I could see Towa making an appearance with her magic, but Mira would be too powerful for the characters to deal with in their Babality forms. Unless they get their normal forms back before fighting him, of course.Grimlock wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:53 am So, with this series apparently being really connected to the Majin Buu saga, it's a good opportunity to feature Mira and Towa, mainly the latter, as she is Dabura's sister. While we do not know if that information came from Dimps or if it was supposed to be revealed in Dragon Ball Online, be that as it may, them being siblings made up for an interesting lore due to their relationship being unique (it's not your usual "you're part of my family but I couldn't give two cents about you" that we unfortunately see in Dragon Ball). It would be great if they kept that aspect about them.
I'll be happy with just the Makaio and Makaioshin appearances, though.
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I vote for axing Mira and Towa and creating characters to replace them who are fun instead of dry boring assholes
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I can already hear the complaints, "just like when they introduced the Androids and Trunks cut him in half, no originality, running on fumes" and so on.SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:59 amBut I heard from some people in this very thread that Dragon Ball is unique and special series because it constantly throws curveballs and subverts expectations. That is the classic Toriyama genius!dragonballhero wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:31 pm For that matter, I pray Black Frieza (if Gohan does get involved in that situation) utterly WRECKS Beast Gohan. Once we get to that point of Super, I just really don't want there to be a situation where Gohan simply needs to activate Beast and we're done. Like, with all the build-up to Frieza, that guy better DESTROY the entire Dragon Team, to prove all that decade-long training was certainly NOT a waste of time.
So shouldn't Black Frieza return for a new arc only to get stomped in the first 2 episodes by the real main villain (whoever that is)?
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Basically Toriyama has been phoning it in since the start of Super.ObnoxiousNamek wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:16 am I wonder about this franchise sometimes how did it become even more directionless? Near the end of the TOP leading to Broly it seemed it had finally found its footing a bit but man these past 6 years out of the upcoming 40 is probably the worse spot the franchise has ever been in. Declining toy sales, lowest viewership & interest, barely noticeable on trending, dogshit characters, art,designs, & writing Crappy CG running amok. i feel the only ones excited for this new series is just the oldhead fans & the only reason is because they can spite the "DEEBEEZEE" fans that they aren't getting what they wanted. Which i find funny cause i guarantee after some time has passed those same old fans acting like they love this will be making long winded tweets and video dissertations calling this crap also same thing happened with super shitro. Man i wish different ppl had the creative rights to Dragonball we wouldnt be in the mess we are in now
Battle of Gods was great and felt like it had some effort put into it.
After that we got a show with shoddy animation, surviving on name recognition, fan service and recycling of old ideas. (Let's bring back Freeza for the fourth time, let's bring back Broly, let's bring back Trunks and use ideas from his special, let's bring back Cell, let's bring back the trope of Gohan needing to regain his powers again)
"What about Goku turning SSJ, but his hair is BLUE?"
-"Great idea Mr. Toriyama. Does he have any extra abilities"
"No, he just has blue hair."
It may be canon...but that doesn't mean it's quality. And hey, I don't blame Toriyama at all. If he can make big money by delivering sub par content, more power to him.
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There's nothing wrong with the characters. It's how they're used that matters. Same with Fu. I loved him in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, but in Super Dragon Ball Heroes, he's super boring and cliched. I think Toriyama could do something fun with them, if he wanted to. Kinda surprised they're still only sorta soft canon.
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Everyone says that about characters that always have and will continue to be extremely boring.
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Telling everyone that new versions of the same characters can't be cool is boring too
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I wonder if they haven't revealed yet if this will be a web series or a tv series because they are still deciding which streaming service they want this to air on, I heard that Crunchyroll has some issues so I can't deduce anything, is it crazy to think that this could perhaps be streaming on the official DB website? Would this qualify as a "worldwide release"? (even if the site is only available in 5 languages)
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I wonder if they haven't revealed yet if this will be a web series or a tv series because they are still deciding which streaming service they want this to air on, I heard that Crunchyroll has some issues so I can't deduce anything, is it crazy to think that this could perhaps be streaming on the official DB website? Would this qualify as a "worldwide release"? (even if the site is only available in 5 languages)
I simply wouldn't want to imagine my life without Dragon Ball, thank you Akira Toriyama (1955-2024), you are now immortal.
