Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
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Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94
目覚めよ!孫悟飯
Mezameyo! Son Gohan
Awaken! Son Gohan (or "Awaken, Son Gohan!")
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Release Information:
JAPAN:
Date: June 21, 2023
Publication: V-Jump, August 2023 Issue
Cost: ¥620
(V-Jump is forward-dated two months from its actual release window. Issues are generally released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or a holiday, in which case the issue gets moved up a day appropriately.)
INTERNATIONAL:
Date: June 20, 2023 (timed to the JP midnight-on-June-21st release)
Publication: Digital (Viz/Shonen Jump + Manga Plus)
Cost: Free
FIRST OFFICIAL TEASE:
The "Weekly Dragon Ball News" segment posted on the Dragon Ball Official Website on 12 June 2023 featured Victory Uchida (Shueisha employee/mascot, and editor for the Dragon Ball Super manga working alongside Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama) displaying a tease for the upcoming drafts on screen, which will (tentatively) be shared on June 14.
STORYBOARDS/DRAFTS:
The first several pages of any given chapter's roughs/storyboards/drafts have been posted on the official Dragon Ball website for quite some time now (in all likelihood done in an attempt to combat piracy and control the narrative by releasing teases of specific information and context at their own discretion). The drafts for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 94 were posted on June 14 (Japan time). As these specific articles are generally removed from the website upon the chapter's formal release, archived versions of these links (such as this) are generally shared by fandom.
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THREAD/DISCUSSION INFORMATION
This is the "official" discussion thread for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 94. All content regarding this specific chapter would be great to include here in this thread, rather than the dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread. Posts that are specific to the individual chapter in the gigantic thread with no relevance to the larger series will be reported and/or removed.
Q: When will this thread open?
A: This thread will be opened by a Kanzenshuu moderator when the first official promotion of the respective chapter occurs. This may be when its storyboards are shared, or in some kind of formal news article leading up to that point. Please do not create a separate thread of your own to discuss this chapter.
Q: What is the history behind a [blank]-specific discussion thread?
A: We established episode-specific discussion threads beginning with Dragon Ball Kai in 2011, followed by the Dragon Ball Super television series in 2015. These episode-specific threads allowed people to discuss just that: those specific episodes, without being interrupted by other discussions regarding general production, promotion, etc. We didn't create corresponding Dragon Ball Super manga chapter threads at its debut due to the nature of its production: it was initially billed as a "comicalization" of the television series, and the first arc barely stood on its own as a unique production, rather than supplemental/incidental/disposable. We had kept the larger thread out of inertia from those earlier chapters, and have wavered for literal years over whether or not to separate them out.
Q: We've had worthwhile individual chapters since chapter five. This is absurd. Why are you just starting individual discussion threads so many years into the manga, when the TV series had it from the start?
A: All of that is correct. Maybe we will go back and pull out threads for past chapters. Maybe we won't. We should have done this a long time ago. Better late than never. This is the plan for now on and is not currently up for discussion or reconsideration. Thank you.
Q: OK, but... so what's the point?
A: At Kanzenshuu we believe in history and preservation. It is worthwhile to future versions of ourselves and entirely new future fans to be able to dig back and find real-time reactions to specific productions (such as a specific episode or chapter). It's much easier to do this when the discussions are separated into these unique threads.
Q: When will new threads be created?
A: Threads for new/upcoming manga chapters will be created by a Kanzenshuu administrator at an appropriate point in time following the release of a previous chapter, and ahead of that next chapter's release schedule (which itself includes the official drafts/storyboards).
Q: OK, so what do you expect us to actually discuss in a chapter thread, particularly ahead of its release?
A: For some time now, Shueisha (in all likelihood to combat "leaks" and illegal piracy) has released "draft" pages of upcoming chapters in the two weeks leading up to any given chapter's release. These are official pieces of information dissemination and absolutely up for discussion. We welcome questions about where and how to legally and officially consume the manga. We do not condone nor allow the discussion or encouragement of piracy. Following a chapter's release, of course anything relating to that chapter and its contents are up for discussion in a specific thread.
Q: What kinds of "sources" can we discuss?
A: You can discuss whatever you want, so long as it lives up to the community guidelines. It is recommended that you link to / discuss actual sources of information, rather than second-hand accounts. Twitter and its users are not "sources" of information. Shueisha has its own official Dragon Ball website and weekly news broadcast on YouTube, which will in all likelihood be your actual primary sources of information leading up to a chapter's release.
Q: What if I have something to say about another chapter that's not this chapter?
A: Is what you have to say/ask/post even tangentially related to this chapter? That's fine. Does it have absolutely nothing to do with this chapter? Post it elsewhere. These chapter-specific threads do not automatically close after a new chapter comes out; you are free to keep discussing a specific chapter for as long as you all feel like talking about it.
