Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

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Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by HulkTySSJ4 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:55 pm

Do you guys think when Pan has aged, and learned Super Saiyan 1 (properly), they'll decide to perform the God Ritual on ALL the remaining Saiyans?

Many have wondered why they haven't just done it already, but Pan being a baby now means she wouldn't know what to do. Broly is off planet, and it's too soon be asking strange favors. The U6 Saiyans would probably like to try helping, but...are in another universe...
So, we're still off by one Saiyan.

Something tells me they won't even consider doing the ritual again until Pan is old enough to talk well.
BUT... there's still the whole deal about Vegeta unlocking Red God without the ritual, off screen/panel...
Does this mean simply being around Divine Beings is enough to learn it? That would make sense with Toei's "Super Saiyan Rage" Trunks, since it's a weird SS2+SSB hybrid...

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by precita » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:03 pm

I don't think Gohan or Trunks/Goten will ever get God forms, they didn't even do it with Future Trunks either. I think they just want the other Saiyans to stick with their previous forms and that's probably the reason Gohan never got Blue.

Trunks and Goten will probably stay as Super Saiyan 1's forever with Gotenks sticking with 3, and Gohan as Ultimate. If they wanted to give them all God forms they would have done it by now.

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by theherodjl » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:08 pm

They'd only do that if there was some crisis that involved a plethora of Godly Saiyans being needed to save the day. In the end, it would probably be better that they all improve in their own unique ways(like Gohan) as the God forms are not such an amazing thing anymore. They might be superior in power to the golden SSJ forms but that's really the only benefit to them at this point. As the debacle with Moro and the ToP has shown, simply using methods of gaining plain ol' fighting strength will ultimately fail against the unknown.
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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by Jack Bz » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:39 pm

If they didn't do it after battle of gods, they probably won't do it ever.

Not doing the god ritual for everyone (in universe) was a confusing choice. Even if it's because Toriyama/etc didn't want to make everyone be so strong, they had a perfect narrative excuse: absorbing the power of super saiyan god once the time limit is over is hard and Goku managing it was a testament to his skill.

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by precita » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:50 pm

Gohan was out of fighting shape for most of Super until the Tournament of Power, so it kinda makes sense why they didn't do it with him. And Trunks/Goten are seen as too young and reckless.

As for if they would ever do it with Gohan in the future, I still think not. They seem to want his Ultimate form from the Boo arc to be his main fighting form, so it probably won't happen.

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by DevilKing99 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:52 am

If they don't even care about Goten or Trunks they definitely don't care about Pan.

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by Brettjr25 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:28 am

I don't think we'll ever see the ritual again. Especially since it's been established that you can achieve SSG without it. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Vegeta get SSG just from training with Whis?

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by Kagari » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:53 pm

precita wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:50 pm Gohan was out of fighting shape for most of Super until the Tournament of Power, so it kinda makes sense why they didn't do it with him. And Trunks/Goten are seen as too young and reckless.

As for if they would ever do it with Gohan in the future, I still think not. They seem to want his Ultimate form from the Boo arc to be his main fighting form, so it probably won't happen.
Gohan doesn't need SSG when his Ultimate form is stronger and simply better than it.

The kids probably won't get it either though outside of Heroes.

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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by TobyS » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:35 am

There big problem is this:
1. They want Goku and Vegeta to be the main characters.
2. They have established that hybrids still have more potential.
3. They have dodged this problem by having Gohan say he wants to progress his ultimate form instead for no really explained reason, so they basically can just not have Gohan train slowly up to that level untill after whatever time period all of Supers stories take place in avoiding him surpassing at less UI less vegeta. For the kids they just have them slack or be left out to have normal childhoods and that's probably why they won't age them much.
4. For Pan she could on the basis quarter saiyan makes her have less potential then Goku but then they'd have to explain why they gave it to her and not the others so they won't.

They might do something with Xeno pan and Goten but not the normal ones.
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Re: Do You Think? Pan/Age/SSG/Future

Post by Grimlock » Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:51 am

Brettjr25 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:28 am Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Vegeta get SSG just from training with Whis?
That's just in the anime. Toyotaro never stated how Vegeta got it, and in the movies, the ritual is implied.

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