Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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Post by Issei189 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:43 am

KentMan wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:59 pm I will never understand peoples obsession with Goten and Trunks growing. But on this topic I feel like they did this so fans would get distracted and ask questions regarding the plot.
Grown up Goten and Trunks means that they have potential to be developed and be utilized in serious fights. This is why plenty of fans were glad about this.

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Post by KentMan » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:36 am

Issei189 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:43 am
KentMan wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:59 pm I will never understand peoples obsession with Goten and Trunks growing. But on this topic I feel like they did this so fans would get distracted and ask questions regarding the plot.
Grown up Goten and Trunks means that they have potential to be developed and be utilized in serious fights. This is why plenty of fans were glad about this.
Not if you haven’t seen them mess up the fusion pose and watched/read the End Of Z

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Post by Issei189 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:00 am

KentMan wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:36 am
Issei189 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:43 am
KentMan wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:59 pm I will never understand peoples obsession with Goten and Trunks growing. But on this topic I feel like they did this so fans would get distracted and ask questions regarding the plot.
Grown up Goten and Trunks means that they have potential to be developed and be utilized in serious fights. This is why plenty of fans were glad about this.
Not if you haven’t seen them mess up the fusion pose and watched/read the End Of Z
I know about that and the Fat Gotenks in this upcoming movie from the merch. The point here is that they have potential to be utilized better than before in future projects because Toriyama\Toei could always change their minds. Its just like how none of us expected Gohan and Piccolo to be the lead of this new movie. Plans change all the time. I'm not saying they will fight the main villain. I'm saying they won't be used in gags forever.

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Post by PurestEvil » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:31 am

KentMan wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:59 pm I will never understand peoples obsession with Goten and Trunks growing. But on this topic I feel like they did this so fans would get distracted and ask questions regarding the plot.
No one is “obsessed”, it’s more like a collective relief that TOEI didn’t muck something up for once
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Post by KentMan » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:51 am

Issei189 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:00 am I know about that and the Fat Gotenks in this upcoming movie from the merch. The point here is that they have potential to be utilized better than before in future projects because Toriyama\Toei could always change their minds. Its just like how none of us expected Gohan and Piccolo to be the lead of this new movie. Plans change all the time. I'm not saying they will fight the main villain. I'm saying they won't be used in gags forever.
Well who knows what might happen there seems to be a split given that not much info was shown.
PurestEvil wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:31 am No one is “obsessed”, it’s more like a collective relief that TOEI didn’t muck something up for once
Okay don’t know what the mucking is but if it makes you guys happy it’s good than even though I don’t get it.

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Post by PurestEvil » Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:07 am

KentMan wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:51 am
PurestEvil wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:31 am No one is “obsessed”, it’s more like a collective relief that TOEI didn’t muck something up for once
Okay don’t know what the mucking is but if it makes you guys happy it’s good than even though I don’t get it.
Most fans are happy about Goten and Trunks' reveal because many of us were worried TOEI would keep making them look like 10 year olds. Thankfully, they didn't.
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Post by TheMajinRedComet » Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:30 am

Don't underestimate fat Gotanks. Veku was definitely powerful. Janamba was laying into him and he was holding up much better than Goku and Vegeta. Even a poor fusion must increase your durability. Maybe you obtain all those Mr. Satan comic relief stats.
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Post by ZeroNeonix » Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:58 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:48 pm Maybe Got-Trunk?
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Post by Koitsukai » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:00 pm

Teenage Gotenks also means that we are finally past or close to getting past this neverending rift between Buu and EoZ with like 10 stories crammed in there. With the possibility of new stories without an already known outcome, not that it changes much to know the outcome but still.
TheMajinRedComet wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:30 am Don't underestimate fat Gotanks. Veku was definitely powerful. Janamba was laying into him and he was holding up much better than Goku and Vegeta. Even a poor fusion must increase your durability. Maybe you obtain all those Mr. Satan comic relief stats.
Yeah, Veku, while being a gag character, survived long enough and even in a better shape than Goku and Vegeta, making Janemba struggle like never before. Fatenks probably will provide a fun and harmless fight.

