Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Yuji]

I assume this means Cell is unaffected too?

In DBM canon Boo is also still a Bibidi creation so he should be immune as well for being artificial?

[miguelnuva1]

If 17 and 18 are able to movie Cell and Buu should be able to. This is one of those things where the author wants a plot to happen so it does deapite not making sense.

[DragonicHero]

Nah, I think I can see where Salagir is going with this. The only people who can move in the time stop aren't the fully mechanical ones or artificial ones or whatever, it's only the people who have energy that isn't able to be sensed at all. This is running off of pre God-Ki stuff, so only the androids are unable to be sensed and thus only they are immune to the ability.
There's been signs all throughout DBM that Heliotes (Cybernetically enhanced) and Kaioshin can be sensed. And Cell could always be sensed.

[Lukmendes]

I've read this fanmanga for a very long time, but I only just recently realized that the whole character of Zen Buu is completely impossible if you're only using manga canon as your source for him. It's a little different in the anime, but in the manga, if you pay attention you'll see that Buu absolutely 100% doesn't get the memories of the people he absorbs, and there's all sorts of things showing that. The only thing he got from Piccolo is a change in personality to become more cunning and eloquent, but the thing was that Buu was never stupid in the first place.
- He specifically only ever refers to Gotenks as 'Super Gotenks' as if that was his name after absorbing him.
- He has no idea who Dende is and how Dende helped Gohan even though he had Piccolo absorbed.
- He has no idea who Goku is or what Super Saiyan is beyond saying "You're that guy with the weird transformations."

I realized this on a reread of the special where he just absorbs Bulma for little reason after going "Hmmm, you are very smart aren't you Bulma?" which he simply wouldn't do, (Nor would he suddenly decide he likes Earth now, to be fair, nor would Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks or Piccolo have survived Goku's self-detonation in that special either) There's also arguments to be made that he doesn't absorb even the techniques of the people he absorbs in the manga, as he only ever uses techniques he saw beforehand, and Buu can actually just copy techniques he sees.
I don't know, I just thought it was a little odd that the manga basically specifically goes out of its way to show that Buu doesn't get the memories of the people he absorbs.

Zen Buu creating infinite clones of himself was also not really in the manga, the only time something like it happens is after Vegeta's self destruction, even then the mini Fat Buu's priority is to become one again and they don't give any attention to Piccolo.

Super Buu himself even has to manually control whatever body parts were cut or he sent away, same thing for kid Buu (Though an anime filler had him dividing himself), so he has only one consciousness... And hell, DBM keeps that in mind since an U4 special had Super Buu not moving when fighting Goku and Vegeta within himself, something he wouldn't need to do if he really can do that kind of thing with his consciousness.

Even if one were to say he learned how to do that later, Fat Buu also briefly did that in his fight with Uub, despite not even seeing Zen Buu do that.

Salagir changes stuff like that, either because he didn't understand the original or felt like retconning (Which is something Toriyama himself used to do a bunch of times, with varying results of quality).

Another thing that is incompatible with the original manga is just, Super Saiyan 3... The idea that it lasts for less time the stronger you are is completely ridiculous... Nothing in the manga suggests this in any way, and Gotenks actually lasted longer as a SS3 than Goku.

Also Salagir deciding to say the fat Kaioshin destroyed his own mind before being absorbed is, silly, since fat Buu was never as stupid as he looked, which's even what helped make him dangerous...

[Regarder]

If 17 and 18 are able to movie Cell and Buu should be able to. This is one of those things where the author wants a plot to happen so it does deapite not making sense.

It might be based off their energy source. Even if 17 and 18 are altered biological beings, their infinite energy reactor is something different from Cell. Maybe that's the secret. I'K'L doesn't seem to know exactly why it's not working and is speculating along with us. He's just learned that cyborgs are also unaffected.

[Noah]

Yeah, it could say this whole plot could turn out to be very entertaining, but until it's not, for me is another excuse to delay the actual tournament.

It should not take 15 years to finally see this thing.

It actually amuses me that this fanmanga is actually older in its runtime than the original manga.

[Lukmendes]

Nah, I think I can see where Salagir is going with this. The only people who can move in the time stop aren't the fully mechanical ones or artificial ones or whatever, it's only the people who have energy that isn't able to be sensed at all. This is running off of pre God-Ki stuff, so only the androids are unable to be sensed and thus only they are immune to the ability.
There's been signs all throughout DBM that Heliotes (Cybernetically enhanced) and Kaioshin can be sensed. And Cell could always be sensed.

Not to mention that DBM did talk about the androids being more mechanical to the point they need to be repaired or they'll get weaker, so I see the basic logic, but considering 18 is still biological enough to have a kid, it is headache inducing to imagine why 17/18/Yamcha can still move... Better not overthink this much lol.

