Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[Almighty Majin]

Redoing Goku power levels:

Spoiler:

Birth: 2
Pre-Training: 5
Grandpa Gohan Training: 10
Post-Yamcha Fight: 12
Oozaru: 120
No Tail: 8
Master Roshi Training: 50
Tail Regrown: 60
Oozaru: 600
Post-Roshi Fight: 65
Post-Tao Fight: 70
Korin Training: 125
3 Years Training: 180
Post-Tien Fight: 190
Post-King Piccolo Fight: 200
Ultra Divine Water: 260
Post-King Piccolo Rematch: 270
Kami Training (Weighted): 280
Unweighted: 350
Post-Piccolo Fight: 360
5 Years Later (Weighted): 336
Unweighted: 416
King Kai Training: 8,000
Kaioken x2: 16,000
Kaioken x3: 24,000
Kaioken x4: 32,000
Kaioken x5 (Hypothetical): 40,000
Post-Vegeta Fight: 10,600
Kaioken x5: 53,000
100x Gravity Training: 90,000
Kaioken x2: 180,000
Kaioken x10: 900,000
Post-Ginyu Fight: 3,000,000
Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
SSJ: 150,000,000
Post-Freeza Fight: 3,500,000
Yardrat Training: 4,500,000
SSJ: 225,000,000
3 Years Training: 5,000,000
SSJ: 250,000,000
SSJ Grade 2: 375,000,000
SSJ Grade 3: 437,500,000
-----------------------------------------------------------------------[Mastering SSJ grants a massive boost to base + reduces SSJ multiplier to x10 base]
Time Chamber Training: 75,000,000
SSJ (50%): 375,000,000
SSJ: 750,000,000
Post-Cell Fight: 76,000,000
SSJ: 760,000,000
7 Years Training: 80,000,000
SSJ: 800,000,000
SSJ2: 1,600,000,000
Post-Vegeta Fight: 81,000,000
SSJ: 810,000,000
SSJ2: 1,620,000,000
SSJ3: 6,480,000,000
Old Kai Lifeforce: 90,000,000 [Trying to justify Goku being above Gohan post-Buu as modern DB seems to keep implying]
SSJ: 900,000,000
SSJ2: 1,800,000,000
SSJ3: 7,200,000,000
Post-Kid Buu Fight: 92,000,000
SSJ: 920,000,000
SSJ2: 1,840,000,000
SSJ3: 7,360,000,000

Vegeta:

Spoiler:

Kid: 13,000
Adult: 18,000
Oozaru (Full Power): 180,000
Artificial Moon Power Drain: 6,000
Oozaru: 60,000
No Tail: 4,500
Post-Earth Fight: 24,000
Post-Zarbon Fight: 30,000
Post-Recoome Fight: 250,000
Fully Rested: 500,000
Post-Krillin Blast: 2,200,000
1 Year Training: 4,000,000
3 Years Training: 5,200,000
SSJ: 260,000,000
Time Chamber Training: 6,500,000
SSJ: 325,000,000
SSJ Grade 2: 487,500,000
Time Chamber Training 2: 7,000,000
SSJ: 350,000,000
SSJ Grade 2: 525,000,000
Enraged SSJ: 760,000,000
7 Years Training: 78,000,000
SSJ: 780,000,000
SSJ2: 1,560,000,000
Majin: 1,600,000,000
Post-Sacrifice: 90,000,000
SSJ: 900,000,000
SSJ2: 1,800,000,000
Post-Kid Buu Fight: 92,000,000
SSJ: 920,000,000
SSJ2: 1,840,000,000

Gohan:

Spoiler:

Resting: 1
Enraged: 1,307
Wilderness Training: 981
Enraged: 2,800
Oozaru: 28,000
Post-Vegeta Fight: 2,900
Potential Unlock: 14,000
Post-Recoome Fight: 80,000
Potential Unlock (Full Unlock): 200,000
Enraged 1: 1,000,000
Enraged 2: 2,000,000
3 Years Training: 4,800,000
SSJ: 240,000,000
Time Chamber Training: 77,000,000
SSJ: 770,000,000
Enraged SSJ (Hypothetical): 790,000,000 [Rage boost is not as high since Gohan already drew out most of his power training with Goku]
Enraged SSJ2: 1,580,000,000
7 Years Later: 76,000,000
SSJ: 760,000,000
Tournament Training: 77,000,000
SSJ: 770,000,000
SSJ2: 1,540,000,000
Enraged SSJ2 (Hypothetical): 1,580,000,000 [Rage boost should debatably be higher here]
Z-Sword Training: 85,000,000
SSJ: 850,000,000
SSJ2: 1,700,000,000
Ultimate: 7,000,000,000

Piccolo:

Spoiler:

Kid: 260
Adult: 343
Giant: 360
5 Years Training (Weighted): 322
Unweighted: 408
1 Year Training: 3,500
King Kai Training: 300,000
Nail Fusion: 1,500,000
1 Year Training: 4,000,000
3 Years Training: 200,000,000
Kami Fusion: 350,000,000
Time Chamber Training: 500,000,000
7 Years Training: 780,000,000

Krillin

Spoiler:

Temple Monk: 7
Master Roshi Training: 48
Advanced Roshi Training: 130
Korin Training: 275
5 Years Training: 320
Kami Training: 1,770
Kienzan: 20,000
Potential Unlock (Initial): 13,000
Potential Unlock (Power Rising): 75,000
Potential Unlock (Peak VS Freeza): 190,000
Shin Kienzan: 2,000,000
3 Years Training: 4,700,000
Shin Kienzan: 400,000,000
7 Years Later (sparring with 18): 75,000,000
Shin Kienzan: 750,000,000

Tien:

Spoiler:

Crane School Training: 180
Kikoho: 240
Mafuba Training: 190
Kikoho: 250
Korin Training: 280
Kikoho: 330
5 Years Training: 340
Kikoho: 400
Kami Training: 1,830
Kikoho: 3,000
King Kai Training: 150,000
Shin Kikoho: 1,800,000
1 Year Training: 160,000
Shin Kikoho: 1,900,000
3 Years Training: 4,600,000
Shin Kikoho: 400,000,000
7 Years Training: 74,000,000
Shin Kikoho: 750,000,000

Yamcha:

Spoiler:

Desert Bandit: 10
Wilderness Training: 45
Master Roshi Training: 130
Korin Training: 270
Soukidan: 280
Baseball Training: 300
Soukidan: 340
Kami Training: 1,480
Soukidan: 2,000
King Kai Training: 120,000
Shin Soukidan: 1,500,000
---------------------------------------------------------------[It is easy to justify Krillin and Tien showing up for the Androids when they have techniques that can rival SSJ, Yamcha is more difficult to justify so my guess is that Soukidan is this technique for Yamcha. Either that or Wolf Fang Fist gives Yamcha a special Wolf Aura that powers him up briefly like in Path to Power lol]

3 Years Training: 4,500,000
Shin Soukidan: 350,000,000
7 Years Baseball Training: 70,000,000
Shin Soukidan: 700,000,000

[Almighty Majin]

Time for some antagonists...

Emperor Pilaf:

Spoiler:

Pilaf: 3
Pilaf Machine: 60
Fused Pilaf Machine: 110

Tao Pai Pai:

Spoiler:

Mercenary Tao: 125
Cyborg Tao: 210

Demon King Piccolo:

Spoiler:

Old: 230
Young: 260

Freeza:

Spoiler:

1st Form: 530,000
2nd Form: 1,200,000
3rd Form: 1,800,000
Base Form: 2,400,000
50% Power: 60,000,000
100% Power: 120,000,000
Mecha: 150,000,000

Cell:

Spoiler:

Larva: 400
Imperfect: 340,000,000
Humans Absorbed: 360,500,000
Semi-Perfect: 450,000,000
Perfect (Warming Up): 500,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed vs Goku): 755,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed vs Gohan): 775,000,000
Perfect (Full Power): 900,000,000
Bulked Up: 1,200,000,000
Post-Self-Destruct: 1,500,000,000

Buu:

Spoiler:

Majin Buu: 6,300,000,000
Good Buu: 2,520,000,000
Evil Buu: 3,780,000,000
Super Buu: 6,500,000,000
Gotenks & Piccolo Absorbed: 10,500,000,000
Defused: 6,800,000,000
Gohan Absorbed: 14,000,000,000
Kid Buu: 7,200,000,000

Abo & Cado:

Spoiler:

Abo: 530,000
Cado: 530,000
Abocado: 813,000,000

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Redoing Goku power levels:

Post Rosat Goku at 50% was stated to be stronger than Super Vegeta, and Trunks suggests Vegeta didn't need SSJ Grade 2 to fight Cell. He's definitely above 16, let alone 17 lol. I think you might have Boo Saga Piccolo too high, he's a complete non factor and was weaker than Kaioshin and Dabra. I think going from 500mil to 600mil would be more realistic.

Oh and Yamcha was much, much, MUCH weaker than Goku and Kuririn on the 21st Budokai. Roshi defeated Yamcha by waving his hand while the boys gave him an actual fight. Wilderness training just doesn't compare to Kame training, even putting Yamcha at 30 would be generous.

Here's mine. I take the levels from Raditz's scouter as resting levels, so the levels in part 1 make sense.

Goku

Spoiler:

Birth: 2
Arriving on Earth: 5
Grandpa Gohan training: 10
Master Roshi training: 40
Tail regrown: 50
Post Budokai: 55
Post Muscle Tower: 60
Karin's training: 125

3 years training: 180
Post Piccolo fight: 200
Holy Water: 260
Full power: 325
Kami training (Weighted): 375
Unweighted: 500
Full power: 675

5 years training (Weighted): 500
Unweighted: 750
Kaio training: 8,000
Kaioken x2: 16,000
Kaioken x3: 24,000
Kaioken x4: 32,000

Post Vegeta: 10,000
100G training: 90,000
Kaioken x2: 180,000
Post Ginyu: 3,000,000
Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
SSJ: 150,000,000

Post Freeza + Yardrat training: 4,000,000
SSJ: 200,000,000
3 years training: 6,000,000
SSJ: 300,000,000
Sick: 225,000,000
Rosat training: 60,000,000
SSJ (About 50%): 1,500,000,000
FPSSJ: 3,000,000,000

Heaven training: 90,000,000
SSJ: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000
SSJ3: 36,000,000,000

Vegeta

Spoiler:

Infant: 9,000
Adult: 18,000
Oozaru (Weakened): 45,000
Post Oozaru: 3,600
Post Genki Dama: 1,800

Post Earth fight: 24,000
Post Zarbon: 30,000
Post Recoome: 50,000 ~ 250,000 ~ 500,000
Post Kuririn: 2,400,000

1 year training: 3,200,000
300G training: 6,300,000
SSJ: 315,000,000
Rosat training: 16,800,000
SSJ: 840,000,000
Grade 2: 1,260,000,000
More Rosat training: 42,000,000
SSJ: 2,100,000,000

7 years training: 72,000,000
SSJ: 3,600,000,000
SSJ2: 7,200,000,000
Potential unlocked: 90,000,000
SSJ: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000

Gohan

Spoiler:

Toddler: 710
Docile: 1
Enraged: 1,307
Oozaru: 7,100
Piccolo training: 1,520
Enraged: 2,800
Oozaru (Weakened): 10,000

Post Vegeta: 2,000
Potential unlocked: 14,000 ~ 35,000 ~ 200,000
Enraged: 900,000
Post 2nd form Freeza: 600,000
Enraged again: 1,800,000

3 years training: 3,000,000
Rosat training: 75,000,000
SSJ: 3,750,000,000
Enraged: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000

7 years slacking: 60,000,000
SSJ: 3,000,000,000
SSJ2: 6,000,000,000
Z Sword training: 90,000,000
SSJ: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000
Ultimate: 90,000,000,000

Piccolo

Spoiler:

Infant: 325
Adult: 650
5 years training (Weighted): 480
Unweighted: 720
1 year training: 2,500

Kaio training: 300,000
Fused with Nail: 1,500,000

1 year training: 3,000,000
Goku training: 225,000,000
Fused with Kami: 450,000,000
Rosat training: 1,200,000,000

7 years training: 1,500,000,000

Kuririn

Spoiler:

Temple Monk: 8
Master Roshi training: 36
Advanced Roshi training: 112.5
Karin training: 300

5 years training: 320
Kami training: 1,770
1 month training: 1,800
Potential unlocked: 13,000 ~ 26,000 ~ 75,000 ~ 100,000
3 years training: 300,000
7 years on and off training: 300,000

Tenshinhan:

Spoiler:

Tsuru training: 180
Karin training: 360

5 years training: 400
Kami training: 1,830
Kaio training: 60,000
3 years training: 180,000
7 years training: 200,000

Yamcha

Spoiler:

Desert Bandit: 9
Solo training: 18
Master Roshi training: 108
Karin training: 285

5 years training: 300
Kami training: 1,480
Kaio training: 40,000
3 years training: 120,000
7 years slacking: 100,000

The villains are kinda obvious so I'm just giving you Cell and Boo. The increases you give for Cell are definitely waaaay too low. I know gaps don't matter, but you have Cell stay pretty much the same after absorbing all those people! You also have Semi Cell, Super Vegeta and Perfect Cell almost the same which is really weird. I also think Fat Boo should be a bit lower, the difference between him and Super Boo is kinda big at least.

Cell

Spoiler:

Imperfect: 360,000,000
Humans absorbed: 600,000,000
Semi Perfect: 800,000,000
Full power: 960,000,000
Perfect: 1,680,000,000
Powered up vs Goku and Gohan: 3,500,000,000
Full power: 5,000,000,000
Buffed up: 6,000,000,000
Super Perfect: 7,000,000,000

Majin Boo

Spoiler:

Fat, just awakened: 7,500,000,000
Angry at Dabra: 12,000,000,000
Angry at Vegeta: 15,000,000,000
Evil expelled: 6,000,000,000

Evil: 9,000,000,000
Good absorbed: 60,000,000,000
Gotenks absorbed: 120,000,000,000 and some
Gohan absorbed: 150,000,000,000 and some

South Kaioshin absorbed: 72,000,000,000
Pure: 36,000,000,000

[ZombieVito]

Redoing Goku power levels:

Post Rosat Goku at 50% was stated to be stronger than Super Vegeta, and Trunks suggests Vegeta didn't need SSJ Grade 2 to fight Cell. He's definitely above 16, let alone 17 lol. I think you might have Boo Saga Piccolo too high, he's a complete non factor and was weaker than Kaioshin and Dabra. I think going from 500mil to 600mil would be more realistic.

Oh and Yamcha was much, much, MUCH weaker than Goku and Kuririn on the 21st Budokai. Roshi defeated Yamcha by waving his hand while the boys gave him an actual fight. Wilderness training just doesn't compare to Kame training, even putting Yamcha at 30 would be generous.

Here's mine. I take the levels from Raditz's scouter as resting levels, so the levels in part 1 make sense.

Goku

Spoiler:

Birth: 2
Arriving on Earth: 5
Grandpa Gohan training: 10
Master Roshi training: 40
Tail regrown: 50
Post Budokai: 55
Post Muscle Tower: 60
Karin's training: 125

3 years training: 180
Post Piccolo fight: 200
Holy Water: 260
Full power: 325
Kami training (Weighted): 375
Unweighted: 500
Full power: 675

5 years training (Weighted): 500
Unweighted: 750
Kaio training: 8,000
Kaioken x2: 16,000
Kaioken x3: 24,000
Kaioken x4: 32,000

Post Vegeta: 10,000
100G training: 90,000
Kaioken x2: 180,000
Post Ginyu: 3,000,000
Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
SSJ: 150,000,000

Post Freeza + Yardrat training: 4,000,000
SSJ: 200,000,000
3 years training: 6,000,000
SSJ: 300,000,000
Sick: 225,000,000
Rosat training: 60,000,000
SSJ (About 50%): 1,500,000,000
FPSSJ: 3,000,000,000

Heaven training: 90,000,000
SSJ: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000
SSJ3: 36,000,000,000

Vegeta

Spoiler:

Infant: 9,000
Adult: 18,000
Oozaru (Weakened): 45,000
Post Oozaru: 3,600
Post Genki Dama: 1,800

Post Earth fight: 24,000
Post Zarbon: 30,000
Post Recoome: 50,000 ~ 250,000 ~ 500,000
Post Kuririn: 2,400,000

1 year training: 3,200,000
300G training: 6,300,000
SSJ: 315,000,000
Rosat training: 16,800,000
SSJ: 840,000,000
Grade 2: 1,260,000,000
More Rosat training: 42,000,000
SSJ: 2,100,000,000

7 years training: 72,000,000
SSJ: 3,600,000,000
SSJ2: 7,200,000,000
Potential unlocked: 90,000,000
SSJ: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000

Gohan

Spoiler:

Toddler: 710
Docile: 1
Enraged: 1,307
Oozaru: 7,100
Piccolo training: 1,520
Enraged: 2,800
Oozaru (Weakened): 10,000

Post Vegeta: 2,000
Potential unlocked: 14,000 ~ 35,000 ~ 200,000
Enraged: 900,000
Post 2nd form Freeza: 600,000
Enraged again: 1,800,000

3 years training: 3,000,000
Rosat training: 75,000,000
SSJ: 3,750,000,000
Enraged: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000

7 years slacking: 60,000,000
SSJ: 3,000,000,000
SSJ2: 6,000,000,000
Z Sword training: 90,000,000
SSJ: 4,500,000,000
SSJ2: 9,000,000,000
Ultimate: 90,000,000,000

Piccolo

Spoiler:

Infant: 325
Adult: 650
5 years training (Weighted): 480
Unweighted: 720
1 year training: 2,500

Kaio training: 300,000
Fused with Nail: 1,500,000

1 year training: 3,000,000
Goku training: 225,000,000
Fused with Kami: 450,000,000
Rosat training: 1,200,000,000

7 years training: 1,500,000,000

Kuririn

Spoiler:

Temple Monk: 8
Master Roshi training: 36
Advanced Roshi training: 112.5
Karin training: 300

5 years training: 320
Kami training: 1,770
1 month training: 1,800
Potential unlocked: 13,000 ~ 26,000 ~ 75,000 ~ 100,000
3 years training: 300,000
7 years on and off training: 300,000

Tenshinhan:

Spoiler:

Tsuru training: 180
Karin training: 360

5 years training: 400
Kami training: 1,830
Kaio training: 60,000
3 years training: 180,000
7 years training: 200,000

Yamcha

Spoiler:

Desert Bandit: 9
Solo training: 18
Master Roshi training: 108
Karin training: 285

5 years training: 300
Kami training: 1,480
Kaio training: 40,000
3 years training: 120,000
7 years slacking: 100,000

The villains are kinda obvious so I'm just giving you Cell and Boo. The increases you give for Cell are definitely waaaay too low. I know gaps don't matter, but you have Cell stay pretty much the same after absorbing all those people! You also have Semi Cell, Super Vegeta and Perfect Cell almost the same which is really weird. I also think Fat Boo should be a bit lower, the difference between him and Super Boo is kinda big at least.

Cell

Spoiler:

Imperfect: 360,000,000
Humans absorbed: 600,000,000
Semi Perfect: 800,000,000
Full power: 960,000,000
Perfect: 1,680,000,000
Powered up vs Goku and Gohan: 3,500,000,000
Full power: 5,000,000,000
Buffed up: 6,000,000,000
Super Perfect: 7,000,000,000

Majin Boo

Spoiler:

Fat, just awakened: 7,500,000,000
Angry at Dabra: 12,000,000,000
Angry at Vegeta: 15,000,000,000
Evil expelled: 6,000,000,000

Evil: 9,000,000,000
Good absorbed: 60,000,000,000
Gotenks absorbed: 120,000,000,000 and some
Gohan absorbed: 150,000,000,000 and some

South Kaioshin absorbed: 72,000,000,000
Pure: 36,000,000,000

Outside of some nitpicks like BoZ Goku/Piccolo being too high or the humans being to weak after Namek, I really like your numbers.

[daniel1]

Time for some antagonists...

Here's mine. I take the levels from Raditz's scouter as resting levels, so the levels in part 1 make sense.

Just need to rearrange the Buu numbers since Kid Buu is the strongest form.

[Yuji]

Alright, I've been working for the past week on my battle powers list. I'm trying to put together a list including all of Super and GT. A Z list would be easy(-ish) enough, but I'm trying to make a comprehensive scale for myself. Obviously, this means a lot of things will be up to interpretation and some liberties will be taken, but generally I'd like to establish a few things:

• Obviously, I'm open to feedback, though I will try to lay out my reasoning for the controversial debates (Dabra vs Cell, Shin's battle power, etc), as well as all the "headcanon" liberties I take (and why they may, or may not, matter);
• The list tries to minimize bloat as best as possible. It caps out in the quadrillions, which, honestly, is already far too high for my taste, but that's only because fusions (and DBS: Broly, specifically) made things hard. There are instances where numbers necessarily will blow up beyond my taste, but when possible, I will try to keep gaps low. I'm using 15-25% gaps as seen through the Namek arc as more than enough to overpower a single opponent, and unless the characters make visible or explicitly stated power-ups, they won't get much stronger via timeskips or casual training;
• Super is complicated to scale, so I will follow the manga (mostly) because it's more straightforward and has less inconsistencies. There will be some compromises with the anime though, especially with characters in the ToP who have no feats for example, but mostly the manga takes precedence, so if there's contradiction between the two mediums, the manga will be regarded primarily;
• Heroes/videogame scaling won't be taken seriously, but if they don't contradict anything in canon, and it makes thematic sense to me, I will use some of their scaling, for example: Blue and SS4 being comparable.

