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Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14
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Date: January 17, 2025
Time: Around 11:40 p.m
Channel: Fuji TV
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Date: January 17, 2025
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Way too much time spent in the spaceship again, and of course it had to BREAK AGAIN =__=
At least it's the last world so they may not need it anymore, but Daima has overdone it.
Setup episode, no idea why Ginyu Force is being blatantly rehashed but at least the shopping part was kinda funny. Wish these guys had better designs, but they also look just like generic goons.
Meh, 3/10
At least it's the last world so they may not need it anymore, but Daima has overdone it.
Setup episode, no idea why Ginyu Force is being blatantly rehashed but at least the shopping part was kinda funny. Wish these guys had better designs, but they also look just like generic goons.
Meh, 3/10
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So, Goku falling the previous NEP was actually a fake-out to yet another "nothing" obstacle?!
What an exciting turn of events, an amazing twist no one ever saw coming!
Toriyama is such a master of deconstruction, subverting my expectations at every turn!

No, what I actually meant to say was:
This was YET ANOTHER "nothing" episode, filled with "nothing" obstacles, where nothing happened yet again, and we had more dumb exposition about the Demon Realm that contributes nothing to the story.
Just like I didn't care about the Special Forces Ginyu, I don't care about the Special Forces Beeruzyu.
They'll be yet another non-threat in this show filled with nothing.
Also, at this point, I'm calling it: Glorio has been intentionally breaking down the plane to avoid getting to the First Demon Realm. He's gonna pull a Giru. I can see it from a mile away. They're not very subtle about it.

What an exciting turn of events, an amazing twist no one ever saw coming!
Toriyama is such a master of deconstruction, subverting my expectations at every turn!

No, what I actually meant to say was:
This was YET ANOTHER "nothing" episode, filled with "nothing" obstacles, where nothing happened yet again, and we had more dumb exposition about the Demon Realm that contributes nothing to the story.
Just like I didn't care about the Special Forces Ginyu, I don't care about the Special Forces Beeruzyu.
They'll be yet another non-threat in this show filled with nothing.
Also, at this point, I'm calling it: Glorio has been intentionally breaking down the plane to avoid getting to the First Demon Realm. He's gonna pull a Giru. I can see it from a mile away. They're not very subtle about it.

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Good episode.
I was expecting a guardian of some sort since they showed Goku being "defeated". Good twist.
Neva has been built once more. Piccolo's line of a Namekian not being able to do that is intriguing.
The new Tokusentai fell a bit flat. I liked to see the new poses and dances but didn't really added much more than light comedy. Perhaps the Majin will look up to them now and come to their rescue latter?
Next episode seems like Hybis time to shine. Him having a Dragon Ball isn't a coincidence.
I was expecting a guardian of some sort since they showed Goku being "defeated". Good twist.
Neva has been built once more. Piccolo's line of a Namekian not being able to do that is intriguing.
The new Tokusentai fell a bit flat. I liked to see the new poses and dances but didn't really added much more than light comedy. Perhaps the Majin will look up to them now and come to their rescue latter?
Next episode seems like Hybis time to shine. Him having a Dragon Ball isn't a coincidence.
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Pretty good episode. Not much to say as it is mostly just setting the stage for this final world.
The scene where Neva undoes his seal was the highlight. He is much more substantial figure in the realm than we were led to believe. We now know he is the one that invented segregation. Will he receive comeuppance for this transgression? Maybe not...but time will tell what his role will be by the end of this show.
The Kempeitai Tokusetani I guess will be a gag threat unless they are powered up in some way. There are so many posing groups in DB especially in the new era. It is a tired joke that just chases the Ginyu nostalgia. That said they at least seem to be fairly colorful characters so it will be more interesting than the nameless grunts they confronted early on in this show.
The scene where Neva undoes his seal was the highlight. He is much more substantial figure in the realm than we were led to believe. We now know he is the one that invented segregation. Will he receive comeuppance for this transgression? Maybe not...but time will tell what his role will be by the end of this show.
The Kempeitai Tokusetani I guess will be a gag threat unless they are powered up in some way. There are so many posing groups in DB especially in the new era. It is a tired joke that just chases the Ginyu nostalgia. That said they at least seem to be fairly colorful characters so it will be more interesting than the nameless grunts they confronted early on in this show.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Eh, not the best episode, but not the worst either. At least, eons better than last week's. This was fun, it made me smile two or three times. My comment about Daima feeling too diluted still stands, however. I really hope someone is going to condense it a bit eventually, even as a fan project.
Not much to say about the plot, either. Looks like we're going to see some action next week. Hopefully.
Also: am I the only one who thinks that Neva should have disabled the lower shield first? Thank Kami that Goku fell at a ridiculously slow speed (and he regained consciousness on top of that), but...
Not much to say about the plot, either. Looks like we're going to see some action next week. Hopefully.
Also: am I the only one who thinks that Neva should have disabled the lower shield first? Thank Kami that Goku fell at a ridiculously slow speed (and he regained consciousness on top of that), but...
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Hmm...watching that I thought there would be more to talk about.
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Well, first off...even without the basic explanation of needing Neva to summon the Demon Dragon. Here's another conflict bypass-er...they definitely needed him here to solve this issue in the easiest way possible.
Also...wow, they really just let Goku fall, huh? For a really, really long time. Imagine he would've died if he fell faster and landed on the seal. Like no one wanted to go catch him at all?
And I was really hoping that, for maximum comedy, the ship would stay completely intact as it fell when they all decided to abandon it. To my pleasure that's exactly what ended up happening. Naturally it wasn't shot comedically, but it's still pretty funny...they literally didn't need to do that.
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Well, first off...even without the basic explanation of needing Neva to summon the Demon Dragon. Here's another conflict bypass-er...they definitely needed him here to solve this issue in the easiest way possible.
Also...wow, they really just let Goku fall, huh? For a really, really long time. Imagine he would've died if he fell faster and landed on the seal. Like no one wanted to go catch him at all?
And I was really hoping that, for maximum comedy, the ship would stay completely intact as it fell when they all decided to abandon it. To my pleasure that's exactly what ended up happening. Naturally it wasn't shot comedically, but it's still pretty funny...they literally didn't need to do that.
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Once again, crunchyroll's Prime Video channel is late with uploading the latest episode and I end up watching it on Viu TV thru VPN. Think I can just ditch Crunchyroll at this point.
Episode 14 is still not up at this point and it's 1:34pm as I type this.
Episode 14 is still not up at this point and it's 1:34pm as I type this.
The world is your's.
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
Guess we can't write off last week's episode as pure skippable filler after all.
I did like this one more than the previous two. The Ginyu bit is overdone by this point for sure; they even had Gomah blush after their introduction just like Freeza did! Do you remember!? Them getting carried away and just shooting random shit in the palace did get a genuine laugh out of me though. Also loved them interacting with Koo and Doo.
Gomah continues to embody this meme:

If he didn't wish for them to become kids and kidnap Dende, they'd never have come to the Demon Realm. If he never disabled Warp-sama, the barrier between realms would still be up. He is the instrument of his own destruction, and it is a reasonably funny irony.
Disappointed we probably won't get to see anymore vehicle troubles.
I did like this one more than the previous two. The Ginyu bit is overdone by this point for sure; they even had Gomah blush after their introduction just like Freeza did! Do you remember!? Them getting carried away and just shooting random shit in the palace did get a genuine laugh out of me though. Also loved them interacting with Koo and Doo.
Gomah continues to embody this meme:

If he didn't wish for them to become kids and kidnap Dende, they'd never have come to the Demon Realm. If he never disabled Warp-sama, the barrier between realms would still be up. He is the instrument of his own destruction, and it is a reasonably funny irony.
Disappointed we probably won't get to see anymore vehicle troubles.

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I for one am glad that they are finally ditching the plane, they never needed it to begin with and that was only further highlighted by the episodes end.
In all honesty I much preferred it when the team was just Goku, Panzy, Nahare and Glorio, I just feel like there were more interesting characters to meet and it felt like a more focused dynamic. Right now its too big of a crowd.
In all honesty I much preferred it when the team was just Goku, Panzy, Nahare and Glorio, I just feel like there were more interesting characters to meet and it felt like a more focused dynamic. Right now its too big of a crowd.
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The pull of “can’t make it out of here without a tokusatsu reference” was just too strong. They even rehashed the bit at the end of the Ginyu intro in the anime where the big bad in charge blushes awkwardly after the introduction. (Is it stealing if you’re lifting whole-sale from yourself?)
The grocery store bit felt like filler, but I guess the point was to differentiate these guys from the Ginyu Force? It’s been too long; was there a bit about Ginyu and chocolate bars for his subordinates in Z?
Goku did fall for what felt like an absurd amount of time. It was almost funny.
Despite their different goals, you could really tell Degesu and Shin are brothers this episode the way Degesu’s reacting to things.
I can see why they were going to show next week’s early at that now-cancelled Battle Hour; looks like a fight-heavy ep.
The grocery store bit felt like filler, but I guess the point was to differentiate these guys from the Ginyu Force? It’s been too long; was there a bit about Ginyu and chocolate bars for his subordinates in Z?
Goku did fall for what felt like an absurd amount of time. It was almost funny.
Despite their different goals, you could really tell Degesu and Shin are brothers this episode the way Degesu’s reacting to things.
I can see why they were going to show next week’s early at that now-cancelled Battle Hour; looks like a fight-heavy ep.
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
An episode that was a bit less slow than the previous one, but at least this one had some plot progression.
• So, not just because of Piccolo compliment, but can we confirm that Neva can almost do anything? I think it's too early to call him a "plot device" (even though today’s episode kinda showed that), but he's a Namekian who can not only create Dragon Balls but also super powerful guardians to protect them, boost their powers if needed, and even create shields to stop beings from moving between the different worlds in the Demon World? I’d say Freeza would've been toasted if Planet Namek had someone like Neva during his invasion
• Well, it wouldn’t be a new Dragon Ball series without a Ginyu Force reference, lol
• The scene with that squad with Kuu and Duu was cool, I was expecting something like them mocking the duo and that turning into a fight
• The ending of this episode and the NEP suggest that the next one will be pretty action-packed, so let’s hope so!
• So, not just because of Piccolo compliment, but can we confirm that Neva can almost do anything? I think it's too early to call him a "plot device" (even though today’s episode kinda showed that), but he's a Namekian who can not only create Dragon Balls but also super powerful guardians to protect them, boost their powers if needed, and even create shields to stop beings from moving between the different worlds in the Demon World? I’d say Freeza would've been toasted if Planet Namek had someone like Neva during his invasion
• Well, it wouldn’t be a new Dragon Ball series without a Ginyu Force reference, lol
• The scene with that squad with Kuu and Duu was cool, I was expecting something like them mocking the duo and that turning into a fight
• The ending of this episode and the NEP suggest that the next one will be pretty action-packed, so let’s hope so!
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
I don't trust these NEPs, they have proven time and again that the stakes or the action is not as good as they promise.
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Decent episode but Goku falling was terribly drawn out. I didn’t enjoy the Ginyu 2.0 gag, but Majin Koo and Doo continue to be the best part about Daima.
