"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[PurestEvil]

This is completely random, but when I first saw the Heeter's in B&W manga I assumed they were softish-plain orange with blood-red tinted dark brown hair. I don't know why, but this is how I imagined them looking in colour. It startled me a bit when their official colour scheme was the complete opposite of what I had assumed, being soft-turquoise with purple hair. Maybe there was a fan colouring that gave me this impression. Maybe I subconsciously associated the name Heeter's with the word heat, which is usually orangey-red. Don't know. Anyone else?

Well, the fire of a stove is blue...maybe that has something to do with it

[MCDaveG]

This is completely random, but when I first saw the Heeter's in B&W manga I assumed they were softish-plain orange with blood-red tinted dark brown hair. I don't know why, but this is how I imagined them looking in colour. It startled me a bit when their official colour scheme was the complete opposite of what I had assumed, being soft-turquoise with purple hair. Maybe there was a fan colouring that gave me this impression. Maybe I subconsciously associated the name Heeter's with the word heat, which is usually orangey-red. Don't know. Anyone else?

You're not alone, somehow, I asumed that they have red hair as well

[TKA]

They reminded me of Bojack and his mooks, so I was right.

[PurestEvil]

They reminded me of Bojack and his mooks, so I was right.

At least they don’t have orange hair. It might have fit the “heat” theme, but it would have made them look like rip offs

[The Accountant]

Something like these colours I've found, so for the skin (maybe paler):




And for the hair, not bright red. Something more like this (maybe even darker):


With this as secondary colour highlight,



Hair reminiscent of Saiyan Saga Vegeta:

[BWri]

They reminded me of Bojack and his mooks, so I was right.

Same. I'm 99.9% sure that was the inspiration. Just look at the similarity of the designs, especially the clothes.

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[PurestEvil]

They reminded me of Bojack and his mooks, so I was right.

Same. I'm 99.9% sure that was the inspiration. Just look at the similarity of the designs, especially the clothes.

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Of course the girl has the most vivid hair color of the three, how Smurfette-ish

[UpFromTheSkies]

What do you guys think of the new pages that leaked? It looks like Vegeta gave his new technique a name, but there's a lot of debate on how it should be translated. I love how savage they're making Vegeta in this new form, I hope he finally gets a win.

[Mr Baggins]

No idea how Viz is gonna translate this (beware of spoilers in link), but if they're consistent...

Spoiler:

...they'll replace the "Instinct" part of Ultra Instinct for Vegeta's form instead of "Ultra", since both already have Gokuu'i in the name.

Ultra Ego is what I'd go with, but who knows how they'll do it. It's not the easiest naming scheme to translate into English.

[Alruneia]

No idea how Viz is gonna translate this (beware of spoilers in link), but if they're consistent...

Spoiler:

...they'll replace the "Instinct" part of Ultra Instinct for Vegeta's form instead of "Ultra", since both already have Gokuu'i in the name.

Ultra Ego is what I'd go with, but who knows how they'll do it. It's not the easiest naming scheme to translate into English.

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I have to agree, and Herms summed up my line of thought pretty well, so no need for me to repeat it. It makes sense to keep the "Ultra" and replace the "Instinct". I guess I'll call it Ultra Egoist for now...

...But the official translation comes out in just two days anyway, so we'll see what they go with then.
I still don't like the form a whole lot.

[Marz]

No idea how Viz is gonna translate this (beware of spoilers in link), but if they're consistent...

Spoiler:

...they'll replace the "Instinct" part of Ultra Instinct for Vegeta's form instead of "Ultra", since both already have Gokuu'i in the name.

Ultra Ego is what I'd go with, but who knows how they'll do it. It's not the easiest naming scheme to translate into English.

It will still feel weird to remove the ''instinct'' part of the English name when Vegeta's last line of dialogue in the last chapter is about how this form is moved solely by instinct. Just like Ultra Instinct that's the whole deal about this technique (even though there are differences between the meanings of the two techniques in Japanese). Anyway it seems unlikely that they will be able to portray the subtlety of the meaning of the original version in the English translation

[jd55513]

I wish they did "Fudoshin no Gokui" since it's Buddhist-Daoist enlightenment stuff, like Mushin no shen.
Fudōshin is a state of equanimity or imperturbability. It is a philosophical or mental dimension to Japanese martial arts which contributes to the effectiveness of the advanced practitioner.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Could they translate it as ultra willpower, or maybe ultra pride? I don't know Japanese, but it seems like it would fit.

[pepd]

I like Will. It works with both Vegeta's personality and the duality with Instinct.

[UpFromTheSkies]

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I'm seeing supposed plot leaks around twitter saying that Vegeta shows Granolah how to use hakai so he can have a more interesting fight, I really hope that's not the case I want Vegeta to finally get a win, not a repeat of his fight with semi-perfect Cell

[caire]

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I'm seeing supposed plot leaks around twitter saying that Vegeta shows Granolah how to use hakai so he can have a more interesting fight, I really hope that's not the case I want Vegeta to finally get a win, not a repeat of his fight with semi-perfect Cell

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I'd be suspicious of those leaks tbh, that sounds unlike current Vegeta. He usually just wants to eliminate the threat asap, going by Broly (and Moro, although he ruined that by monologuing ). The only reason I can think of why he would do that, is because of his earlier comments about how there are no stakes associated with this fight so he's enjoying himself more - perhaps he wants to prolong that enjoyment a bit, especially as he's not exactly in his usual state of mind right now. But even then, I feel like Vegeta's the type to tell Granolah to go and train by himself to master it, rather than teaching him outright there and then.

[theherodjl]

If I had to guess, Goku & Vegeta are probably going to lose because of a lack of focus & priority. Goku may have Perfected UI but he still holds back and wastes opportunity instead of finishing the job because he still has such a laid-back, complacent attitude. Vegeta has got the Hakaishin thing going for him but he'll get lost in fighting the battle so much that he'll forget about doing what he needs to for the sake of his own pleasure in humiliating his opponent. Granolah found a way with Goku and likely will find a way with Vegeta by taking advantage of their core faults that Whis laid out.
...but maybe I'm wrong, hopefully.

[UpFromTheSkies]

I really hope Vegeta doesn't lose to Granolah after having the upper hand, it would be so boring, the same thing happens to him almost every time. While I'm not expecting Granolah to be killed, I want Vegeta to at least get to the point where he is about to finish Granolah off but is interrupted by a bigger problem.

[DBSuperHD Mexico]

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[DiscountDabi]

Only Dragon Ball Super can drain my Hype in One Scan:

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I really thought it might happen this time. I really thought that maybe they wouldn't beat his ass on Vegeta day. The chapter litterally comes out on Vegeta day and they still let him get his ass beat.

At this point I don't even care. Just drop the chapter and be done with it. Let me guess, Goku gets the Senzu Bean from Vegeta and Beats Granolah.

So Predictable.