Artificial Humans arc:

Spoiler:

Freeza's invasion:

Mecha Freeza: 140.000.000
-- Suppressed: 70.000.000

King Cold: 70.000.000

Trunks: 3.000.000
-- SS: 150.000.000

Goku: 3.500.000
-- SS: 175.000.000

I've seen some people already having Goku and Trunks at >200M, but I'm taking a minimalist approach when possible. Freeza powered-up enough to where he's relative to Goku, but he's suppressed so Trunks kills him easily. Cold is compared to Freeza's suppressed state. Trunks is compared to Goku by Gohan - while I agree he's just referring to the Super Saiyan "type" of Ki, I do think it makes things thematically neat if he's equal to Namek Goku. Goku states Trunks was holding back, so he's not that much stronger.

//

3 Years Later

Yamcha: 1.440.000
Tenshinhan: 1.870.000
Kuririn: 2.000.000

Vegeta: 4.000.000
-- SS: 200.000.000

Goku: 3.700.000
-- SS: 185.000.000

Artificial Human #19: 90.000.000
-- Ki absorbed: 175.000.000

Dr. Gero: 100.000.000

Piccolo: 125.000.000

Trunks: 3.800.000
-- SS: 190.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 270.000.000
-- Future #18: 170.000.000

Artificial Human #17: 310.000.000
-- Future #17: 210.000.000

Future Gohan: 2.000.000
-- SS: 100.000.000

I think the only contentions here are if #19 and Gero are stronger than Freeza, and future Gohan. I choose to believe they're weaker than Freeza out of personal preference. As for Gohan, unfortunately he is weak in the manga. Trunks says he could handle at least one android, but Gohan couldn't even defeat #17 at half strength. This leads me to believe Trunks is already far stronger than Gohan was - although it kinda pains me to have him weaker than even Namek Goku, but that's just how things panned out. The anime version, however, would probably be similar to Trunks here or maybe even stronger. Piccolo should at least have surpassed Freeza and Gero confused Yamcha for Goku, so the humans shouldn't be that much weaker.

Since this is a holistic list, maybe Dr. Gero is too strong here, since Pan can handle him fine in GT Then again, Pan did defeat Goten easily in EoZ filler. Maybe they're both in the 10-30M range and only became a problem because #19 drained Goku and Vegeta? Would like to hear thoughts on this.

//

Cell Appears:

Multipliers:

• Weighted Clothing: 1.25x
• Grade 2: Base x 75
• Grade 3: Base x 100

Piccolo: 250.000.000
-- Unweighted: 312.500.000

Cell: 225.000.000
-- Post-Absorptions: 400.000.000
-- Semi-Perfect: 625.000.000

Artificial Human #16: 400.000.000

Vegeta: 10.000.000
-- SS: 500.000.000
-- G2: 750.000.000

Trunks: 9.900.000
-- SS: 495.000.000
-- G2: 742.500.000
-- G3: 990.000.000

I think I gave Grade 3 a higher multiplier than most folks usually do but I like to keep it at a convenient number. Besides that, I think everything here is straightforward too.

//

The Cell Games:

Multipliers:

• Mastered Super Saiyan: Base x 100

Goku: 21.000.000
-- SS: 2.100.000.000

Gohan: 29.000.000
-- SS: 2.900.000.000
-- SS2: 5.800.000.000

Cell: 2.500.000.000
-- SPC: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 15.000.000
-- SS: 750.000.000
-- G2: 1.125.000.000

Trunks: 14.900.000
-- SS: 745.000.000
-- G2: 1.117.500.000

Cell Jr: 1.250.000.000

Piccolo: 625.000.000

Now the first huge bloat, coming from Goku's power-up on Karin tower at 50%. I'm also in the camp that Trunks' reaction implies Goku's half power surpassed him and Vegeta. Maybe he was just comparing regular Super Saiyan forms, and therefore SS Goku at 50% > SS Trunks, not necessarily Grade 3, but I don't think it makes much of a difference.

I've always believed Super Saiyan multipliers, ever since the SEG lists SS2 and SS4 as SSx2 and SS2x4 respectively, rather than x100 or x400, are variable and this has become, if nothing else, abundantly clear with Super, as in, for example, the Vegeta and Cabba fight. My headcanon is that MSS is the same multiplier as the Grade 3 form. The ROSAT training was based on improving Super Saiyan, so it doesn't make sense to me necessarily that their base forms would have skyrocketed so much. If you train your base, your Super Saiyan gets stronger, but if you train your Super Saiyan, all that means is your Super Saiyan gets stronger. To me, anyway. But I understand the opposite perspective.

Besides that, I think a noticeable gap between Gohan and everyone else is mandatory. I don't understand how some folks have Goku near Gohan at all. It's not noticeable if Vegeta and Trunks are using SS or G2, but I choose to believe they're using G2 since it's actually an efficient form compared to G3. Either way, they're still stronger than Piccolo even in regular Super Saiyan just for good measure, since Cell mentions only Vegeta and Trunks keep up with the Cell Jrs. In the anime, Piccolo does a bit better, so I understand why some may feel this number is low. I'm open to arguments, I can honestly have Cell/Boo arc Piccolo anywhere from 600M to over 1B, but unless Daima showcases anything differently, being outperformed by a rusty SS Gohan in ROF probably means that Piccolo isn't as strong as we'd like to think he is.

Majin Boo arc:

Spoiler:

Babidi's invasion:

Pui Pui: 10.000.000
Yakon: 800.000.000

Dabra: 5.250.000.000

Shin: 2.000.000.000

Trunks: 11.000.000
-- SS: 1.100.000.000

Goten: 10.500.000
-- SS: 1.050.000.000

Piccolo: 800.000.000

Gohan: 25.000.000
-- SS: 2.500.000.000
-- SS2: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 28.000.000
-- SS: 2.800.000.000
-- SS2: 5.600.000.000

Majin Vegeta: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000

Goku: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000
-- SS3: 24.000.000.000

Fat Boo: 20.000.000.000

A couple of things to note here: firstly, the old Shin vs Piccolo debate. There's a Spanish guidebook that places Shin at CG Goku's level. Because of how well Shin handles Gohan, Dabra and Boo, I'd wager they're right, and that Piccolo's comment is truly about his power, rather than status. This leaves the base Saiyans in a weird position. Later on in the list, I'll introduce the common "Saiya power" concept that some folks use, but honestly I could use it here, since there are a lot of implications in the Boo arc (and later on in Super and Daima too) that seem to point toward the base Saiyans not only being stronger than Freeza, but stronger than even Piccolo and Shin too. Only because I'm not sure I like the idea of the Saiyans becoming 50-100x stronger in one single arc, even though CG Gohan is still a measuring stick well into the Boo arc, I won't grant them that power.

Though of course this leaves things complicated on how to scale Piccolo and Shin later on in the series, but we'll get to it later. As for the kids, I've always held them in high regard, near Boo arc Gohan, but considering how they seem to struggle with the Cell Jrs in Super, I can't place them that high, unless we believe Gohan in the beginning of the arc was just that much weaker than the version we saw later vs Boo. Some may argue they shouldn't be stronger than Piccolo based on Super Boo's appearance, but he was shocked at their strength, called them the last hope before knowing about fusion, they surprised Vegeta and Gohan, and they handled multiple Cell Jrs at once later. The signs seem to point toward them being stronger.

Goku's SS power fits in with the 3000 Killis coincidentally, so I gave Yakon 800 million, since his Killis were read at 800. Dabra's power seems to be firmly within the SS2 tier after Super, where, a future Trunks comparable to Zamasu arc Goku and stated to be stronger than CG Gohan, could not defeat him without SS2. This isn't just rusty SS Boo arc Gohan struggling anymore, so we can't deny he was being compared to SPC. This leaves a narrow window to fit the Tamagamis later on in the list, but I'll manage.

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Absorptions & Fusions:

Multipliers:

• Fusion Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Full Power Super Saiyan 3: Super Saiyan 3 x 4

Gohan: 32.000.000
-- SS: 3.200.000.000
-- SS2: 6.400.000.000
-- Ultimate: 130.000.000.000

Trunks: 14.000.000
-- SS: 1.400.000.000

Goten: 13.500.000
-- SS: 1.350.000.000

Evil Boo: 12.500.000.000
Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Gotenks: 6.250.000.000
-- SS: 12.500.000.000
-- SS3: 100.000.000.000

Super Boo: 90.000.000.000
-- Gotenks: 190.000.000.000
-- Gohan: 220.000.000.000

Vegetto: 850.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.700.000.000.000

Kid Boo: 25.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical Full Power: 70.000.000.000

Hypothetical FPSS3 Goku: 96.000.000.000

These are Gohan, Trunks and Goten's updated numbers following their training. The old tired SS3 Goku vs Gotenks vs Gohan debate will of course rage on, but I've settled on Gohan > SS3 Gotenks > SS3 Goku > SS Gotenks. Gotenks is strong enough in SS that a hypothetical SS2 would defeat Boo, as per Goku's estimation. But I don't think you can ignore all the implications of SS3 Gotenks and Gohan being stronger, even if the anime and post-Boo material do their best to make it look like Goku's the strongest. I think a combination of Gohan losing ultimate and getting rusty, and Gotenks not being considered his own entity, would account for all the "Goku's number 1" statements post-Boo.

So the points of contention here are the fusion battle powers in base form. I will apply this to GT's base Saiyans later, but essentially I'm taking the old "Saiya power" concept, that some Saiyans that can turn Super Saiyan can use a portion of Super Saiyan power in base form - in this case, it's 50%; Vegetto's "real" base form would be at 17 billion, and Gotenks would be 125 million. This explains why nobody uses Kaioken in base later, as well as all the super strong base Saiyan scenes from Toei filler, the Super anime, etc. Of course, this is headcanon, especially here in the Boo arc. But it's a way only to keep things tidy and reduce bloat. I could essentially arrive at all the same "tiers" and place all the characters where I want them using conventional multipliers.

Daizenshuu states Gotenks surpassed Vegeta after the ROSAT training. I've seen some people interpret this as their base forms, or SS Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta, but I think only base Gotenks was pictured.

Some may snark at Vegetto being this strong, but 1. I definitely believe the GT Perfect Files comparison to SS4 Goku, 2. Vegetto was essentially toying with Boohan to get absorbed, so we never saw him at full power, and 3. in the anime, he was already toying with Boohan in base. The gap between the two may be ridiculous, but nothing outright contradicts it.

Ultimate as we will see in Super has a variable multiplier, so none was given here to avoid headaches. I would like, however, to propose a SS3 x4 multiplier for a hypothetical Full Power SS3 that Goku tried to achieve in the Boo fight. This would multiply his 24B by 4 and place him at full power at 96 billion, which is closer to Gotenks' and Gohan's 100 and 130 respectively. This could also thereby boost Kid Boo's battle power to the 50-90 billion range, pushing him closer to Super Boo to align with the filler scaling. I'll probably play with this theory more in the future, but because no "FPSS3" exists even in Heroes, I don't feel comfortable incorporating it into my numbers for the time being.

Dragon Ball GT:

Spoiler:

Baby arc:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Golden Oozaru: Super Saiyan x 10
• Super Saiyan 4: Golden Oozaru x 10
• Full Power Super Saiyan 4: Super Saiyan 4 x 10
• Super Baby 1: Base x 2
• Super Baby 2: Super Baby 1 x 4

Ledgic: 6.500.000.000

Goku: 8.500.000.000
-- SS: 17.000.000.000
-- SS2: 34.000.000.000
-- SS3: 136.000.000.000
-- GO: 170.000.000.000
---- Enraged: 850.000.000.000
-- SS4: 1.700.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 17.000.000.000.000

Rildo: 8.000.000.000
-- Form 2: 16.000.000.000
-- Form 3: 20.000.000.000

Baby: 170.000.000.000
-- SBV1: 340.000.000.000
-- SBV2: 1.360.000.000.000
-- GO: 1.700.000.000.000

Oob: 10.000.000.000
-- Majoob: 1.000.000.000.000

GT scaling is actually decent, all things considered, when it comes to how it compares itself to the Z characters. I've debated at length over the last few weeks the Blue vs SS4/Vegetto vs SS4 issue, so I won't lay out my arguments again here. I think GT definitely subscribes to the notion that SS multipliers are lower, and this becomes even clearer the next arc, but to reiterate what I said above: I could still have everyone at the same "tier" of strength using conventional multipliers, I just choose to do this for the sake of decreasing bloat. The numbers may change, but the scaling itself would remain the same, I'd just have to add a lot more 0s to a lot more characters.

I believe one of the guidebooks state GO Goku was stronger than usual, which explains why he fought better against Baby despite the multiplier. "FPSS4" refers to the form that Goku uses in this and the Shadow Dragons arc when his friends give him energy. The form of Boo I chose for the Rildo comparison is Mr. Boo, it is to me the version that makes the most sense. My axiomatic tiers for the GT/Z comparisons are as follows:

Rildo > Mr. Boo
Baby ~ Bootenks/Boohan
SB1 > Boohan
SS4 Goku ~ GO Baby ~ Super Vegetto

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Super 17 & Shadow Dragons:

Goku: 10.000.000.000
-- SS: 20.000.000.000
-- SS4: 2.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 20.000.000.000.000

Super 17: 1.750.000.000.000

Majoob: 1.200.000.000.000

Syn Shenlong: 7.500.000.000.000
-- Omega: 75.000.000.000.000

Nova Shenlong: 1.900.000.000.000
Eis Shenlong: 1.850.000.000.000

SS4 Gogeta: 10.000.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku got a bit stronger, but not strong enough to where he's stronger than Majoob as SS, as some people claim. Super 17 takes a beating from SS Goku but later claims he was just letting himself get hit, it's not indicative of Goku's real power boost.

I'm unsure if Gogeta is in regular SS4 or not, it'd make sense if he's in the FP form off the bat. His number is severely bloated, I won't deny it, but it's only because I try to be consistent regarding the boost he gets over Goku & Vegeta with the DBS version's increase later. And as such, his base form battle power would be 50 trillion in this list, which is already near Omega's. Maybe fusions do need lower multipliers for the Super Saiyan forms. Spoiler alert, Beerus is 100 quadrillion, so at FPSS4, Gogeta would be the same level of power, fittingly with all the comparisons made between the two in the videogames.

Battle of Gods & Resurrection F:

Spoiler:

Battle of Gods:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan God: SS x 100
• Enraged Super Saiyan 2: SS2 x 10

Goku: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- SS3: 27.200.000.000
-- SSG: 340.000.000.000

Vegeta: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- ESS2: 68.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Whis: 150.000.000.000.000.000

Not sure how Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form works, but it seems to be a permanent power-up in the Zamasu arc, with a different multiplier than Trunks' already improved Super Saiyan 2. Odd, but it's what it is.

Of course the main pushback I'll get here is on the SSG multiplier. I know all the yadda yadda fusion won't work arguments, but at this point, due to how much stuff from BoG has been retconned, I think we can probably discard it. Fusions have shown more than once how absurdly broken they are, and later on in the series will showcase power greater than SSG in base forms. Yes, exponential and whatever, but I don't see why we assume that SSG > Vegetto if 1. all power-related statements in this arc have been retconned regarding Beerus, and 2. Goku could not defeat Beerus in SSG anyway, so all he said was "x can't beat Beerus, and y can't beat Beerus either," never directly comparing x to y. So while this may fly in the face of all fan scaling, I prefer it.

In the manga, the SSG was never absorbed into base/SS form. And even in the anime, it seems it was retconned or phased out eventually, or at most, only used selectively, so don't expect Goku's base form to become hundreds of times stronger past this point. Accessing SSG is still a vastly different realm of power compared to what came prior, and these numbers still reflect that.

I also see a lot of folks making a big deal out of Goku's image training at the start of Super to mean he got way stronger from the Boo arc, but the series also explicitly states multiple times they've trained their bodies to their physical peaks, and only mastery of transformations will get them any stronger. I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously that he can one shot Cell and Boo in Super Saiyan.

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Resurrection F:

Multipliers:

• Saiyan beyond God: same as SSG
• Super Saiyan Blue: SSG x 5
• Freeza's true form: 1st form x 10
• Golden Freeza: true form x 100

Goku: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Vegeta: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Kuririn: 10.000.000
Tenshinhan: 7.500.000
Jaco: 2.500

Roshi: 500
-- Max Power: 5.000

Gohan: 16.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.600.000.000

Piccolo: 1.000.000.000

Shisami: 1.100.000.000

Average Freeza soldier: 500

Freeza: 2.000.000.000
-- True Form: 20.000.000.000
-- Golden: 2.000.000.000.000
-- Anime: 20.000.000.000.000

Goku and Vegeta obviously used their SSG power in base in this arc, but this is something we never see in the manga, so we don't know the arc plays out. In the anime, it plays out the same as the movie, but again, I don't think they ever show this type of power again.

This arc is a mess for everyone. Freeza's power is another I think got silently retconned, by proxy of Goku and Vegeta's power being retconned. He doesn't fight Gohan in the RF manga, and in the movie only one shots his base form. In the anime, he defeats Gohan in SS using his first form, which I think should be accurate enough, since he should be stronger than Shisami at the very least. For his final form, in the manga, his best feat after this arc is handling SS Caulifla decently enough in his true form, yet still taking some damage from a surprise attack. In the anime, he apparently needs to transform to handle SS2 Cabba, although he almost begins a beam struggle with SS2 Caulifla. If we follow the 226x multiplier from 1st to 100% power from Namek, he would be well beyond SS/SS2 levels, even if we grant that Cabba and Caulifla are much stronger than this Gohan. Yet we know that Freeza can choose his suppression forms' power. So I'm thinking he didn't make the gap that huge this time. Maybe a 2x gap between every form.

Gohan, of course, is stupidly rusty. But still stronger than everyone else. Piccolo got somewhat stronger from the Boo arc, but again, I still fear he's not much up to par with anyone. Shisami is stronger than him, and Tagoma, although I didn't list him, should be comparable to Gohan in the anime version. The humans have improved somewhat since the artificial humans. Roshi tangling with the Freeza soldiers is a surprise for everyone, even if Freeza probably collected some soldiers weaker than usual on account of the rush. However, he gets visibly tired and starts struggling at a certain point, so he's still in their ballpark, rather than the low millions like the others who take out the soldiers with ease. Jaco is afraid of adult Saiyans back during his own story, so even if a few decades have passed, he doesn't seem like the kind to become stronger. I doubt he's stronger than FP Roshi, but could handle the soldiers better on account of having better stamina.

We know God is at least 10% of Blue's power from the U6 arc, so the multiplier can range from 2x to 10x, I just chose x5 as a middle ground. In the anime, that boost would be 50x already, so if you want to transpose these numbers to the anime, just multiply every SSB tier character by 10x. Freeza's power goes up x10 and x100 per transformation, for simplicity's sake.

Universe 6 & Zamasu:

Spoiler:

Universe 6:

Goku: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSG: 360.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Vegeta: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Piccolo: 1.300.000.000

Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Frost: 30.000.000
-- Assault Form: 60.000.000
-- True Form: 2.000.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 1.750.000.000

Botamo: 25.000.000

Magetta: 4.500.000.000

Hit: 1.800.000.000.000

Goku confirms they're near their peak at the start of the arc, so they won't get much stronger from physical training anymore. Botamo is weaker than base Goku, and so is Frost in his first form. Frost's second form forces Goku to transform, and then he does somewhat decently against SS Goku. I think 2B is a decent number, enough to somewhat keep up with SS but also enough to be competitive with Piccolo once he gets tired. I'm not exactly sure on Cabba vs Frost, but Frost only gets one shotted because he fought 3 people in a row. Cabba is also an unmastered SS, which explains why Vegeta can toy with him in SS despite confirming they're equals in base form. Magetta isn't strong enough to make Vegeta use SS2, so he's in-between the two tiers. I'd wager not as strong as Cell or Dabra, however.

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Zamasu:

Multipliers:

• Completed Super Saiyan Blue: Super Saiyan Blue x 10
• Goku Black's Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Super Saiyan Rosé: Super Saiyan x 50
• Mastered Super Saiyan 2: Super Saiyan 2 x 4

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- SS3: 29.200.000.000
-- SSG: 365.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.825.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SS2: 7.400.000.000
-- ESS2: 74.000.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.850.000.000.000

Trunks: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SS2: 7.200.000.000
-- FPSS2: 28.800.000.000

Zamasu: 6.500.000.000

Goku Black: 17.500.000.000
-- SS: 35.000.000.000
-- SSR: 1.750.000.000.000

Merged Zamasu: 23.000.000.000.000

Vegetto: 12.000.000.000.000
-- Blue: 12.000.000.000.000.000
-- Final Kamehameha: 120.000.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Zamasu arc takes place at best a few months post U6, so I don't think they got much stronger at all, even with their mid-arc training which I will explain below.

