Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
super michael
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1410
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:05 am

Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by super michael » Fri May 31, 2024 6:29 am

Here are the options:
  • The anime can just animate the Moro, Granolah and DBS Heroes chapter
  • The anime does chapter 1 till present, basically all the chapter
Dragon Ball Super is what we have, they can have another called Dragon Ball Super Manga Edition an example or any other name.

User avatar
SupremeKai25
I Live Here
Posts: 4661
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:40 am

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by SupremeKai25 » Fri May 31, 2024 6:37 am

I don't understand. Are you asking if the Anime should animate only the manga-only arcs left, or if it should start from scratch and animate the first 3 manga arcs too?

In that case, obviously the first option. I don't see the point nor value in adapting an inferior/rushed version of the arcs that we already know everything about for years.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro

User avatar
super michael
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1410
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:05 am

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by super michael » Fri May 31, 2024 7:13 am

SupremeKai25 wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:37 am I don't understand. Are you asking if the Anime should animate only the manga-only arcs left, or if it should start from scratch and animate the first 3 manga arcs too?

In that case, obviously the first option. I don't see the point nor value in adapting an inferior/rushed version of the arcs that we already know everything about for years.
That is correct animate only the missing chapter, such as Moro, Granolah and DBS Super Hero or the whole thing from chapter 1.

I like the idea of only animating the missing chapter, so it will take less time to see them as anime.
However if they animate the whole thing, then the anime will have less bad writing such as less dumb Goku an example.

User avatar
Xeogran
I Live Here
Posts: 3184
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:04 am
Contact:

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by Xeogran » Fri May 31, 2024 7:37 am

Adapt it all so that the Mario Kart chapter gets animated 8)

User avatar
super michael
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1410
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:05 am

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by super michael » Fri May 31, 2024 8:15 am

Xeogran wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 7:37 am Adapt it all so that the Mario Kart chapter gets animated 8)
Actually that would be cool, I did like how the gang were racing in a Mario Kart game. I believe Trunks won came out first in the game.

User avatar
SupremeKai25
I Live Here
Posts: 4661
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:40 am

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by SupremeKai25 » Fri May 31, 2024 9:27 am

super michael wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 7:13 am
SupremeKai25 wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:37 am I don't understand. Are you asking if the Anime should animate only the manga-only arcs left, or if it should start from scratch and animate the first 3 manga arcs too?

In that case, obviously the first option. I don't see the point nor value in adapting an inferior/rushed version of the arcs that we already know everything about for years.
That is correct animate only the missing chapter, such as Moro, Granolah and DBS Super Hero or the whole thing from chapter 1.

I like the idea of only animating the missing chapter, so it will take less time to see them as anime.
However if they animate the whole thing, then the anime will have less bad writing such as less dumb Goku an example.
Again, I don't see the value of animating three arcs... that are already in animated form. Also, the average viewer doesn't care about writing, they only care about watching cool stuff, which the Super Anime provides in abundance as it is.

But frankly you should expect changes to the Moro and Granolah arcs too and not just a copy-pasted adaptation, because that is what the pedigree for Super shows us.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro

User avatar
Jack Bz
Regular
Posts: 584
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:44 pm

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by Jack Bz » Fri May 31, 2024 9:49 am

I would love to see the ToP arc animated as it's so different (and in my opinion the manga of this arc is SO much better). The GoD battle royale, Gohan vs Kefla (expanding this would be great), Roshi teaching Goku etc all have great potential. It almost definitely wouldn't feel too slow paced as well. Would love to see it!

I'd like to see the U6 tournament animated just to have better production values rather than because the manga is wildly better. The anime was still in a very rough spot animation-wise during most of this arc.

Zamasu arc I could take or leave. Probably the only arc where I'm not totally decided which one I prefer. I prefer what the manga does on paper but think Goku Black is a much more interestingly portrayed character in the anime.

In a world with infinite time and resources I'd say adapt it all.

Rafa Fast
Regular
Posts: 522
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:18 pm

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by Rafa Fast » Fri May 31, 2024 4:24 pm

While I really would like to see a ultimate version of Super where they would mix the best of the anime and the best of the manga and give better visuals and animation to it, I think the best is to indeed just start with Moro, it's better commercially as well.

