"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[Thanos]

Weirdest omission to me is the powered-up versions of Bojack and #13. You'd think at minimum you'd have those before the first forms. Additionally, they should add model-changing transformations to the next game. So far, the only in-game transformations are minimal, usually hair. For example, Zarbon should be able to transform in-game.

[Matches Malone]

Weirdest omission to me is the powered-up versions of Bojack and #13.

I think those 2 making it in is only a matter of time, maybe as part of a next gen port to get people to buy it.

[ZeroNeonix]

Zarbon's transformation isn't even in Legends, unless I'm mistaken. No love for Zarbon's stronger yet uglier form. But the transformations I'd really love to see is Evil Buu (the gray one that separates from Good Buu) and Mecha Frieza.

[Matches Malone]

Zarbon's transformation isn't even in Legends, unless I'm mistaken. No love for Zarbon's stronger yet uglier form. But the transformations I'd really love to see is Evil Buu (the gray one that separates from Good Buu) and Mecha Frieza.

I expect at least 2-3 of the following to be included after Pikkon:

Zarbon's transformation.
Freeza's 2nd form
Mecha Freeza
Dr. Gero
Android 19
Cell's 2nd form
Buutenks
Garlic Jr's Transformation.
Bojack's Transformation
Super Android 13.
Toppo
General Rildo

[TobyS]

I don't think they will plug missing forms untill the next full game, I don't think an in-between form would generate enough hype on it's own..

But then I didn't think we'd get Pikon at all, especially at this point.
I could see 19 and Gero making it in as they are pallet swaps of each other almost, easy 2fer. And Gero is important to lore

I think 21 might be in the next game, we won't get her w.o Gero I don't think, that'd complete the android family, especially with mid cell too.

I wonder for zarbon and BoJack, they might make the next game. if there's a race of Hera and alien race, I think they might wait to do all that at once.

We might get wheelo now he's in heroes too and possibly transformed but not base garlic, 14 and 15 unless xv3 doesn't finish the movies theme off. Garlics an awkward size too small in base and between large and giant bosses in transformed. Plus as an early and weaker villian he was easier to ignore.

I don't think we'll get more GT nobodies that aren't the big 3 villains or Saiyans or fusions, I think we'd get GT Goten before rildo and I don't think we'll get any Goten when the story isn't using them.

We'll get GT Goten in xv3 as a pallet swap of a heroes Goten I think. Trunks only got in as an extension of the overall trunks focus.

Xv2s gimmick was movie villains if xv3 moves away from that into heroes shit I think we won't get wheelo and garlic and all that finished off.

I don't think we'll get fat janemba or hirudegarn unless there's a special focus on giant Boss monsters in xv.

In fact they started at movie 3 and did one character only from each movie... So I think that's it for movies when there's a tonne of top guys that'd beat movie henchmen.

We won't get bio Broly now canon Broly has stolen the focus. So that's it for movies probably.

Abo and Cado are basic non threatening designs and too similar to each other I don't think we'll ever get them.

Ozotto and hatchy are outside possibilities only because of raging blast and heroes reusing them. So that's it for movies.

I think we'll see a much expanded ToP in XV3 and more heroes stuff, kinda done with the movies.

Pikons probably the only single filler character outside movies that's worth doing so they were able to add him without the expectations of others.

I think we'll see:

Most missing top fighters.
Chaozu
Kaioshin and Kibito and Kibitoshin
Other gods, angels, and Kaioshins.
Moro
Meerus
Heroes forms and the pre Fuu demon villians.
Maybe Hatchy and Ozotto, heroes king vegeta.
Maybe 21 and the heroes card game villian.

That's plenty for a new game. I wouldn't be shocked if we don't get a whole new villian or boss character at all actually.

I also suspect they might do a soft reboot with CAC 1 and 2 not being around.

[Matches Malone]

I didn't think we'd get Pikon at all, especially at this point.

Speaking of Pikon, I really hope he's not locked behind an online tournament like the supreme kai of time is.

[Koitsukai]

I still can't believe we never got Shirtless Jiren, he broke the internet and people worldwide gathered to watch him fight Goku... what gives?? what more did he need to do to get his ass included?

