Which is the character that you don't like
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I hate Goten and Trunks because the writers are dead set on making me hate them.
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East Kaioshin. Don't get me started with that purple fucker.
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We share a common ground then!DBZAOTA482 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:22 pm East Kaioshin. Don't get me started with that purple fucker.
Honestly, how can a deity of his position NOT know how powerful the three Saiyans who helped beat Freeza and Cell were? Especially considering he KNEW about their victories and planned to use them against BUU? He should probably have paid some damn attention to them.
Let's not get into his STUPID decision to prevent Vegeta from blowing up Babidi's ship because "it could release Buu from his shell", even though Buu would have been SIGNIFICANTLY weaker and much more easier to handle, especially with SSJ3 Goku (something Kaioshin should have KNOWN ABOUT)!
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Or how someone who could oneshot Frieza, wouldn't just do that and free countless worlds from his tyranny/dictatorship. And thus at the same time also end the wars that Frieza was conducting.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:02 amWe share a common ground then!DBZAOTA482 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:22 pm East Kaioshin. Don't get me started with that purple fucker.
Honestly, how can a deity of his position NOT know how powerful the three Saiyans who helped beat Freeza and Cell were? Especially considering he KNEW about their victories and planned to use them against BUU? He should probably have paid some damn attention to them.
Let's not get into his STUPID decision to prevent Vegeta from blowing up Babidi's ship because "it could release Buu from his shell", even though Buu would have been SIGNIFICANTLY weaker and much more easier to handle, especially with SSJ3 Goku (something Kaioshin should have KNOWN ABOUT)!
Useless-sama.
Oh No, I know why, it's because the Gods have this fantastic law that says Kais can't intervene against ningens, even though they could destroy evil.
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Well, considering how close Goku and co became with the divine bureaucracy, I think that law may be bent around a little...SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:12 amOr how someone who could oneshot Frieza, wouldn't just do that and free countless worlds from his tyranny/dictatorship. And thus at the same time also end the wars that Frieza was conducting.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:02 amWe share a common ground then!DBZAOTA482 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:22 pm East Kaioshin. Don't get me started with that purple fucker.
Honestly, how can a deity of his position NOT know how powerful the three Saiyans who helped beat Freeza and Cell were? Especially considering he KNEW about their victories and planned to use them against BUU? He should probably have paid some damn attention to them.
Let's not get into his STUPID decision to prevent Vegeta from blowing up Babidi's ship because "it could release Buu from his shell", even though Buu would have been SIGNIFICANTLY weaker and much more easier to handle, especially with SSJ3 Goku (something Kaioshin should have KNOWN ABOUT)!
Useless-sama.
Oh No, I know why, it's because the Gods have this fantastic law that says Kais can't intervene against ningens, even though they could destroy evil.
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So are you guys saying that if Cabba became all buffed up and muscular like Broly you'd suddenly like him?
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He doesn't need to be extremely buff, just some muscles is enough. Imagine if Cabba gets SSG which makes the user even more slim, that would make Cabba even more pathetic than he already looks.Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:07 pm So are you guys saying that if Cabba became all buffed up and muscular like Broly you'd suddenly like him?
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Not like Broly, but like Shallot, yes. He would have a much better design, which may contribute to someone's overall enjoyment of a character.Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:07 pm So are you guys saying that if Cabba became all buffed up and muscular like Broly you'd suddenly like him?
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People would certainly not view him as a dweebPolyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:07 pm So are you guys saying that if Cabba became all buffed up and muscular like Broly you'd suddenly like him?
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I guess, Cabba is one of those rare cases in DB, where a non-threatening fella ends up being non-threatening. His power, personality and performance matches his looks.
Re: Which is the character that you don't like
Once again, characters who are only alive because of Shin:
Gohan (Boo arc)
Goku and Vegeta (Boo arc)
Goku (GT)
Also kind of everyone (GT)
Future Trunks and Mai (DBS manga; twice over, actually; the one native to the timeline in flashback, and the one from the main timeline during the arc)
Merus (DBS manga)
Main villains he has thrown hands with: Boo, Zamasu
There’s fun had at the expense of his lack of knowledge in the Boo arc, but the idea that he never contributes just isn’t germane to the text.
He’s extremely boring. His entirely personality is like the straight-man character to a more rambunctious partner, but very rarely does he ever get to pull through on that dynamic when alongside Caulifla and Kale.Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:29 pm I don't get why everyone seems to hate Cabba. Is it because he's a Saiyan that's not a battle junkie like the rest of them?
It’s worse in the anime where a substantial portion of his character is dedicated to fawning over Vegeta.
DB characters can be anything, but they should probably never be that dull.
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we are aware that if shin hadn't underestimated the saiyans in the first place despite seeing gohan transform into tournament ... buu would not have been born
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Vegeta. Super* made me dislike him. I feel like he is forced on me as a reader and I don't like it. I'd rather see Piccolo or Gohan than Vegeta again and again and again and again. Goku is the MC, so he has to be in a center (but Z did it waaaaaay better).
