re: A few questions about Raditz

Post by Onikage725 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:07 pm

dragondyle wrote:Why wasn't he mentioned in the Bardock special?
Not sure. Maybe because he was grown and independent. Also, Bardock had visions of Freeza's battle with Goku. Raditz wasn't that significant. You'd think his sons coming to blows might have been a worthy vision though. Then again, do they say he's Bardock's? Is it possible he's a half brother with a different father?

Ya know, one thing not many dub fans know I've noticed. When Freeza regards Gohan in the dub he is puzzled that he can't figure out where the kid came from. However, in the subs he actually does mention that the kid kinda resembles Raditz, and even surmises that he may be Raditz's kid (slightly off, but always thought it was a good guess). He doesn't seem to relate Raditz to Bardock at all though (though he does for Goku, obviously).
Am I the only one who likes his Funimation dub voice?
Nope. Justin Cook rocks. I just wish he didn't have to follow that lame script from the initial dub.
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Re: A few questions about Raditz

Post by dragondyle » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:22 am

Onikage725 wrote: Then again, do they say he's Bardock's? Is it possible he's a half brother with a different father?
You know, I haven't really thought of it that way.

Onikage725 wrote: Nope. Justin Cook rocks. I just wish he didn't have to follow that lame script from the initial dub.
True. I agree. But he did really nail some of his lines though and I think Justin Cook is one of Funimation's best actors.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:33 am

Raditz says Goku looks like their father, I believe. So Burdock is his dad.

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Post by Herms » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:42 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Raditz says Goku looks like their father, I believe. So Burdock is his dad.
Are you sure? I seem to remember that he says "You look just like your father" (I hate being away from my manga; I can never check anything). Anyway, every guidebook ever identifies him simply as "Goku's older brother" with no caveats, and all of the family trees always have him as Burdock's child.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:17 am

In that specific quote, he's vague in the Japanese text. (For those who can't read Japanese, he's literally saying "You look like father." There is no pronoun whatsoever (be it "your" father, "our" father, "my" father, etc.))

I would assume Toriyama had him be vague because Raditz doesn't reveal the fact that he's Goku's brother until the next chapter; saying "You look just like our father" would kind of spoil that.

However, this next line is straight to the point: "Even our father and mother [were destroyed]."

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Re: A few questions about Raditz

Post by vicdmx » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:28 am

dragondyle wrote:#1) Is Raditz really Goku's brother?
#2) Why wasn't he mentioned in the Bardock special?
#3) How come he is the only blood relative of Goku not voiced by Masako Nozawa?
#4) Am I the only one who likes his Funimation dub voice?
1) Yes he really is Goku´s brother.

2)He was not mentioned but he did apper in a scene.

3)Don´t know.

4)Umm.. his dub voice is pretty fine for me.
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Re: A few questions about Raditz

Post by Herms » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:17 am

vicdmx wrote:2)He was not mentioned but he did apper in a scene.
He was? I've never heard that before and I don't remember anything like that myself. What scene was this in?
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:19 am

The only part of the movie I can think of that he might have been in was the still image shown at the end of the credits, which shows Freeza and a group of Saiyans. I doubt he was really in the movie, though.

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Post by Captain Awesome » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:20 am

There was no "scene" with Raditz in the Bardock special.

Hence the reason everyone wonders where the hell he was during that time.

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Post by vicdmx » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:06 am

Captain Awesome wrote:There was no "scene" with Raditz in the Bardock special.

Hence the reason everyone wonders where the hell he was during that time.
I think I saw him in the ending credits at the end of the movie.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:23 am

vicdmx wrote:I think I saw him in the ending credits at the end of the movie.
Are you talking about Raditz in the first DBZ TV Special? No, you didn't. He's not there.

Even over top "Hikari no Tabi", the scenes shown in the upper-left go straight from Goku using the Chou-Kamehameha on Ma Junior to Goku nailing Nappa in the gut.
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Post by Raki » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:29 am

Being as Toriyama forgot about many of his characters, maybe Toei forgot about Raditz.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:32 am

Raki wrote:Being as Toriyama forgot about many of his characters, maybe Toei forgot about Raditz.
Nah. He showed up again in some Freeza arc filler material where Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz are dealing with Freeza and talking about some rebellion and stuffage. Think it's circa episode 100.
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Re: A few questions about Raditz

Post by Conan the SSJ » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:52 am

Onikage725 wrote:Is it possible he's a half brother with a different father?
No, Kakarrot and Raditz are full-blooded brothers. For one, in the Japanese version of episode 2, I believe Simmons' subs specifically have Raditz say "You look exactly like Father". Further more, when he's describing Planet Vegeta, "our mother and father were both killed along with everyone else". It's nifty to have dialogue exchanges in the Ps2 games also, where it's bluntly acknowledged, such as in Budokai 3 after Raditz defeats Bardock in a duel, "Father...!"

For what it's worth, Raditz does have his father's skin tone and scouter color. In comparison to Bra, whom looks nothing like Vegeta ;p
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