Daman Mills issue

[KentMan]

There are fans that don’t believe Vic is guilty its not just Vic supporters. The neutrality I speak of is just them not liking this pointless squabble.

If you believe that Mignogna did not do the things he literally said he did, then that's not fucking neutrality, dude. That is supporting Vic Mignogna. And let's be honest, 90% of the time it's a proxy for saying the abusers they like shouldn't face consequences either way. This is what the other side believes.

I ain’t dodging your question cause I know and you know that any hatred fighting harassing and what not. Causes pain and suffering while losing friendships with one another.

Well hey, why don't you tell Vic Mignogna and his toxic internet fans to stop harassing people then? Because, to be clear, they're the ones doing that, not us. There is an incredible amount of difference between whatever toxicity has been thrown their way for the whole "supporting a self-admitted abuser" deal and what they've inflicted the rest of the world's "thinking assault is bad" position. If you think it's equal, you're either a liar or a fool.

It is not worth it anything that causes people to fight one another is not worth keeping. If something is causing you to not see what it is your doing than I suggest you let it go. I personally don’t want to lose anyone because I care and love others. Why can’t you?

Actually, whether or not people get assaulted is objectively worth more than a faux-pas of civility with a bunch of internet douchebags. Some things actually should be fought for.

If something is causing you to not see what it is your doing than I suggest you let it go. I personally don’t want to lose anyone because I care and love others. Why can’t you?

You obviously don't care about the victims here though, otherwise you wouldn't be demanding their supporters roll over and let the reactionary internet shitheads do whatever they want.

The fans don’t believe because of this this entire conversation we are having. They should be able to think for themselves on the matter. And you might like getting into fights I don’t you’ll lose a lot more than you had. The fans that have stayed outta this fight clearly want peace. You’re insults at me already prove how much similar you are to your enemy as you see them.

I know how victims feel because I myself knows what that is like that. I was a boy when it happened but it’s not surprising you know little about me. Your the second person on this site I’ve told that I actually had my rights violated as child.

Revenge is a fools game I should know it ain’t worth it. And neither is judging or condemning people.

[KentMan]

I'm sorry but I didn't follow the trial much, but Vic actually admitted to what he did?

The decision is up to you to see the truth on your own trust life to guide you to what you seek

[miguelnuva1]

I'm sorry but I didn't follow the trial much, but Vic actually admitted to what he did?

The decision is up to you to see the truth on your own trust life to guide you to what you seek

What did the metaphorical response have to do with my question?

Also I looked it and answered my own question.

[FPSSJ4_Goku]

I'm sorry but I didn't follow the trial much, but Vic actually admitted to what he did?

He even showed them what he did

[KentMan]

I'm sorry but I didn't follow the trial much, but Vic actually admitted to what he did?

The decision is up to you to see the truth on your own trust life to guide you to what you seek

What did the metaphorical response have to do with my question?

Also I looked it and answered my own question.

That response i made is suggesting that you see things in life’s own view which admittedly is not easy

[Shaddy]

The fans don’t believe because of this this entire conversation we are having.

So you admit it has nothing to do with the actual facts then and is just based on hating the other side?

They should be able to think for themselves on the matter.

Of course they should! And I reserve the right to correctly identify them as a load of dipshits for thinking something as stupid as "Vic Mignogna is innocent of the assaults he confessed to".

And you might like getting into fights I don’t you’ll lose a lot more than you had.

Okay, what have I lost here? You've wasted my time, I suppose, I'll admit to that. But it's worth showing how absolutely hypocritical it is to claim civility by telling us to back down when the other side is inherently uncivil.

The fans that have stayed outta this fight clearly want peace.

If someone is "staying out of the fight", then they're not even in this thread. If you are, that, again, means you don't actually care about peace. You just want me to shut up.

You’re insults at me already prove how much similar you are to your enemy as you see them.

If someone says "Vic Mignogna is innocent" and someone else says "Vic Mignogna is not innocent", there is necessarily a person who is right and a person who is wrong. They are not equal opinions, and they are not held by people with equally-valid ideologies.

Also, I haven't insulted you. You saying things that liars and fools believe is a behavior I am identifying, not an attack on your character. I can't simply switch all my opinions on the bad behavior you're participating in just because you choose to take it personally.

I know how victims feel because I myself knows what that is like that. I was a boy when it happened but it’s not surprising you know little about me. Your the second person on this site I’ve told that I actually had my rights violated as child.

Then you should understand how disgusting it is to deny the abuse of others.

Revenge is a fools game I should know it ain’t worth it. And neither is judging or condemning people.

Nobody's talking about "revenge". Vic Mignogna was removed because he was creating a hostile workplace. He was fired to remove the threat he posed to others (okay, well, he was removed because his threat to others was also a threat to Funi's money, but same difference). Hopefully, since Daman Mills is in the same spot, he will receive the same treatment for the protection of others.

If you hate judgement so much, stop judging everyone around you for daring to say that sexual abuse is bad.

[miguelnuva1]

The decision is up to you to see the truth on your own trust life to guide you to what you seek

What did the metaphorical response have to do with my question?