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I'm not a fan of them turning into kids but I've read it's going to focus more on adventure and no transformations so I look forward to that part. It's coming out either way so I rather give it a chance than assume it's going to be bad before the first episode. If you don't like it after the first few episodes, I guess don't watch and support it. That's really the only option fans have. Occasional criticism is fine but if you hate everything about a series then spending your time and money on something else is a more effective approach. DBZ seems more popular so I still think this is a limited series for the 40th anniversary.ObnoxiousNamek wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:16 am I wonder about this franchise sometimes how did it become even more directionless? Near the end of the TOP leading to Broly it seemed it had finally found its footing a bit but man these past 6 years out of the upcoming 40 is probably the worse spot the franchise has ever been in. Declining toy sales, lowest viewership & interest, barely noticeable on trending, dogshit characters, art,designs, & writing Crappy CG running amok. i feel the only ones excited for this new series is just the oldhead fans & the only reason is because they can spite the "DEEBEEZEE" fans that they aren't getting what they wanted. Which i find funny cause i guarantee after some time has passed those same old fans acting like they love this will be making long winded tweets and video dissertations calling this crap also same thing happened with super shitro. Man i wish different ppl had the creative rights to Dragonball we wouldnt be in the mess we are in now
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ZeroNeonix wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:48 pmThere's nothing wrong with the characters. It's how they're used that matters. Same with Fu. I loved him in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, but in Super Dragon Ball Heroes, he's super boring and cliched. I think Toriyama could do something fun with them, if he wanted to.
I think you are both wrong. Boring characters will be boring characters. Hey, how about we replace them with more Jirens and Gases types of characters instead? Fun orgasmically guaranteed...
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That is correct, the issue isn't the characters but how they are written. A character can change for the better or worse, without any explanation.ZeroNeonix wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:48 pmThere's nothing wrong with the characters. It's how they're used that matters. Same with Fu. I loved him in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, but in Super Dragon Ball Heroes, he's super boring and cliched. I think Toriyama could do something fun with them, if he wanted to. Kinda surprised they're still only sorta soft canon.
Just look at Goku in DBS he isn't anything like his DBZ version, which includes DB Manga when he is a adult. Amazing character in Z, but super lame in DBS.
My point is just because a character is boring, bad, lame, etc, in the past, that doesn't mean they have continue being like that in the future.
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DBS's Broly exists and he's more liked than DBZ's Broly by the major part of the fandom, so I don't see why the same couldn't be done to Mira and Towa.
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Since Yamamuro and his team took a break from the SDBH promo anime I wonder if he will be involved with the Daima episodes that haven't been made yet
Of course, that could scare many
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Since Yamamuro and his team took a break from the SDBH promo anime I wonder if he will be involved with the Daima episodes that haven't been made yet
Of course, that could scare many
I simply wouldn't want to imagine my life without Dragon Ball, thank you Akira Toriyama (1955-2024), you are now immortal.
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I already had a gut feeling that this wasn't going to be a long series the way the OG anime run, or Super was. Daima is apparently being done as a short run novelty kind of thing in order to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the franchise's beginning with that being the manga's debut in Weekly Shonen Jump back in December 1984. This isn't even the first time Toei has done a Dragon Ball animated project around an anniversary. As we previously had the Path to Power movie in 1996 to celebrate the anime's 10th anniversary (also contemporary to GT having premiered on TV just weeks earlier) and the JSAT/Yo! Son Goku and His Friends OVA in 2008 which was in honor of Shonen Jump's 40th anniversary in publication. There was also Kai being billed as such given it came out around the 20th anniversary of DBZ. So that is what this is in a similar vein, a fun short series to mark the big 4-0 of the original original version of the story.
Overall, the concept of this series isn't one that could be sustained over a long amount so it's fitting for what Daima is intended to be.....a series to mark a big anniversary of the franchise as a whole.
Overall, the concept of this series isn't one that could be sustained over a long amount so it's fitting for what Daima is intended to be.....a series to mark a big anniversary of the franchise as a whole.
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There's nothing that suggests that Daima will be some short count series, Ajay flat out said that the 15 episode thing was false and that the animators of Daima themselves don't even know what the actual episode count will be.SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:53 am I already had a gut feeling that this wasn't going to be a long series the way the OG anime run, or Super was. Daima is apparently being done as a short run novelty kind of thing in order to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the franchise's beginning with that being the manga's debut in Weekly Shonen Jump back in December 1984. This isn't even the first time Toei has done a Dragon Ball animated project around an anniversary. As we previously had the Path to Power movie in 1996 to celebrate the anime's 10th anniversary (also contemporary to GT having premiered on TV just weeks earlier) and the JSAT/Yo! Son Goku and His Friends OVA in 2008 which was in honor of Shonen Jump's 40th anniversary in publication. There was also Kai being billed as such given it came out around the 20th anniversary of DBZ. So that is what this is in a similar vein, a fun short series to mark the big 4-0 of the original original version of the story.
