I feel like the slow pacing for DBZ in the anime and filler works to its advantage

[JulieYBM]

That or Galactic Patrol Undercover Agents Erasa and Sharpner, on the hunt for Majin Buu and Babidi.

[precita]

At the time the early eps of the Boo saga was animated the manga wasn't finished yet, so I guess Toei assumed Gohan would go back to High School after Boo was finished with and the series would go on from there.

[ABED]

That's a spin off and of all the characters - them? What is it about them you find so interesting?

[JulieYBM]

That's a spin off and of all the characters - them? What is it about them you find so interesting?

Bimbos and jocks are cute and seeing Sharpner get owned as gags while Erasa is cute and capable would be fun. It's a fun character dynamic because Sharpner is so sure of himself and Erasa has a sort of overwhelming attitude to her in her cuteness. Sharpner would try to solve problems with his self-assured confidence and strength but fail while Erasa would either solve the issue with charm or with reasoning. It's a fun dynamic.

Also, I want to see Sharpner getting owned. More and more. With good animation.

[ABED]

That's a spin off and of all the characters - them? What is it about them you find so interesting?

Bimbos and jocks are cute and seeing Sharpner get owned as gags while Erasa is cute and capable would be fun. It's a fun character dynamic because Sharpner is so sure of himself and Erasa has a sort of overwhelming attitude to her in her cuteness. Sharpner would try to solve problems with his self-assured confidence and strength but fail while Erasa would either solve the issue with charm or with reasoning. It's a fun dynamic.

Also, I want to see Sharpner getting owned. More and more. With good animation.

This is DB we're talking about, not Saved By the Bell

[JulieYBM]

That's a spin off and of all the characters - them? What is it about them you find so interesting?

Bimbos and jocks are cute and seeing Sharpner get owned as gags while Erasa is cute and capable would be fun. It's a fun character dynamic because Sharpner is so sure of himself and Erasa has a sort of overwhelming attitude to her in her cuteness. Sharpner would try to solve problems with his self-assured confidence and strength but fail while Erasa would either solve the issue with charm or with reasoning. It's a fun dynamic.

Also, I want to see Sharpner getting owned. More and more. With good animation.

This is DB we're talking about, not Saved By the Bell

Yeah, Dragon Ball with it's high school gag scenes, orphans fighting cops and cat men who go around eating delicacies with their gay live-in life-partner.

Like, you asked a question, you got an answer and clearly it's possible to fucking combine genres into a single show and do more than one type of scene.

[ABED]

Bimbos and jocks are cute and seeing Sharpner get owned as gags while Erasa is cute and capable would be fun. It's a fun character dynamic because Sharpner is so sure of himself and Erasa has a sort of overwhelming attitude to her in her cuteness. Sharpner would try to solve problems with his self-assured confidence and strength but fail while Erasa would either solve the issue with charm or with reasoning. It's a fun dynamic.

Also, I want to see Sharpner getting owned. More and more. With good animation.

This is DB we're talking about, not Saved By the Bell

Yeah, Dragon Ball with it's high school gag scenes, orphans fighting cops and cat men who go around eating delicacies with their gay live-in life-partner.

Like, you asked a question, you got an answer and clearly it's possible to fucking combine genres into a single show and do more than one type of scene.

You all don't understand Toriyama didn't just mash genres, he filtered through a martial arts story. He didn't turn it into a damn teen sitcom. You aren't talking about scenes, you're talking about an entirely different show.

Orphans fighting cops?

[MyVisionity]

The problem is we don't get a chance to see what would have become of Sharpner and Erasa, because Toriyama switched gears. Had the story continued following Gohan's exploits then we could have seen their potential be realized.

As friends of Gohan and Videl, Sharpner and Erasa potentially become part of a new supporting cast. Besides general high school adventures, they can be involved in some of the higher stakes stories as well. Being civilians, they can serve as the Dragon Team's ears to the ground. They can assist with any detective work that becomes necessary during times of crisis. Or help out at Capsule Corp/assist Mr. Satan etc.

Or maybe Sharpner/Erasa go from ordinary to extraordinary. An accident leads to life-saving measures that involve bionics or exoskeletons or something. One of their parents turns out to be an alien. The possibilities are endless.

what you’re talking about is a spin-off

Not a spinoff, but the actual show. This would all be interwoven into the main series. Even if it only happens in the background in support of the main plot and cast.

Dragon Ball wouldn't have to become Saved By the Bell or Happy Days, but it's okay to bring in those genres if they wanted. It would still be filtered in.

[ABED]

The problem is we don't get a chance to see what would have become of Sharpner and Erasa, because Toriyama switched gears. Had the story continued following Gohan's exploits then we could have seen their potential be realized.