Also I looked it and answered my own question.

That response i made is suggesting that you see things in life’s own view which admittedly is not easy

Dumb it down for me one more time please. I'm confused on what you're telling me to see.

[KentMan]

The fans don’t believe because of this this entire conversation we are having.

So you admit it has nothing to do with the actual facts then and is just based on hating the other side?

They should be able to think for themselves on the matter.

Of course they should! And I reserve the right to correctly identify them as a load of dipshits for thinking something as stupid as "Vic Mignogna is innocent of the assaults he confessed to".

And you might like getting into fights I don’t you’ll lose a lot more than you had.

Okay, what have I lost here? You've wasted my time, I suppose, I'll admit to that. But it's worth showing how absolutely hypocritical it is to claim civility by telling us to back down when the other side is inherently uncivil.

The fans that have stayed outta this fight clearly want peace.

If someone is "staying out of the fight", then they're not even in this thread. If you are, that, again, means you don't actually care about peace. You just want me to shut up.

You’re insults at me already prove how much similar you are to your enemy as you see them.

If someone says "Vic Mignogna is innocent" and someone else says "Vic Mignogna is not innocent", there is necessarily a person who is right and a person who is wrong. They are not equal opinions, and they are not held by people with equally-valid ideologies.

Also, I haven't insulted you. You saying things that liars and fools believe is a behavior I am identifying, not an attack on your character. I can't simply switch all my opinions on the bad behavior you're participating in just because you choose to take it personally.

I know how victims feel because I myself knows what that is like that. I was a boy when it happened but it’s not surprising you know little about me. Your the second person on this site I’ve told that I actually had my rights violated as child.

Then you should understand how disgusting it is to deny the abuse of others.

Revenge is a fools game I should know it ain’t worth it. And neither is judging or condemning people.

Nobody's talking about "revenge". Vic Mignogna was removed because he was creating a hostile workplace. He was fired to remove the threat he posed to others (okay, well, he was removed because his threat to others was also a threat to Funi's money, but same difference). Hopefully, since Daman Mills is in the same spot, he will receive the same treatment for the protection of others.

If you hate judgement so much, stop judging everyone around you for daring to say that sexual abuse is bad.

Again you’re making the same mistakes in your other posts you’re allowing your anger to control you. Have you not seen what you’re posting? You’re wasting your time trying to fight other humans instead of realizing they’re not your enemy. All these insults and you coming at me as if I was them. Has shown time and time again that you’re no different. You just judged me and acted like you knew me. You don’t me or what I went thru and vice versa.

Past civil rights activist like Martin Luther King would never have acted like this. It’s such a shame that modern folk don’t learn from past peace keepers.

[Shaddy]

Again you’re making the same mistakes in your other posts you’re allowing your anger to control you.

There aren't any mistakes here! You are batting for people who are objectively wrong, this forum is not required to respect that.

Have you not seen what you’re posting? You’re wasting your time trying to fight other humans instead of realizing they’re not your enemy. All these insults and you coming at me as if I was them.

Okay, so do you acknowledge that he did the things he admitted to doing? If so, then why are you defending the deniers?

Also, again, I have not insulted you.

Has shown time and time again that you’re no different. You just judged me and acted like you knew me.

I am judging your behavior. I have made no personal statements about you.

Also, again, there is objective difference between people who think Vic's guilty and people who don't.

You don’t me or what I went thru and vice versa.

But I know what you're doing right now, and that's all I'm talking about. Nothing anyone goes through can justify the victim-blaming and denial that you are defending.

Past civil rights activist like Martin Luther King would never have acted like this. It’s such a shame that modern folk don’t learn from past peace keepers.

"Acted like this"? You mean saying words you don't like? That's exactly what he did. You may notice I'm not comitting or threatening violence against you just for spewing this garbage, I am informing you that you are unwelcome here because your actions are bad.

Regardless, we should not ignore the startling racism of appropriating a civil rights leader's words to defend sexual abuse on a fucking anime forum. The mask is really slipping further and further with each post you make.

[KentMan]

Dumb it down for me one more time please. I'm confused on what you're telling me to see.

You must see and expect to be wrong to have overlooked something it is life’s many ways of communicating with you. To see what is right or wrong good and evil you must go back to the origins. It has done a wonder for me so long as I hold fast to my integrity.

[KentMan]

Again you’re making the same mistakes in your other posts you’re allowing your anger to control you.

There aren't any mistakes here! You are batting for people who are objectively wrong, this forum is not required to respect that.

Have you not seen what you’re posting? You’re wasting your time trying to fight other humans instead of realizing they’re not your enemy. All these insults and you coming at me as if I was them.

Okay, so do you acknowledge that he did the things he admitted to doing? If so, then why are you defending the deniers?

Also, again, I have not insulted you.

Has shown time and time again that you’re no different. You just judged me and acted like you knew me.

I am judging your behavior. I have made no personal statements about you.

Also, again, there is objective difference between people who think Vic's guilty and people who don't.

You don’t me or what I went thru and vice versa.