[SupremeKai25]

I still can't believe we never got Shirtless Jiren, he broke the internet and people worldwide gathered to watch him fight Goku... what gives?? what more did he need to do to get his ass included?

Same reason why we didn't get Present Zamasu (the one with orange earrings). His move set would be identical, it's literally just Jiren without his shirt.

[ZeroNeonix]

Personally, I rarely play as characters outside of my own CaC. So when I see new characters, I see story potential. Both XV1 and XV2 do a similar thing with their main stories. They cover the canon Dragon Ball stories, then someone gets dark energy, or someone shows up who isn't supposed to be there. Up until Frieza, they cover all the major beats of the canon DBZ story. They have all major characters from Raditz to even the grunts of Frieza's army. But then they skip Frieza's mid-forms because they're not programmed in. No big deal. This version's Frieza just gets right to the point and goes straight to his final form. But everything after that skips a ton of story. We don't see Trunks battle Mecha Frieza or King Cold, we don't fight 19 or 20, we don't fight Semi-Perfect Cell. We skip all that because those characters don't exist in the game. Then in the Buu arc, we don't see the Supreme Kai, Babidi, Dabura, Evil Buu, or any of Super Buu's absorptions, because those weren't in the vanilla game. (Dabura and Super Buu with Gohan absorbed were added later). So we skip a ton of story due to a lack of characters post-Frieza arc.

While I do hope XV3 has an original story, rather than rehashing the canon story for the third time in a row, having more characters means more potential. Maybe we'll actually be able to affect how events unfold, if the game takes place in the new timeline hatched from Toki Toki's egg. If that's the case, the more missing slots we can fill, the better. I'd even appreciate non-fighter characters. Give us Babidi, just to have him in the cutscenes, driving the plot. He could possibly be a fighter, but it wouldn't be necessary or expected.

[ZeroNeonix]

Same reason why we didn't get Present Zamasu (the one with orange earrings). His move set would be identical, it's literally just Jiren without his shirt.

Well, they could have just had it as an alternate costume. That wouldn't have taken a lot of effort. But at the time Jiren was released, I don't think they had much to go on beyond his concept art, so they probably didn't even know that shirtless Jiren was a thing. For both him and Ultra Instinct Goku, it seems like their moves were made up rather than inspired by the anime. So maybe XV3 will have alts of both that actually have moves from the anime. Who knows?

[SupremeKai25]

Same reason why we didn't get Present Zamasu (the one with orange earrings). His move set would be identical, it's literally just Jiren without his shirt.

Well, they could have just had it as an alternate costume. That wouldn't have taken a lot of effort. But at the time Jiren was released, I don't think they had much to go on beyond his concept art, so they probably didn't even know that shirtless Jiren was a thing. For both him and Ultra Instinct Goku, it seems like their moves were made up rather than inspired by the anime. So maybe XV3 will have alts of both that actually have moves from the anime. Who knows?

Yes, I suppose it could work as a costume. I don't think they can make an entirely separate character (like Base Goku Black and Rosé Goku Black, for example), because "shirtless" Jiren basically used all of the attacks that he already had before breaking his limits.

His newfound state where he broke his limits and was surrounded by that weird aura seemed to give him only a speed/strength amp, he didn't get any new technique, so he could work only as a costume.

[Koitsukai]

The thing is Jiren had more attacks that were left out and another iteration would've helped include them.
No Eye Glare attack.
no giant sun-like Ki ball attack (the one that UI went right through).
no two-handed fire ball attack that ended up in 17's sacrifice, that also UI cancelled with one hand.
no picking you up by the hair and blowing up your chest and make you quack.
no rain of ki blasts that UI had to withstand
no attack that overpowered MUI's Kamehameha, that he can blow up by making a fist.
no fire globe Vegeta received after the Final Flash.

Nope, just Power Rush and Owari da (which hardly deals damage).
Sure, you can't have them all like FighterZ, and they already wasted a slot by giving him a secondary default ultimate attack. He was only the character that helped break internet twice and the anime's top dog, and got only 2 original attacks, when, as I just listed, has so much more.

It's not really about what else did he do without his shirt, but where the hell are the rest of his attacks that were overlooked? I mean, how could Eye Glare have been left out? or his original ki blasts that he spammed in his full power version?