But I would like to see Toei trying to be original again, I know most people celebrate that a anime version of Moro and Granolla would be accurate to the manga because now Toei has material to adapt, but I really liked how the anime and manga were very different, I just really missed some awesome manga exclusive stuff such as Goku and Vegeta using SSJ God or Muten Roshi fighting Jiren etc. Would like them to keep everything that is great in Moro, Granolla and Super Hero but change what wasn't very good, and Super Hero would be 2D animation of course, would make it feel even more special and different.

Also, what about Broly? If option 1 happens, there will be no Broly arc, and if option 2 happens, there will be also no Broly arc, because you say that they would adapt the manga, and the manga doesn't have the Broly story, that means that Broly would be the only Super Story to be available in just one media format (Movie), and option 2 would just straight give us 4 versions of Battle of Gods :lol:
I simply wouldn't want to imagine my life without Dragon Ball, thank you Akira Toriyama (1955-2024), you are now immortal ~☆

User avatar
TobyS
I Live Here
Posts: 2607
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:11 pm

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by TobyS » Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:46 am

I'd love to see a super kai that follows the manga, but I don't see the fanbase wanting to go through bog and rof again, even for the superior black arc and lowkey superior top arc.

I'm shocked they haven't adapted moro and granola tho. Seems like a waste regardless of if you like it, it's free storyboards and plots. Seems like a no brainer.

I'd love a db heroes kai that adapts the manga there.
God in base is dead - Nietzsche

Dragonball Lore Deep Dive Part 1: Cosmology
viewtopic.php?t=49125

User avatar
GokuHater
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 167
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:46 am

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by GokuHater » Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:36 am

Whaaa... ?

Do you mean anime should go back to square 1 and animate ALL of the arcs again?

HECK NO!
I would like to remind you we already have 3 versions of BoG, 3 versions of RoF of which 2 are highly inferior. Why would you like a fourth version?

I guess a remake would make sense but no earlier than in a few years. If they gave Super the Kai treatment. Repaired animations, art and streamlined it. Still, it is too early for such a thing now.

User avatar
JulieYBM
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 17637
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:25 pm
Location: 🏳️‍⚧️🍉

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:46 am

I'd love more remakes, they just need to focus on being good, not on copying something else. You can, in fact, do better than Toriyama Akira.
💙💜💖 She/Her 💙💜💖
💙💜💖 Don't forget to take your estrogen! 💙💜💖

User avatar
Trouser
Regular
Posts: 521
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 am
Location: Capsule Corp.

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by Trouser » Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:02 pm

I think animating only Moro and Granolah's arcs would make the original DBS anime even more of a stupid mess than it already is.

The best way to go is to animate manga 1:1 starting from chapter 1. Manga is bad and sometimes very stupid but still better than Toei's anime, so if I must choose a better version of the DBS crap I would like to have animated manga events.
"If it means having to live under your control, I'd rather be dead!" - Trunks to Baby
English is not my first language, if I've made a mistake, please, feel free to correct me. It will help, thanks.

User avatar
SupremeKai25
I Live Here
Posts: 4661
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:40 am

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by SupremeKai25 » Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:19 pm

Trouser wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:02 pm I think animating only Moro and Granolah's arcs would make the original DBS anime even more of a stupid mess than it already is.
Can you explain what you mean? This makes no sense. The Moro arc literally takes place after the ToP arc, it is the logical continuation after ep. 131. The Broly movie is in-between but everyone has already seen it anyway so the Anime doesn't need to retell it.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro

User avatar
PurestEvil
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1951
Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:34 pm
Location: Constantinopolee!

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by PurestEvil » Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:43 am

I would be completely fine with the anime adapting the manga arcs after the ToP, as long as they are written or paced better.

Althoooough considering how the anime was beforehand, I am not too confident that would happen.
This post was brought to you by 魔族

Rest in Peace, Toriyama-san

theherodjl
I Live Here
Posts: 2279
Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:12 pm
Location: The Planes of Lexington

Re: Should the anime only make the manga exclusive chapter or make a new anime that does the whole chapter

Post by theherodjl » Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:00 pm

It would be very tedious to make another anime depiction of Super when Toei already has one, I'd honestly would rather see Moro & Granolah's arcs get animated and see what kind of spin that the anime staff could put on it. They could maybe insert more of a connection between the two arcs than what the manga did, like how 7-3's memories reveal how he got stolen from the lab he was built in by Moro's minions, and what the Heeters were up to during the Moro arc? Toei can be quite creative with material that occurs in-between major events that Toriyama laid down.
"Why is a raven like a writing desk?" - The Mad Hatter :think:

Post Reply