How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

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How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

Post by TobyS » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:52 am

Black wishes to switch Bodies with Goku, kills goku, probably destroys the super dragonballs, probably destroys the regular DB's if he knows about them.

He flees to another timeline to get away from his timelines Beerus and other GOD's. We later see him observing Shin dying against Dabra and is pleased there is a timeline where Beerus is dead.

How would he know to go to Trunks timeline, and fast forward in time to where Beerus would be dead, how would he know what timeline and what point in time would be a good place to start?

My guess is he, knowing time travel is a sin, investigated the entire lifetime of all the Trunks's perhaps only starting with this one and getting lucky when he realises at some point Shin dies when fighting with Trunks.
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Re: How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:51 pm

He probably sense Shin's ki is gone and felt like it was the perfect time to strike. In the anime, it was heavy implied that Dabra killed Shin and Kibito as well. Trunks said "Many lives were lost on that day" meaning they got killed.
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Re: How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

Post by TobyS » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:59 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:51 pm He probably sense Shin's ki is gone and felt like it was the perfect time to strike. In the anime, it was heavy implied that Dabra killed Shin and Kibito as well. Trunks said "Many lives were lost on that day" meaning they got killed.
Right I get he can sense them being dead but how did he know to time jump to trunks area. Was he just jumping forward till he found a universe where a god dies? I get he'd check all timelines but to check the entire timestream Seems like an infinitely large job
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Re: How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:10 pm

I think he only checked the timelines that generated time rings. Aren't they the only ones that deviate from the rest of the timestream?
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Re: How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

Post by SupremeKai25 » Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:02 pm

TobyS wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:59 pm
Hellspawn28 wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:51 pm He probably sense Shin's ki is gone and felt like it was the perfect time to strike. In the anime, it was heavy implied that Dabra killed Shin and Kibito as well. Trunks said "Many lives were lost on that day" meaning they got killed.
Right I get he can sense them being dead but how did he know to time jump to trunks area. Was he just jumping forward till he found a universe where a god dies? I get he'd check all timelines but to check the entire timestream Seems like an infinitely large job
But they are Gods whose job is to oversee hundreds, if not thousands of planets across the Universe, some most certainly much larger than the Earth. Observing the rise of mortal life across the Universe, wouldn't that also be an "infinitely large job"? And yet the Supreme Kais do it.

Ultimately they are Gods, not mortals. Observing all the streams of time seems rather impossible for a mortal, but not for a God. We have plenty of Deities in fiction who have the power/ability to see all potential outcomes, all potential streams of time, it's not unheard of.

I mean, even in Dragon Ball you got Zamasu in Heroes who went to 99 different timelines to kill 99 different Gokus and be unchallenged.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Re: How did Black know Beerus was dead in Trunks timeline.

Post by TobyS » Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:11 am

SupremeKai25 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:02 pm
TobyS wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:59 pm
Hellspawn28 wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:51 pm He probably sense Shin's ki is gone and felt like it was the perfect time to strike. In the anime, it was heavy implied that Dabra killed Shin and Kibito as well. Trunks said "Many lives were lost on that day" meaning they got killed.
Right I get he can sense them being dead but how did he know to time jump to trunks area. Was he just jumping forward till he found a universe where a god dies? I get he'd check all timelines but to check the entire timestream Seems like an infinitely large job
But they are Gods whose job is to oversee hundreds, if not thousands of planets across the Universe, some most certainly much larger than the Earth. Observing the rise of mortal life across the Universe, wouldn't that also be an "infinitely large job"? And yet the Supreme Kais do it.

Ultimately they are Gods, not mortals. Observing all the streams of time seems rather impossible for a mortal, but not for a God. We have plenty of Deities in fiction who have the power/ability to see all potential outcomes, all potential streams of time, it's not unheard of.

I mean, even in Dragon Ball you got Zamasu in Heroes who went to 99 different timelines to kill 99 different Gokus and be unchallenged.
Now that you mention it Shin was able to find that one timelines future Zamas had done damage just as quickly so there's precedent for them easily being able to find these gaps and events in time if actively looking for them. I guess just a time ring and inhuman reaction speeds and ki sensing go a long way.
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