Okay, for this arc, you have to make a lot of assumptions, because Toyotaro dropped the ball. The glaring issue is SS Goku Black defeating SSB Vegeta post-senzu bean, only for SSB Vegeta post-ROSAT to defeat him in Rosé. But the ROSAT training was implied to have only been to master the God-Blue switch, not making Vegeta hundreds or thousands of times stronger. Even if that were the case, Goku's training was just one day -- and in the next arc, he's Vegeta's equal despite being rusty at the start of it. So did Goku get a thousand times stronger passively?

I think they just worked on making SSB more efficient and their base power didn't really increase much at all, which means you have to start wondering how Goku Black's power works. To make things easy, I say he just gets 2x stronger from Super Saiyan and then stacks a x50 multiplier from Rosé on top of that. He's weaker than Blue, still. We see him defeat Trunks in base form at the start of the arc, but that was an injured Trunks who admits later he's already seen Black's SS form, so he was probably getting his ass beat by that form until he got so weak he couldn't transform anymore.

As for CSSB's multiplier, I've usually been conservative with it, but I've stuck with x10 to make it equal to the anime's x50 (once multiplied from the original x5 of the incomplete SSB) and also match it with FPSS4 from GT. SSG and SSB have always been portrayed as a completely different dimension from SS3 and SSG respectively, so the multipliers being progressively higher with each form isn't offensive to me, considering SS3 also had a higher multiplier than SS2.

The fact teen Gohan is still used as a measuring stick this arc leads me to believe Trunks isn't too far off from him. The Dabra incident occurred only a year prior in his timeline, so if he was struggling with Dabra, he can't be over 2x stronger than CG Gohan.

Zamasu is hard to scale, since Goku claims Trunks can handle Zamasu on his own, but still uses SSB and SSG against him. Of course, he toys with Zamasu in these forms, and he seems comfortable powering down to regular SS once he thinks the fight is won. Because in the second encounter he powered down to SSG, and not SS2 or SS3, I'd say he's probably in that SS2 ballpark like the anime version who fought SS2 Goku.

Vegetto is just overpowered. The multiplier for the final KHH is the same as CSSB, so that's how strong he'd be if he debuted the transformation right then.

Tournament of Power:

Spoiler:

Universe 2:

Ribrianne: 1.500.000.000
Kakunsa: 250.000.000
Roasie: 100.000.000

Zarbuto: 25.000.000
Rabanra: 25.000.000
Zirloin: 25.000.000

Jimeze: 30.000.000

Vikal: 1.000.000
Prum: 1.000.000
Harmira: 10.000.000

Heles: 42.000.000.000.000.000

The Tournament of Power is hard to scale in both mediums, because most characters are fodder and any performance can be judged on whether or not x character was taking it seriously, holding back, or fatigued, and a lot of characters can punch above their weight using unorthodox techniques, catching characters off guard, or using teamwork. As such, it takes a lot of guesswork to arrive at any concrete numbers and a lot of assumptions have to be made. I don't fault anyone for finding issues with my numbers, these are just the general approximations to certain "tiers" of power I got from their performances. I'll be drawing heavily from the anime here for a lot of characters who don't do much in the manga, but generally, if the anime contradicts a performance from the manga, I'll take the manga's portrayal primarily.

So Ribrianne is consistently portrayed in both mediums as around #18's level, since she's beaten by her. How strong #18 is right now is a bit nebulous, but I think she's significantly stronger now. Kakunsa and Roasie meanwhile don't have many feats, but as the Kamikaze fireballs, they should be the top 3 strongest in the verse. Kakunsa was strong enough for #18 in the anime to think #17 may need some help, so I'll just put her at Cell arc #17's level for simplicity's sake. Meanwhile Roasie is bested by base Goku in the anime, but he had to use strategy rather than just overpowering her. Roasie also manages to dodge a punch while smiling from The Preecho, who's stronger than base Cabba, so I guess this is a decent BP for her, I don't think she should be too much weaker than Kakunsa. The other two should probably be a bit more relative to Ribrianne, since they're able to hold #18 in place, but it's clear it was just because she was distracted, and she breaks free easily afterwards.

The next 3 are the fodder who take over the Kamikaze fireballs power-up in the anime, but they don't have that boost in the manga. They fight base Goku for a bit in the anime and manage to get the upperhand since it's 3v1, but they don't seem that strong otherwise. A notch below base Goku seems fair.

Jimeze gets knocked out by #18 in the manga in the first chapter, but in the anime manages to overwhelm base Gohan with IT, so he should be closer to the base Saiyans than the other three.

Finally the other three are fodder. Vikal has no feats, but I don't think any fighter in the ToP cracks below the 1M mark since most of them can probably destroy the arena's Katchin. I have no horse in this race either way. Because Roshi isn't complete fodder, maybe some of the weaker contestants are in the low thousands after all. Prum is also fodder. Harmira faces Tenshinhan in the anime, so he's somewhere comparable to the humans.

Heles' and most of the GoD battle powers is complete conjecture. She just didn't seem particularly strong during the Zen Exhibition, so I'm placing her among the weaker end.

Overall, quite a weak universe. In the anime, they get a boost from the Kamikaze Fireballs 2.0 and their black hole attack, but Ribrianne being their strongest fighter in both mediums is a bit underwhelming.

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Universe 3:

Katopesla: 25.000.000
The Preecho: 50.000.000
Narirama: 50.000.000

Nigrissi: 4.000.000.000

Maji Kayo: 1.000.000.000.000

Biarra: 2.000.000.000

Koitsukai: 1.500.000.000
Pancea: 4.000.000.000
Borareta: 1.500.000.000

Dr. Paparoni: 25.000.000
-- Anilaza: 5.000.000.000.000

Mosco: 80.000.000.000.000.000

Katopesla is unfortunately easily knocked aside by base Vegeta in the manga. Even in the anime, he can only compete with one of his super modes, which isn't present in the manga. The Preecho is surprisingly strong, getting the upperhand on base Cabba and forcing him to go Super Saiyan. Narirama is a bit of a nuisance in the anime, requiring Basil and Hit to take him down.

Then we have Nigrissi, who's touted as one of the strongest fighters in the anime, but gets knocked out by base Cabba. I think when this aired, everyone wondered if someone got the wrong script. I'll chalk it up to the anime inconsistency, or maybe he didn't expect Cabba to react to his sneak attack and got caught off-guard. Because in the manga, surprisingly, he is targeted by Jiren, alongside Maji Kayo and Pancea, after Goku in SS admitted he "wasn't even on his radar." That's pretty impressive, so I'll take it over his anime showcase.

Maji Kayo doesn't do much in the manga besides being targeted by Jiren as said above, but in the anime we all know he could hold down Dyspo and almost mutilated him if Jiren didn't intervene. Maybe he punched above his weight class because of his Boo-like abilities, but nevertheless I'd still say he's one of the stronger beings of the tournament.

Biarra can tangle with #17 and #18 at the same time. He staggers Magetta in the manga, and wants to face Toppo and Dyspo in the anime. He's also stated to be very strong defensively, and one of U3's key players.

Then we have the three fusion fodder, who don't do much in the manga. Pancea is targeted by Jiren, so he should be above SS tier, and the other are that strong due to being relative to him. Surprisingly, in the anime they do manage to fight ultimate Gohan for a bit, and are clearly stronger than the base Saiyans even before fusing, so I think this is a fair placement.

Paparoni isn't much of a fighter. I think he matches Rabanra (U2) in one of the manga panels. Anilaza is the strongest non-U6/7/11 figher in the tournament. Mosco was the first GoD to break Beerus' pseudo-UI, and also only got knocked down by 3 GoD attacking at once. I think he's one of the stronger ones.

Overall, U3 is actually pretty surprisingly strong, despite not being very relevant plot-wise in the arc. I'd say they're probably the strongest non-U6/7/11 universe in the tournament.

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Universe 4:

Ganos: 17.500.000
Caway: 1.000.000
Dercori: 12.000.000

Nink: 25.000.000
Shantsa: 1.000.000

Shosa: 10.000.000
Majora: 10.000.000

Damon: 1.750.000.000
Gamisaras: 1.250.000.000

Monna: 4.000.000.000

Quitela: 101.000.000.000.000.000

Ganos, Caway, and Dercori are some of the fighters Roshi defeats in the anime. He acknowledges both Ganos and Dercori are stronger than him. In the manga, they don't do much. Ganos is touted as one of U4's aces but gets defeated by Roshi straight overpowering him. It's odd because it's not like the anime where you can claim he defeats Kahseral or other fodder due to his skill/strategy, in the anime he just straightly overpowers Ganos with his Kamehameha, so it's hard to give Ganos any credit in terms of battle powers.

Nink matches Katospesla in the manga and in the anime can momentarily hold a distracted base Goku. Shosa and Majora are the characters Kuririn defeats in the anime, so they're not very strong. Shosa is also seen fighting Harmira in the manga, who's weaker than Tenshinhan. Shantsa has no feats.

Damon and Gamisaras are U4's aces, as they defeat both #18 and Piccolo. Of course, they were taken off-guard, as Piccolo can one shot Gamisaras with a Ki blast. Goku, however, praises Damon's strength. They're not very strong, but strong enough to knock characters like #18, Ribrianne and Piccolo around, even #17, so they're not fodder in spite of their abilities making up the difference.

Monna comes out as the real surprise. In the manga she doesn't do anything, but in the anime she of course takes care of SS Cabba and forces him into SS2. So even if that were not the intention of the writers, she comes across as the strongest fighter U4 has.

Quitela is the last man standing along with Beerus in the Exhibition, and it was stated he's his rival and also beat Beerus in arm wrestling, so maybe he's a tad bit stronger.

//

Universe 6:

Multipliers:

• Kale's Super Saiyan: Base x 2.000
• Kefla's Super Saiyan: Base x 2

Caulifla: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 3.500.000.000

Kale: 4.500.000.000
-- SS: 9.000.000.000.000

Kefla: (7.000.000.000.000)
-- SS: 14.000.000.000.000

Hit: 18.000.000.000.000

Frost: 2.500.000.000
Magetta: 4.500.000.000
Botamo: 25.000.000

Dr. Rota: 1.000.000

Saonel: 2.750.000.000
Pirina: 2.500.000.000

Champa: 70.000.000.000.000.000

Caulifla is stronger than Cabba and should be a match for Goku, as per the anime. Cabba mastered the SS form since the tournament. Of course the difference here is they don't go beyond to SS2. Kale, meanwhile, is already stronger than Caulifla's SS form in base form. The LSS/FPSS/Berserker transformation is a 2000x multiplier on top of the base form. Kefla doesn't show her base form in the manga, but the number is there for reference; like in the anime, she's way stronger than SSG Goku. In the anime, she defeats SSB Goku, but he was tired from fighting Jiren, and Vados admits she's not sure she could defeat a fresh Goku. She later transforms into SS2 to fight Omen. I don't think she's as strong as the anime version, but that "very near SSB" tier suits her well, since Kale was already strong enough to knock around a distracted Golden Freeza/SSB Goku/SSB Vegeta.

Frost surprisingly puts up a very good performance in the manga, defeating U9 basically single-handedly and tanking a Shin Kikoho. He's still stronger than Piccolo because of how the Trio de Dangers reacted to Frost taking out the rest of U9.

Hit is now as strong as CSSB Goku. Dr. Rota is fodder, unfortunately for me because I find him hilarious. Saonel and Pirina are stronger in the anime, since they scale above Piccolo who's at least SS2 tier in the ToP, but in the manga, they're basically featless. Out of reverence for their role in the anime and the fact that they should be as strong as or even stronger than Piccolo thematically, they're at this level here.

Champa is weaker than Beerus but should still put up a good fight, as seen in the anime and the flashback over their birthday cake. Beerus seemed in control even in that fight, so when things get serious, Beerus is the clear winner.

//

Universe 7:

Multipliers:

• Ultra Instinct Sign: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 50
• Mastered Ultra Instinct: Sign x 50
• Super Saiyan Blue Evolution: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 20

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 912.500.000.000.000
-- MUI: 45.625.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 370.000.000.000.000

Gohan: 35.000.000
-- Ultimate: 14.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 2.000.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 1.500.000.000
Artificial Human #17: 1.800.000.000.000

Muten Roshi: 5.000
-- Pseudo UI: 10.000.000

Tenshinhan: 15.000.000
Kuririn: 17.500.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku claims he's rusty at the start of the arc, so I doubt he and Vegeta have got much stronger - Vegeta's been training, but it's to master SSB. UIS is 50x CSSB, and MUI is 50x Sign. This may seem to high but I want MUI to be somewhere in the ballpark of Blue Fusions, as that's how strong Heroes kinda portrays it, and it seems to be the implication even in canon. This means, because of how ridiculously strong Gogeta scales in Broly, the multipliers have to be this huge. Plus, it kinda fits with the anime's scaling, since Sign is at least over 20x (due to the Kaioken). Goku also uses a pseudo-Kaioken in the manga. Evolution's multiplier I think increases in the Granolah arc to be equal to Sign's, but in this arc, Jiren outright admits that Sign is stronger. I think a 20x multiplier to match SSBKKx20 like the anime works fine for now.

Gohan got his groove back and matches Kefla, just slightly below CSSB. Piccolo got a slight power boost once again. It hurts me to do this to Piccolo since he actually seems to be somewhat relative to Ultimate Gohan in the Moro arc, and in the anime he outright overpowers SS2 Gohan in their training, but in Superhero he seems to be back to being below a rusty SS Gohan, so he's obviously not as strong as we all think. The most I can give him is enough motivation to at least match Frost from back in the U6 arc. I think that's fair, since he defeats Bergamo easily, who managed to tank a full-power blast from Frost; he also seems even with Hyssop (U9) with whom Frost struggled for a bit. Even back in the U6 arc, they weren't that far apart.

The artificial humans are hard to scale too, since again, in the Moro arc #17 and #18 are both relative and Moro praises them both, but we know 17 is far beyond his sister. Whatever Goku means by "he's as strong as us" obviously doesn't mean CSSB, since #17 plays it sneakily and avoids big confrontations in the manga. If you want to grant him SSB tier in the anime, sure, but in the manga the most he does is tire out Dyspo and scare SS3 Goku. I think slotting him in at that incomplete SSB tier works well for him. I can't in good conscience have #18 over Piccolo, and I don't think either of the two are SS tier at all.

The humans at this point could probably range anywhere from the low millions to 30M, but I've decided to be conservative since they haven't been training much. I think this is a fair middle ground, the Saiyans are still stronger, but they can give them a good run for their money in base form with strategy and techniques. Yamcha in the next arc states he's still a top 3 Earthling, so despite his form, Roshi should be still weaker.

Freeza now matches CSSB with his Golden Form, which in the manga does not receive an updated name, but should be the same thing as True Golden Freeza. As I said back in the RF arc, Freeza can't be much stronger than SS2/SS3 tier at most, since he gets damaged by SS Caulifla's full-powered attack and is forced to transform. Even if he's distracted or off-guard, that's still a considerable anti-feat for SSG-tier Freeza.

//

Universe 9:

Bergamo: 1.750.000.000
Basil: 1.600.000.000
Lavender: 1.200.000.000

Rozelle: 1.000.000.000
Hyssop: 2.000.000.000
Comfrey: 2.250.000.000

Chappil: 250.000.000
Oregano: 25.000.000
Hop: 25.000.000
Sorrel: 12.000.000

Sidra: 40.000.000.000.000.000

The Trio de Dangers' teamwork can make even Ultimate Gohan struggle a bit, but they're all individually below SS tier since Piccolo defeats their leader easily. Even in the anime, Lavender can't match a blind SS Gohan, and Bergamo was also being toyed around with by SS Goku. It's only Basil after taking a steroid who can somewhat pressure Mr. Boo.

Rozelle manages to grab ahold of Piccolo and Hyssop also clashes evenly with Piccolo for a few panels, so they're surprisingly strong. Comfrey is perhaps the more surprising fodder, since he clashes evenly with Frost and forced him to use an explosive wave that expanded all his energy. Sure, Frost was tired, but they should still be close in strength. It's surprising that the Trio aren't the strongest in their verse, since that seems to be the implication, but Hysopp and Comfrey have much better feats. The Trio ran away when Frost was doing his rampage.

Oregano manages to hold base Vegeta for a bit in the anime. Chappil easily tanks base Goku's punches but gets overwhelmed by SS. Sorrel in the manga matches Dercori, and Hop matches Katopesla and can pressure base Vegeta in the anime. The fandom thinks Sidra is the weakest GoD. There's not much to point toward it, but his performance in the Exhibition wasn't great, so I'm inclined to agree. Overall, U9 probably comes out as one of the more balanced universes. A lot of the characters are in that nebulous gap between the base Saiyans and SS, and the weaker ones aren't complete fodder.

//

Universe 10:

Murichim: 1.500.000.000
Napapa: 1.500.000.000
Rubalt: 1.500.000.000

Lilibeu: 1.000.000
Murisam: 1.000.000
Zircor: 1.000.000

Dyrasem: 25.000.000
Methiop: 25.000.000
Dium: 10.000.000

Obuni: 3.000.000.000

Rumsshi: 90.000.000.000.000.000

Like Nigrissi, Murichim is done a bit dirty, because he's supposed to be an ace and the team leader, but doesn't have many feats. In the manga, he knocks Hop (U9) away very easily, and is then defeated by Gamisaras. In the anime, he's defeated by Freeza, but Vegeta wanted to fight him, so maybe he's a worthy opponent. He was also able to attack a Toppo suppressed enough to fight Magetta. Because he's the leader of the team, he should maybe be a bit strong.

Napapa is actually quite strong, too. In the anime, he manages to push SS Caulifla around for a bit. He also fights Basil evenly. In the manga, he fights Saonel and Pirina, but gets knocked out by Piccolo. Rubalt is easily defeated by 17 in the manga, and can give Piccolo a decent fight in the anime. Lilibel, Zircor and Murisam are fodder. Dyrasem is easily knocked out by Piccolo and base Ribrianne in the anime, but there's a panel of him fighting Botamo. There's a panel of Methiop fighting Zarbuto (U2) and he also deals with defenseless base Kale in the anime.

Dium's Ki blast in the anime threatened Kuririn, so he's not complete fodder. He even survived being rung out by #17 in the manga. Of course, the real star, is supposed to be Obuni. In the anime, he matches ultimate Gohan, but in the manga he shouldn't be that strong, since he's taken out by Kale easily, who's much weaker than Gohan. We see him fight Comfrey evenly, however, and he's the last non U6/7/11 fighter remaining, it seems he survived quite a few hits from Kale too. I'd say he's a bit stronger than Comfrey since that's the only character we see him fight in the manga.

Rumsshi is to me one of the stronger GoDs, because of how he was portrayed in the Exhibition. This universe I expected to be full of complete fodder, but it actually has 4 powerful fighters once you analyze things carefully, although the rest are basically useless. Before I get to U11, I think I actually prefer how the anime tried to beef up some of these fighters a bit more, because in the manga most are sub-SS tier and any Super Saiyan could have just powered up and wiped 90% of the roster -- and that's exactly what happened, although not just any regular Super Saiyan. Although that is perhaps more logical in-universe, it isn't as fun, even if I personally prefer the arc overall in the manga.

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Universe 11:

Vewon: 30.000.000
Zoire: 30.000.000
Kettle: 30.000.000
Kahseral: 10.000.000

Tupper: 1.250.000.000
Cocotte: 1.500.000.000

Kunshi: 200.000.000.000
Dyspo: 2.000.000.000.000
Toppo: 20.000.000.000.000

Jiren: 46.000.000.000.000.000

Belmod: 45.000.000.000.000.000

Most of the Pride Troopers are fairly weak but they manage to punch above their weight due to their impeccable teamwork. Vewon, Zoire, and Kettle don't have any significant feats. Because U11 is the strongest universe, I'll just grant that they're stronger than the average fighter - they could all overpower base Goku working together. Tupper in both the anime and the manga manages to overpower base Goku but is then picked up by #18 and SS Goku respectively. Cocotte manages to stand her ground against #18 in the anime, and in the manga she fights solo, so she must be quite capable. Kahseral is touted as one of the leaders of U11 but the fact he gets knocked out by Roshi isn't very impressive; even in the anime he doesn't amount to much. Maybe he's valuable due to his strategy and leadership, but he also comes across as quite narrow-minded in his fight with Roshi, though I guess he could be quite capable and just have a different mentality regarding fighting (soldier vs martial artist).

Kunshi of course has a great performance working alongside Dyspo in the anime vs SSG Goku and Hit. In the manga, he doesn't amount to much, but that's no reason to discount his performance, much like Maji Kayo. Dyspo, on the other hand, seems to have a fluctuating BP even in the anime. In the manga, he's scared of Kefla, so he's not at Gohan or Blue tier; even in the anime he could only keep up with Gohan and Freeza with his speed. The only indications we have of his strength in the manga are that he's way stronger than SS2 Goku, but not quite as strong as Kefla; he also tires from fighting #17. Like #17, that early incomplete Blue tier seems fitting for him.