Not having Jiren's FP is like having SS Broly and not FPSS Broly, or adding Sign instead of UI.

[Draconic]

There's pleeeeeenty characters they can add to XV3's base game:

Dragon Ball:
Kid Goku
Muten Roshi
Tao Pai Pai
General Blue
Chiaotzu
Chi-Chi
King Piccolo

Dragon Ball Z:
Freeza's 2nd and 3rd forms
Transformed Zarbon
Android 19
Dr Gero
Grade III Trunks
2nd form Cell
Shin
Kibito
Kibitoshin
Buutenks

Dragon Ball GT:
Ledgic
General Rildo (all three forms)
GT Goten
Baby
Baby Vegeta's first and second forms
Oceanus Shenron

Dragon Ball Super:
Tagoma
Shisami
Sorbet
Botamo
Magetta
Rage Trunks
Fit Buu
UI Omen Goku
Toppo
Dyapo
Khaseral
Rozie
Kakunsa
Caulifla
Kale
Berserk Kale
Saonel
Pirina
Bergamo
Lavenda
Basil
Katopesla
Maji Kayo
Ganos
Wrath Broly

Dragon Ball movies:
Garlic Jr
Salza
Android 14
Android 15
Super Android 13
Zangya
Super Bojack
Hatchiyack
Bio-Broly

And that's not even going into Heroes stuff they could pull in.

Plus new revamped giant boss battles, besides the Oozarus, with special weaknesses, like:
Dr Wheelo
Giant Slug
Fat Janemba
Hirudegarn
Rage Shenron
Naturon Shenron
Haze Shenron
Anilaza
Giant Bergamo
Giant Ribbriane
Earth Moro

And you still have new characters from the manga to pull from as DLC, who would sell well, like:
Merus
Android 7-3
Goat Moro
Full Power Moro
Granola

Xenoverse 3 has it covered, no matter how much stuff they still add to 2.

[WittyUsername]

They already gave GT Goku several of Kid Goku’s moves. It’s unlikely they would add the latter to a sequel, especially when he can’t even fly.

[ZeroNeonix]

They already gave GT Goku several of Kid Goku’s moves. It’s unlikely they would add the latter to a sequel, especially when he can’t even fly.

Hercule can't fly, but he's in. Heck, we already have an awakening form that gives CaCs his Power Pole and Flying Nimbus. When Kid Goku flies, they can just make Nimbus appear under his feet. Roshi also has a few options for flight. They can do what Legends did with him and give him a turtle shell jet pack. Or more hilariously, they could give him Baby Gamera, and make him spin around on its back when in the air.

[WittyUsername]

They already gave GT Goku several of Kid Goku’s moves. It’s unlikely they would add the latter to a sequel, especially when he can’t even fly.

Hercule can't fly, but he's in. Heck, we already have an awakening form that gives CaCs his Power Pole and Flying Nimbus. When Kid Goku flies, they can just make Nimbus appear under his feet. Roshi also has a few options for flight. They can do what Legends did with him and give him a turtle shell jet pack. Or more hilariously, they could give him Baby Gamera, and make him spin around on its back when in the air.

I guess, but again, it seems like they gave his GT-self Kid Goku’s moves in order to have a best of both world situation. Then again, if FighterZ is including Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (a character who barely did anything) as a DLC, even though they already gave his moves to his Super Saiyan Blue self, then I guess we can’t exclude that possibility. I don’t think he’d be high on the list of priorities of OG DB characters, though.

[ZeroNeonix]

Oh, speaking of the Power Pole, I really hope they let us USE weapons for more than decoration next time. It'd be cool if equipping a sword would allow the CaC to swing it around.

[TobyS]

Oh, speaking of the Power Pole, I really hope they let us USE weapons for more than decoration next time. It'd be cool if equipping a sword would allow the CaC to swing it around.

I thought it did for sword moves.

Also yeah don't see any more non flyers in XV2. Hercule has precedent

[Gt91]

DLC 12: out in spring.

So we have 3 months from now. That could mean a 4 characters pack?

[Matches Malone]

DLC 12: out in spring.

So we have 3 months from now. That could mean a 4 characters pack?

Is it being promoted as DLC or a free update like the one that included supreme Kai of time ?