You're telling me that "Goku's adventures in space" a limiting concept?SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:53 am Overall, the concept of this series isn't one that could be sustained over a long amount so it's fitting for what Daima is intended to be.....a series to mark a big anniversary of the franchise as a whole.
Meanwhile the longest arc of the original run could be summed up as "Goku and friends fight a wizard and his pink genie for a day" while the longest arc in general is just "Goku and Co. train for 2 days, then fight in a 48 minute tournament"
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There's also nothing that suggests Daima will be a long running TV anime.shadd21 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:05 amThere's nothing that suggests that Daima will be some short count series, Ajay flat out said that the 15 episode thing was false and that the animators of Daima themselves don't even know what the actual episode count will be.SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:53 am I already had a gut feeling that this wasn't going to be a long series the way the OG anime run, or Super was. Daima is apparently being done as a short run novelty kind of thing in order to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the franchise's beginning with that being the manga's debut in Weekly Shonen Jump back in December 1984. This isn't even the first time Toei has done a Dragon Ball animated project around an anniversary. As we previously had the Path to Power movie in 1996 to celebrate the anime's 10th anniversary (also contemporary to GT having premiered on TV just weeks earlier) and the JSAT/Yo! Son Goku and His Friends OVA in 2008 which was in honor of Shonen Jump's 40th anniversary in publication. There was also Kai being billed as such given it came out around the 20th anniversary of DBZ. So that is what this is in a similar vein, a fun short series to mark the big 4-0 of the original original version of the story.
You're telling me that "Goku's adventures in space" a limiting concept?SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:53 am Overall, the concept of this series isn't one that could be sustained over a long amount so it's fitting for what Daima is intended to be.....a series to mark a big anniversary of the franchise as a whole.
Meanwhile the longest arc of the original run could be summed up as "Goku and friends fight a wizard and his pink genie for a day" while the longest arc in general is just "Goku and Co. train for 2 days, then fight in a 48 minute tournament"
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Under that logic NOTHING would be discussed since no one has any proof of ANYTHING.
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So do we know if it will take place after Super Hero, after Broly or before BoG? Because Bulma's design, and the ages of Goten, Trunks and Marron seem to point towards it being before Super Hero at least and before Resurrection F at most (because of Bulma's hairstyle being the Buu arc-BoG hair).
I would prefer it to be after Super Hero to move forward but it seems unlikely.
I would prefer it to be after Super Hero to move forward but it seems unlikely.
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I dont remember if it was here, but I remember reading something about the staff and Toriyama really liking doing the work for Daima and because of that they wanted to extend its original lent?
I'm not sure maybe I'm missremembering and it was just someone speculation.
I'm not sure maybe I'm missremembering and it was just someone speculation.
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A franchise needs to create a new series every so often, like TMNT, Scooby, The smurfs, and that can been seen even in the videogame industry as well: call of duty, assassins creed, god of war you name it.., My point is we should be thankful Dragon Ball is still being considered as one of the most important franchises in Japan.SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:53 am I already had a gut feeling that this wasn't going to be a long series the way the OG anime run, or Super was. Daima is apparently being done as a short run novelty kind of thing in order to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the franchise's beginning with that being the manga's debut in Weekly Shonen Jump back in December 1984. This isn't even the first time Toei has done a Dragon Ball animated project around an anniversary. As we previously had the Path to Power movie in 1996 to celebrate the anime's 10th anniversary (also contemporary to GT having premiered on TV just weeks earlier) and the JSAT/Yo! Son Goku and His Friends OVA in 2008 which was in honor of Shonen Jump's 40th anniversary in publication. There was also Kai being billed as such given it came out around the 20th anniversary of DBZ. So that is what this is in a similar vein, a fun short series to mark the big 4-0 of the original original version of the story.
Overall, the concept of this series isn't one that could be sustained over a long amount so it's fitting for what Daima is intended to be.....a series to mark a big anniversary of the franchise as a whole.
And what you mentioned about not being a long series, I totally agree. In current times the majority of people are not willing to watch a long series. The most they do is to watch reviews of them. So yeah it would be a short series for sure. Probably 64 episodes.
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What's your point? At this point nothing really indicates it'll be long. If anything, it's the contrary but there's nothing sure. There can be discussions about the content. I like the videos saikyou Devin on YouTube has.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:45 am Under that logic NOTHING would be discussed since no one has any proof of ANYTHING.
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Then I must apologize, I thought you meant we shouldnt discuss anything until its proven. I am glad we can discuss what think or hope will happen then.sangofe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:11 amWhat's your point? At this point nothing really indicates it'll be long. If anything, it's the contrary but there's nothing sure. There can be discussions about the content. I like the videos saikyou Devin on YouTube has.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:45 am Under that logic NOTHING would be discussed since no one has any proof of ANYTHING.
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