Q: So what do we do with the big/main thread?
A: The dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread is still perfect for overall/holistic discussion regarding the manga, its production, its promotion, its content relation to other parts of the franchise, etc.
Q: I want to learn more about what's going on with this manga's production!
A: Check out Episode #0489 of our podcast for an extreme deep-dive (with all the receipts you can eat!) into the production of the manga, including all of the ways that Toyotaro, Akira Toriyama, and Victory Uchida each individually contribute to it.
目覚めよ!孫悟飯
Mezameyo! Son Gohan
Awaken! Son Gohan (or "Awaken, Son Gohan!")
-------------------------------
Release Information:
JAPAN:
Date: June 21, 2023
Publication: V-Jump, August 2023 Issue
Cost: ¥620
(V-Jump is forward-dated two months from its actual release window. Issues are generally released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or a holiday, in which case the issue gets moved up a day appropriately.)
INTERNATIONAL:
Date: June 20, 2023 (timed to the JP midnight-on-June-21st release)
Publication: Digital (Viz/Shonen Jump + Manga Plus)
Cost: Free
FIRST OFFICIAL TEASE:
The "Weekly Dragon Ball News" segment posted on the Dragon Ball Official Website on 12 June 2023 featured Victory Uchida (Shueisha employee/mascot, and editor for the Dragon Ball Super manga working alongside Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama) displaying a tease for the upcoming drafts on screen, which will (tentatively) be shared on June 14.
STORYBOARDS/DRAFTS:
The first several pages of any given chapter's roughs/storyboards/drafts have been posted on the official Dragon Ball website for quite some time now (in all likelihood done in an attempt to combat piracy and control the narrative by releasing teases of specific information and context at their own discretion). The drafts for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 94 were posted on June 14 (Japan time). As these specific articles are generally removed from the website upon the chapter's formal release, archived versions of these links (such as this) are generally shared by fandom.
-------------------------------
THREAD/DISCUSSION INFORMATION
This is the "official" discussion thread for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 94. All content regarding this specific chapter would be great to include here in this thread, rather than the dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread. Posts that are specific to the individual chapter in the gigantic thread with no relevance to the larger series will be reported and/or removed.
Q: When will this thread open?
A: This thread will be opened by a Kanzenshuu moderator when the first official promotion of the respective chapter occurs. This may be when its storyboards are shared, or in some kind of formal news article leading up to that point. Please do not create a separate thread of your own to discuss this chapter.
Q: What is the history behind a [blank]-specific discussion thread?
A: We established episode-specific discussion threads beginning with Dragon Ball Kai in 2011, followed by the Dragon Ball Super television series in 2015. These episode-specific threads allowed people to discuss just that: those specific episodes, without being interrupted by other discussions regarding general production, promotion, etc. We didn't create corresponding Dragon Ball Super manga chapter threads at its debut due to the nature of its production: it was initially billed as a "comicalization" of the television series, and the first arc barely stood on its own as a unique production, rather than supplemental/incidental/disposable. We had kept the larger thread out of inertia from those earlier chapters, and have wavered for literal years over whether or not to separate them out.
Q: We've had worthwhile individual chapters since chapter five. This is absurd. Why are you just starting individual discussion threads so many years into the manga, when the TV series had it from the start?
A: All of that is correct. Maybe we will go back and pull out threads for past chapters. Maybe we won't. We should have done this a long time ago. Better late than never. This is the plan for now on and is not currently up for discussion or reconsideration. Thank you.
Q: OK, but... so what's the point?
A: At Kanzenshuu we believe in history and preservation. It is worthwhile to future versions of ourselves and entirely new future fans to be able to dig back and find real-time reactions to specific productions (such as a specific episode or chapter). It's much easier to do this when the discussions are separated into these unique threads.
Q: When will new threads be created?
A: Threads for new/upcoming manga chapters will be created by a Kanzenshuu administrator at an appropriate point in time following the release of a previous chapter, and ahead of that next chapter's release schedule (which itself includes the official drafts/storyboards).
Q: OK, so what do you expect us to actually discuss in a chapter thread, particularly ahead of its release?
A: For some time now, Shueisha (in all likelihood to combat "leaks" and illegal piracy) has released "draft" pages of upcoming chapters in the two weeks leading up to any given chapter's release. These are official pieces of information dissemination and absolutely up for discussion. We welcome questions about where and how to legally and officially consume the manga. We do not condone nor allow the discussion or encouragement of piracy. Following a chapter's release, of course anything relating to that chapter and its contents are up for discussion in a specific thread.
Q: What kinds of "sources" can we discuss?
A: You can discuss whatever you want, so long as it lives up to the community guidelines. It is recommended that you link to / discuss actual sources of information, rather than second-hand accounts. Twitter and its users are not "sources" of information. Shueisha has its own official Dragon Ball website and weekly news broadcast on YouTube, which will in all likelihood be your actual primary sources of information leading up to a chapter's release.
