The potential of a GT Sequel

[Hellspawn28]

Seeing how GT is still the black-sheep of the franchise, no-one would want to touch a DB project with any GT association with a 10 foot pole in all likelyhood.

Tell that to Heroes, Ssj4 is basically the face of that game.

The SSj4 design is popular, but GT itself is still unpopular. It's like how some characters from the post-2D era of Mortal Kombat have loyal fans (Such as Fujin and Havik), but MK4-MKA are unpopular with the fandom. A sequel to GT would be a bad idea because most people won't bother with it. It's not a smart business move to do. They can find a way to bring SSj4 into Super without bringing back GT.

[Matches Malone]

The SSj4 design is popular, but GT itself is still unpopular. A sequel to GT would be a bad idea because most people won't bother with it. It's not a smart business move to do.

One thing they could do is make a Kai version of GT that edits out what didn't work in the original in order to test the waters. Between the amount of episodes they can outright remove and others that they can combine together, they could easily end up with a 40 or so episode series. It's a win-win situation, because if it takes off then they can move on with a sequel, and if not it'll be cheap enough to make that they'll still make a profit from it.

[sunsetshimmer]

The SSj4 design is popular, but GT itself is still unpopular. It's like how some characters from the post-2D era of Mortal Kombat have loyal fans (Such as Fujin and Havik), but MK4-MKA are unpopular with the fandom. A sequel to GT would be a bad idea because most people won't bother with it. It's not a smart business move to do. They can find a way to bring SSj4 into Super without bringing back GT.

Considering how the biggest problem people have with GT is the execution, not its ideas that are mostly praised, i don't see a problem here. I bet if they continued GT, but:
-Made Goku adult
-Find a way to make Vegeta either regrow a tail or force SSJ4 transformation without it
-Made others more relevant in fights
-Gave Pan a super saiyan form
-Include Gotenks

People would like to watch it.
Not to mention most of criticism towards GT comes from outside of Japan

[Matches Malone]

Considering how the biggest problem people have with GT is the execution, not its ideas that are mostly praised, i don't see a problem here. I bet if they continued GT, but:

-Made Goku adult
-Find a way to make Vegeta either regrow a tail or force SSJ4 transformation without it
-Made others more relevant in fights
-Gave Pan a super saiyan form
-Include Gotenks

People would like to watch it. Not to mention most of criticism towards GT comes from outside of Japan

Another thing to take into account is the people watching it, what fans expected back when GT was airing is very different from what they expect now. If today's fans are willing to support something as flawed as Super was, they'll have no issue supporting a GT sequel, as long as it has Toriyama's name attached to it of course.

[Peach]

I could imagine a series where Uub is in his prime. Early 30's. Long hair. The baby face gone.

[Hellspawn28]

I stil rather have Toriyama remake GT if Toei was going to bring back GT in some form. If Toriyama did his own take on GT, he should have Goku become a kid as a small story arc and not have him become one during the whole series. Also, get rid of Super 17 in general because the idea behind the character was always dumb to begin with in my opnion.

[sunsetshimmer]

I stil rather have Toriyama remake GT if Toei was going to bring back GT in some form. If Toriyama did his own take on GT, he should have Goku become a kid as a small story arc and not have him become one during the whole series. Also, get rid of Super 17 in general because the idea behind the character was always dumb to begin with in my opnion.

I don't think Super 17 was bad idea, but they should've spent more time on it and make it longer. It felt like an oldschool DBZ movie sliced into episodes, kinda like BoG and RoF arcs in DBS. I realize that Trunks appearing injured and saying "It was #17" was meant to be shocking and it worked, but it would've been better if #17 was introduced in this arc as a good person first instead of being already brainwashed. We never really saw good #17 in this arc except for like few seconds before killing Krillin. Maybe they could still keep injured Trunks scene, but by making Hell Fighter 17 being responsible for it and then everyone checking on good #17. Make a mystery about #17 apparently killing everyone but him saying he didn't and then make them fuse right after Hell Fighter 17 is introduced. It would be way more shocking to learn about second #17 than what we got in series.

[Jord]

I stil rather have Toriyama remake GT if Toei was going to bring back GT in some form. If Toriyama did his own take on GT, he should have Goku become a kid as a small story arc and not have him become one during the whole series. Also, get rid of Super 17 in general because the idea behind the character was always dumb to begin with in my opnion.

I think Super already proved that Toriyama has run out of ideas and lost his touch for writing compelling stories, especially ending stories in a satisfying way. mostly relying on nostalgia and cop-out endings. I don't think adding him to GT would improve the product. We would probably get conclusions such as:

--Oh wait, the Black Star dragon balls don't blow up the Earth. Kaio made an error translating
--Baby escaping in his space ship and teasing a return.
--Super 17 seeing the error of his ways, diffusing with the evil 17 thanks to the dragon balls and the evil 17 becoming a wacky gardener that helps Goku with his crops. Meanwile Myu teases a return.
--Instead of Goku being carried off by Shenron, letting him just beat Omega with a Spirit bomb and teasing a new adventure.
--Also give SSJ4 four different hair colors during the series, because that shows he's stronger than before!

