What do you wish was expounded more on in the series?

SSJmole · Post by **SSJmole** » Wed May 28, 2008 6:42 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Well Vegeta and Bulma did have sexual tension before we found out that they would eventually have Trunks. First there was when Bulma invited Vegeta to live with her at Capsule Corp and told him not to do anything naughty, and then Vegeta started blushing and stuttering. And then the filler scene about the pink shirt. After that, it seemed like Vegeta and Bulma seemed like those type of people who had an attraction based of of not being able to stand each other. You know, where one day, they're all alone and start acting awkard, and then have disgusting, primal sex. Just a thought...

Yeah, I was thinking if they had shown it, It would be like Buffy and Spike kinda. I even imagine Vegeta having a dream about kissing Bulma and then waking up and doing the "oh god no ..... please no" thing

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:47 pm

I can see it now. He wakes up and say, "NO! Snap out of it Vegeta, that'll never happen! NEVER!" Then one day during a gathering, Vegeta sees Bulma, she glances back, and then they sneak to some empty area and fuck.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Wed May 28, 2008 9:33 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I can see it now. He wakes up and say, "NO! Snap out of it Vegeta, that'll never happen! NEVER!" Then one day during a gathering, Vegeta sees Bulma, she glances back, and then they sneak to some empty area and fuck.

Man, that's romantic AND hilarious.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Wed May 28, 2008 9:49 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I can see it now. He wakes up and say, "NO! Snap out of it Vegeta, that'll never happen! NEVER!" Then one day during a gathering, Vegeta sees Bulma, she glances back, and then they sneak to some empty area and fuck.

I love how direct this sounded. Smexiness.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Wed May 28, 2008 9:51 pm

Stridex wrote:Just curious; anyone else out there who "doesn't"/"didn't" want more backstory? I think that's one of the things that has always worked really well about Dragonball is the right amount of "vague". I love the fact that a character like Piccolo, for example, at the beginning of sagas is usually shown just... meditating. Like, he just sits around for years at a time, waiting for the next go-round. There's something highly amusing that friends as good as Goku, Bulma, and Krillin can take five years off from each other to the extent that Gohan is a new development... and in the same day Bulma and Krillin meet Gohan, Goku up and dies. There's something to all of this that is far more interesting to me than the alternative of seeing the characters hanging out in the "off seasons", so to speak.

I can agree if only because too much of this could lead to something that would be a fusion between the Garlic Jr. Saga and Naruto filler. Like GT, for example.

Cypher wrote: After the fight with Freeza, he married Bulma.

Which sort of contradicts the (unofficial, or moreso) BT3 info...I guess it's inconclusive in the end

Well, does it say when after the fight with Freeza?

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:26 pm

They basically detest each oter so much that they want each other's naughty bits. And I'm sure Yamcha resented this.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:17 am

Onikage725- no, it only literally says that, but I just thought that if it had been at any particular point it'd specify, like 'in the seven years after the Cell Game' or something like that...I guess it depends how you want to read it, as 'at some point after the fight with Freeza' (as in from then to the end of the series) or 'in the aftermath of that fight'...so like I said, in my opinion it's pretty inconclusive, but then everyone has their own thoughts and that doesn't bother me, I just thought I'd give the information for the sake of it

Shenron · Post by **Shenron** » Thu May 29, 2008 12:52 pm

In the french translation of the manga, Trunks tells Goku something like that :
"They never got married. You know the kind of person my mom is".

If this translation is accurate, it may be Bulma who didn't want to marry Vegeta...at least in Trunks' timeline.

sailorspazz · Post by **sailorspazz** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:09 pm

Yes, the translation is accurate, he also says in the Japanese manga that they didn't get married. It didn't happen is his time, but since Vegeta is dead in that timeline, there's nothing to say that they couldn't have gotten married eventually had he not died. Though it kind of makes me wonder....I think Vegeta seeing Trunks get killed by Cell was a major turning point in realizing how he felt about his family. If that had never happened, would he still have felt the need to get back together with Bulma and help raise baby Trunks following the Cell saga? Did Future Trunks end up altering his family dynamics in the main timeline? Kind of an interesting question to ponder....

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:59 pm

So Trunks' time travel changing history could be what changed Vegeta from being an asshole.