It seems obvious Jiren is stronger than Belmod since it was literally stated, but with how Beerus has been a constant moving goalpost, that, by extension, also brings the other GoDs up by proxy. Especially Belmod, who seemed to be portrayed as one of the stronger GoDs in the Exhibition - at the very least, one of the more clever ones. "In combat skill alone," Toppo says about Jiren vs Belmod. It's arguable, whatever, I'd probably assume the gap isn't too big. I'll give the nod to Jiren but they're close enough.

Broly:

Spoiler:

Multipliers:

• Wrathful: Base x 10
• Legendary Super Saiyan: Super Saiyan x 2.000
• Hypothetical Mastered Legendary Super Saiyan: LSS x 2

Goku: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Broly: 470.000.000.000
-- Wrathful: 4.700.000.000.000
-- SS: 23.500.000.000.000
-- LSS: 47.000.000.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical MLSS: 94.500.000.000.000.000

Gogeta: 12.500.000.000.000
-- SS: 25.000.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 125.000.000.000.000.000

Gogeta's power is what bloats this list beyond proportion. Without his multipliers, I could theoretically cap the list off at the trillions. But the fact that he's SSB tier in his base form is ridiculous, even with the already decreased SS multiplier I give fusions. The only way I could make these numbers less ridiculous would be by giving the other forms reduced multipliers as well. And since I already decreased SS, there's validity in the argument that I could just go all the way. I'll toy with the idea later, because I don't really like this sort of scaling, because even the series doesn't support such a vast difference between Gogeta Blue and Gogeta SS, or Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue; Blue is still used by Goku to somewhat keep up with opponents at MUI tier later in the series (Granolah and Gas for example), and the Gammas can damage Cell Max, so it's not like there's such a huge gap between SSB Goku and MUI/Blue Fusions, at least not in Toyotaro's continuity or arguably Toriyama's -- I think at most Toriyama probably started viewing SSG as 10x SS and then SSB as 10x SSG as he wrote his scripts, but that's not really coherent with the multipliers we have, unless we think the SEG was wrong and SS3 is actually just 2x SS2 rather than 4x, that'd make things a bit easier to chew.

I think what irks me the most is the fact that SSB Goku and Vegeta were admittedly outclassed but not one shot by SS Broly. And Freeza of course survived an hour. This means there's a gap, but not a huge one. And then the movie doesn't make a big deal out of his next transformation, LSS/Berserker/FPSS or whatever. It's arguable if it even exists in the manga at all. It's hard to reconcile the fact Goku says Broly can be stronger than Beerus with the fact Broly is arguably surpassed by Moro, Granolah, Gas, Vegeta and Gohan in the next arcs, too. But we work with what we're given.

Broly's multipliers in Wrathful and SS are self-explanatory, then the LSS/FPSS multiplier was arbitrary but just enough to slot him in there as stronger than Jiren. Assuming that form is controlled, I can see a x2 multiplier pushing him near Beerus like Goku said, becoming a real threat Gogeta needs to put down, and still being of interest to Freeza currently. It's the only way I can see to make sense of the thematic implications and hints at Broly's power.

Continuing on the next post due to surpassing word count.

[Yuji]

Moro:

Spoiler:

On Namek:

Goku: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SS2: 7.400.000.000
-- SS3: 29.600.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 370.000.000.000.000

Moro: 150.000.000.000
-- Magic: 500.000.000.000
-- After Ki absorption: 1.500.000.000.000
-- After the wish: 10.000.000.000.000

Mr. Boo: 3.000.000.000.000

Vegeta uses SSBE to take out Moro after he reveals his magic for the first time, which is a bit overkill, since he later claims a much stronger version of Moro can be taken out easily by CSSB alone. It's a bit weird to have at least half an arc where Vegeta is significantly stronger than Goku, on account of having access to a stronger form while Goku can't use UI Sign yet.

Moro's power is straightforward for now. He defeats SS Vegeta, but is easily taken out by SSG Vegeta. Once he reveals his magic, he forces Vegeta to go CSSB/SSBE. He then absorbs Goku and Vegeta's Ki and gets a bit stronger, but is easily defeated by Mr. Boo. After the wish restores his powers, he's able to beat Boo, but Vegeta states he's still weaker than a Super Saiyan Blue. This leaves us with Mr. Boo's new powerup at somewhere in that 50x gap between SSG and SSB. Again, much like manga #17 and Dyspo, I feel that incomplete SSB tier in the low trillions is fine for him.

A quick note: when fighting Moro's goons, Goku gets one shot in SS3 by Saganbo. We know he's later powered-up by Moro, but if he wasn't being powered-up already here, this is a surprisingly strong random mook.

//

On Earth:

Yuzun: 25.000
-- Monster: 50.000

Yunba: 18.000.000
Shimorekka: 10.000
Bikkora Quoitur: 100.000.000
Zauyogi: 20.000.000

OG-73i: 50.000
-- Piccolo-copy: 2.500.000.000
-- Gohan-copy: 15.000.000.000.000
-- Moro-copy: 1.250.000.000.000.000
---- vs #17: 1.500.000.000.000

Iwaza/Kikakaza/Miza: 5.000.000
-- Fusion: 30.000.000

Saganbo: 18.500.000.000.000

Jaco: 2.500
Kuririn: 20.000.000
Yamcha: 15.000.000
Tenshinhan: 17.500.000
Chaozu: 50.000

Roshi: 7.500
-- Pseudo-UI: 12.500.000

Artificial Human #18: 1.750.000.000
Artificial Human #17: 2.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 2.500.000.000
Gohan: 15.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 45.000.000
-- CSSB: 22.500.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 450.000.000.000.000

Goku: 45.000.000
-- SS: 4.500.000.000
-- SS2: 9.000.000.000
-- SS3: 36.000.000.000
-- SSG: 450.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 22.500.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 1.125.000.000.000.000
-- MUI: 56.250.000.000.000.000

Moro: 1.250.000.000.000.000
-- 73-Moro: 47.500.000.000.000.000
-- Angel Moro: 56.000.000.000.000.000

Merus: 56.000.000.000.000.000

Never noticed how much powercreep there is in this arc but once you take into account the multipliers and lay it out in numerical format, it really is evident. Goku confirms 73 Moro is the strongest he's faced, which pushes him beyond Broly, and then he has another transformation on top of that. OG-73i's ability copies the person's moves and battle power as it is, that's what Jaco says. "Punches, kicks, everything" is the same. So when he copies Piccolo, he's the same BP as Piccolo. This means when Moro copies Merus, he's the same power as Merus, and therefore Goku in MUI too. Merus being this weak is a bit odd, considering he's somewhere in the mid GoD tier as an Angel, but I guess it works since he's just in training. I have no idea how strong he is as a mortal, I doubt we'll ever see him again to find out.

Everyone claims Vegeta's SSBE form isn't much different, so he still doesn't match Sign as of yet. Gohan & co all got a bit stronger from training too. Saganbo gets a power boost from Moro. This is the only time we actively see him boosting his minions, but I assume everyone got a taste, or we have to assume that either all the Galactic prisoners are in the millions naturally for some reason, far surpassing mutants and freaks like the Ginyu Force, or the humans still haven't reached the millions themselves, which, I guess, is also believable - but at the very least Kuririn was at 75.000 on Namek, which would still put all these goons even at a lowball at Ginyu - 1st form Freeza tier. I think Yuzun (Zarbon's race) may be the only exception to Moro's power boosts since he was the only one who didn't go to Earth; Shimorekka, too, since he scales to Jaco.

As for OG-73i's power, in base he does outspeed Piccolo, but he admits he was sloppy. In the next arc, Granolah takes out several of them all at once, and I doubt Granolah is in the billions before the wish - the world building of Universe 7 all uses Namek arc scaling still as a reference point. He then copies Piccolo and Gohan and gains their BP. He has Moro's power but gets defeated by #17. I think this is because he can't use his magic, or because he was already damaged from fighting Gohan and Piccolo. Vegeta also states on Namek that Moro is much weaker than a SSB, so because 73 can't use magic on the artificial humans, his power is greatly reduced.

I have no idea how strong Chaozu is supposed to be since we haven't seen him fight since the Saiyan arc. Ironically, he defeats probably the strongest mook outside of Saganbo, the Metalman. I'm not sure if he's as strong as Magetta, though, since U6 and U7 battle powers don't exactly translate evenly.

I won't give a number to Oob just yet, but at least potential-wise, he should reach the 40-70 quadrillion range.

Granolah:

Spoiler:

First Encounter:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan Blue Evolution: Completed SSB x 50
• Ultra Ego: SSB Evolution x 50
• Ultra Instinct w/ Super Saiyan (1, 2, 3): Super Saiyan (1, 2, 3) x 5
• Ultra Instinct w/ Super Saiyan God: Super Saiyan God x 10
• Ultra Instinct w/ Super Saiyan Blue: Super Saiyan Blue x 20

Goku: 45.500.000
-- SS: 4.550.000.000
---- With UI: 22.750.000.000
-- SSG: 455.000.000.000
---- With UI: 4.550.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 22.750.000.000.000
---- With UI: 455.000.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 1.137.500.000.000.000
-- MUI: 56.875.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 45.500.000
-- SS: 4.550.000.000
-- SSBE: 1.137.500.000.000.000
-- UE: 56.875.000.000.000.000

Granolah: 120.000
-- Post-Wish: 56.500.000.000.000.000
---- Cloned: 28.250.000.000.000.000
-- Two Red Eyes: 57.500.000.000.000

Gas: 250.000
-- Post-Wish: 57.600.000.000.000.000

Gas, flashback: 4.000
-- Berserker: 7.500

Bardock: 2.500
-- Saiyan Determination: 9.500

Goku and Vegeta have trained a bit. Toyotaro implied in an interview they're stronger than Broly now, at least the one from the movie. Goku's UI with his form greatly increases his battle power, but at MUI he still has stamina issues, so he gets one shot by Granolah, who gets stronger as he unlocks his second red eye. I don't think anything in the story supports it directly, since even in the last arc SSBE was a notch below, but I've equalized SSBE and Sign's multiplier for simplicity's sake. I assume if the anime ever adapts the Granolah arc and moves past Superhero using the manga basis, that SSBE and Sign will be treated as the same "stage" of power and SSBKK will be done away with. Merely conjecture though, and I don't think anything changes here if I gave Vegeta the same x20 multiplier as before.

I understand the gaps seem very small between all the characters, but despite the wishes to increase strength and the dramatic moments, all the fights were relatively balanced, even the Gas fights later on. As of Superhero, Goku and Vegeta still look up to Jiren as an ideal, so they can't be too much stronger than Jiren was in the ToP.

Bardock is a lower-class Saiyan who gets stronger mid-fight with Gas. I give him 9.500 to align with his BP in the Special. Gas and Granolah prior to the wish should be reaching the upper echelon of Namek arc battle powers. Oatmeel still thinks Granolah is no match for Freeza, and nobody knew about any other form besides his 1st form.

//

vs Gas:

Multipliers:

• Unfocused MUI: Sign x 30
• True Ultra Instinct: Sign x 40
• Black Freeza: Golden x 3.000

Goku: 45.500.000
-- Unfocused MUI: 34.125.000.000.000.000
-- TUI: 45.500.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 45.500.000
-- UE: 56.875.000.000.000.000

Gas: 57.600.000.000.000.000
-- Berserker: 58.750.000.000.000.000
-- Zombie: 58.900.000.000.000.000

Freeza: 30.000.000.000
-- Golden: 30.000.000.000.000
-- Black: 90.000.000.000.000.000

Goku struggles with keeping MUI at full power the entire arc - he admits it so himself, because he's not focused or in the right state of mind. So he adapts, and uses Sign. I'd just give him Sign's battle power but "TUI" legitimately seems to be a step above, since he even performs better than Vegeta in UE did, arguably. We know that MUI is still his peak though, so TUI has to be weaker, he just wasn't using MUI at full power until the avatar at the end.

Freeza is a step above everyone. He's now at a level "near" a God of Destruction, which is a very wide range, but I assume that promo line means Beerus.

Superhero:

Spoiler:

Multipliers:

• Beast: Ultimate x 3.000
• Orange: Ultimate x 3.000

Goten: 24.000.000
-- SS: 2.400.000.000

Trunks: 25.000.000
-- SS: 2.500.000.000

Fat Gotenks: 3.000.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 2.500.000.000
Kuririn: 20.000.000

Pan: 100

Goku: 48.000.000
-- SS: 4.800.000.000
-- SS2: 9.600.000.000
-- SS3: 38.400.000.000
-- SSG: 480.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 24.000.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 1.200.000.000.000.000
-- TUI: 48.000.000.000.000.000
-- MUI: 60.000.000.000.000.000

Vegeta; 48.000.000
-- SS: 4.800.000.000
-- SS2: 9.600.000.000
-- ESS2: 96.000.000.000
-- SSG: 480.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 24.000.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 1.200.000.000.000.000
-- UE: 60.000.000.000.000.000

Gohan: 38.000.000
-- SS: 3.800.000.000
-- SS2: 7.600.000.000
-- Ultimate: 21.000.000.000.000
-- Beast: 63.000.000.000.000.000

Gamma 1: 21.500.000.000.000
Gamma 2: 21.500.000.000.000

Broly: 590.000.000.000
-- Wrathful: 5.900.000.000.000
-- LSS: 59.000.000.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical MLSS: 118.000.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 3.000.000.000
-- Ultimate: 18.000.000.000.000
-- Orange: 54.000.000.000.000.000

Cell Max: 58.500.000.000.000.000

The kids shouldn't be much stronger as teens since they've been slacking on their training. Kuririn actually shows himself to be somewhat relative to the base teens in the Superhero prequel. It's kinda odd to have them at the same level as #18, but she's gotten definitely stronger, whereas they haven't fought at all, I wouldn't be surprised if they were weaker than her, actually. Regardless, even in the Boo arc they had praise for her. Fat Gotenks does better than the kids in SS did.

Gohan got a bit stronger, but should still be far below Goku and Vegeta in their equal forms. Piccolo got a bit stronger too, at this point he seems relative, albeit a bit weaker, to Gohan in similar forms (base/SS, ultimate, beyond ultimate).

Not sure what's going on with Broly honestly. In the manga it's not clear if the form he uses vs Gohan is SS or FPSS. I guess it can be FPSS, but not necessarily a "mastered" variant (like Grade 4 SS), just a "controlled" version, like Goku controlled his emotions on Namek when he went SS for the first time -- it didn't necessarily mean he mastered the form. From the scuffle, it seems Gohan > Goku/Vegeta > Broly > Piccolo for now. Incomplete Cell Max is weaker than Broly as stated in promo material, but should be stronger than Moro at least. Gohan in the manga actually struggles a bit more with Cell. Finally, the Gammas and Ultimate forms are all relative to Moro-arc CSSB now.

Because Vegeta uses SSBE vs Broly and Gohan, I'm starting to think maybe he improved his multiplier closer to be the same as TUI. But I guess we'll confirm this if the series ever goes on.

Daima:

Spoiler:

Goku: 32.500.000
-- SS: 3.250.000.000
-- SS2: 6.500.000.000
-- SS3: 26.000.000.000

Vegeta: 32.500.000
-- SS: 3.250.000.000
-- SS2: 6.500.000.000
-- SS3: 26.000.000.000

Piccolo: 900.000.000

Shin: 2.000.000.000

Glorio: 2.500.000.000

Dabra: 5.250.000.000

Tamagami 3: 5.400.000.000

Tamagami 2: 6.250.000.000
-- Neva boost: 8.500.000.000

Tamagami 1: 9.000.000.000

Majin Koo: 2.000.000.000
Majin Doo: 15.000.000.000

Kraken: 7.000.000.000

Mega child: 9.000.000.000
Mega adult: 18.000.000.000

Let's see how this list shapes up. I've been very wrong regarding my Daima predictions so far. Shin vs Piccolo vs base Saiyans is still a headscratcher, but Glorio did indeed force Goku to go Super Saiyan. Let's see how Piccolo performs. It seems everyone forgot Shin is a fighter or that he was supposed to be super strong. I have a feeling I'll have to change my BP for him.

I assume everyone got a bit weaker, but it's not stated how much, and it doesn't seem to be a hindrance anymore, so unless there's a direct comparison made in the next episodes highlighting how weak they became, I'll just assume they're more or less at the same level they were as adults.

And for fun, here's all the top characters in Dragon Ball ranked by my numbers, including the missing GoDs not listed in the ToP (though, again, their power is just headcanon for now), as well as the current cast in every form:

Spoiler:

Strongest Dragon Ball characters:

• Grand Priest: 250.000.000.000.000.000
• Zen'O: 200.000.000.000.000.000
• Whis & other angels: ~150.000.000.000.000.000
• CSSB Gogeta (Broly movie): 125.000.000.000.000.000
• CSSB Vegetto (Zamasu arc): 120.000.000.000.000.000
• MLSS Broly (hypothetical): 118.000.000.000.000.000
• Quitela: 101.000.000.000.000.000
• Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000
• FPSS4 Gogeta: 100.000.000.000.000.000
• Black Freeza: 90.000.000.000.000.000
• Rumsshi: 90.000.000.000.000.000
• Mosco: 80.000.000.000.000.000
• Geene: 75.000.000.000.000.000
• Champa: 70.000.000.000.000.000
• Gohan Beast: 63.000.000.000.000.000
• MUI Goku: 60.000.000.000.000.000
• UE Vegeta: 60.000.000.000.000.000
• Liquir: 60.000.000.000.000.000
• LSS Broly: 59.000.000.000.000.000
• Gas: 58.900.000.000.000.000
• Cell Max: 58.500.000.000.000.000
• Granolah: 57.500.000.000.000.000
• Angel Moro: 56.000.000.000.000.000
• Merus: 56.000.000.000.000.000
• Arak: 55.000.000.000.000.000
• Orange Piccolo: 54.000.000.000.000.000
• Jiren (ToP): 46.000.000.000.000.000
• Belmod: 45.000.000.000.000.000
• Iwan: 45.000.000.000.000.000
• Heles: 42.000.000.000.000.000
• Sidra: 40.000.000.000.000.000

As you can see, I used the old 6-10-15 scale from BoG only replacing SSG with current MUI. Of course, it's oudated, and it makes all the gaps very tight, but I think for the time being, it still works fine. Now, the current cast as of Superhero:

Goku: 48.000.000
-- SS: 4.800.000.000
-- SS2: 9.600.000.000
-- SS3: 38.400.000.000
-- SSG: 480.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 24.000.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 1.200.000.000.000.000
-- TUI: 48.000.000.000.000.000
-- MUI: 60.000.000.000.000.000

Vegeta; 48.000.000
-- SS: 4.800.000.000
-- SS2: 9.600.000.000
-- ESS2: 96.000.000.000
-- SSG: 480.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 24.000.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 1.200.000.000.000.000
-- UE: 60.000.000.000.000.000

Gohan: 38.000.000
-- SS: 3.800.000.000
-- SS2: 7.600.000.000
-- Ultimate: 21.000.000.000.000
-- Beast: 63.000.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 3.000.000.000
-- Ultimate: 18.000.000.000.000
-- Orange: 54.000.000.000.000.000

Broly: 590.000.000.000
-- Wrathful: 5.900.000.000.000
-- LSS: 59.000.000.000.000.000

Freeza: 30.000.000.000
-- Golden: 30.000.000.000.000
-- Black: 90.000.000.000.000.000

Goten: 24.000.000
-- SS: 2.400.000.000

Trunks: 25.000.000
-- SS: 2.500.000.000

Jaco: 2.500
Kuririn: 20.000.000
Yamcha: 15.000.000
Tenshinhan: 17.500.000
Chaozu: 50.000

Roshi: 7.500
-- Pseudo-UI: 12.500.000

Artificial Human #18: 2.500.000.000
Artificial Human #17: 2.750.000.000.000

Mr. Boo: 3.000.000.000.000

Shin: 2.000.000.000
Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000
Whis: 150.000.000.000.000.000

I spent a lot more time than I'd care to admit on this so I hope to get some good feedback, although I understand if you just disagree fundamentally with some of my scaling axioms.

[ZombieVito]

Alright, I've been working for the past week on my battle powers list. I'm trying to put together a list including all of Super and GT. A Z list would be easy(-ish) enough, but I'm trying to make a comprehensive scale for myself. Obviously, this means a lot of things will be up to interpretation and some liberties will be taken, but generally I'd like to establish a few things:

• Obviously, I'm open to feedback, though I will try to lay out my reasoning for the controversial debates (Dabra vs Cell, Shin's battle power, etc), as well as all the "headcanon" liberties I take (and why they may, or may not, matter);
• The list tries to minimize bloat as best as possible. It caps out in the quadrillions, which, honestly, is already far too high for my taste, but that's only because fusions (and DBS: Broly, specifically) made things hard. There are instances where numbers necessarily will blow up beyond my taste, but when possible, I will try to keep gaps low. I'm using 15-25% gaps as seen through the Namek arc as more than enough to overpower a single opponent, and unless the characters make visible or explicitly stated power-ups, they won't get much stronger via timeskips or casual training;
• Super is complicated to scale, so I will follow the manga (mostly) because it's more straightforward and has less inconsistencies. There will be some compromises with the anime though, especially with characters in the ToP who have no feats for example, but mostly the manga takes precedence, so if there's contradiction between the two mediums, the manga will be regarded primarily;
• Heroes/videogame scaling won't be taken seriously, but if they don't contradict anything in canon, and it makes thematic sense to me, I will use some of their scaling, for example: Blue and SS4 being comparable.