But I know what you're doing right now, and that's all I'm talking about. Nothing anyone goes through can justify the victim-blaming and denial that you are defending.

Past civil rights activist like Martin Luther King would never have acted like this. It’s such a shame that modern folk don’t learn from past peace keepers.

"Acted like this"? You mean saying words you don't like? That's exactly what he did.

Regardless, we should not ignore the startling racism of appropriating a civil rights leader's words to defend sexual abuse on a fucking anime forum. The mask is really slipping further and further with each post you make.

Who said I was defending abuse? Only you have said that not me. And yes you have insulted me by lying and putting words in my mouth. You’re not my spokesman so I would appreciate if you talk for your self. Again proving that you’re no different than those you accuse.

[miguelnuva1]

Dumb it down for me one more time please. I'm confused on what you're telling me to see.

You must see and expect to be wrong to have overlooked something it is life’s many ways of communicating with you. To see what is right or wrong good and evil you must go back to the origins. It has done a wonder for me so long as I hold fast to my integrity.

Ok thanks for the advice.

[Shaddy]

Who said I was defending abuse? Only you have said that not me.

Well, no, you kinda have too. By constantly refusing to actually engage with the facts, demanding that people who are against abuse simply stop responding, and sending me DMs and half-baked replies claiming that I'm the same as the abuser, you are downplaying and denying the abuse, which is a defense even if you don't believe it to be.

But, just to be clear, you almost certainly do believe it to be. Got a problem with that? Say he did the things he admitted to doing. Should be pretty easy.

And yes you have insulted me by lying and putting words in my mouth.

I have not lied, and frankly I haven't really put words in your mouth, just extrapolated things from the words that come out of it. If you have a problem with my conclusions, then prove me wrong.

You’re not my spokesman so I would appreciate if you talk for your self.

I would appreciate it if you don't falsely equivocate believing sexual abuse happened with sexual abuse (which is a much worse thing than me being rude to you, I might add), but you're not respecting that much more sane request, so...?

Again proving that you’re no different than those you accuse.

Well, no, because unlike Vic Mignogna and his ilk I have not sexually abused anyone, or defended the abuse of anyone. That's a pretty fucking important difference, and it's interesting that you keep ignoring it.

[KentMan]

Well, no, you kinda have too.

You just lied again look at what you just posted. Please tell me that you are just not feeling well are you? Nobody would have said this if you were honest.

Look you wanna go after Vic is one thing but to accuse his “ilk” as being the same as you see it is wrong. No one here is trying to do that except you.

Edit: you just claimed twice that I was defending abuse and twice you lied

[Shaddy]

You just lied again look at what you just posted.

Edit: you just claimed twice that I was defending abuse and twice you lied

No, I didn't. You have repeatedly refused to admit that he is responsible for the abuses he admitted to, and I can't really see why unless you're denying them yourself...which is a defense of those abuses, full-stop. Your constant defense of his terrible fanbase and attempts to slander the opposition don't help.

There is no "neutrality" on this. There is no halfway point between believing a secret SJW goblin conspiracy happened and not believing that. You are, right now, making the conscious choice to say that we, the people who the courts, the victims, and the perpetrator have agreed with, are the ones who need to back down to "make peace" with people whom I have seen claim that most sexual assault allegations are fake.

Look you wanna go after Vic is one thing but to accuse his “ilk” as being the same as you see it is wrong. No one here is trying to do that except you.

Well no, actually. I'm not accusing them of being the same as me. They are worse. I would go so far as to say most people in general are better than Vic stans. Their targeted harassment campaign has not slowed down a bit since 2019. I refuse to accept your constant bad-faith false equivalences.

[KentMan]

No, I didn't.

Yes you did or are you going to tell me you never said this

Well, no, you kinda have too.

Look I don’t wanna go any further with this so I’m just gonna let bygones be bygones. Everyone else if
They want can continue discussing about Daman Mills.

[Shaddy]

Yes you did or are you going to tell me you never said this

I did say that. And it's not a lie. You can see for yourself by reading the words that surround it. Shockingly, they give it a context that makes quite a bit of sense.

[WittyUsername]

This is now the 2.0 version of the Vic Mignogna thread from three years ago, I take it?

[KentMan]

This is now the 2.0 version of the Vic Mignogna thread from three years ago, I take it?

Well with the added bonus of Damian Mills soon another dragon ball voice actor will also get in trouble

[Kunzait_83]

So is it common for actors to actually be perverted people behind closed doors? Because I see this kinda stuff happening all the time. From Mignogna to Mills, a lot of actors (mainly male ones) have been accused, and have actually committed, sexual misconduct. Why does this keep happening? Are they not satisfied with their relationships, forcing them to go for other women? Are they closeted perverts? Has sexual abuse in the American film industry creeped into the voice acting/dubbing industry as well? What's going on?

The thing you are talking about is what happens when humans are tempted by that which seeks to destroy them.

I'm sorry, did you really just heavily imply that women/sexual assault victims are purposefully seeking to destroy men? Like, definitionally?

Way to give the whole game away in a single sentence my dude.