Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 1 - Official Discussion Thread

[AliTheZombie13]

I owe the episode a re-watch, but to be honest, I do not specifically remember why Gomah is so afraid of Gokuu and friends being a threat to his reign when from all signs it seems like they don't care.

If memory doesn't fail me, Shin's sister (don't remember her name, Asurin?) told him something like, "Oh, but imagine if these guys come attacking us one of these days, Ohohohoho." Aaaaaand that was it.

[Gashaponista]

Wow! What a beautiful episode! I won't detail anything, because I would literally mention everything they gave us.

I'm very surprised by people complaining about the recap at the beginning, I could have watched hours of it without getting bored one bit, I was fascinated by every second!

PS: I'm glad we're so far away from that Moro and Granolah filler garbage haha

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I owe the episode a re-watch, but to be honest, I do not specifically remember why Gomah is so afraid of Gokuu and friends being a threat to his reign when from all signs it seems like they don't care.

Gomah doesn't know what Goku & Co goals are so he jumps the gun and wrongly assumes that they have interest in the Demon Realm.

[Trouser]

I like the fact that Daima ignores Super so far. This is a huge plus. I hope it's separated from the Super till the end.

[ZombieVito]

I like the fact that Daima ignores Super so far. This is a huge plus. I hope it's separated from the Super till the end.

They did mention universe 7.

[Grimlock]

Honestly, I actually really like the idea that many different Mortal races in the Universes were originally Demons who emigrated out of the Demon Realm.

It adds that extra little bit of variety to the worldbuilding that's not important but is nice to have in the background for fans to mull over.

Oh, but it most certainly is important. Getting to know the origins, background, explanation and all that will always be important. No matter what.

That said, I also like that idea. As I also like that they refer to the Universe as "external world", that implies the Demon Realm is the "internal world" (which also ties to what Toriyama said, that not even Kaioshins know what happens there. Hence the necessity to have another set of gods...) So it could be used as a place of origin for a lot of things. I don't know what to make of "three Demon Realms", though.

[JulieYBM]

If memory doesn't fail me, Shin's sister (don't remember her name, Asurin?) told him something like, "Oh, but imagine if these guys come attacking us one of these days, Ohohohoho." Aaaaaand that was it.

Gomah doesn't know what Goku & Co goals are so he jumps the gun and wrongly assumes that they have interest in the Demon Realm.

Oh, there we go, then. Still, it'll be interesting to see how exactly this all culminates from here on out, since we have 25-ish epsisodes remaining.

[supersaiyamangod]

What the heck a wish made fat buu good?

[Lance Freeman]

Thank you, production, so much for clearly establishing a timeline for when this takes place. Trunks is 9 now? The Dragon Balls are inactive? It's much more clear cut than early Super's "I guess it takes place around Battle of Gods? Maybe? So all those Buu saga related plot threads took multiple years in universe to play out?".

[Noah]

I though Goku would venture with Shin in the Earth in their current chibi forms, but know I figure it out they will go to the Demon Realm? That's makes things more exciting.

On other note, the design of Gomah is the same used for the guy who asked the PIN for they to leave and the other one who asked which Universe they wanted to go? It felt a little bit lazy.

I'm not sure anyone really cares about this information, but apparently sound effects for this episode were provided/created by Kentaro Washio, not Hidenori Arai, though Washio is Arai's assistant. I haven't really been a fan of Arai's current output on stuff like One Piece, so hopefully Washio's sound design for Daima turns out pretty good. I liked what I heard in this episode, so I hope he keep this up.

Actually I do care. I didn't much the SFX from DBS, they felt very off to me. Dragon Ball for me is Hidenori Arai SFX all the way through, that's why most games still uses it.

Even if Kibito and Shin do fuse again, why wouldn't they just go back into Boo to unfuse? It seems strange that they'd use a valuable wish on the Dragon Balls for something they could do easily enough with Boo. That's the main problem I have with it. I'm guessing the writers will just say something like, "Oh, Boo was asleep at the time, so they couldn't unfuse through him," and leave it at that, even if it does feel like a cop-out.