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:14 pm

I agree with everyone else: the series really could've used more scenes where character relationships are elaborated upon. The Bulma/Vegeta stuff would've been hilarious. Showing Kuririn/No. 18 finding their way to each other also would've been hilarious and also really heartfelt & emotional. Episodes like that would have a nice upbeat feeling to them, and a nice break from all of the fighting/training/etc...

Hell, even some more "at-home" scenes with Chichi, Gohan, & young Goten would've been nice. I thinking mainly of scenes like the Movie 11 Ending, with that baby Trunks/Goten animation.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:52 am

Onikage725 wrote: I also think a Kami (or rather, son of Katatsu) arc would have been cool. His struggle to find his place, his rise as Kami, Daimao's birth, Mutaito and his student's struggle against Daimao, etc. We get the basics in flashback, but it would make for a cool story all its own.

I just might trade an organ for the straight up history of the child of Kattatsu in cannon. I'm fascinated by it, by all of it- I've been trying to write it for years and I've read some amazing fics of it but I want to know the rest of it- everything surrounding his growing up and growing twisted, trying to rise to the role of Kami and competing with another young man named Garlic- everything that came from that, and... everything. I love these characters, I love that long history and I want to know more, badly.

Rory wrote:I can't get enough out of Gohan and Piccolo, and though we did get a lot, I would have liked to have seen more of them two in the later Boo arc.

Oh, we do get Pic and Gohan stuff- until Gohan gets a little older and more or less forgets his mentor, the man who's been his father, exists. I want to see them interact more when Gohan's a young man. I want Gohan not to completely forget about him > <

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:20 am

Velasa wrote:Oh, we do get Pic and Gohan stuff- until Gohan gets a little older and more or less forgets his mentor, the man who's been his father, exists.

Time spent with Gohan before Buu Saga:

Goku - 8 years (3 shared with Piccolo)
Piccolo - 4 years (3 shared with Goku)

Um... maybe it's just me, but one year of punching a kid in the face does not a father make.

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:44 pm

17 and 18 were explained as being humans that were turned into androids, but who were they before that? Where did Dr. Gero get these twin kids in the first place? Did they want to be androids at first - maybe just two bored kids lured in by him promising them power before he tried to take complete control of them, they realized what he was really trying to do, and they rebelled? Or were they kidnapped or something and forced from the beginning? Not going into that always seemed to me like a missed opportunity, and one that wouldn't really have taken up much time to explain. A short flashback and a few lines explaining their human sides and past would have added a lot more personality to these characters.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:47 pm

Rocketman wrote:Time spent with Gohan before Buu Saga:

Goku - 8 years (3 shared with Piccolo)
Piccolo - 4 years (3 shared with Goku)

Um... maybe it's just me, but one year of punching a kid in the face does not a father make.

Ooho, but we've argued about this one before and didn't manage to get anywhere. I respect your opinion, yet disagree still.

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:48 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:They basically detest each oter so much that they want each other's naughty bits. And I'm sure Yamcha resented this.

Actually, when Goku tells Old Kaioshin that he'll get him a naughty photo of Bulma, Vegeta yells at Goku. He complains about using "his wife" and asks Goku why he doesn't use Chi-Chi instead.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:50 pm

Alice wrote:...A short flashback and a few lines explaining their human sides and past would have added a lot more personality to these characters.

Since they obviously had free will and must have remembered their experiences before they were turned into androids (since they obviously remembered each other) I think that the way they acted after being activated is a pretty accurate representation of how they would have acted before being transformed into killing machines.

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:22 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Alice wrote:...A short flashback and a few lines explaining their human sides and past would have added a lot more personality to these characters.
Since they obviously had free will and must have remembered their experiences before they were turned into androids (since they obviously remembered each other) I think that the way they acted after being activated is a pretty accurate representation of how they would have acted before being transformed into killing machines.

Sorry, poor choice of words on my part. I didn't so much mean personality as in literally how they would act, more like... the word I'm looking for is right in the back of my mind and I can't quite think what it is right now... but anyway, basically I just thought that going into a little more depth in how they got into that situation in the first place would have added some more interest and entertainment to that part of the story and those characters.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:17 am

I always thought they lost their memories after being cyborgized...surely otherwise, she would given Kuririn her real name at least...

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:58 am

I always got the feeling that if the children did have names, Gero weaned them off them quickly. They have to remember something from their pasts- she remembers they're siblings after all, and Gero wouldn’t have bothered to tell them that.