Your personal misconceptions?

[marumuju]

I think I was about 14 and the manga volume 27 hadn't yet come out in my native language. I had seen a couple of DBZ episodes from the TV and some films on Youtube in 240p or less, and I had got it into my head that Goku's first Super Saiyajin transformation is this kind of a theatrical shockwave of rage and screaming and golden aura that rips the earth apart.

Cue the actual manga transformation: trembling Goku mumbles in anger, there is a PING sound, his eyes change color, then the hair stands up and then the transformation is complete, in just four panels.

I expect something more epic every time I read it, even if I've read it many times now. First impressions are a real pain to get rid of

[Planetnamek]

It's easy to do that with a lot of male anime characters it seems. When looking at pictures of Alistair from Yu-Gi-Oh I initially thought he was female(as did one of my high-school classmates) and once he spoke I was quite surprised to find out he was a dude.

If its the character I’m thinking of I did too.

I can see why the DiC and Cloverway dubs of Sailor Moon just flat out made it's two most effeminate male characters female(Zoicite and Fish-Eye).

Not like they had a choice. Not if they wanted the show allowed to air on kids tv in the 90s/turn of the millennium. I guess maybe Zoicite could have been kept male and have his relationship with Kunzite/Malachite edited down to them being brothers or something but Fish Eye’s entire character revolving around cross dressing and seducing men to trap them to extract their dream mirror was never going to fly on Cartoon Network in 2000 without getting a gender change.

True, and the whole "using crossdressing to seduce people and lure them to their doom" aspect does come off as kinda problematic in hindsight(it's a trope J.K. Rowling was heavily criticized for using in her non Harry-Potter novels as critics felt it played into ugly stereotypes) so that's one change where I actually think the dub improved on the original, it's gotten to the point where i'm so used to seeing the characters as female that having them actually be guys in the Viz dub sounds weird to me.

This is Alister:https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Alister

I remember my friend told me he was all excited that Yu-Gi-Oh was finally going to have a female villain and when he heard Alister speak he was all "you've got to be kidding me!"

[Soppa Saia People]

and somehow fisheye is the best and less creepy of the 90s Amazon trio, that's a ikuhara moment for you.

[PurestEvil]

I thought Garlic Jr and Pilaf were the same person at one point

I thought briefly that Pilaf was a goddamn Namekian because of that.

[Kinokima]

That Briefs was Bulma’s last name

It’s just the first name of her father. She doesn’t have a surname most Dragon Ball character don’t

[MasenkoHA]

That Briefs was Bulma’s last name

Didn’t Funimation do that though?

[WittyUsername]

That Briefs was Bulma’s last name

Didn’t Funimation do that though?

I believe so. Weirdly enough, they also seemed to imply that “Hercule Satan” is Mr. Satan’s full name, at least in their dub of Movie 11, where he’s referred to as both “Hercule” and “Mr. Satan”, for some reason.

[Kinokima]

That Briefs was Bulma’s last name

Didn’t Funimation do that though?

I believe so. Weirdly enough, they also seemed to imply that “Hercule Satan” is Mr. Satan’s full name, at least in their dub of Movie 11, where he’s referred to as both “Hercule” and “Mr. Satan”, for some reason.

I never thought Mr Satan’s last name was Satan because I had watched the Japanese version at the same time as Funi when I first started watching Dragon Ball so i know Hercule was a dub change

But didn’t catch on with Briefs. Reading fanfiction didn’t help with this misconception either


On another note Hercule is one of my least favorite dub changes. If they ever do a new translation of the manga I hope they change it back to Satan. It ruins many of the jokes like when everyone is cheering for Satan. Cheering for Hercule just isn’t the same.

[MasenkoHA]

On another note Hercule is one of my least favorite dub changes. If they ever do a new translation of the manga I hope they change it back to Satan. It ruins many of the jokes like when everyone is cheering for Satan. Cheering for Hercule just isn’t the same.

I’m just at a loss at why that name has stuck with dub only fans. He’s pretty much only exclusively called Hercule in the edited versions and Mr. Satan in all the uncut dubs. Outside of I guess movie 11 I don’t think he was ever called Hercule in anything uncut.

[Kinokima]

On another note Hercule is one of my least favorite dub changes. If they ever do a new translation of the manga I hope they change it back to Satan. It ruins many of the jokes like when everyone is cheering for Satan. Cheering for Hercule just isn’t the same.

I’m just at a loss at why that name has stuck with dub only fans. He’s pretty much only exclusively called Hercule in the edited versions and Mr. Satan in all the uncut dubs. Outside of I guess movie 11 I don’t think he was ever called Hercule in anything uncut.

In the English manga it’s written as Hercule also in games the character is listed as Hercule as well

[WittyUsername]

On another note Hercule is one of my least favorite dub changes. If they ever do a new translation of the manga I hope they change it back to Satan. It ruins many of the jokes like when everyone is cheering for Satan. Cheering for Hercule just isn’t the same.