I hope they go for that, cause it's kinda bad to start a new series with such a plot hole.

[BWri]

Huh, perhaps this exists completely separately of Super?

I'd prefer that actually. I think Super is too popular for that to be the case though.

[Mr Baggins]

Even with all the modern canon content currently available, watching this episode felt like being transported to an alternate timeline where the original series didn't end in 1995 and instead just picked up right after the Boo arc. I'm not even just talking about the timeline placement. This is so purposely irreverent and silly and fun and lore-dumpy all at the same time.

I wouldn't have it any other way. Loved every second, including the extensive recap.

Also, back when the Super manga just casually revealed that the Namekians came from another dimension, I've always had a nagging suspicion it was actually referring to the Demon Realm. So cool to see that confirmed. "Demon King Piccolo" truly wasn't just a title.

The Potara joke had me in tears.

[Cold Skin]

I was surprised that we didn't get a proper opening and ending. I was eager to discover them.
Maybe they didn't want the opening to reveal the concept of them being turned back to kids, which is presented as a end-of-episode twist despite being heavily advertised in all the promotional material and in the core concept of the show itself.

I sure hope to see a proper opening and ending next week!

About the canceled fusion, I was surprised but I'll wait until the series is over before I draw conclusions of incoherences or even Daima being set in a separate continuity than the main one. After all, DBZ movies never happened in the main continuity either and are still enjoyable with iconic stuff.
Many other things can happen in more than 20 episodes, and we won't know if they still hold in the future of the characters or not until it's over.

[JulieYBM]

I was surprised that we didn't get a proper opening and ending. I was eager to discover them.
Maybe they didn't want the opening to reveal the concept of them being turned back to kids, which is presented as a end-of-episode twist despite being heavily advertised in all the promotional material and in the core concept of the show itself.

I sure hope to see a proper opening and ending next week!

About the canceled fusion, I was surprised but I'll wait until the series is over before I draw conclusions of incoherences or even Daima being set in a separate continuity than the main one. After all, DBZ movies never happened in the main continuity either and are still enjoyable with iconic stuff.
Many other things can happen in more than 20 episodes, and we won't know if they still hold in the future of the characters or not until it's over.

A lot of modern anime save the Opening and Ending animation for the second episode so that the first episode can have a longer run time, so it makes sense that a more modern style series is doing this.

[Cold Skin]

^ Ah, thanks for the explanation! Can't wait to see them next week, then!

[nineko]

The animation quality is excellent, and the plot, while far from being a masterpiece, is definitely enjoyable (aside from the elephant in the room being the potara thing).

I still think I would have preferred a Super 2, but this isn't bad at all.

[TechExpert2021]

Is anyone here bothered by the official English subs of the first episode of Daima?

[Ajay]

Is anyone here bothered by the official English subs of the first episode of Daima?

Yeah, they are very clunky and awkward. I wish Toei would stop doing these in-house. It sucks to have to wait for the home release for better translations.

[Hellspawn28]

Gomah and Degesu in Trunks timeline probably saw Trunks kill Dabra and Babidi. They still probably don’t make their wish though.

[Grimlock]

And going by the present timeline, Dragon Ball Daima takes place one year after Majin Buu saga, which means an immediate follow-up to it. So in Trunks timeline, if we apply that immediate event, it should've happened to Trunks already. Prior to Goku Black's appearance. If that's the case, it would be odd that Trunks didn't mention it when Vegeta asked if it was Majin Buu who was causing mayhem there.

At any rate, Trunks now lives in another timeline, one that Zamasu will not show up, so Trunkses may be experiencing the Dragon Ball Daima events now (or they already did it). They know Porunga, so they can ask him to turn both Trunkses into kids.


(It took them decades to show us how Trunks experienced Majin Buu saga, but now we have new developments in the present that would be interesting to know how they happened in Trunks' timeline. At least the Tarble OVA should happen, give Trunks another family member that is alive, come on!).