*and his fans... They are always unsatissfied and whine all the time.
Goten and Trunks. Again, Super made me dislike them, they're forever stuck as kids and they even looks younger than their Boo Arc counterparts. I'm just sick of them (being kids for eternity).
Ribrianne... When Super "dedicated" episodes to her fight I... I just skipped parts of the episode to get rid of her. It was the first time in my life that I did something like that while watching Dragon Ball.
Caulifla. I don't like her character. She has very nice design but girl is written horribly, irritating. And Kefla is the same. Kale is cute, I like her very much (except that stupid "SON GOKUH!!!!" thing... but let's not talk about it).
*and his fans... They are always unsatissfied and whine all the time.
Goten and Trunks. Again, Super made me dislike them, they're forever stuck as kids and they even looks younger than their Boo Arc counterparts. I'm just sick of them (being kids for eternity).
Ribrianne... When Super "dedicated" episodes to her fight I... I just skipped parts of the episode to get rid of her. It was the first time in my life that I did something like that while watching Dragon Ball.
Caulifla. I don't like her character. She has very nice design but girl is written horribly, irritating. And Kefla is the same. Kale is cute, I like her very much (except that stupid "SON GOKUH!!!!" thing... but let's not talk about it).
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Boo wouldn’t have been revived had Goku and Vegeta not gotten cocky and prioritized their own fight.
He winds up saving multiple main cast members after the main cast members themselves have gotten into trouble by repeatedly ignoring his plans. (The story provides reasonable grounds for them to ignore them, but never in such a way that makes Shin out to be useless—his plan was valid but its optics to the Saiyans were not.)
Heck, he does more to bail the cast out in his introductory arc than Trunks does.
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Anime Kale is AWFUL. Thank God the manga made her significantly less weird and pathetic. One of the few things Toyotaro did better.
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But why? It's not like muscle mass is that functional in DB.Grimlock wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:32 pmNot like Broly, but like Shallot, yes. He would have a much better design, which may contribute to someone's overall enjoyment of a character.Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:07 pm So are you guys saying that if Cabba became all buffed up and muscular like Broly you'd suddenly like him?
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It isn't. But let's say Shallot and Cabba were both introduced at the same time to the viewers (which they kinda were (?) if I remember correctly). We don't know anything about them, but I would invest more on Shallot initially, because I find his design to be a lot a better than Cabba's.
My investment wouldn't be in vain, because I would later learn that Shallot is also in a much better context (ancient Saiyan, possibly attached to the original Super Saiyan God and etc) than Cabba, who showed up just to be in tournaments. They tried to come up with a subplot about him being Vegeta's pupil, but that hasn't been properly done or anything really.
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I don't really care that much about the overall design. That's not why I emotionally attach to a character and I could give a damn about the original Super Saiyan God. It's dumb lore BS. Why is that worth getting emotionally attached to exposition?Grimlock wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:25 amIt isn't. But let's say Shallot and Cabba were both introduced at the same time to the viewers (which they kinda were (?) if I remember correctly). We don't know anything about them, but I would invest more on Shallot initially, because I find his design to be a lot a better than Cabba's.
My investment wouldn't be in vain, because I would later learn that Shallot is also in a much better context (ancient Saiyan, possibly attached to the original Super Saiyan God and etc) than Cabba, who showed up just to be in tournaments. They tried to come up with a subplot about him being Vegeta's pupil, but that hasn't been properly done or anything really.
The seeds have been planted for Cabba to become Vegeta's pupil, Nothing has been improperly done.
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'Filler' Gohan and Kuririn. Not normally written Gohan and Kuririn, they're among my favourite characters. No, I'm talking about the anime versions, specifically during fight scene padding when they sit there making the endless running commentaries of nothing but the same shitty lines to fill out for time, you know the ones. "S-sonna bakana!", "Hayai!", "Sugeiiiii!", "Otosan!" and generally pointless dissection of Goku's every miniscule action that we can clearly see with our eyes. Kuririn really reaches peak searing annoyance in the Tournament of Power, not helped at all by the fact that we waste so much time on his determination to get back in the game (including that entire mini arc to himself immediately prior to the recruitment portion of the main arc) only for him to get K.O'd immediately. For the rest of the arc, he's sitting there screeching and overreacting at the action going on in front of him. What a waste of Mayumi Tanaka's talent.
The same good/bad writing dichotomy theoretically applies to any character, but Kuririn and Gohan suffer the most from fillerific padding throughout the franchise, to the point where that's their entire identities to some fans who idolise the Saiyan/Namek/Freeza arc period.
The same good/bad writing dichotomy theoretically applies to any character, but Kuririn and Gohan suffer the most from fillerific padding throughout the franchise, to the point where that's their entire identities to some fans who idolise the Saiyan/Namek/Freeza arc period.