I’m just at a loss at why that name has stuck with dub only fans. He’s pretty much only exclusively called Hercule in the edited versions and Mr. Satan in all the uncut dubs. Outside of I guess movie 11 I don’t think he was ever called Hercule in anything uncut.

In the English manga it’s written as Hercule also in games the character is listed as Hercule as well

In the case of the games, FighterZ and Kakarot (I think?) have referred to him as Mr. Satan.

[Kinokima]

I’m just at a loss at why that name has stuck with dub only fans. He’s pretty much only exclusively called Hercule in the edited versions and Mr. Satan in all the uncut dubs. Outside of I guess movie 11 I don’t think he was ever called Hercule in anything uncut.

In the English manga it’s written as Hercule also in games the character is listed as Hercule as well

In the case of the games, FighterZ and Kakarot (I think?) have referred to him as Mr. Satan.

On Dokkan Battle & I believe Legends (I no longer play the latter) it’s written as Hercule.

[jjgp1112]

I’m just at a loss at why that name has stuck with dub only fans. He’s pretty much only exclusively called Hercule in the edited versions and Mr. Satan in all the uncut dubs. Outside of I guess movie 11 I don’t think he was ever called Hercule in anything uncut.

In the English manga it’s written as Hercule also in games the character is listed as Hercule as well

In the case of the games, FighterZ and Kakarot (I think?) have referred to him as Mr. Satan.

Only recently. But the run of games from like 02 until then always used Hercule. Media outside of the series allowed "Hercule" to persist.

[Yuli Ban]

The Golden Warrior myth.

Way back in the day, before it was widely known that Toriyama was being lazy and galaxybrained, there was an Angelfire/Geocities era misinformation that Super Saiyan was based on a Japanese legend of the Golden Warrior, a man who transcended beyond human strength and glowed gold after experiencing great rage, and this is why other anime and Japanese properties had golden transformations, most notably Super Sonic. Indeed, it was usually Sonic fans who brought this up due to Yuji Naka denying that Super Sonic was a reference to Super Saiyan. You can even find some old threads asking about this on Kanzenshuu, and it's also mentioned on some old Sonic and anime forums back in the 2000s and very early 2010s.

It's bullshit, obviously.

Indeed, there is no such myth in Japanese history. There IS the myth of the Golden Boy, or Kintaro. Kintaro even shares many traits with Son Goku— that he was an orphan, raised by a mountain hermit, befriended animals, and was crazy strong. However, "golden" in this case is referring more to his quality. He's a "golden" or excellent boy.

I can see how some 90s otaku with little understanding of Japan and with a hot Geocities DBZ fansite would think Kintaro influenced Son Goku and took the literal translation of his name as being the influence behind Super Saiyan, and because this was the early Internet, it just became a minor accepted factoid for years until we finally got the interview with Toriyama debunking it forever widely available and reported on.

[sunsetshimmer]

- I thought Salza was a girl
- I thought Broly is Trunks in SSJ grade 3 form (i had some bootleg figure of Broly and i didn't even know such character existed)
- I thought Hirudegarn is another form of Cell i've somehow missed (once again, i didn't know this movie, i saw him in one AMV)
- I thought Super 13 is evil form of Vegeta (and once again, saw him in AMV, didn't know who he is)
- I thought Tapion was a kaioshin (once again...)

All those existed only because i knew anime from TV and so never watched any movies as those were not being aired where i live. Internet wasn't so popular and i couldn't speak english so i lacked a lot of info about franchise as polish DB sites were kinda lacking back then (nothing has really changed since then lol)

[pepd]

As a kid I thought Jackie Chun was not Muten Roshi (I think I mixed Tsuru Sennin with Jackie Chun)

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Thinking as a child for some reason that Tullece/Turles was related to Goku, when actually he's a Saiyan warrior who just happens to resemble him in appearance.

[Civic]

I thought for the longest time that Super Saiyan 2 made your hair longer as well as spikier. Not much longer but the difference in hair styles of Cell Saga Gohan SS and SS2 was the main reason I thought that.

[Grimlock]

I don't know if that should be some sort of "rule" for everyone, but since I prefer different hairstyles (over recolors...), I wouldn't mind if everyone who has Super Saiyan 2 gets the same difference as kid Gohan's got.

Caulifla is also great as Super Saiyan 2 (especially when she first debuted it, she had side bangs. Too bad Toei preferred to ditch it for no reason at all).

Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta and Super Saiyan 2 Trunks both also have a longer hair when compared to their Super Saiyan forms, by the way.

[Yuli Ban]

Thinking as a child for some reason that Tullece/Turles was related to Goku, when actually he's a Saiyan warrior who just happens to resemble him in appearance.

That wasn't just you. Many people, even some dubs, ran with that misconception.