Vegeta's Crew Cut

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Vegeta's Crew Cut

Post by Sentou Ryoku » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:56 pm

I've searched and searched and Googled some more, but I just can't find who EXACTLY was responsible for giving Vegeta his Colonel Guile look (with mustache) in DBGT. Was it Toriyama himself or Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru?

Also, how exactly does Earth razors affect Saiyan hair? Wouldn't it break?

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Re: Vegeta's Crew Cut

Post by Rocketman » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:10 am

Sentou Ryoku wrote:Also, how exactly does Earth razors affect Saiyan hair? Wouldn't it break?
Where'd you get this idea from?

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Post by Sentou Ryoku » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:13 am

When he shaved his mustache off

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:20 am

Sentou Ryoku wrote:When he shaved his mustache off
Huh, I guess I missed that episode. My bad.

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Post by Pain » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:24 am

Rocketman wrote:
Sentou Ryoku wrote:When he shaved his mustache off
Huh, I guess I missed that episode. My bad.
Plot hole. That's all I have to say.
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Post by Daburcor » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:35 am

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Post by Sentou Ryoku » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:32 am

Dammit Freddie Mercury! Seriously though, this Toriyama's intention to cut the hair short or was TOEI just taking artistic license. I know Toriyama designed kid Goku, Pan, Gil, and Trunks...who did the rest?

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Post by NeptuneKai » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:33 am

Sentou Ryoku wrote:Dammit Freddie Mercury! Seriously though, this Toriyama's intention to cut the hair short or was TOEI just taking artistic license. I know Toriyama designed kid Goku, Pan, Gil, and Trunks...who did the rest?
I'm also curious about this, to my knowledge I don't think Mr.Toriyama did Vegeta's redesign.
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Post by Captain Awesome » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:54 am

It doesn't help the bad haircut that the first time we see it, it's drawn horribly by one of the worst animation studios.

It annoys me less when Vegeta is drawn well.

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Post by The Time Traveller » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:18 am

He probably cut his hair with a machete, in one quick slice.

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Post by NeptuneKai » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:21 am

The Time Traveller wrote:He probably cut his hair with a machete, in one quick slice.
Maybe he had Trunks use that sword he got from Tapion?
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Post by TripleRach » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:08 pm

There's something in the Perfect Files about this, which I don't have quick access to at the moment, but I think it does say Toriyama designed him. I know it mentions that Toriyama's daughter hated the mustache, which was possibly an inspiration for Bra hating it.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:38 pm

TripleRach wrote:There's something in the Perfect Files about this, which I don't have quick access to at the moment, but I think it does say Toriyama designed him. I know it mentions that Toriyama's daughter hated the mustache, which was possibly an inspiration for Bra hating it.
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Post by Herms » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:55 pm

That picture doesn't mention anything about Toriyama desiging Vegeta's moustache'd form, but the caption has the thing about Bra saying his moustache didn't suit him and him then shaving it off.
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Post by TripleRach » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:27 pm

Yeah, that's not the part I meant. I just dug up my books, and there's a specific Q&A entry asking where the mustache went in the first PF. (Incidentally, it wasn't Toriyama's daughter, but the daughter of a relative of his. They do imply that this girl saying that it sucked got back to the anime staff and was hence the reason for Bra making him cut it... but then they say they can't guarantee the accuracy of that.)

But more importantly to the original question of the thread, there's a blurb in the first book's encyclopedia about Toriyama's original drafts of the characters, which not only shows drawings of all of the ones he designed (Vegeta is one of them), but mentions that the anime staff was particularly shocked by Vegeta's new design. He designed all of Gokuu and Vegeta's family members, plus Uub, Satan, and farmer Kuririn.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:29 pm

I rather like his design, actually. At least once the mustache is gone and his hair spikes start growing back.

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Post by SSj_Rambo » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:41 pm

TripleRach wrote:Yeah, that's not the part I meant. I just dug up my books, and there's a specific Q&A entry asking where the mustache went in the first PF. (Incidentally, it wasn't Toriyama's daughter, but the daughter of a relative of his. They do imply that this girl saying that it sucked got back to the anime staff and was hence the reason for Bra making him cut it... but then they say they can't guarantee the accuracy of that.)
What is the title of that book? It doesn't sound very accurate but it does seem interesting.
Rocketman wrote:I rather like his design, actually. At least once the mustache is gone and his hair spikes start growing back.
I agree, if they had to change Vegeta's physical appearance I say that is how they should have done it. Of course he would have looked better if they had left him how he was and avoided creating that major plot hole but hey, it's GT.

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:43 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:I agree, if they had to change Vegeta's physical appearance I say that is how they should have done it. Of course he would have looked better if they had left him how he was and avoided creating that major plot hole but hey, it's GT.
:?: What plot hole?

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Post by Herms » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:45 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:What is the title of that book? It doesn't sound very accurate but it does seem interesting.
She's talking about the two GT Perfect Files books. They're the official guidebooks to GT.
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Post by SSj_Rambo » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:09 pm

Rocketman wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:I agree, if they had to change Vegeta's physical appearance I say that is how they should have done it. Of course he would have looked better if they had left him how he was and avoided creating that major plot hole but hey, it's GT.
:?: What plot hole?
I could have sworn that at one point it was said that Saiya-jins cannot or do not cut their hair and they keep the same hair style throughout their life.

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