Q: What if I have something to say about another chapter that's not this chapter?
A: Is what you have to say/ask/post even tangentially related to this chapter? That's fine. Does it have absolutely nothing to do with this chapter? Post it elsewhere. These chapter-specific threads do not automatically close after a new chapter comes out; you are free to keep discussing a specific chapter for as long as you all feel like talking about it.
Q: So what do we do with the big/main thread?
A: The dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread is still perfect for overall/holistic discussion regarding the manga, its production, its promotion, its content relation to other parts of the franchise, etc.
Q: I want to learn more about what's going on with this manga's production!
A: Check out Episode #0489 of our podcast for an extreme deep-dive (with all the receipts you can eat!) into the production of the manga, including all of the ways that Toyotaro, Akira Toriyama, and Victory Uchida each individually contribute to it.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
We end with Piccolo going Orange this chapter or with Cell Max being awakened.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Looking at the fact that the chapter will start with Pan's kidnapping, Toyotaro would really have to chop the threads from the film and shorten Gohan's fight to end up with an awakened Cell or Orange Piccolo. In my opinion, the chapter will end with Piccolo using a form of awakened potential.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
There's plenty of setup left to get through. Seems more likely to me this month will end in the middle of Gohan vs. Gamma 1, which could give us up to another four or five months of the arc. (Longer than I originally predicted, but that seems like the most reasonable prediction based on where we are now, giving space to the action scenes and looking for appropriate ending beats/cliffhangers. Cell Max is probably going to stick around for a few chapters in order to feel like a proper climax as well.)
I think this'll all read pretty well when it's finished, and on subsequent passes through Super. It's just rough in real time when it's pushing back new storylines we're all understandably anxious to see.
I think this'll all read pretty well when it's finished, and on subsequent passes through Super. It's just rough in real time when it's pushing back new storylines we're all understandably anxious to see.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Agreed. It's a necessary step if they want to make everything more unified.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
This is why if the anime returns it needs to adapt the Broly arc whether it will be worse or not.GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:37 amAgreed. It's a necessary step if they want to make everything more unified.
The anime is the only one that can tell the complete uninterrupted story from Beerus to Cell Max.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Thus is the fate of a promo manga with nothing to currently promote. Now its the main course, but unfortunately its incomplete as a standalone work.Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:48 pmThis is why if the anime returns it needs to adapt the Broly arc whether it will be worse or not.GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:37 amAgreed. It's a necessary step if they want to make everything more unified.
The anime is the only one that can tell the complete uninterrupted story from Beerus to Cell Max.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Yep if you're a casual fan who has finished Dragon Ball Z and want more then you can't just read the manga because it skipped the movies but then you can't just go by the movies because it skipped but did reference events from the manga.
The anime though has the chance to tell the entire uninterrupted story.
The anime though has the chance to tell the entire uninterrupted story.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
As someone who hasn’t seen the Super hero movie, I really enjoyed this chapter.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Good chapter, it's not Toyos fault he has to recap the movie, it'll read better on re-reads and we have Super Dragonball Heroes to keep us going in the mean time.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
The fighting wasn't boring this chapter, although I still dislike the Ultimate form. I wish Gohan had simply transformed into Super Saiyan 2 or perhaps dealt a damaging blow using something he recalled from his training with Gokuu in the Room of Spirit and Time during the Artificial Humans arc.
My daughter, Pan, was, as always, cute, though.
My daughter, Pan, was, as always, cute, though.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
I liked this one. Something that Toyotaro is better than Toriyama is remembering past characters. The officer that appears in the beginning is the same that helped kid Goku find Bulma when he went to visit her the first time
I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
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I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
Good catch.FortuneSSJ wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:54 pm I liked this one. Something that Toyotaro is better than Toriyama is remembering past characters. The officer that appears in the beginning is the same that helped kid Goku find Bulma when he went to visit her the first timeSpoiler:
I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
It's 30 years difference, but still not impossible that it's the same. Like even Dr. Brief still hasn't changed a bitFortuneSSJ wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:54 pm I liked this one. Something that Toyotaro is better than Toriyama is remembering past characters. The officer that appears in the beginning is the same that helped kid Goku find Bulma when he went to visit her the first time
Really nice reference there, that's what I like to see from Toyotaro.
Agree, it will be a pretty good read if you see it as a whole.I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
Looking forward to Trunks and Gotens appearance in a few chapters
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread
I was interested in seeing if he would substantially change this part of the story, considering the difference between the manga's version of Gohan and the anime's. Toyotaro's Gohan has never stopped training, fought evenly with Kefla, and fought 73.
Yet in the brief time since then, he's suddenly lost all that.
Funny stuff.
Yet in the brief time since then, he's suddenly lost all that.
Funny stuff.
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