Artificial Humans arc:

Spoiler:

Freeza's invasion:

Mecha Freeza: 140.000.000
-- Suppressed: 70.000.000

King Cold: 70.000.000

Trunks: 3.000.000
-- SS: 150.000.000

Goku: 3.500.000
-- SS: 175.000.000

I've seen some people already having Goku and Trunks at >200M, but I'm taking a minimalist approach when possible. Freeza powered-up enough to where he's relative to Goku, but he's suppressed so Trunks kills him easily. Cold is compared to Freeza's suppressed state. Trunks is compared to Goku by Gohan - while I agree he's just referring to the Super Saiyan "type" of Ki, I do think it makes things thematically neat if he's equal to Namek Goku. Goku states Trunks was holding back, so he's not that much stronger.

//

3 Years Later

Yamcha: 1.440.000
Tenshinhan: 1.870.000
Kuririn: 2.000.000

Vegeta: 4.000.000
-- SS: 200.000.000

Goku: 3.700.000
-- SS: 185.000.000

Artificial Human #19: 90.000.000
-- Ki absorbed: 175.000.000

Dr. Gero: 100.000.000

Piccolo: 125.000.000

Trunks: 3.800.000
-- SS: 190.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 270.000.000
-- Future #18: 170.000.000

Artificial Human #17: 310.000.000
-- Future #17: 210.000.000

Future Gohan: 2.000.000
-- SS: 100.000.000

I think the only contentions here are if #19 and Gero are stronger than Freeza, and future Gohan. I choose to believe they're weaker than Freeza out of personal preference. As for Gohan, unfortunately he is weak in the manga. Trunks says he could handle at least one android, but Gohan couldn't even defeat #17 at half strength. This leads me to believe Trunks is already far stronger than Gohan was - although it kinda pains me to have him weaker than even Namek Goku, but that's just how things panned out. The anime version, however, would probably be similar to Trunks here or maybe even stronger. Piccolo should at least have surpassed Freeza and Gero confused Yamcha for Goku, so the humans shouldn't be that much weaker.

Since this is a holistic list, maybe Dr. Gero is too strong here, since Pan can handle him fine in GT Then again, Pan did defeat Goten easily in EoZ filler. Maybe they're both in the 10-30M range and only became a problem because #19 drained Goku and Vegeta? Would like to hear thoughts on this.

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Cell Appears:

Multipliers:

• Weighted Clothing: 1.25x
• Grade 2: Base x 75
• Grade 3: Base x 100

Piccolo: 250.000.000
-- Unweighted: 312.500.000

Cell: 225.000.000
-- Post-Absorptions: 400.000.000
-- Semi-Perfect: 625.000.000

Artificial Human #16: 400.000.000

Vegeta: 10.000.000
-- SS: 500.000.000
-- G2: 750.000.000

Trunks: 9.900.000
-- SS: 495.000.000
-- G2: 742.500.000
-- G3: 990.000.000

I think I gave Grade 3 a higher multiplier than most folks usually do but I like to keep it at a convenient number. Besides that, I think everything here is straightforward too.

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The Cell Games:

Multipliers:

• Mastered Super Saiyan: Base x 100

Goku: 21.000.000
-- SS: 2.100.000.000

Gohan: 29.000.000
-- SS: 2.900.000.000
-- SS2: 5.800.000.000

Cell: 2.500.000.000
-- SPC: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 15.000.000
-- SS: 750.000.000
-- G2: 1.125.000.000

Trunks: 14.900.000
-- SS: 745.000.000
-- G2: 1.117.500.000

Cell Jr: 1.250.000.000

Piccolo: 625.000.000

Now the first huge bloat, coming from Goku's power-up on Karin tower at 50%. I'm also in the camp that Trunks' reaction implies Goku's half power surpassed him and Vegeta. Maybe he was just comparing regular Super Saiyan forms, and therefore SS Goku at 50% > SS Trunks, not necessarily Grade 3, but I don't think it makes much of a difference.

I've always believed Super Saiyan multipliers, ever since the SEG lists SS2 and SS4 as SSx2 and SS2x4 respectively, rather than x100 or x400, are variable and this has become, if nothing else, abundantly clear with Super, as in, for example, the Vegeta and Cabba fight. My headcanon is that MSS is the same multiplier as the Grade 3 form. The ROSAT training was based on improving Super Saiyan, so it doesn't make sense to me necessarily that their base forms would have skyrocketed so much. If you train your base, your Super Saiyan gets stronger, but if you train your Super Saiyan, all that means is your Super Saiyan gets stronger. To me, anyway. But I understand the opposite perspective.

Besides that, I think a noticeable gap between Gohan and everyone else is mandatory. I don't understand how some folks have Goku near Gohan at all. It's not noticeable if Vegeta and Trunks are using SS or G2, but I choose to believe they're using G2 since it's actually an efficient form compared to G3. Either way, they're still stronger than Piccolo even in regular Super Saiyan just for good measure, since Cell mentions only Vegeta and Trunks keep up with the Cell Jrs. In the anime, Piccolo does a bit better, so I understand why some may feel this number is low. I'm open to arguments, I can honestly have Cell/Boo arc Piccolo anywhere from 600M to over 1B, but unless Daima showcases anything differently, being outperformed by a rusty SS Gohan in ROF probably means that Piccolo isn't as strong as we'd like to think he is.

Majin Boo arc:

Spoiler:

Babidi's invasion:

Pui Pui: 10.000.000
Yakon: 800.000.000

Dabra: 5.250.000.000

Shin: 2.000.000.000

Trunks: 11.000.000
-- SS: 1.100.000.000

Goten: 10.500.000
-- SS: 1.050.000.000

Piccolo: 800.000.000

Gohan: 25.000.000
-- SS: 2.500.000.000
-- SS2: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 28.000.000
-- SS: 2.800.000.000
-- SS2: 5.600.000.000

Majin Vegeta: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000

Goku: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000
-- SS3: 24.000.000.000

Fat Boo: 20.000.000.000

A couple of things to note here: firstly, the old Shin vs Piccolo debate. There's a Spanish guidebook that places Shin at CG Goku's level. Because of how well Shin handles Gohan, Dabra and Boo, I'd wager they're right, and that Piccolo's comment is truly about his power, rather than status. This leaves the base Saiyans in a weird position. Later on in the list, I'll introduce the common "Saiya power" concept that some folks use, but honestly I could use it here, since there are a lot of implications in the Boo arc (and later on in Super and Daima too) that seem to point toward the base Saiyans not only being stronger than Freeza, but stronger than even Piccolo and Shin too. Only because I'm not sure I like the idea of the Saiyans becoming 50-100x stronger in one single arc, even though CG Gohan is still a measuring stick well into the Boo arc, I won't grant them that power.

Though of course this leaves things complicated on how to scale Piccolo and Shin later on in the series, but we'll get to it later. As for the kids, I've always held them in high regard, near Boo arc Gohan, but considering how they seem to struggle with the Cell Jrs in Super, I can't place them that high, unless we believe Gohan in the beginning of the arc was just that much weaker than the version we saw later vs Boo. Some may argue they shouldn't be stronger than Piccolo based on Super Boo's appearance, but he was shocked at their strength, called them the last hope before knowing about fusion, they surprised Vegeta and Gohan, and they handled multiple Cell Jrs at once later. The signs seem to point toward them being stronger.

Goku's SS power fits in with the 3000 Killis coincidentally, so I gave Yakon 800 million, since his Killis were read at 800. Dabra's power seems to be firmly within the SS2 tier after Super, where, a future Trunks comparable to Zamasu arc Goku and stated to be stronger than CG Gohan, could not defeat him without SS2. This isn't just rusty SS Boo arc Gohan struggling anymore, so we can't deny he was being compared to SPC. This leaves a narrow window to fit the Tamagamis later on in the list, but I'll manage.

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Absorptions & Fusions:

Multipliers:

• Fusion Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Full Power Super Saiyan 3: Super Saiyan 3 x 4

Gohan: 32.000.000
-- SS: 3.200.000.000
-- SS2: 6.400.000.000
-- Ultimate: 130.000.000.000

Trunks: 14.000.000
-- SS: 1.400.000.000

Goten: 13.500.000
-- SS: 1.350.000.000

Evil Boo: 12.500.000.000
Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Gotenks: 6.250.000.000
-- SS: 12.500.000.000
-- SS3: 100.000.000.000

Super Boo: 90.000.000.000
-- Gotenks: 190.000.000.000
-- Gohan: 220.000.000.000

Vegetto: 850.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.700.000.000.000

Kid Boo: 25.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical Full Power: 70.000.000.000

Hypothetical FPSS3 Goku: 96.000.000.000

These are Gohan, Trunks and Goten's updated numbers following their training. The old tired SS3 Goku vs Gotenks vs Gohan debate will of course rage on, but I've settled on Gohan > SS3 Gotenks > SS3 Goku > SS Gotenks. Gotenks is strong enough in SS that a hypothetical SS2 would defeat Boo, as per Goku's estimation. But I don't think you can ignore all the implications of SS3 Gotenks and Gohan being stronger, even if the anime and post-Boo material do their best to make it look like Goku's the strongest. I think a combination of Gohan losing ultimate and getting rusty, and Gotenks not being considered his own entity, would account for all the "Goku's number 1" statements post-Boo.

So the points of contention here are the fusion battle powers in base form. I will apply this to GT's base Saiyans later, but essentially I'm taking the old "Saiya power" concept, that some Saiyans that can turn Super Saiyan can use a portion of Super Saiyan power in base form - in this case, it's 50%; Vegetto's "real" base form would be at 17 billion, and Gotenks would be 125 million. This explains why nobody uses Kaioken in base later, as well as all the super strong base Saiyan scenes from Toei filler, the Super anime, etc. Of course, this is headcanon, especially here in the Boo arc. But it's a way only to keep things tidy and reduce bloat. I could essentially arrive at all the same "tiers" and place all the characters where I want them using conventional multipliers.

Daizenshuu states Gotenks surpassed Vegeta after the ROSAT training. I've seen some people interpret this as their base forms, or SS Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta, but I think only base Gotenks was pictured.

Some may snark at Vegetto being this strong, but 1. I definitely believe the GT Perfect Files comparison to SS4 Goku, 2. Vegetto was essentially toying with Boohan to get absorbed, so we never saw him at full power, and 3. in the anime, he was already toying with Boohan in base. The gap between the two may be ridiculous, but nothing outright contradicts it.

Ultimate as we will see in Super has a variable multiplier, so none was given here to avoid headaches. I would like, however, to propose a SS3 x4 multiplier for a hypothetical Full Power SS3 that Goku tried to achieve in the Boo fight. This would multiply his 24B by 4 and place him at full power at 96 billion, which is closer to Gotenks' and Gohan's 100 and 130 respectively. This could also thereby boost Kid Boo's battle power to the 50-90 billion range, pushing him closer to Super Boo to align with the filler scaling. I'll probably play with this theory more in the future, but because no "FPSS3" exists even in Heroes, I don't feel comfortable incorporating it into my numbers for the time being.

Dragon Ball GT:

Spoiler:

Baby arc:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Golden Oozaru: Super Saiyan x 10
• Super Saiyan 4: Golden Oozaru x 10
• Full Power Super Saiyan 4: Super Saiyan 4 x 10
• Super Baby 1: Base x 2
• Super Baby 2: Super Baby 1 x 4

Ledgic: 6.500.000.000

Goku: 8.500.000.000
-- SS: 17.000.000.000
-- SS2: 34.000.000.000
-- SS3: 136.000.000.000
-- GO: 170.000.000.000
---- Enraged: 850.000.000.000
-- SS4: 1.700.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 17.000.000.000.000

Rildo: 8.000.000.000
-- Form 2: 16.000.000.000
-- Form 3: 20.000.000.000

Baby: 170.000.000.000
-- SBV1: 340.000.000.000
-- SBV2: 1.360.000.000.000
-- GO: 1.700.000.000.000

Oob: 10.000.000.000
-- Majoob: 1.000.000.000.000

GT scaling is actually decent, all things considered, when it comes to how it compares itself to the Z characters. I've debated at length over the last few weeks the Blue vs SS4/Vegetto vs SS4 issue, so I won't lay out my arguments again here. I think GT definitely subscribes to the notion that SS multipliers are lower, and this becomes even clearer the next arc, but to reiterate what I said above: I could still have everyone at the same "tier" of strength using conventional multipliers, I just choose to do this for the sake of decreasing bloat. The numbers may change, but the scaling itself would remain the same, I'd just have to add a lot more 0s to a lot more characters.

I believe one of the guidebooks state GO Goku was stronger than usual, which explains why he fought better against Baby despite the multiplier. "FPSS4" refers to the form that Goku uses in this and the Shadow Dragons arc when his friends give him energy. The form of Boo I chose for the Rildo comparison is Mr. Boo, it is to me the version that makes the most sense. My axiomatic tiers for the GT/Z comparisons are as follows:

Rildo > Mr. Boo
Baby ~ Bootenks/Boohan
SB1 > Boohan
SS4 Goku ~ GO Baby ~ Super Vegetto

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Super 17 & Shadow Dragons:

Goku: 10.000.000.000
-- SS: 20.000.000.000
-- SS4: 2.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 20.000.000.000.000

Super 17: 1.750.000.000.000

Majoob: 1.200.000.000.000

Syn Shenlong: 7.500.000.000.000
-- Omega: 75.000.000.000.000

Nova Shenlong: 1.900.000.000.000
Eis Shenlong: 1.850.000.000.000

SS4 Gogeta: 10.000.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku got a bit stronger, but not strong enough to where he's stronger than Majoob as SS, as some people claim. Super 17 takes a beating from SS Goku but later claims he was just letting himself get hit, it's not indicative of Goku's real power boost.

I'm unsure if Gogeta is in regular SS4 or not, it'd make sense if he's in the FP form off the bat. His number is severely bloated, I won't deny it, but it's only because I try to be consistent regarding the boost he gets over Goku & Vegeta with the DBS version's increase later. And as such, his base form battle power would be 50 trillion in this list, which is already near Omega's. Maybe fusions do need lower multipliers for the Super Saiyan forms. Spoiler alert, Beerus is 100 quadrillion, so at FPSS4, Gogeta would be the same level of power, fittingly with all the comparisons made between the two in the videogames.

Battle of Gods & Resurrection F:

Spoiler:

Battle of Gods:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan God: SS x 100
• Enraged Super Saiyan 2: SS2 x 10

Goku: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- SS3: 27.200.000.000
-- SSG: 340.000.000.000

Vegeta: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- ESS2: 68.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Whis: 150.000.000.000.000.000

Not sure how Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form works, but it seems to be a permanent power-up in the Zamasu arc, with a different multiplier than Trunks' already improved Super Saiyan 2. Odd, but it's what it is.

Of course the main pushback I'll get here is on the SSG multiplier. I know all the yadda yadda fusion won't work arguments, but at this point, due to how much stuff from BoG has been retconned, I think we can probably discard it. Fusions have shown more than once how absurdly broken they are, and later on in the series will showcase power greater than SSG in base forms. Yes, exponential and whatever, but I don't see why we assume that SSG > Vegetto if 1. all power-related statements in this arc have been retconned regarding Beerus, and 2. Goku could not defeat Beerus in SSG anyway, so all he said was "x can't beat Beerus, and y can't beat Beerus either," never directly comparing x to y. So while this may fly in the face of all fan scaling, I prefer it.

In the manga, the SSG was never absorbed into base/SS form. And even in the anime, it seems it was retconned or phased out eventually, or at most, only used selectively, so don't expect Goku's base form to become hundreds of times stronger past this point. Accessing SSG is still a vastly different realm of power compared to what came prior, and these numbers still reflect that.

I also see a lot of folks making a big deal out of Goku's image training at the start of Super to mean he got way stronger from the Boo arc, but the series also explicitly states multiple times they've trained their bodies to their physical peaks, and only mastery of transformations will get them any stronger. I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously that he can one shot Cell and Boo in Super Saiyan.

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Resurrection F:

Multipliers:

• Saiyan beyond God: same as SSG
• Super Saiyan Blue: SSG x 5
• Freeza's true form: 1st form x 10
• Golden Freeza: true form x 100

Goku: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Vegeta: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Kuririn: 10.000.000
Tenshinhan: 7.500.000
Jaco: 2.500

Roshi: 500
-- Max Power: 5.000

Gohan: 16.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.600.000.000

Piccolo: 1.000.000.000

Shisami: 1.100.000.000

Average Freeza soldier: 500

Freeza: 2.000.000.000
-- True Form: 20.000.000.000
-- Golden: 2.000.000.000.000
-- Anime: 20.000.000.000.000

Goku and Vegeta obviously used their SSG power in base in this arc, but this is something we never see in the manga, so we don't know the arc plays out. In the anime, it plays out the same as the movie, but again, I don't think they ever show this type of power again.

This arc is a mess for everyone. Freeza's power is another I think got silently retconned, by proxy of Goku and Vegeta's power being retconned. He doesn't fight Gohan in the RF manga, and in the movie only one shots his base form. In the anime, he defeats Gohan in SS using his first form, which I think should be accurate enough, since he should be stronger than Shisami at the very least. For his final form, in the manga, his best feat after this arc is handling SS Caulifla decently enough in his true form, yet still taking some damage from a surprise attack. In the anime, he apparently needs to transform to handle SS2 Cabba, although he almost begins a beam struggle with SS2 Caulifla. If we follow the 226x multiplier from 1st to 100% power from Namek, he would be well beyond SS/SS2 levels, even if we grant that Cabba and Caulifla are much stronger than this Gohan. Yet we know that Freeza can choose his suppression forms' power. So I'm thinking he didn't make the gap that huge this time. Maybe a 2x gap between every form.

Gohan, of course, is stupidly rusty. But still stronger than everyone else. Piccolo got somewhat stronger from the Boo arc, but again, I still fear he's not much up to par with anyone. Shisami is stronger than him, and Tagoma, although I didn't list him, should be comparable to Gohan in the anime version. The humans have improved somewhat since the artificial humans. Roshi tangling with the Freeza soldiers is a surprise for everyone, even if Freeza probably collected some soldiers weaker than usual on account of the rush. However, he gets visibly tired and starts struggling at a certain point, so he's still in their ballpark, rather than the low millions like the others who take out the soldiers with ease. Jaco is afraid of adult Saiyans back during his own story, so even if a few decades have passed, he doesn't seem like the kind to become stronger. I doubt he's stronger than FP Roshi, but could handle the soldiers better on account of having better stamina.

We know God is at least 10% of Blue's power from the U6 arc, so the multiplier can range from 2x to 10x, I just chose x5 as a middle ground. In the anime, that boost would be 50x already, so if you want to transpose these numbers to the anime, just multiply every SSB tier character by 10x. Freeza's power goes up x10 and x100 per transformation, for simplicity's sake.

Universe 6 & Zamasu:

Spoiler:

Universe 6:

Goku: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSG: 360.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Vegeta: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Piccolo: 1.300.000.000

Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Frost: 30.000.000
-- Assault Form: 60.000.000
-- True Form: 2.000.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 1.750.000.000

Botamo: 25.000.000

Magetta: 4.500.000.000

Hit: 1.800.000.000.000

Goku confirms they're near their peak at the start of the arc, so they won't get much stronger from physical training anymore. Botamo is weaker than base Goku, and so is Frost in his first form. Frost's second form forces Goku to transform, and then he does somewhat decently against SS Goku. I think 2B is a decent number, enough to somewhat keep up with SS but also enough to be competitive with Piccolo once he gets tired. I'm not exactly sure on Cabba vs Frost, but Frost only gets one shotted because he fought 3 people in a row. Cabba is also an unmastered SS, which explains why Vegeta can toy with him in SS despite confirming they're equals in base form. Magetta isn't strong enough to make Vegeta use SS2, so he's in-between the two tiers. I'd wager not as strong as Cell or Dabra, however.

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Zamasu:

Multipliers:

• Completed Super Saiyan Blue: Super Saiyan Blue x 10
• Goku Black's Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Super Saiyan Rosé: Super Saiyan x 50
• Mastered Super Saiyan 2: Super Saiyan 2 x 4

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- SS3: 29.200.000.000
-- SSG: 365.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.825.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SS2: 7.400.000.000
-- ESS2: 74.000.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.850.000.000.000

Trunks: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SS2: 7.200.000.000
-- FPSS2: 28.800.000.000

Zamasu: 6.500.000.000

Goku Black: 17.500.000.000
-- SS: 35.000.000.000
-- SSR: 1.750.000.000.000

Merged Zamasu: 23.000.000.000.000

Vegetto: 12.000.000.000.000
-- Blue: 12.000.000.000.000.000
-- Final Kamehameha: 120.000.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Zamasu arc takes place at best a few months post U6, so I don't think they got much stronger at all, even with their mid-arc training which I will explain below.