[Matches Malone]

I think Super already proved that Toriyama has run out of ideas and lost his touch for writing compelling stories, especially ending stories in a satisfying way. mostly relying on nostalgia and cop-out endings. I don't think adding him to GT would improve the product. We would probably get conclusions such as:

--Oh wait, the Black Star dragon balls don't blow up the Earth. Kaio made an error translating
--Baby escaping in his space ship and teasing a return.
--Super 17 seeing the error of his ways, diffusing with the evil 17 thanks to the dragon balls and the evil 17 becoming a wacky gardener that helps Goku with his crops. Meanwile Myu teases a return.
--Instead of Goku being carried off by Shenron, letting him just beat Omega with a Spirit bomb and teasing a new adventure.
--Also give SSJ4 four different hair colors during the series, because that shows he's stronger than before!

One thing GT completely nailed was the presence of consequences in each arc, something Toriyama is clearly not interested in right now. He'll probably go a step further and reverse all the consequences that took place in GT's original run.

[Grimlock]

And Piccolo wouldn't die. No one, for that matter. I mean, Piccolo shouldn't die anyway, as he's still alive by the time Dragon Ball Online happens. But our "beloved" characters being protected by plot armor and thus no harm can befall them is an issue. Always salute Toei for the bold move of killing a major one permanently, this is what I'd call (a good) subverting expectations.

[Matches Malone]

Always salute Toei for the bold move of killing a major one permanently, this is what I'd call (a good) subverting expectations.

Piccolo, Buu, #17, "Goku". As much as GT has gotten wrong, each arc felt important due to the permanent consequences at the end of each one.

[MasenkoHA]

Always salute Toei for the bold move of killing a major one permanently, this is what I'd call (a good) subverting expectations.

Piccolo, Buu, #17, "Goku". As much as GT has gotten wrong, each arc felt important due to the permanent consequences at the end of each one.

Neither 17 or Boo were really main stays and Goku only dies in the series finale. Only Piccolo’s death really felt like anything of consequence.

[SupremeKai25]

17 didn't even stay dead. He was resurrected along with the other victims of Super 17 and Omega Shenron.

Super 17 was comprised of Hell Fighter 17 (evil) and Android 17 (good), the latter was mind-controlled and forced to merge, but his subconscious within Super 17 played a pivotal role in his defeat. Therefore he was considered a victim, and restored with the final wish of the Dragon Balls.

And Piccolo wouldn't die. No one, for that matter. I mean, Piccolo shouldn't die anyway, as he's still alive by the time Dragon Ball Online happens. But our "beloved" characters being protected by plot armor and thus no harm can befall them is an issue. Always salute Toei for the bold move of killing a major one permanently, this is what I'd call (a good) subverting expectations.

Do you also salute Toriyama for killing permanently Future Bulma, and the rest of the Future timeline (including the souls of Future Gohan, Future Goku, Future Vegeta, etc.)?

[Jord]

17 didn't even stay dead. He was resurrected along with the other victims of Super 17 and Omega Shenron.

Super 17 was comprised of Hell Fighter 17 (evil) and Android 17 (good), the latter was mind-controlled and forced to merge, but his subconscious within Super 17 played a pivotal role in his defeat. Therefore he was considered a victim, and restored with the final wish of the Dragon Balls.

And Piccolo wouldn't die. No one, for that matter. I mean, Piccolo shouldn't die anyway, as he's still alive by the time Dragon Ball Online happens. But our "beloved" characters being protected by plot armor and thus no harm can befall them is an issue. Always salute Toei for the bold move of killing a major one permanently, this is what I'd call (a good) subverting expectations.

Do you also salute Toriyama for killing permanently Future Bulma, and the rest of the Future timeline (including the souls of Future Gohan, Future Goku, Future Vegeta, etc.)?

The problem with that comparison is that we as viewers are not as emotionally connected to those future characters as much since we barely spend any time with these alternative versions of the characters we have bee following. Besides, the way their erasure is depicted a whole lot less emotionally than, say Piccolo's death in GT.

[MasenkoHA]

Do you also salute Toriyama for killing permanently Future Bulma, and the rest of the Future timeline (including the souls of Future Gohan, Future Goku, Future Vegeta, etc.)?

That’s not permanently killing characters that’s just saying “Hey these characters who are very much alive in the main story are dead in this dark alternative future which only matters for the purpose of this one arc”

[Grimlock]

Do you also salute Toriyama for killing permanently Future Bulma, and the rest of the Future timeline (including the souls of Future Gohan, Future Goku, Future Vegeta, etc.)?

Not at all. We are talking about a different timeline, one which we didn't follow. Bulma may have died in one timeline, but there she is alive and well in anotther one where Trunks can run to. Little consequence and impact on the viewer and narratively. No Bulma will be missed because she is there, regardless of anything. Killing a major character in the timeline we are following so much will cause great impact (and depending who we're talking about, consequence too) overall. Also, what Jord and MasenkoHA said.

No wonder Future Trunks saga has the worst ending of all.

[Yuji]

Would fans enjoy perhaps a GT adaptation/retelling in manga format drawn by Toyotarou?

[Jord]

I know they won't do it but a GT sequel without Goku would be very interesting and fresh

--We have Vegeta as lead, striving to attain SSJ4 through natural means
--Super Uub has a lot of potential, once being Gokus successor
--You can have Pan as the first strong female Saiyan in the family
--A lot tertiary characters such as Goten could get even more development
--No more Dragon balls to fix things raises the tension