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Post by TobyS » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:40 pm

TheMajinRedComet wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:30 am Don't underestimate fat Gotanks. Veku was definitely powerful. Janamba was laying into him and he was holding up much better than Goku and Vegeta. Even a poor fusion must increase your durability. Maybe you obtain all those Mr. Satan comic relief stats.
I mean that was both a gag and non canon.
I assume fat gotenks will happen to explain why gotenks can't help (in time) to allow Gohan and Piccolo to remain the only strong guys on earth. With Buu asleep again.
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Post by OLKv3 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:51 pm

Grimlock wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:39 pm I like how Goten and Trunks still don't look quite the same as they'll look in the tournament. They seem a bit smaller to me, even if I'm only saying this based on a poster. That's a nice attention to detail, based on the fact that this movie is not really that close to the tournament, we are two years away from it, after all.

We're actually only a year away from the tournament. Pan is 3 in this movie, and 4 at the tournament

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Post by TheMajinRedComet » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:58 pm

I thought she was 4 in the movie, 5 in eoz and 10 in GT. Does she have the same age issue as Bra?
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Post by Krillin1994 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:39 pm

I think the argument that Goten and Trunks being seen to be slackers by their parents at EoZ is moot when this looks to be a Gohan centric film yet he wouldn't compete in the Tenkaichi a year later especially if he gets a power up in this film/wants to be a superhero for Pan.

I don't think that we will only get fat Gotenks in this film. Maybe we could be hopeful that them doing the pose wrong is a sign that they aren't as in sync anymore and will instead fight more as their own warriors and get development. Obviously am still hoping for a grown up Gotenks design and don't think the figure only showing his failed fusion means that his succesful fusion won't be shown.

This has been a long time coming though, I remember the speculation the forum had when the preview for the Arale episode appeared, and people were saying OMG!! his arms look longer he's grown up!!!!!! How close everyone was only being 5 years away haha

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Post by Toxin45 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:49 pm

I also heard leaks that cell might return cuz it is cgi

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Post by PurestEvil » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:52 pm

Toxin45 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:49 pm I also heard leaks that cell might return cuz it is cgi
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Post by mute_proxy » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:57 pm

Toxin45 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:49 pm I also heard leaks that cell might return cuz it is cgi
You heard people saying Cell returning would make sense because it's easier to do the spots on his body in CGI. It's not a leak, it's just a silly reasoning for a random idea.

We had a scan of DBHeroes promoting the movie characters (Cell not included), and in an ingame screenshot Goku was back to back with Cell, but next to it, Goku's on the Cell games arena (which was destroyed in DBZ), so probably has no meaning.

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Toxin45 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:49 pm I also heard leaks that cell might return cuz it is cgi
That's just someone's theory, nothing else. They drew Cell on Dragon Ball Z, they can draw him for a new movie. It's just a pain in the ass to keep him on model.
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Post by Grimlock » Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:44 pm

OLKv3 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:51 pmWe're actually only a year away from the tournament. Pan is 3 in this movie, and 4 at the tournament
Pan is four when the tournament occurs, yes, but she is going to turn five later that same year. AGE 779 + 5 = AGE 784. The tournament takes place before her birthday.
TheMajinRedComet wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:58 pmDoes she have the same age issue as Bra?
No. Pan always had one birth year (AGE 779). The "issue" is that the manga says she is four, which would place her birth year in "AGE 780" instead. Thankfully, Dragon Ball Super confirms Pan is one year older than Bra, and by doing that, it also confirms that the former year is indeed her birth year.

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Post by KentMan » Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:22 pm

PurestEvil wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:07 am
KentMan wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:51 am
PurestEvil wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:31 am No one is “obsessed”, it’s more like a collective relief that TOEI didn’t muck something up for once
Okay don’t know what the mucking is but if it makes you guys happy it’s good than even though I don’t get it.
Most fans are happy about Goten and Trunks' reveal because many of us were worried TOEI would keep making them look like 10 year olds. Thankfully, they didn't.
It was gonna happen it’s natural for them to grow in height but did they grow in strength is the question?

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Post by sangofe » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:11 am

KentMan wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:22 pm
PurestEvil wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:07 am
KentMan wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:51 am

Okay don’t know what the mucking is but if it makes you guys happy it’s good than even though I don’t get it.
Most fans are happy about Goten and Trunks' reveal because many of us were worried TOEI would keep making them look like 10 year olds. Thankfully, they didn't.
It was gonna happen it’s natural for them to grow in height but did they grow in strength is the question?

They haven't trained. How should they have?

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