Okay, for this arc, you have to make a lot of assumptions, because Toyotaro dropped the ball. The glaring issue is SS Goku Black defeating SSB Vegeta post-senzu bean, only for SSB Vegeta post-ROSAT to defeat him in Rosé. But the ROSAT training was implied to have only been to master the God-Blue switch, not making Vegeta hundreds or thousands of times stronger. Even if that were the case, Goku's training was just one day -- and in the next arc, he's Vegeta's equal despite being rusty at the start of it. So did Goku get a thousand times stronger passively?

I think they just worked on making SSB more efficient and their base power didn't really increase much at all, which means you have to start wondering how Goku Black's power works. To make things easy, I say he just gets 2x stronger from Super Saiyan and then stacks a x50 multiplier from Rosé on top of that. He's weaker than Blue, still. We see him defeat Trunks in base form at the start of the arc, but that was an injured Trunks who admits later he's already seen Black's SS form, so he was probably getting his ass beat by that form until he got so weak he couldn't transform anymore.

As for CSSB's multiplier, I've usually been conservative with it, but I've stuck with x10 to make it equal to the anime's x50 (once multiplied from the original x5 of the incomplete SSB) and also match it with FPSS4 from GT. SSG and SSB have always been portrayed as a completely different dimension from SS3 and SSG respectively, so the multipliers being progressively higher with each form isn't offensive to me, considering SS3 also had a higher multiplier than SS2.

The fact teen Gohan is still used as a measuring stick this arc leads me to believe Trunks isn't too far off from him. The Dabra incident occurred only a year prior in his timeline, so if he was struggling with Dabra, he can't be over 2x stronger than CG Gohan.

Zamasu is hard to scale, since Goku claims Trunks can handle Zamasu on his own, but still uses SSB and SSG against him. Of course, he toys with Zamasu in these forms, and he seems comfortable powering down to regular SS once he thinks the fight is won. Because in the second encounter he powered down to SSG, and not SS2 or SS3, I'd say he's probably in that SS2 ballpark like the anime version who fought SS2 Goku.

Vegetto is just overpowered. The multiplier for the final KHH is the same as CSSB, so that's how strong he'd be if he debuted the transformation right then.

Tournament of Power:

Spoiler:

Universe 2:

Ribrianne: 1.500.000.000
Kakunsa: 250.000.000
Roasie: 100.000.000

Zarbuto: 25.000.000
Rabanra: 25.000.000
Zirloin: 25.000.000

Jimeze: 30.000.000

Vikal: 1.000.000
Prum: 1.000.000
Harmira: 10.000.000

Heles: 42.000.000.000.000.000

The Tournament of Power is hard to scale in both mediums, because most characters are fodder and any performance can be judged on whether or not x character was taking it seriously, holding back, or fatigued, and a lot of characters can punch above their weight using unorthodox techniques, catching characters off guard, or using teamwork. As such, it takes a lot of guesswork to arrive at any concrete numbers and a lot of assumptions have to be made. I don't fault anyone for finding issues with my numbers, these are just the general approximations to certain "tiers" of power I got from their performances. I'll be drawing heavily from the anime here for a lot of characters who don't do much in the manga, but generally, if the anime contradicts a performance from the manga, I'll take the manga's portrayal primarily.

So Ribrianne is consistently portrayed in both mediums as around #18's level, since she's beaten by her. How strong #18 is right now is a bit nebulous, but I think she's significantly stronger now. Kakunsa and Roasie meanwhile don't have many feats, but as the Kamikaze fireballs, they should be the top 3 strongest in the verse. Kakunsa was strong enough for #18 in the anime to think #17 may need some help, so I'll just put her at Cell arc #17's level for simplicity's sake. Meanwhile Roasie is bested by base Goku in the anime, but he had to use strategy rather than just overpowering her. Roasie also manages to dodge a punch while smiling from The Preecho, who's stronger than base Cabba, so I guess this is a decent BP for her, I don't think she should be too much weaker than Kakunsa. The other two should probably be a bit more relative to Ribrianne, since they're able to hold #18 in place, but it's clear it was just because she was distracted, and she breaks free easily afterwards.

The next 3 are the fodder who take over the Kamikaze fireballs power-up in the anime, but they don't have that boost in the manga. They fight base Goku for a bit in the anime and manage to get the upperhand since it's 3v1, but they don't seem that strong otherwise. A notch below base Goku seems fair.

Jimeze gets knocked out by #18 in the manga in the first chapter, but in the anime manages to overwhelm base Gohan with IT, so he should be closer to the base Saiyans than the other three.

Finally the other three are fodder. Vikal has no feats, but I don't think any fighter in the ToP cracks below the 1M mark since most of them can probably destroy the arena's Katchin. I have no horse in this race either way. Because Roshi isn't complete fodder, maybe some of the weaker contestants are in the low thousands after all. Prum is also fodder. Harmira faces Tenshinhan in the anime, so he's somewhere comparable to the humans.

Heles' and most of the GoD battle powers is complete conjecture. She just didn't seem particularly strong during the Zen Exhibition, so I'm placing her among the weaker end.

Overall, quite a weak universe. In the anime, they get a boost from the Kamikaze Fireballs 2.0 and their black hole attack, but Ribrianne being their strongest fighter in both mediums is a bit underwhelming.

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Universe 3:

Katopesla: 25.000.000
The Preecho: 50.000.000
Narirama: 50.000.000

Nigrissi: 4.000.000.000

Maji Kayo: 1.000.000.000.000

Biarra: 2.000.000.000

Koitsukai: 1.500.000.000
Pancea: 4.000.000.000
Borareta: 1.500.000.000

Dr. Paparoni: 25.000.000
-- Anilaza: 5.000.000.000.000

Mosco: 80.000.000.000.000.000

Katopesla is unfortunately easily knocked aside by base Vegeta in the manga. Even in the anime, he can only compete with one of his super modes, which isn't present in the manga. The Preecho is surprisingly strong, getting the upperhand on base Cabba and forcing him to go Super Saiyan. Narirama is a bit of a nuisance in the anime, requiring Basil and Hit to take him down.

Then we have Nigrissi, who's touted as one of the strongest fighters in the anime, but gets knocked out by base Cabba. I think when this aired, everyone wondered if someone got the wrong script. I'll chalk it up to the anime inconsistency, or maybe he didn't expect Cabba to react to his sneak attack and got caught off-guard. Because in the manga, surprisingly, he is targeted by Jiren, alongside Maji Kayo and Pancea, after Goku in SS admitted he "wasn't even on his radar." That's pretty impressive, so I'll take it over his anime showcase.

Maji Kayo doesn't do much in the manga besides being targeted by Jiren as said above, but in the anime we all know he could hold down Dyspo and almost mutilated him if Jiren didn't intervene. Maybe he punched above his weight class because of his Boo-like abilities, but nevertheless I'd still say he's one of the stronger beings of the tournament.

Biarra can tangle with #17 and #18 at the same time. He staggers Magetta in the manga, and wants to face Toppo and Dyspo in the anime. He's also stated to be very strong defensively, and one of U3's key players.

Then we have the three fusion fodder, who don't do much in the manga. Pancea is targeted by Jiren, so he should be above SS tier, and the other are that strong due to being relative to him. Surprisingly, in the anime they do manage to fight ultimate Gohan for a bit, and are clearly stronger than the base Saiyans even before fusing, so I think this is a fair placement.

Paparoni isn't much of a fighter. I think he matches Rabanra (U2) in one of the manga panels. Anilaza is the strongest non-U6/7/11 figher in the tournament. Mosco was the first GoD to break Beerus' pseudo-UI, and also only got knocked down by 3 GoD attacking at once. I think he's one of the stronger ones.

Overall, U3 is actually pretty surprisingly strong, despite not being very relevant plot-wise in the arc. I'd say they're probably the strongest non-U6/7/11 universe in the tournament.

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Universe 4:

Ganos: 17.500.000
Caway: 1.000.000
Dercori: 12.000.000

Nink: 25.000.000
Shantsa: 1.000.000

Shosa: 10.000.000
Majora: 10.000.000

Damon: 1.750.000.000
Gamisaras: 1.250.000.000

Monna: 4.000.000.000

Quitela: 101.000.000.000.000.000

Ganos, Caway, and Dercori are some of the fighters Roshi defeats in the anime. He acknowledges both Ganos and Dercori are stronger than him. In the manga, they don't do much. Ganos is touted as one of U4's aces but gets defeated by Roshi straight overpowering him. It's odd because it's not like the anime where you can claim he defeats Kahseral or other fodder due to his skill/strategy, in the anime he just straightly overpowers Ganos with his Kamehameha, so it's hard to give Ganos any credit in terms of battle powers.

Nink matches Katospesla in the manga and in the anime can momentarily hold a distracted base Goku. Shosa and Majora are the characters Kuririn defeats in the anime, so they're not very strong. Shosa is also seen fighting Harmira in the manga, who's weaker than Tenshinhan. Shantsa has no feats.

Damon and Gamisaras are U4's aces, as they defeat both #18 and Piccolo. Of course, they were taken off-guard, as Piccolo can one shot Gamisaras with a Ki blast. Goku, however, praises Damon's strength. They're not very strong, but strong enough to knock characters like #18, Ribrianne and Piccolo around, even #17, so they're not fodder in spite of their abilities making up the difference.

Monna comes out as the real surprise. In the manga she doesn't do anything, but in the anime she of course takes care of SS Cabba and forces him into SS2. So even if that were not the intention of the writers, she comes across as the strongest fighter U4 has.

Quitela is the last man standing along with Beerus in the Exhibition, and it was stated he's his rival and also beat Beerus in arm wrestling, so maybe he's a tad bit stronger.

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Universe 6:

Multipliers:

• Kale's Super Saiyan: Base x 2.000
• Kefla's Super Saiyan: Base x 2

Caulifla: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 3.500.000.000

Kale: 4.500.000.000
-- SS: 9.000.000.000.000

Kefla: (7.000.000.000.000)
-- SS: 14.000.000.000.000

Hit: 18.000.000.000.000

Frost: 2.500.000.000
Magetta: 4.500.000.000
Botamo: 25.000.000

Dr. Rota: 1.000.000

Saonel: 2.750.000.000
Pirina: 2.500.000.000

Champa: 70.000.000.000.000.000

Caulifla is stronger than Cabba and should be a match for Goku, as per the anime. Cabba mastered the SS form since the tournament. Of course the difference here is they don't go beyond to SS2. Kale, meanwhile, is already stronger than Caulifla's SS form in base form. The LSS/FPSS/Berserker transformation is a 2000x multiplier on top of the base form. Kefla doesn't show her base form in the manga, but the number is there for reference; like in the anime, she's way stronger than SSG Goku. In the anime, she defeats SSB Goku, but he was tired from fighting Jiren, and Vados admits she's not sure she could defeat a fresh Goku. She later transforms into SS2 to fight Omen. I don't think she's as strong as the anime version, but that "very near SSB" tier suits her well, since Kale was already strong enough to knock around a distracted Golden Freeza/SSB Goku/SSB Vegeta.

Frost surprisingly puts up a very good performance in the manga, defeating U9 basically single-handedly and tanking a Shin Kikoho. He's still stronger than Piccolo because of how the Trio de Dangers reacted to Frost taking out the rest of U9.

Hit is now as strong as CSSB Goku. Dr. Rota is fodder, unfortunately for me because I find him hilarious. Saonel and Pirina are stronger in the anime, since they scale above Piccolo who's at least SS2 tier in the ToP, but in the manga, they're basically featless. Out of reverence for their role in the anime and the fact that they should be as strong as or even stronger than Piccolo thematically, they're at this level here.

Champa is weaker than Beerus but should still put up a good fight, as seen in the anime and the flashback over their birthday cake. Beerus seemed in control even in that fight, so when things get serious, Beerus is the clear winner.

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Universe 7:

Multipliers:

• Ultra Instinct Sign: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 50
• Mastered Ultra Instinct: Sign x 50
• Super Saiyan Blue Evolution: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 20

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 912.500.000.000.000
-- MUI: 45.625.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 370.000.000.000.000

Gohan: 35.000.000
-- Ultimate: 14.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 2.000.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 1.500.000.000
Artificial Human #17: 1.800.000.000.000

Muten Roshi: 5.000
-- Pseudo UI: 10.000.000

Tenshinhan: 15.000.000
Kuririn: 17.500.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku claims he's rusty at the start of the arc, so I doubt he and Vegeta have got much stronger - Vegeta's been training, but it's to master SSB. UIS is 50x CSSB, and MUI is 50x Sign. This may seem to high but I want MUI to be somewhere in the ballpark of Blue Fusions, as that's how strong Heroes kinda portrays it, and it seems to be the implication even in canon. This means, because of how ridiculously strong Gogeta scales in Broly, the multipliers have to be this huge. Plus, it kinda fits with the anime's scaling, since Sign is at least over 20x (due to the Kaioken). Goku also uses a pseudo-Kaioken in the manga. Evolution's multiplier I think increases in the Granolah arc to be equal to Sign's, but in this arc, Jiren outright admits that Sign is stronger. I think a 20x multiplier to match SSBKKx20 like the anime works fine for now.

Gohan got his groove back and matches Kefla, just slightly below CSSB. Piccolo got a slight power boost once again. It hurts me to do this to Piccolo since he actually seems to be somewhat relative to Ultimate Gohan in the Moro arc, and in the anime he outright overpowers SS2 Gohan in their training, but in Superhero he seems to be back to being below a rusty SS Gohan, so he's obviously not as strong as we all think. The most I can give him is enough motivation to at least match Frost from back in the U6 arc. I think that's fair, since he defeats Bergamo easily, who managed to tank a full-power blast from Frost; he also seems even with Hyssop (U9) with whom Frost struggled for a bit. Even back in the U6 arc, they weren't that far apart.

The artificial humans are hard to scale too, since again, in the Moro arc #17 and #18 are both relative and Moro praises them both, but we know 17 is far beyond his sister. Whatever Goku means by "he's as strong as us" obviously doesn't mean CSSB, since #17 plays it sneakily and avoids big confrontations in the manga. If you want to grant him SSB tier in the anime, sure, but in the manga the most he does is tire out Dyspo and scare SS3 Goku. I think slotting him in at that incomplete SSB tier works well for him. I can't in good conscience have #18 over Piccolo, and I don't think either of the two are SS tier at all.

The humans at this point could probably range anywhere from the low millions to 30M, but I've decided to be conservative since they haven't been training much. I think this is a fair middle ground, the Saiyans are still stronger, but they can give them a good run for their money in base form with strategy and techniques. Yamcha in the next arc states he's still a top 3 Earthling, so despite his form, Roshi should be still weaker.

Freeza now matches CSSB with his Golden Form, which in the manga does not receive an updated name, but should be the same thing as True Golden Freeza. As I said back in the RF arc, Freeza can't be much stronger than SS2/SS3 tier at most, since he gets damaged by SS Caulifla's full-powered attack and is forced to transform. Even if he's distracted or off-guard, that's still a considerable anti-feat for SSG-tier Freeza.

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Universe 9:

Bergamo: 1.750.000.000
Basil: 1.600.000.000
Lavender: 1.200.000.000

Rozelle: 1.000.000.000
Hyssop: 2.000.000.000
Comfrey: 2.250.000.000

Chappil: 250.000.000
Oregano: 25.000.000
Hop: 25.000.000
Sorrel: 12.000.000

Sidra: 40.000.000.000.000.000

The Trio de Dangers' teamwork can make even Ultimate Gohan struggle a bit, but they're all individually below SS tier since Piccolo defeats their leader easily. Even in the anime, Lavender can't match a blind SS Gohan, and Bergamo was also being toyed around with by SS Goku. It's only Basil after taking a steroid who can somewhat pressure Mr. Boo.

Rozelle manages to grab ahold of Piccolo and Hyssop also clashes evenly with Piccolo for a few panels, so they're surprisingly strong. Comfrey is perhaps the more surprising fodder, since he clashes evenly with Frost and forced him to use an explosive wave that expanded all his energy. Sure, Frost was tired, but they should still be close in strength. It's surprising that the Trio aren't the strongest in their verse, since that seems to be the implication, but Hysopp and Comfrey have much better feats. The Trio ran away when Frost was doing his rampage.

Oregano manages to hold base Vegeta for a bit in the anime. Chappil easily tanks base Goku's punches but gets overwhelmed by SS. Sorrel in the manga matches Dercori, and Hop matches Katopesla and can pressure base Vegeta in the anime. The fandom thinks Sidra is the weakest GoD. There's not much to point toward it, but his performance in the Exhibition wasn't great, so I'm inclined to agree. Overall, U9 probably comes out as one of the more balanced universes. A lot of the characters are in that nebulous gap between the base Saiyans and SS, and the weaker ones aren't complete fodder.

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Universe 10:

Murichim: 1.500.000.000
Napapa: 1.500.000.000
Rubalt: 1.500.000.000

Lilibeu: 1.000.000
Murisam: 1.000.000
Zircor: 1.000.000

Dyrasem: 25.000.000
Methiop: 25.000.000
Dium: 10.000.000

Obuni: 3.000.000.000

Rumsshi: 90.000.000.000.000.000

Like Nigrissi, Murichim is done a bit dirty, because he's supposed to be an ace and the team leader, but doesn't have many feats. In the manga, he knocks Hop (U9) away very easily, and is then defeated by Gamisaras. In the anime, he's defeated by Freeza, but Vegeta wanted to fight him, so maybe he's a worthy opponent. He was also able to attack a Toppo suppressed enough to fight Magetta. Because he's the leader of the team, he should maybe be a bit strong.

Napapa is actually quite strong, too. In the anime, he manages to push SS Caulifla around for a bit. He also fights Basil evenly. In the manga, he fights Saonel and Pirina, but gets knocked out by Piccolo. Rubalt is easily defeated by 17 in the manga, and can give Piccolo a decent fight in the anime. Lilibel, Zircor and Murisam are fodder. Dyrasem is easily knocked out by Piccolo and base Ribrianne in the anime, but there's a panel of him fighting Botamo. There's a panel of Methiop fighting Zarbuto (U2) and he also deals with defenseless base Kale in the anime.

Dium's Ki blast in the anime threatened Kuririn, so he's not complete fodder. He even survived being rung out by #17 in the manga. Of course, the real star, is supposed to be Obuni. In the anime, he matches ultimate Gohan, but in the manga he shouldn't be that strong, since he's taken out by Kale easily, who's much weaker than Gohan. We see him fight Comfrey evenly, however, and he's the last non U6/7/11 fighter remaining, it seems he survived quite a few hits from Kale too. I'd say he's a bit stronger than Comfrey since that's the only character we see him fight in the manga.

Rumsshi is to me one of the stronger GoDs, because of how he was portrayed in the Exhibition. This universe I expected to be full of complete fodder, but it actually has 4 powerful fighters once you analyze things carefully, although the rest are basically useless. Before I get to U11, I think I actually prefer how the anime tried to beef up some of these fighters a bit more, because in the manga most are sub-SS tier and any Super Saiyan could have just powered up and wiped 90% of the roster -- and that's exactly what happened, although not just any regular Super Saiyan. Although that is perhaps more logical in-universe, it isn't as fun, even if I personally prefer the arc overall in the manga.

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Universe 11:

Vewon: 30.000.000
Zoire: 30.000.000
Kettle: 30.000.000
Kahseral: 10.000.000

Tupper: 1.250.000.000
Cocotte: 1.500.000.000

Kunshi: 200.000.000.000
Dyspo: 2.000.000.000.000
Toppo: 20.000.000.000.000

Jiren: 46.000.000.000.000.000

Belmod: 45.000.000.000.000.000

Most of the Pride Troopers are fairly weak but they manage to punch above their weight due to their impeccable teamwork. Vewon, Zoire, and Kettle don't have any significant feats. Because U11 is the strongest universe, I'll just grant that they're stronger than the average fighter - they could all overpower base Goku working together. Tupper in both the anime and the manga manages to overpower base Goku but is then picked up by #18 and SS Goku respectively. Cocotte manages to stand her ground against #18 in the anime, and in the manga she fights solo, so she must be quite capable. Kahseral is touted as one of the leaders of U11 but the fact he gets knocked out by Roshi isn't very impressive; even in the anime he doesn't amount to much. Maybe he's valuable due to his strategy and leadership, but he also comes across as quite narrow-minded in his fight with Roshi, though I guess he could be quite capable and just have a different mentality regarding fighting (soldier vs martial artist).