As friends of Gohan and Videl, Sharpner and Erasa potentially become part of a new supporting cast. Besides general high school adventures, they can be involved in some of the higher stakes stories as well. Being civilians, they can serve as the Dragon Team's ears to the ground. They can assist with any detective work that becomes necessary during times of crisis. Or help out at Capsule Corp/assist Mr. Satan etc.

Or maybe Sharpner/Erasa go from ordinary to extraordinary. An accident leads to life-saving measures that involve bionics or exoskeletons or something. One of their parents turns out to be an alien. The possibilities are endless.

what you’re talking about is a spin-off

Not a spinoff, but the actual show. This would all be interwoven into the main series. Even if it only happens in the background in support of the main plot and cast.

Dragon Ball wouldn't have to become Saved By the Bell or Happy Days, but it's okay to bring in those genres if they wanted. It would still be filtered in.

But why them? This sounds ridiculously boring. Besides, DB already has so many underutilized characters like Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and even Chaozu, but you want them to use bland side characters? This seems like it would take up a ton of screen time and if there's one thing the Buu arc doesn't need, it's more episodes.

The possibilities aren't endless. There are limits to how interesting you can make these two characters.

Dragon Team's ears to the ground? They aren't really a team, and this isn't Sherlock Holmes. The crises you're talking about now involve literal gods.

[JulieYBM]

Because this is the path the discussion went down.

Stop asking "but why?!!?!?!?!?!?!?" When you get an answer to questions that already explain why. For fun! We're shooting the shit, tossing out ideas for scenes we'd lile to see in a thirty fucking year old cartoon, calm the fuck down and have fun. You're literally doing nothing but wasting your time and making other people miserable while they spitball ideas they think would be interesting. There are no hard rules to Dragon Ball. There's no sense of elitism about ideas that we all need to follow. Fuck the proverbial cops.

Bah, fuck this. Off to play L4D2 I go.

[ABED]

Because this is the path the discussion went down.

Stop asking "but why?!!?!?!?!?!?!?" When you get an answer to questions that already explain why. For fun! We're shooting the shit, tossing out ideas for scenes we'd lile to see in a thirty fucking year old cartoon, calm the fuck down and have fun. You're literally doing nothing but wasting your time and making other people miserable while they spitball ideas they think would be interesting. There are no hard rules to Dragon Ball. There's no sense of elitism about ideas that we all need to follow. Fuck the proverbial cops.

Bah, fuck this. Off to play L4D2 I go.

Um... I am calm and there's always a deeper reason. If I am making you miserable by asking a simple question, then maybe you should calm down. What is is about Sharpner and Erasa of all characters you all seem to find so interesting? I haven't seen anyone say anything other than vague adjectives like "potential" and then this whole digression where it seems you like your ideas of what to do with them more than you actually like them.

If you want to have fun talking about this, make another thread about these two nothing characters or write some fanfic. This is supposed to be about pacing and somehow managed to be about how the two most random and insignificant characters should be parts of the ensemble. And none of you even answered "why them?"

Fuck the proverbial cops? What the hell are you talking about? Good lord.

There are rules to DB. It's a martial arts show, that's a big thing that makes it dragon ball and not Boy Meets World.

[MyVisionity]

But why them? This sounds ridiculously boring. Besides, DB already has so many underutilized characters like Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and even Chaozu, but you want them to use bland side characters? This seems like it would take up a ton of screen time and if there's one thing the Buu arc doesn't need, it's more episodes.

Since Tenshinhan had been written out of the series and Yamcha was retired, Sharpner and Erasa would have filled out the cast. That's what often happens when cast members leave or step back. Plus inject some new energy into the series. Why them, because of their connection to Gohan. If Gohan had taken the lead then those characters were positioned to be developed further.

Being that they are ordinary civilians, they can do things that the others cannot. It pays to have friends in low places. But as I said, they could also become extra-ordinary.

I don't think it would necessarily take up too many episodes, maybe one here or there, or the occasional subplot.

As far as the modern revival goes, you could still go those routes with them, or if not then at least have them recur as having been married and living next door to Gohan/Videl and they get involved in episodes with them occasionally etc.

[ABED]

The cast didn't need filling out. It's already pretty damn big. If anything, it could use some contracting. What did you see from these two that you find so interesting?

That's what often happens when cast members leave or step back.

There's already Goten, Trunks, and Videl. This isn't like That 70s show. It's a comic and an animated series. Characters don't have to leave the story.

Being that they are ordinary civilians, they can do things that the others cannot.

You keep talking in such vague terms. What can they do that others can't by virtue of being normal human?

Even if Gohan were going to be the hero, no way they stay parts of the cast. That was always going to be true. They didn't add anything to the Buu arc because they can't. They're side characters that just served to populate Gohan's high school and that's it.

To try and bring it back to pacing, adding even more members, especially boring ones that are easily excised only serves to make an overly long arc even longer. Things like the fight between Goku and Majin Vegeta needed fleshing out, but Gohan's high school hijinks didn't. There were no stakes and the premise ran its course pretty quickly.