Dragon Ball Daima trailer, October release date announced

[Xeogran]

Spoiler:

- The reason why Kibito Kai doesn't exist anymore is because Majin Buu absorbed him just like he did with Vegito.

Spoiler:

Wow, that's wild. So are they gonna fuse back after Daima? And why in Super they wasted a wish to defuse, if Buu can do that for free? And Buu's Insides DO defuse after all? So it wasn't Vegetto's time running out even in Z?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Spoiler:

- The reason why Kibito Kai doesn't exist anymore is because Majin Buu absorbed him just like he did with Vegito.

Spoiler:

Wow, that's wild. So are they gonna fuse back after Daima? And why in Super they wasted a wish to defuse, if Buu can do that for free? And Buu's Insides DO defuse after all? So it wasn't Vegetto's time running out even in Z?

Spoiler:

More retcons? That is slightly worrying, but hopefully as we get into the series it will all make sense.

[Noah]

Trying to take a different approach here from the mixed feelings some people have about this new animated series:
"It seems well-made, but the premise (chibi characters) isn’t all that appealing."

I’ll say that I’m only really excited because it’s Toriyama’s last project (while alive) related to Dragon Ball, even though I’ve said many times on this forum that that doesn’t guarantee it’ll be something good. But I’m curious, mainly because I feel like he might have been more excited than usual for this one’s production.

Now, on a more generic note: I knew it would be impossible for Super Saiyan to be absent from this new series. It’s too iconic of a transformation to be left out of anything DB-related these days. I remember laughing back in 2015 when people were theorizing that RoF would be an entire movie with Base Goku and Vegeta fighting Freeza, which would’ve made no sense since the franchise always has to sell toys, preferably for new and shiny transformations, like what happened with that movie. I imagine Daima won’t escape from having an exclusive form either, just hope it’s not another damn recolor.

So, how many episodes are we expecting Daima to have? 12 episodes? 24 episodes?

It can be as long as it wants to be. It could be longer than Super was.

Not even you believe they can sustain this premise with this level of animation for more than 131 episodes.

[MisteryOne]

Spoiler:

- The series takes place after the death of Kid Buu.
- There is a party for Trunks' 9th birthday.
- The reason why Kibito Kai doesn't exist anymore is because Majin Buu absorbed him just like he did with Vegito.

Amazing. They retconned a retcon, making it pointless. And now it can't even be in the same canon as Super, where Vegetto defuses in both versions.
You gotta love this franchise. We could have gotten crazy things like chibi UI but here we are.

[Jord]

It being "Toriyama's last project" doesn't magically make it better. Toriyama's last big project before it was DBS and look how that turned out. It was miles below the standards of his previous work and they pulled the plug on that show after around 130 episodes because it wasn't profitable enough. That's only double the amount of GT's episodes and while that show came at the tail end of the original run, Super came after a drought of around 20 years.

Daima does at least have the curiosity factor behind it, just to see how much they will copy from GT.

[Zephyr]

they pulled the plug on that show after around 130 episodes because it wasn't profitable enough.

Is that what they said?

[Jord]

they pulled the plug on that show after around 130 episodes because it wasn't profitable enough.

Is that what they said?

It's business 101. The anime cost a lot of money to make and it's basically used to promote the brand. Not only by selling the anime itself, but also video games, merch etc. They figured that if they cancelled the series, they would still make more than enough money on the brand, without having to produce an expensive show. And they were right, since even after cancellation of the anime, the brand still recorded huge profits.

[TechExpert2021]

Daima does at least have the curiosity factor behind it, just to see how much they will copy from GT.

Probably the reason fans refer to Daima as "GT 2.0".

[Zephyr]

they pulled the plug on that show after around 130 episodes because it wasn't profitable enough.

Is that what they said?

It's business 101. The anime cost a lot of money to make and it's basically used to promote the brand. Not only by selling the anime itself, but also video games, merch etc. They figured that if they cancelled the series, they would still make more than enough money on the brand, without having to produce an expensive show. And they were right, since even after cancellation of the anime, the brand still recorded huge profits.

Okay so it's speculation and not what they said, got it.