Kunshi of course has a great performance working alongside Dyspo in the anime vs SSG Goku and Hit. In the manga, he doesn't amount to much, but that's no reason to discount his performance, much like Maji Kayo. Dyspo, on the other hand, seems to have a fluctuating BP even in the anime. In the manga, he's scared of Kefla, so he's not at Gohan or Blue tier; even in the anime he could only keep up with Gohan and Freeza with his speed. The only indications we have of his strength in the manga are that he's way stronger than SS2 Goku, but not quite as strong as Kefla; he also tires from fighting #17. Like #17, that early incomplete Blue tier seems fitting for him.

It seems obvious Jiren is stronger than Belmod since it was literally stated, but with how Beerus has been a constant moving goalpost, that, by extension, also brings the other GoDs up by proxy. Especially Belmod, who seemed to be portrayed as one of the stronger GoDs in the Exhibition - at the very least, one of the more clever ones. "In combat skill alone," Toppo says about Jiren vs Belmod. It's arguable, whatever, I'd probably assume the gap isn't too big. I'll give the nod to Jiren but they're close enough.

Broly:

Spoiler:

Multipliers:

• Wrathful: Base x 10
• Legendary Super Saiyan: Super Saiyan x 2.000
• Hypothetical Mastered Legendary Super Saiyan: LSS x 2

Goku: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Broly: 470.000.000.000
-- Wrathful: 4.700.000.000.000
-- SS: 23.500.000.000.000
-- LSS: 47.000.000.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical MLSS: 94.500.000.000.000.000

Gogeta: 12.500.000.000.000
-- SS: 25.000.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 125.000.000.000.000.000

Gogeta's power is what bloats this list beyond proportion. Without his multipliers, I could theoretically cap the list off at the trillions. But the fact that he's SSB tier in his base form is ridiculous, even with the already decreased SS multiplier I give fusions. The only way I could make these numbers less ridiculous would be by giving the other forms reduced multipliers as well. And since I already decreased SS, there's validity in the argument that I could just go all the way. I'll toy with the idea later, because I don't really like this sort of scaling, because even the series doesn't support such a vast difference between Gogeta Blue and Gogeta SS, or Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue; Blue is still used by Goku to somewhat keep up with opponents at MUI tier later in the series (Granolah and Gas for example), and the Gammas can damage Cell Max, so it's not like there's such a huge gap between SSB Goku and MUI/Blue Fusions, at least not in Toyotaro's continuity or arguably Toriyama's -- I think at most Toriyama probably started viewing SSG as 10x SS and then SSB as 10x SSG as he wrote his scripts, but that's not really coherent with the multipliers we have, unless we think the SEG was wrong and SS3 is actually just 2x SS2 rather than 4x, that'd make things a bit easier to chew.

I think what irks me the most is the fact that SSB Goku and Vegeta were admittedly outclassed but not one shot by SS Broly. And Freeza of course survived an hour. This means there's a gap, but not a huge one. And then the movie doesn't make a big deal out of his next transformation, LSS/Berserker/FPSS or whatever. It's arguable if it even exists in the manga at all. It's hard to reconcile the fact Goku says Broly can be stronger than Beerus with the fact Broly is arguably surpassed by Moro, Granolah, Gas, Vegeta and Gohan in the next arcs, too. But we work with what we're given.

Broly's multipliers in Wrathful and SS are self-explanatory, then the LSS/FPSS multiplier was arbitrary but just enough to slot him in there as stronger than Jiren. Assuming that form is controlled, I can see a x2 multiplier pushing him near Beerus like Goku said, becoming a real threat Gogeta needs to put down, and still being of interest to Freeza currently. It's the only way I can see to make sense of the thematic implications and hints at Broly's power.

Continuing on the next post due to surpassing word count.

Goku only getting 1.05 times stronger in 3 years seems very, very unlikely.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

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On the Z portion I have a couple things to say about the Cell Saga. First off, I think Future Gohan should definitely be stronger. Bulma says Trunks isn't much stronger than Gohan. And when Gohan died, he was stronger than less-than-half Future 17. I say he's between 100% Freeza and Namek SSJ Goku.

What's up with Android Saga SSJ Goku? Is that meant to be his sick power? I guess you're trying to pander to the Sick > Yardrat crowd, but I think you should just bite it and make Sick Goku 130 million or so. Piccolo says Goku was really far from full power. Oh and you forgot to list FP Cell. I guess he's somewhere in the 3-4 billion range?

On Super. I think you can justify Super Vegetto > SSJG by assuming Goku was thinking about fusion dance (Which he hasn't tried yet and would expect a boost similar to Gotenks). I like how you listed everyone from the ToP, I've only ever seen one or two lists do that. Personally I just list the important guys (i.e. U7, U6, the top 3 of U11, Ribrianne and some U3 robots)

I went to reread chapter 19 because SSJ2 Trunks > Base Black really irks me, but you got away this time... Vegeta only confirms Black > Trunks after Black goes SSJ. I can spot a big mistake on the Granolah section though: TUI Goku was clearly stronger than Gas, as per Goku's own words.

Spoiler:

Personally, I think MUI Goku was unfocused from the beginning. With your numbers, I'd have something more or less like this:

Spoiler:

Unfocused MUI/Newbie UE: 34

Granolah: 30
~ Awakened: 36

Gas: 36
~ Awakened: 42
~ Elder: 52.5 (You forgot to list him btw)

TUI Goku: 42.6 (75% of 56.875)

[Yuji]

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On the Z portion I have a couple things to say about the Cell Saga. First off, I think Future Gohan should definitely be stronger. Bulma says Trunks isn't much stronger than Gohan. And when Gohan died, he was stronger than less-than-half Future 17. I say he's between 100% Freeza and Namek SSJ Goku.

What's up with Android Saga SSJ Goku? Is that meant to be his sick power? I guess you're trying to pander to the Sick > Yardrat crowd, but I think you should just bite it and make Sick Goku 130 million or so. Piccolo says Goku was really far from full power. Oh and you forgot to list FP Cell. I guess he's somewhere in the 3-4 billion range?

On Super. I think you can justify Super Vegetto > SSJG by assuming Goku was thinking about fusion dance (Which he hasn't tried yet and would expect a boost similar to Gotenks). I like how you listed everyone from the ToP, I've only ever seen one or two lists do that. Personally I just list the important guys (i.e. U7, U6, the top 3 of U11, Ribrianne and some U3 robots)

I went to reread chapter 19 because SSJ2 Trunks > Base Black really irks me, but you got away this time... Vegeta only confirms Black > Trunks after Black goes SSJ. I can spot a big mistake on the Granolah section though: TUI Goku was clearly stronger than Gas, as per Goku's own words.

Spoiler:

Personally, I think MUI Goku was unfocused from the beginning. With your numbers, I'd have something more or less like this:

Spoiler:

Unfocused MUI/Newbie UE: 34

Granolah: 30
~ Awakened: 36

Gas: 36
~ Awakened: 42
~ Elder: 52.5 (You forgot to list him btw)

TUI Goku: 42.6 (75% of 56.875)

Granolah arc scaling is a bit weird. You have to assume everyone is at least stronger than Broly - but maybe Broly doesn't count since he can't transform at will at this point? But I'm not sure what use is "make me the strongest in the universe" if the results are "you're the strongest *while Broly can't transform, and only if Goku can't use UI properly." I guess it goes hand in hand with the other monkey's paw wishes.

You can't also necessarily assume they just got so much stronger from the Moro arc because they're still using ToP Jiren as a measuring stick even now.

But I think I agree with your general analysis. I'll tweak my numbers a bit.

[Koitsukai]

For the most part, I'm on board with it. Truth be told, after a while, there are too many serious for me to be able to keep track of them or to see how they fare with previous people.

Minor picks: how come Yakon is 800M, and Goku who faced him in base, is more than 10x weaker? are you assuming Goku was using KK? I'm still wary of having such fodder surpass Freeza by such a big margin, the Majin boost could help out things but I doubt these people got such huge boosts. To me Yakon is barely 10x weaker, 80M, maybe 100M... with the M on this forehead.

SS2 Gohan: Didn't Vegeta say that Goku was much stronger than Gohan 7 years ago? you have them quite close to each other.


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So, what about the movie villains? what numbers do we give Cooler, Metal Cooler, Broly, Janemba, Bojack, Super Android 13, Hirudegan?

I think base Broly, since he was no-selling base Goku's attacks, should be above the 100M. His SS form was unfazed after Vegeta attacked him, reminded me of Krilin and Perfect Cell, maybe around 1 or 2 billions. And then, the final transformation.
Narratively, Broly was meant to be on the SS2, SPC, Bojack tier, that is high-end late Chala-Head-Chala age.

[Almighty Majin]

I don't have specific power levels for movie villains, but I can do some approximate comparisons...
Curse of the Blood Rubies:

Spoiler:

Gurumes' henchmen are relative to first arc Yamcha.
Gurumes himself should be like a discount Buyon. I think he would probably beat guys like Giran and Nam, but Murasaki would cut him up.

Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle:

Spoiler:

Lucifer's demons are not very strong. Likely stronger than the average human, but that's about it.
Igor can lug around a giant syringe so definitely stronger than an average human.
Ghastel is probably relative to Giran and Nam, maybe somewhere between.
Lucifer himself I would have around General Blue, a bit weaker than him for sure.

Mystical Adventure:

Spoiler:

I think the villains are as strong as they were in canon.

Path to Power:

Spoiler:

Same as Mystical Adventure except the giant robot that Black uses at the end is certainly much stronger than the Battle Jacket he uses in canon.

Dead Zone:

Spoiler:

Nicky, Ginger, Sansho I think are all individually weaker than Kami, perhaps relative to or slightly above Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha from the 23rd Tournament.
Garlic Jr. in base is already stronger than Kami, I think he is 23rd Tournament Goku and Piccolo level. Super Garlic Jr. is weaker than Raditz, maybe has a power level in the 900s.

World's Strongest:

Spoiler:

The Bio-Men can be beaten by Roshi, they are lesser than the Saibaimen.
Wheelo's Bio-Warriors are Nappa level minimum... I think they are a bit stronger than him and have unique abilities that would allow them to beat Nappa with some effort.
Kotchin is weak, he'd get beaten by beginning of DB Goku.
Wheelo himself is superior to base Saiyan arc Vegeta. I would say he is relative to the likes of Zarbon and Dodoria.

Tree of Might:

Spoiler:

The Crusher Corps should be weaker than Saiyan arc Vegeta, but relative other elite Saiyans around King Vegeta's level and the like.
Turles initially should be stronger than base Goku (who I think is given a power level of 30,000 iirc) so I would say initial Turles is like Recoome level. After eating a fruit, he is above Kaioken x10 Goku so at that point he is above the entire Ginyu Force. Turles eats a second fruit, but it is unclear exactly how much stronger he gets. If you want to assume another 10x boost, he is above base Goku vs Freeza on Namek. Assuming diminishing boosts... I am not sure. At the very least he got a 2x boost which would then place him above first form Freeza.

Lord Slug:

Spoiler:

Slug Soldiers were defeated by Chi-Chi so they are probably relative to some of the higher ranking Red Ribbon Army combatants.
Slug's Demon Clan... I want to say they are Ginyu Force level, but that might be too high.
Slug himself is supposed to be stronger than Namek Freeza iirc. Considering Goku went SSJ (I know it's "false" SSJ, but it is narratively intended to be SSJ in the film itself), I want to think this makes sense.

Cooler's Revenge:

Spoiler:

The Armored Squadron are all stronger than Captain Ginyu I think. Salza might be relative to (but slightly below) first form Freeza based on his performance against Piccolo.
Cooler himself is a little tricky, but I think base Cooler is around as strong as suppressed Freeza when he beat up Vegeta while Final Form Cooler should be above Mecha Freeza and King Cold. I am tempted to say he is stronger than 19 and 20 as well, but I am not entirely sure on that.

Return of Cooler:

Spoiler:

Cooler's robot army are stronger than the average Namekian warrior. Three of them can slightly hold their own against a suppressed Piccolo (who should be post-Kami fusion here) although they get destroyed. I think that individually these robots are on par with the Armored Squadron, maybe a bit stronger as silly as that may be.
Meta-Coolers are probably relative to Androids 17 and 18. I think they're a bit stronger though.
Cooler as the core of the Big Gete Star is hard to place because he does not actually do much. Chances are that he may still be around as strong as he was in the previous film hence the easy defeat.

Super Android 13:

Spoiler:

Androids 14 and 15 are defeated by Trunks and Vegeta once they go SSJ so they're likely comparable to Androids 19 and 20.
Android 13 is a bit below 17 and 18. Super 13 is around 16's level imo.

Broly:

Spoiler:

Paragus' goons should be like Freeza Soldier level. Paragus himself should at least be relative to Bardock. After surviving King Vegeta's attempt to execute him, he likely got stronger when he recovered so maybe he surpassed King Vegeta.
Base Broly... Idk really. SSJ Broly is probably comparable to a suppressed Perfect Cell while LSSJ Broly is on par with full power Perfect Cell. I do not think he is quite SPC level, somewhere between Perfect Cell and SPC.

Bojack Unbound:

Spoiler:

Bojack's squad are probably relative to Semi-Perfect Cell.
Bojack himself is like suppressed Perfect Cell and slightly below SPC at full power.

Broly 2:

Spoiler:

Broly here in LSSJ should be beyond SPC and Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan. I think he might be comparable to initial Majin Buu. Gohan had actually been training in this movie and he still lost in SSJ2 even with help from Goten and Trunks.

Bio-Broly:

Spoiler:

The Bio-Warriors are stronger than Mr. Satan at the very least. Other than that... Idk.
Bio-Broly himself is bare minimum a lesser version of his movie 8 self. At most, he ends up being stronger than Broly 2 which I think is insane and I do not quite believe, but I have seen some people claim this.

Fusion Reborn:

Spoiler:

Janemba is roughly around Fat Buu level. Super Janemba should be Super Buu level at the minimum. Supposedly, there is one claim of Janemba being stronger than Hirudegarn because he is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. If this is indeed true, this also implies that Janemba can also just straight up tank the Dragon Fist and would probably be Buuhan level or above.

Wrath of the Dragon:

Spoiler:

Hoi is Babidi level.
Hirudegarn is roughly Super Buu level in base while his transformed state is Buuhan level.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Granolah arc scaling is a bit weird. You have to assume everyone is at least stronger than Broly - but maybe Broly doesn't count since he can't transform at will at this point? But I'm not sure what use is "make me the strongest in the universe" if the results are "you're the strongest *while Broly can't transform, and only if Goku can't use UI properly." I guess it goes hand in hand with the other monkey's paw wishes.

You can't also necessarily assume they just got so much stronger from the Moro arc because they're still using ToP Jiren as a measuring stick even now.

But I think I agree with your general analysis. I'll tweak my numbers a bit.

I can understand Broly not counting since he can’t transform at will, but UI Goku handling Gas like a ragdoll is very confusing. For me the monkey paw here is that Granolah and Gas were the strongest, but didn’t know how to tap or use their powers until the very end. Gas losing to Granolah fresh off his wish shows how important mastery over your power is. That seems to be a theme in the saga, with Goku and Vegeta also struggling to use their Ultra forms.

The way I see it, G&G don’t use their full powers until the end of the saga (Granny when he focuses it all into that blast and Gas in his zombie form). Before that all 4 players were in a run to see who adapts to their new powers first.

I have Jiren beneath 73 Moro, but I still like to keep him as relevant as possible since he’s GoD tier too. They only bring him up because of his Ki control and the movie even goes on to downplay his strength.

[Haighter]

Alright, I've been working for the past week on my battle powers list. I'm trying to put together a list including all of Super and GT. A Z list would be easy(-ish) enough, but I'm trying to make a comprehensive scale for myself. Obviously, this means a lot of things will be up to interpretation and some liberties will be taken, but generally I'd like to establish a few things:

• Obviously, I'm open to feedback, though I will try to lay out my reasoning for the controversial debates (Dabra vs Cell, Shin's battle power, etc), as well as all the "headcanon" liberties I take (and why they may, or may not, matter);
• The list tries to minimize bloat as best as possible. It caps out in the quadrillions, which, honestly, is already far too high for my taste, but that's only because fusions (and DBS: Broly, specifically) made things hard. There are instances where numbers necessarily will blow up beyond my taste, but when possible, I will try to keep gaps low. I'm using 15-25% gaps as seen through the Namek arc as more than enough to overpower a single opponent, and unless the characters make visible or explicitly stated power-ups, they won't get much stronger via timeskips or casual training;
• Super is complicated to scale, so I will follow the manga (mostly) because it's more straightforward and has less inconsistencies. There will be some compromises with the anime though, especially with characters in the ToP who have no feats for example, but mostly the manga takes precedence, so if there's contradiction between the two mediums, the manga will be regarded primarily;
• Heroes/videogame scaling won't be taken seriously, but if they don't contradict anything in canon, and it makes thematic sense to me, I will use some of their scaling, for example: Blue and SS4 being comparable.

Artificial Humans arc:

Spoiler:

Freeza's invasion:

Mecha Freeza: 140.000.000
-- Suppressed: 70.000.000

King Cold: 70.000.000

Trunks: 3.000.000
-- SS: 150.000.000

Goku: 3.500.000
-- SS: 175.000.000

I've seen some people already having Goku and Trunks at >200M, but I'm taking a minimalist approach when possible. Freeza powered-up enough to where he's relative to Goku, but he's suppressed so Trunks kills him easily. Cold is compared to Freeza's suppressed state. Trunks is compared to Goku by Gohan - while I agree he's just referring to the Super Saiyan "type" of Ki, I do think it makes things thematically neat if he's equal to Namek Goku. Goku states Trunks was holding back, so he's not that much stronger.

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3 Years Later

Yamcha: 1.440.000
Tenshinhan: 1.870.000
Kuririn: 2.000.000

Vegeta: 4.000.000
-- SS: 200.000.000

Goku: 3.700.000
-- SS: 185.000.000

Artificial Human #19: 90.000.000
-- Ki absorbed: 175.000.000

Dr. Gero: 100.000.000

Piccolo: 125.000.000

Trunks: 3.800.000
-- SS: 190.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 270.000.000
-- Future #18: 170.000.000

Artificial Human #17: 310.000.000
-- Future #17: 210.000.000

Future Gohan: 2.000.000
-- SS: 100.000.000

I think the only contentions here are if #19 and Gero are stronger than Freeza, and future Gohan. I choose to believe they're weaker than Freeza out of personal preference. As for Gohan, unfortunately he is weak in the manga. Trunks says he could handle at least one android, but Gohan couldn't even defeat #17 at half strength. This leads me to believe Trunks is already far stronger than Gohan was - although it kinda pains me to have him weaker than even Namek Goku, but that's just how things panned out. The anime version, however, would probably be similar to Trunks here or maybe even stronger. Piccolo should at least have surpassed Freeza and Gero confused Yamcha for Goku, so the humans shouldn't be that much weaker.

Since this is a holistic list, maybe Dr. Gero is too strong here, since Pan can handle him fine in GT Then again, Pan did defeat Goten easily in EoZ filler. Maybe they're both in the 10-30M range and only became a problem because #19 drained Goku and Vegeta? Would like to hear thoughts on this.

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Cell Appears:

Multipliers:

• Weighted Clothing: 1.25x
• Grade 2: Base x 75
• Grade 3: Base x 100

Piccolo: 250.000.000
-- Unweighted: 312.500.000

Cell: 225.000.000
-- Post-Absorptions: 400.000.000
-- Semi-Perfect: 625.000.000

Artificial Human #16: 400.000.000

Vegeta: 10.000.000
-- SS: 500.000.000
-- G2: 750.000.000

Trunks: 9.900.000
-- SS: 495.000.000
-- G2: 742.500.000
-- G3: 990.000.000

I think I gave Grade 3 a higher multiplier than most folks usually do but I like to keep it at a convenient number. Besides that, I think everything here is straightforward too.

//

The Cell Games:

Multipliers:

• Mastered Super Saiyan: Base x 100

Goku: 21.000.000
-- SS: 2.100.000.000

Gohan: 29.000.000
-- SS: 2.900.000.000
-- SS2: 5.800.000.000

Cell: 2.500.000.000
-- SPC: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 15.000.000
-- SS: 750.000.000
-- G2: 1.125.000.000

Trunks: 14.900.000
-- SS: 745.000.000
-- G2: 1.117.500.000

Cell Jr: 1.250.000.000

Piccolo: 625.000.000

Now the first huge bloat, coming from Goku's power-up on Karin tower at 50%. I'm also in the camp that Trunks' reaction implies Goku's half power surpassed him and Vegeta. Maybe he was just comparing regular Super Saiyan forms, and therefore SS Goku at 50% > SS Trunks, not necessarily Grade 3, but I don't think it makes much of a difference.

I've always believed Super Saiyan multipliers, ever since the SEG lists SS2 and SS4 as SSx2 and SS2x4 respectively, rather than x100 or x400, are variable and this has become, if nothing else, abundantly clear with Super, as in, for example, the Vegeta and Cabba fight. My headcanon is that MSS is the same multiplier as the Grade 3 form. The ROSAT training was based on improving Super Saiyan, so it doesn't make sense to me necessarily that their base forms would have skyrocketed so much. If you train your base, your Super Saiyan gets stronger, but if you train your Super Saiyan, all that means is your Super Saiyan gets stronger. To me, anyway. But I understand the opposite perspective.