Yeah, it could say this whole plot could turn out to be very entertaining, but until it's not, for me is another excuse to delay the actual tournament.

Salagir is basically coming up with gimmicks outside the tournaments for other characters to fight once in a while.

First rebellion was technically Zen Buu trying to get Broly, this allowed U16 their time to shine.

Second one was Zen Buu again, with Vegetto out of the picture this time, though that one amounted to "Zen Buu overwhelms everyone and Gast quickly ended it".

Third one was Babidi's, and it removed most participants, so aside from Gohans and Heliotes, there was no one in SS2 level or above on the good guys' side, and on the bad guys' side it was only Cell, Cell Juniors and Buu on the same level or above SS2 level, so it was mostly weaker heroes and weaker villains fighting.

Fourth one, Zen Buu once again, and only Gast was out.

Now this, biological beings are out so it's basically a battle of robots.

So yeah, while the constant rebellions are repetitive, at least there's a different flavor by removing key players once in a while.

Wonder what the hell Vegetto's rebellion will be about, might happen soon after XXI vs Gast... Or maybe even soon after I'K'L's just to delay it as much as possible.

It actually amuses me that this fanmanga is actually older in its runtime than the original manga.

DBM outlived TFS and Super's anime too lol.

It might even outlive Super's manga as well...

[DragonicHero]

What happened to the guy that posts all the new pages? Did the inherent silliness of Vegito becoming a joke character and literally getting folded in half by some random hax ability make them give up?
To be fair, despite this being a part of the "main story" this feels like just as much of a waste of time as even the lamest special. We already know Yamcha has to win.

[FoolsGil]

What happened to the guy that posts all the new pages? Did the inherent silliness of Vegito becoming a joke character and literally getting folded in half by some random hax ability make them give up?
To be fair, despite this being a part of the "main story" this feels like just as much of a waste of time as even the lamest special. We already know Yamcha has to win.

It wasn't Vegetto, I'm neutral to that actually. But the tournament getting interrupted yet again, by yet another homicidal antagonist was my last straw.

[theherodjl]

So this comic is probably going to take another few years to conclude, I take it? Given that it started in 2008 and it's 2024 now, DBM may very well see itself end on it's 20-year-anniversary. I gotta say, it's honestly quite a feat to draw out a fancomic that lasts a few days in-universe, to about two decades in the real world. The dedication behind it is as impressive as it is absurdly-tedious, and I'm not honestly sure where it stands on being a good thing or a bad thing.
I guess we'll have to see if history will vindicate this fancomic's runtime.

[goku1234]

[ZeroNeonix]

Is this when Cell jumps in? lol

Can't think of anyone else who would be immune to this power, except maybe Zen Buu, who IIRC is in his own pocket dimension. Maybe he wasn't affected because he wasn't there.

[Bardock God of Time]

Yamcha could still be more powerful than him but it does seem like I'K'L is faster

[Lukmendes]

So this comic is probably going to take another few years to conclude, I take it? Given that it started in 2008 and it's 2024 now, DBM may very well see itself end on it's 20-year-anniversary. I gotta say, it's honestly quite a feat to draw out a fancomic that lasts a few days in-universe, to about two decades in the real world. The dedication behind it is as impressive as it is absurdly-tedious, and I'm not honestly sure where it stands on being a good thing or a bad thing.
I guess we'll have to see if history will vindicate this fancomic's runtime.

It's honestly hilarious that in-universe, only 3 days have passed.

Is this when Cell jumps in? lol

Can't think of anyone else who would be immune to this power, except maybe Zen Buu, who IIRC is in his own pocket dimension. Maybe he wasn't affected because he wasn't there.

Zen Buu is gone, the pieces of him that was in the pocket dimension where he was training Uub was teleported too.

The story has been slowly removing the most overpowered characters for stuff like that to happen lol.

Yamcha could still be more powerful than him but it does seem like I'K'L is faster

There is that Bardock vision where Yamcha is talking to someone about how he defeated someone who was "the strongest in the universe", which means that Yamcha winning means he's even stronger... And it could be about I'K'L.

[Jack Bz]

Latest page is interesting for sure! Finally might get some insight as to what XXI is up to.

Yamcha's not gonna consent to killing someone he knows nothing about I'm guessing. Or XXI is going to break free and kill I'k'l.

[goku1234]

[goku1234]

[nineko]

They're pulling another special, that's it, I'm out.

[TobyS]

They're pulling another special, that's it, I'm out.

It's not the specials it the pointless everyone dies as we already know edgy torture porn.

Like watching teen gohan train to get killed by the androids anyway is fucking depressing and pointless.

[goku1234]