[Koitsukai]

they pulled the plug on that show after around 130 episodes because it wasn't profitable enough.

Citation needed.

[Jord]

Is that what they said?

It's business 101. The anime cost a lot of money to make and it's basically used to promote the brand. Not only by selling the anime itself, but also video games, merch etc. They figured that if they cancelled the series, they would still make more than enough money on the brand, without having to produce an expensive show. And they were right, since even after cancellation of the anime, the brand still recorded huge profits.

Okay so it's speculation and not what they said, got it.

There is no speculation. It got cancelled. If the show made them enough money, they would have continued it.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Sure a weekly anime is expensive to produce, but all a show has to do is turn a profit, which Dragon Ball Super surely did.

Based on what Ajay told us it seemed a lot of animators were under the impression in 2019 that Super would be returning. Companies change plans all the time, TOEI are no different.

I'm sure the rights dispute hasn't helped matters with Shueshia and Akio Iyoku having different priorities. I suspect were getting Daima because Iyoku has been pushing to bring back the anime for years and Shueshia begrudgingly agreed to a new project to celebrate the franchises 40th anniversary. I'm guessing he will keep trying to make Super 2.0 happen and Daima could help if it can exceed expectations.

[Luso Saiyan]

There is no speculation. It got cancelled. If the show made them enough money, they would have continued it.

Your speculative conclusion is based on a false premise.

So yes, it is speculation.

[JulieYBM]

The production committee members coming to the conclusion that they need to end the weekly television series is really all there is to it. There was a new movie on the horizon, too, so it isn't like there wasn't still movement going on.

[The Monkey King]

It's business 101. The anime cost a lot of money to make and it's basically used to promote the brand. Not only by selling the anime itself, but also video games, merch etc. They figured that if they cancelled the series, they would still make more than enough money on the brand, without having to produce an expensive show. And they were right, since even after cancellation of the anime, the brand still recorded huge profits.

So in other words the anime ended because it did its job? Making the brand of Dragon Ball very profitable again, thereby making it a success for Toei.

It's actually hilarious, you've been making the same tired, biased, chip-on-your-shoulder "argument" for years now (did DBS episode 5 burn your house down?) but you never compare how much money the Dragon Ball brand was making before and after the airing of the DBS anime.

You know you're entire "argument" would fall to pieces if you did, so you've always just conveniently ignored it. There's a reason why no one in this thread is taking you seriously

The truth is, last year (2018), Dragon Ball was the highest-selling franchise for the Bandai Namco group, with about 120 billion yen worth of sales. That’s even higher than Mobile Suit Gundam, you know.

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... ew-part-2/

Hmmmmmmm... I wonder why Dragon Ball was so amazingly popular in 2018, it couldn't have been that anime that "wasn't profitable enough" Dragon Ball Super, no way!

Executives like Torishima know that a brand like Dragon Ball doesn't need an anime at all times and can be profitable through nostalgia as a primary factor. It was only in 2007, 10 years after the finale of GT did he call on Toriyama and request that he write a new anime in order for its waning merchandising sales to pick back up.

[Zephyr]

There is no speculation. It got cancelled. If the show made them enough money, they would have continued it.

Until someone representing one of the relevant companies comes forward and says outright why Super ended, then, yes, you are speculating.

[Jord]

Let's not divert too much from the topic at hand. This is after all my Daima topic and the show is about to begin.
What I'm wondering about is what they will do after the first season. How much has been planned ahead. Are there outlines for a second or third season?
(Assuming it's a success of course)

[JulieYBM]

Daima is only going to be a single season. There's very little likelihood that a project developed for the 49th anniversary of the original comic will last longer than a single planned further. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that Toriyama would have had the time to develop a second or third conflict.

[Jord]

That makes me a bit more interested since you would think it would be self contained, allowing for the writers to write towards an ending without too much filler.

[The Monkey King]

Spoiler:

- The series takes place after the death of Kid Buu.
- There is a party for Trunks' 9th birthday.
- The reason why Kibito Kai doesn't exist anymore is because Majin Buu absorbed him just like he did with Vegito.

Spoiler:

When does this get revealed? Episode 1?