Goku wasn't allowed to come back because the Androids were only a threat to Earth and they were a slow threat. Vegeta was allowed back for example because Buu was destroying the Earth in days and was a threat to the universe on top of that.TobyS wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:52 amYeah Goku cites saving the world from Cell as the reason he didn't get a body.FoolsGil wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:15 amThen he should have lost his body too, no more tantrummiguelnuva1 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:52 pm
Every fanfiction that I've read that deals with the future has Vegeta in heaven because for some reason Goku threw a tantrum to get him there.
The only contradiction to this is Goku appearing one one panel in a bonus chapter by toyo, but even then I'd still argue this is just to show it's Goku speaking rather than a puffy cloud.
Goku not getting a body is the only reason him not coming back for a day makes sense outside Baba dying too.
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They can ask Baba to take them back for any reason, it is not something reserved for universal threats, Grandpa Gohan came back just to see his grandson and Goku during the buu arc used the day to participate in a tournament, there is no reason why Goku wouldn't be able to come back or at least communicate with Gohan via Kaioh, Trunks' timeline is simply full of logical inconsistencies with previously established elements.miguelnuva1 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:13 pmGoku wasn't allowed to come back because the Androids were only a threat to Earth and they were a slow threat. Vegeta was allowed back for example because Buu was destroying the Earth in days and was a threat to the universe on top of that.TobyS wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:52 amYeah Goku cites saving the world from Cell as the reason he didn't get a body.
The only contradiction to this is Goku appearing one one panel in a bonus chapter by toyo, but even then I'd still argue this is just to show it's Goku speaking rather than a puffy cloud.
Goku not getting a body is the only reason him not coming back for a day makes sense outside Baba dying too.
Conversely, there is no reason why Goku would want Vegeta to go to heaven at that point, given Vegeta was a villain and Goku did not consider him a friend yet.
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Goku wants to fight Vegeta, that's all the reason he needs for anything.Ashur wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:31 amThey can ask Baba to take them back for any reason, it is not something reserved for universal threats, Grandpa Gohan came back just to see his grandson and Goku during the buu arc used the day to participate in a tournament, there is no reason why Goku wouldn't be able to come back or at least communicate with Gohan via Kaioh, Trunks' timeline is simply full of logical inconsistencies with previously established elements.miguelnuva1 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:13 pmGoku wasn't allowed to come back because the Androids were only a threat to Earth and they were a slow threat. Vegeta was allowed back for example because Buu was destroying the Earth in days and was a threat to the universe on top of that.TobyS wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:52 am
Yeah Goku cites saving the world from Cell as the reason he didn't get a body.
The only contradiction to this is Goku appearing one one panel in a bonus chapter by toyo, but even then I'd still argue this is just to show it's Goku speaking rather than a puffy cloud.
Goku not getting a body is the only reason him not coming back for a day makes sense outside Baba dying too.
Conversely, there is no reason why Goku would want Vegeta to go to heaven at that point, given Vegeta was a villain and Goku did not consider him a friend yet.
Baba's power seems to work based on if she and King Enema can make a deal. Enema might not have seen a reason for Goku to go back and fight the Androids.
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But he did see an important reason to let Son Gohan participate in Baba's tournament? It doesnt seem like he interfered with her affairs, the Buu situation was an exception and it was Enma daioh who came up with it, he was using her abilities to further his plan to send Vegeta as last resort, it wasn't Baba asking permission, in fact she's never the one to suggest bringing the dead back for one day, the dead or enma daioh are always the ones looking for her, so i see no reason why Goku couldnt just come back for a day to train Gohan and Trunks..miguelnuva1 wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:45 pmGoku wants to fight Vegeta, that's all the reason he needs for anything.Ashur wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:31 amThey can ask Baba to take them back for any reason, it is not something reserved for universal threats, Grandpa Gohan came back just to see his grandson and Goku during the buu arc used the day to participate in a tournament, there is no reason why Goku wouldn't be able to come back or at least communicate with Gohan via Kaioh, Trunks' timeline is simply full of logical inconsistencies with previously established elements.miguelnuva1 wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:13 pm
Goku wasn't allowed to come back because the Androids were only a threat to Earth and they were a slow threat. Vegeta was allowed back for example because Buu was destroying the Earth in days and was a threat to the universe on top of that.
Conversely, there is no reason why Goku would want Vegeta to go to heaven at that point, given Vegeta was a villain and Goku did not consider him a friend yet.
Baba's power seems to work based on if she and King Enema can make a deal. Enema might not have seen a reason for Goku to go back and fight the Androids.
And vegeta doesnt need to be in heaven for Goku to settle their fight, they just have to Grant Vegeta his body.
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I thought Baba used her magic to bring the dead back to serve her. Does she need permission? Maybe she just takes the souls she wants and revives them, whether Yemma likes it or not. Maybe the reason Baba was the one to take Goku and Vegeta back was because Yemma didn't actually have the means to bring people back to life, so he's like, "Go get that pest Baba. She can do it."
I know Kami could grant someone their body in the afterlife, being the god of Earth, but I don't know who else can do that.
I know Kami could grant someone their body in the afterlife, being the god of Earth, but I don't know who else can do that.
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I hope he isn't just going to jump onboard without asking for some reassurance, we readers know the tournament is legit, but future Trunks shouldn't be this gullible in front of strangers who are offering a chance which sounds that good, he even said it's "almost unbelievable", I hope he is going to ask them some more questions before he says yes.
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and he's the only protector of Earthnineko wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:38 am I hope he isn't just going to jump onboard without asking for some reassurance, we readers know the tournament is legit, but future Trunks shouldn't be this gullible in front of strangers who are offering a chance which sounds that good, he even said it's "almost unbelievable", I hope he is going to ask them some more questions before he says yes.
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Well, here he has 16. So, not the only one. But they don't exactly have the spare numbers (to put it mildly).Bardock God of Time wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:05 pmand he's the only protector of Earthnineko wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:38 am I hope he isn't just going to jump onboard without asking for some reassurance, we readers know the tournament is legit, but future Trunks shouldn't be this gullible in front of strangers who are offering a chance which sounds that good, he even said it's "almost unbelievable", I hope he is going to ask them some more questions before he says yes.
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Has the rule of not being able to revive someone that has been dead for more than one year been removed?
Or is Trunks going to receive zombie Vegeta and Zombie Gohan?
Or is Trunks going to receive zombie Vegeta and Zombie Gohan?
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Of course he is. The plot of DBM had to happen.nineko wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:38 am I hope he isn't just going to jump onboard without asking for some reassurance
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He do realize "Future Vegeta" is not same person and is probably still jerk?
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Didn't 16 come with him to the tournament though?Jackalope89 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:30 pmWell, here he has 16. So, not the only one. But they don't exactly have the spare numbers (to put it mildly).Bardock God of Time wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:05 pmand he's the only protector of Earthnineko wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:38 am I hope he isn't just going to jump onboard without asking for some reassurance, we readers know the tournament is legit, but future Trunks shouldn't be this gullible in front of strangers who are offering a chance which sounds that good, he even said it's "almost unbelievable", I hope he is going to ask them some more questions before he says yes.
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I like the edit here, even though it feels very cheap in comparison to the original
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I don't think there's a single panel in this thing that's not traced. Young Jiji would be impressed.
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This chapter was a nothing burger
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Yeah, this chapter is such a waste of time. At least it's pretty.
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