I really thought they were going to do more with the cast.
I agree. I feel the second group has little point being here. Bulma is being outdone by Panzy in her mechanic role - I thought they'd have a rivalry of some sort but they became friends right away. Vegeta is boring in almost every story post Boo and Piccolo has done nothing except say how great Neva is. On that note, did Shin even speak this episode?tonysoprano300 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:41 pm I for one am glad that they are finally ditching the plane, they never needed it to begin with and that was only further highlighted by the episodes end.
In all honesty I much preferred it when the team was just Goku, Panzy, Nahare and Glorio, I just feel like there were more interesting characters to meet and it felt like a more focused dynamic. Right now its too big of a crowd.
I really thought they were going to do more with the cast.
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I feel like the ending credits animation misled me into thinking there'd be more of Team A and B playing off of one another.
Kinto'un in the opening animation is probably a lie too (something leftover from earlier iterations). Not mad. Mildly disappointed.
Would've been neat to see which of the new cast could ride.
Kinto'un in the opening animation is probably a lie too (something leftover from earlier iterations). Not mad. Mildly disappointed.
Would've been neat to see which of the new cast could ride.
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 14 - Official Discussion Thread
There's that terrible ending editing again... They really don't know how to cap off an episode satisfyingly lol
Sadly, another meh episode but I can't say I was annoyed like last week.
As soon as I heard the word Sentai I was like oh no... And my fears were true lol, full sequence and everything and it felt like it dragged far too long. I didn't understand the grocery shop bit, so they couldn't afford to pay for everything and had to resort to buying two chocolates... But left with full grocery bags? So what they had enough to buy their own, but not all the chocolate? To me the joke doesn't really work if that's the case or is a lot worse, so they are half-rich?
Goku fell for what felt like whatever considering he was unconscious. Neva didn't even clear out the bottom portal first lol I don't know just why are decisions like this being made?
Only highlights of this episode for me were seeing Kuu and Duu again and the whole Vegeta carrying Bulma bit (and pansy being happy to get praise from Glorio was cute too).
We need a strong episode next week to shake off these two weaker episodes.
Sadly, another meh episode but I can't say I was annoyed like last week.
As soon as I heard the word Sentai I was like oh no... And my fears were true lol, full sequence and everything and it felt like it dragged far too long. I didn't understand the grocery shop bit, so they couldn't afford to pay for everything and had to resort to buying two chocolates... But left with full grocery bags? So what they had enough to buy their own, but not all the chocolate? To me the joke doesn't really work if that's the case or is a lot worse, so they are half-rich?
Goku fell for what felt like whatever considering he was unconscious. Neva didn't even clear out the bottom portal first lol I don't know just why are decisions like this being made?
Only highlights of this episode for me were seeing Kuu and Duu again and the whole Vegeta carrying Bulma bit (and pansy being happy to get praise from Glorio was cute too).
We need a strong episode next week to shake off these two weaker episodes.
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Now this one was quite the setup episode, laying the foundations for this exploration of the First Demon World like the Gendarmarie Force and the good guys finally making it thanks to Neva.
Neva really stands out given just how much he can do and has done. Makes me wonder if maybe he's not just an experienced Namekian elder but rather something more, akin to a Namekian god of sorts instead.
Neva really stands out given just how much he can do and has done. Makes me wonder if maybe he's not just an experienced Namekian elder but rather something more, akin to a Namekian god of sorts instead.
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The convenience store bit was fun, but this episode really just does not feel like anything is happening. I figured that things would take off here, but I guess that will happen in Episode #15, judging by the preview?
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I don't even think the Supreme Kai "talked" this episode.tonysoprano300 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:41 pm I for one am glad that they are finally ditching the plane, they never needed it to begin with and that was only further highlighted by the episodes end.
In all honesty I much preferred it when the team was just Goku, Panzy, Nahare and Glorio, I just feel like there were more interesting characters to meet and it felt like a more focused dynamic. Right now its too big of a crowd.
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I think I agree with you with the smaller group. It doesn't seem like we need Vegeta or Piccolo for anything really. As cool as SSJ3 was Goku could have done the same thing.