Besides that, I think a noticeable gap between Gohan and everyone else is mandatory. I don't understand how some folks have Goku near Gohan at all. It's not noticeable if Vegeta and Trunks are using SS or G2, but I choose to believe they're using G2 since it's actually an efficient form compared to G3. Either way, they're still stronger than Piccolo even in regular Super Saiyan just for good measure, since Cell mentions only Vegeta and Trunks keep up with the Cell Jrs. In the anime, Piccolo does a bit better, so I understand why some may feel this number is low. I'm open to arguments, I can honestly have Cell/Boo arc Piccolo anywhere from 600M to over 1B, but unless Daima showcases anything differently, being outperformed by a rusty SS Gohan in ROF probably means that Piccolo isn't as strong as we'd like to think he is.

Majin Boo arc:

Spoiler:

Babidi's invasion:

Pui Pui: 10.000.000
Yakon: 800.000.000

Dabra: 5.250.000.000

Shin: 2.000.000.000

Trunks: 11.000.000
-- SS: 1.100.000.000

Goten: 10.500.000
-- SS: 1.050.000.000

Piccolo: 800.000.000

Gohan: 25.000.000
-- SS: 2.500.000.000
-- SS2: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 28.000.000
-- SS: 2.800.000.000
-- SS2: 5.600.000.000

Majin Vegeta: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000

Goku: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000
-- SS3: 24.000.000.000

Fat Boo: 20.000.000.000

A couple of things to note here: firstly, the old Shin vs Piccolo debate. There's a Spanish guidebook that places Shin at CG Goku's level. Because of how well Shin handles Gohan, Dabra and Boo, I'd wager they're right, and that Piccolo's comment is truly about his power, rather than status. This leaves the base Saiyans in a weird position. Later on in the list, I'll introduce the common "Saiya power" concept that some folks use, but honestly I could use it here, since there are a lot of implications in the Boo arc (and later on in Super and Daima too) that seem to point toward the base Saiyans not only being stronger than Freeza, but stronger than even Piccolo and Shin too. Only because I'm not sure I like the idea of the Saiyans becoming 50-100x stronger in one single arc, even though CG Gohan is still a measuring stick well into the Boo arc, I won't grant them that power.

Though of course this leaves things complicated on how to scale Piccolo and Shin later on in the series, but we'll get to it later. As for the kids, I've always held them in high regard, near Boo arc Gohan, but considering how they seem to struggle with the Cell Jrs in Super, I can't place them that high, unless we believe Gohan in the beginning of the arc was just that much weaker than the version we saw later vs Boo. Some may argue they shouldn't be stronger than Piccolo based on Super Boo's appearance, but he was shocked at their strength, called them the last hope before knowing about fusion, they surprised Vegeta and Gohan, and they handled multiple Cell Jrs at once later. The signs seem to point toward them being stronger.

Goku's SS power fits in with the 3000 Killis coincidentally, so I gave Yakon 800 million, since his Killis were read at 800. Dabra's power seems to be firmly within the SS2 tier after Super, where, a future Trunks comparable to Zamasu arc Goku and stated to be stronger than CG Gohan, could not defeat him without SS2. This isn't just rusty SS Boo arc Gohan struggling anymore, so we can't deny he was being compared to SPC. This leaves a narrow window to fit the Tamagamis later on in the list, but I'll manage.

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Absorptions & Fusions:

Multipliers:

• Fusion Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Full Power Super Saiyan 3: Super Saiyan 3 x 4

Gohan: 32.000.000
-- SS: 3.200.000.000
-- SS2: 6.400.000.000
-- Ultimate: 130.000.000.000

Trunks: 14.000.000
-- SS: 1.400.000.000

Goten: 13.500.000
-- SS: 1.350.000.000

Evil Boo: 12.500.000.000
Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Gotenks: 6.250.000.000
-- SS: 12.500.000.000
-- SS3: 100.000.000.000

Super Boo: 90.000.000.000
-- Gotenks: 190.000.000.000
-- Gohan: 220.000.000.000

Vegetto: 850.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.700.000.000.000

Kid Boo: 25.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical Full Power: 70.000.000.000

Hypothetical FPSS3 Goku: 96.000.000.000

These are Gohan, Trunks and Goten's updated numbers following their training. The old tired SS3 Goku vs Gotenks vs Gohan debate will of course rage on, but I've settled on Gohan > SS3 Gotenks > SS3 Goku > SS Gotenks. Gotenks is strong enough in SS that a hypothetical SS2 would defeat Boo, as per Goku's estimation. But I don't think you can ignore all the implications of SS3 Gotenks and Gohan being stronger, even if the anime and post-Boo material do their best to make it look like Goku's the strongest. I think a combination of Gohan losing ultimate and getting rusty, and Gotenks not being considered his own entity, would account for all the "Goku's number 1" statements post-Boo.

So the points of contention here are the fusion battle powers in base form. I will apply this to GT's base Saiyans later, but essentially I'm taking the old "Saiya power" concept, that some Saiyans that can turn Super Saiyan can use a portion of Super Saiyan power in base form - in this case, it's 50%; Vegetto's "real" base form would be at 17 billion, and Gotenks would be 125 million. This explains why nobody uses Kaioken in base later, as well as all the super strong base Saiyan scenes from Toei filler, the Super anime, etc. Of course, this is headcanon, especially here in the Boo arc. But it's a way only to keep things tidy and reduce bloat. I could essentially arrive at all the same "tiers" and place all the characters where I want them using conventional multipliers.

Daizenshuu states Gotenks surpassed Vegeta after the ROSAT training. I've seen some people interpret this as their base forms, or SS Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta, but I think only base Gotenks was pictured.

Some may snark at Vegetto being this strong, but 1. I definitely believe the GT Perfect Files comparison to SS4 Goku, 2. Vegetto was essentially toying with Boohan to get absorbed, so we never saw him at full power, and 3. in the anime, he was already toying with Boohan in base. The gap between the two may be ridiculous, but nothing outright contradicts it.

Ultimate as we will see in Super has a variable multiplier, so none was given here to avoid headaches. I would like, however, to propose a SS3 x4 multiplier for a hypothetical Full Power SS3 that Goku tried to achieve in the Boo fight. This would multiply his 24B by 4 and place him at full power at 96 billion, which is closer to Gotenks' and Gohan's 100 and 130 respectively. This could also thereby boost Kid Boo's battle power to the 50-90 billion range, pushing him closer to Super Boo to align with the filler scaling. I'll probably play with this theory more in the future, but because no "FPSS3" exists even in Heroes, I don't feel comfortable incorporating it into my numbers for the time being.

Dragon Ball GT:

Spoiler:

Baby arc:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Golden Oozaru: Super Saiyan x 10
• Super Saiyan 4: Golden Oozaru x 10
• Full Power Super Saiyan 4: Super Saiyan 4 x 10
• Super Baby 1: Base x 2
• Super Baby 2: Super Baby 1 x 4

Ledgic: 6.500.000.000

Goku: 8.500.000.000
-- SS: 17.000.000.000
-- SS2: 34.000.000.000
-- SS3: 136.000.000.000
-- GO: 170.000.000.000
---- Enraged: 850.000.000.000
-- SS4: 1.700.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 17.000.000.000.000

Rildo: 8.000.000.000
-- Form 2: 16.000.000.000
-- Form 3: 20.000.000.000

Baby: 170.000.000.000
-- SBV1: 340.000.000.000
-- SBV2: 1.360.000.000.000
-- GO: 1.700.000.000.000

Oob: 10.000.000.000
-- Majoob: 1.000.000.000.000

GT scaling is actually decent, all things considered, when it comes to how it compares itself to the Z characters. I've debated at length over the last few weeks the Blue vs SS4/Vegetto vs SS4 issue, so I won't lay out my arguments again here. I think GT definitely subscribes to the notion that SS multipliers are lower, and this becomes even clearer the next arc, but to reiterate what I said above: I could still have everyone at the same "tier" of strength using conventional multipliers, I just choose to do this for the sake of decreasing bloat. The numbers may change, but the scaling itself would remain the same, I'd just have to add a lot more 0s to a lot more characters.

I believe one of the guidebooks state GO Goku was stronger than usual, which explains why he fought better against Baby despite the multiplier. "FPSS4" refers to the form that Goku uses in this and the Shadow Dragons arc when his friends give him energy. The form of Boo I chose for the Rildo comparison is Mr. Boo, it is to me the version that makes the most sense. My axiomatic tiers for the GT/Z comparisons are as follows:

Rildo > Mr. Boo
Baby ~ Bootenks/Boohan
SB1 > Boohan
SS4 Goku ~ GO Baby ~ Super Vegetto

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Super 17 & Shadow Dragons:

Goku: 10.000.000.000
-- SS: 20.000.000.000
-- SS4: 2.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 20.000.000.000.000

Super 17: 1.750.000.000.000

Majoob: 1.200.000.000.000

Syn Shenlong: 7.500.000.000.000
-- Omega: 75.000.000.000.000

Nova Shenlong: 1.900.000.000.000
Eis Shenlong: 1.850.000.000.000

SS4 Gogeta: 10.000.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku got a bit stronger, but not strong enough to where he's stronger than Majoob as SS, as some people claim. Super 17 takes a beating from SS Goku but later claims he was just letting himself get hit, it's not indicative of Goku's real power boost.

I'm unsure if Gogeta is in regular SS4 or not, it'd make sense if he's in the FP form off the bat. His number is severely bloated, I won't deny it, but it's only because I try to be consistent regarding the boost he gets over Goku & Vegeta with the DBS version's increase later. And as such, his base form battle power would be 50 trillion in this list, which is already near Omega's. Maybe fusions do need lower multipliers for the Super Saiyan forms. Spoiler alert, Beerus is 100 quadrillion, so at FPSS4, Gogeta would be the same level of power, fittingly with all the comparisons made between the two in the videogames.

Battle of Gods & Resurrection F:

Spoiler:

Battle of Gods:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan God: SS x 100
• Enraged Super Saiyan 2: SS2 x 10

Goku: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- SS3: 27.200.000.000
-- SSG: 340.000.000.000

Vegeta: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- ESS2: 68.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Whis: 150.000.000.000.000.000

Not sure how Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form works, but it seems to be a permanent power-up in the Zamasu arc, with a different multiplier than Trunks' already improved Super Saiyan 2. Odd, but it's what it is.

Of course the main pushback I'll get here is on the SSG multiplier. I know all the yadda yadda fusion won't work arguments, but at this point, due to how much stuff from BoG has been retconned, I think we can probably discard it. Fusions have shown more than once how absurdly broken they are, and later on in the series will showcase power greater than SSG in base forms. Yes, exponential and whatever, but I don't see why we assume that SSG > Vegetto if 1. all power-related statements in this arc have been retconned regarding Beerus, and 2. Goku could not defeat Beerus in SSG anyway, so all he said was "x can't beat Beerus, and y can't beat Beerus either," never directly comparing x to y. So while this may fly in the face of all fan scaling, I prefer it.

In the manga, the SSG was never absorbed into base/SS form. And even in the anime, it seems it was retconned or phased out eventually, or at most, only used selectively, so don't expect Goku's base form to become hundreds of times stronger past this point. Accessing SSG is still a vastly different realm of power compared to what came prior, and these numbers still reflect that.

I also see a lot of folks making a big deal out of Goku's image training at the start of Super to mean he got way stronger from the Boo arc, but the series also explicitly states multiple times they've trained their bodies to their physical peaks, and only mastery of transformations will get them any stronger. I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously that he can one shot Cell and Boo in Super Saiyan.

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Resurrection F:

Multipliers:

• Saiyan beyond God: same as SSG
• Super Saiyan Blue: SSG x 5
• Freeza's true form: 1st form x 10
• Golden Freeza: true form x 100

Goku: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Vegeta: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Kuririn: 10.000.000
Tenshinhan: 7.500.000
Jaco: 2.500

Roshi: 500
-- Max Power: 5.000

Gohan: 16.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.600.000.000

Piccolo: 1.000.000.000

Shisami: 1.100.000.000

Average Freeza soldier: 500

Freeza: 2.000.000.000
-- True Form: 20.000.000.000
-- Golden: 2.000.000.000.000
-- Anime: 20.000.000.000.000

Goku and Vegeta obviously used their SSG power in base in this arc, but this is something we never see in the manga, so we don't know the arc plays out. In the anime, it plays out the same as the movie, but again, I don't think they ever show this type of power again.

This arc is a mess for everyone. Freeza's power is another I think got silently retconned, by proxy of Goku and Vegeta's power being retconned. He doesn't fight Gohan in the RF manga, and in the movie only one shots his base form. In the anime, he defeats Gohan in SS using his first form, which I think should be accurate enough, since he should be stronger than Shisami at the very least. For his final form, in the manga, his best feat after this arc is handling SS Caulifla decently enough in his true form, yet still taking some damage from a surprise attack. In the anime, he apparently needs to transform to handle SS2 Cabba, although he almost begins a beam struggle with SS2 Caulifla. If we follow the 226x multiplier from 1st to 100% power from Namek, he would be well beyond SS/SS2 levels, even if we grant that Cabba and Caulifla are much stronger than this Gohan. Yet we know that Freeza can choose his suppression forms' power. So I'm thinking he didn't make the gap that huge this time. Maybe a 2x gap between every form.

Gohan, of course, is stupidly rusty. But still stronger than everyone else. Piccolo got somewhat stronger from the Boo arc, but again, I still fear he's not much up to par with anyone. Shisami is stronger than him, and Tagoma, although I didn't list him, should be comparable to Gohan in the anime version. The humans have improved somewhat since the artificial humans. Roshi tangling with the Freeza soldiers is a surprise for everyone, even if Freeza probably collected some soldiers weaker than usual on account of the rush. However, he gets visibly tired and starts struggling at a certain point, so he's still in their ballpark, rather than the low millions like the others who take out the soldiers with ease. Jaco is afraid of adult Saiyans back during his own story, so even if a few decades have passed, he doesn't seem like the kind to become stronger. I doubt he's stronger than FP Roshi, but could handle the soldiers better on account of having better stamina.

We know God is at least 10% of Blue's power from the U6 arc, so the multiplier can range from 2x to 10x, I just chose x5 as a middle ground. In the anime, that boost would be 50x already, so if you want to transpose these numbers to the anime, just multiply every SSB tier character by 10x. Freeza's power goes up x10 and x100 per transformation, for simplicity's sake.

Universe 6 & Zamasu:

Spoiler:

Universe 6:

Goku: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSG: 360.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Vegeta: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Piccolo: 1.300.000.000

Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Frost: 30.000.000
-- Assault Form: 60.000.000
-- True Form: 2.000.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 1.750.000.000

Botamo: 25.000.000

Magetta: 4.500.000.000

Hit: 1.800.000.000.000

Goku confirms they're near their peak at the start of the arc, so they won't get much stronger from physical training anymore. Botamo is weaker than base Goku, and so is Frost in his first form. Frost's second form forces Goku to transform, and then he does somewhat decently against SS Goku. I think 2B is a decent number, enough to somewhat keep up with SS but also enough to be competitive with Piccolo once he gets tired. I'm not exactly sure on Cabba vs Frost, but Frost only gets one shotted because he fought 3 people in a row. Cabba is also an unmastered SS, which explains why Vegeta can toy with him in SS despite confirming they're equals in base form. Magetta isn't strong enough to make Vegeta use SS2, so he's in-between the two tiers. I'd wager not as strong as Cell or Dabra, however.

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Zamasu:

Multipliers:

• Completed Super Saiyan Blue: Super Saiyan Blue x 10
• Goku Black's Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Super Saiyan Rosé: Super Saiyan x 50
• Mastered Super Saiyan 2: Super Saiyan 2 x 4

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- SS3: 29.200.000.000
-- SSG: 365.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.825.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SS2: 7.400.000.000
-- ESS2: 74.000.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.850.000.000.000

Trunks: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SS2: 7.200.000.000
-- FPSS2: 28.800.000.000

Zamasu: 6.500.000.000

Goku Black: 17.500.000.000
-- SS: 35.000.000.000
-- SSR: 1.750.000.000.000

Merged Zamasu: 23.000.000.000.000

Vegetto: 12.000.000.000.000
-- Blue: 12.000.000.000.000.000
-- Final Kamehameha: 120.000.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Zamasu arc takes place at best a few months post U6, so I don't think they got much stronger at all, even with their mid-arc training which I will explain below.

Okay, for this arc, you have to make a lot of assumptions, because Toyotaro dropped the ball. The glaring issue is SS Goku Black defeating SSB Vegeta post-senzu bean, only for SSB Vegeta post-ROSAT to defeat him in Rosé. But the ROSAT training was implied to have only been to master the God-Blue switch, not making Vegeta hundreds or thousands of times stronger. Even if that were the case, Goku's training was just one day -- and in the next arc, he's Vegeta's equal despite being rusty at the start of it. So did Goku get a thousand times stronger passively?

I think they just worked on making SSB more efficient and their base power didn't really increase much at all, which means you have to start wondering how Goku Black's power works. To make things easy, I say he just gets 2x stronger from Super Saiyan and then stacks a x50 multiplier from Rosé on top of that. He's weaker than Blue, still. We see him defeat Trunks in base form at the start of the arc, but that was an injured Trunks who admits later he's already seen Black's SS form, so he was probably getting his ass beat by that form until he got so weak he couldn't transform anymore.

As for CSSB's multiplier, I've usually been conservative with it, but I've stuck with x10 to make it equal to the anime's x50 (once multiplied from the original x5 of the incomplete SSB) and also match it with FPSS4 from GT. SSG and SSB have always been portrayed as a completely different dimension from SS3 and SSG respectively, so the multipliers being progressively higher with each form isn't offensive to me, considering SS3 also had a higher multiplier than SS2.

The fact teen Gohan is still used as a measuring stick this arc leads me to believe Trunks isn't too far off from him. The Dabra incident occurred only a year prior in his timeline, so if he was struggling with Dabra, he can't be over 2x stronger than CG Gohan.

Zamasu is hard to scale, since Goku claims Trunks can handle Zamasu on his own, but still uses SSB and SSG against him. Of course, he toys with Zamasu in these forms, and he seems comfortable powering down to regular SS once he thinks the fight is won. Because in the second encounter he powered down to SSG, and not SS2 or SS3, I'd say he's probably in that SS2 ballpark like the anime version who fought SS2 Goku.

Vegetto is just overpowered. The multiplier for the final KHH is the same as CSSB, so that's how strong he'd be if he debuted the transformation right then.

Tournament of Power:

Spoiler:

Universe 2:

Ribrianne: 1.500.000.000
Kakunsa: 250.000.000
Roasie: 100.000.000

Zarbuto: 25.000.000
Rabanra: 25.000.000
Zirloin: 25.000.000

Jimeze: 30.000.000

Vikal: 1.000.000
Prum: 1.000.000
Harmira: 10.000.000

Heles: 42.000.000.000.000.000

The Tournament of Power is hard to scale in both mediums, because most characters are fodder and any performance can be judged on whether or not x character was taking it seriously, holding back, or fatigued, and a lot of characters can punch above their weight using unorthodox techniques, catching characters off guard, or using teamwork. As such, it takes a lot of guesswork to arrive at any concrete numbers and a lot of assumptions have to be made. I don't fault anyone for finding issues with my numbers, these are just the general approximations to certain "tiers" of power I got from their performances. I'll be drawing heavily from the anime here for a lot of characters who don't do much in the manga, but generally, if the anime contradicts a performance from the manga, I'll take the manga's portrayal primarily.

So Ribrianne is consistently portrayed in both mediums as around #18's level, since she's beaten by her. How strong #18 is right now is a bit nebulous, but I think she's significantly stronger now. Kakunsa and Roasie meanwhile don't have many feats, but as the Kamikaze fireballs, they should be the top 3 strongest in the verse. Kakunsa was strong enough for #18 in the anime to think #17 may need some help, so I'll just put her at Cell arc #17's level for simplicity's sake. Meanwhile Roasie is bested by base Goku in the anime, but he had to use strategy rather than just overpowering her. Roasie also manages to dodge a punch while smiling from The Preecho, who's stronger than base Cabba, so I guess this is a decent BP for her, I don't think she should be too much weaker than Kakunsa. The other two should probably be a bit more relative to Ribrianne, since they're able to hold #18 in place, but it's clear it was just because she was distracted, and she breaks free easily afterwards.

The next 3 are the fodder who take over the Kamikaze fireballs power-up in the anime, but they don't have that boost in the manga. They fight base Goku for a bit in the anime and manage to get the upperhand since it's 3v1, but they don't seem that strong otherwise. A notch below base Goku seems fair.

Jimeze gets knocked out by #18 in the manga in the first chapter, but in the anime manages to overwhelm base Gohan with IT, so he should be closer to the base Saiyans than the other three.

Finally the other three are fodder. Vikal has no feats, but I don't think any fighter in the ToP cracks below the 1M mark since most of them can probably destroy the arena's Katchin. I have no horse in this race either way. Because Roshi isn't complete fodder, maybe some of the weaker contestants are in the low thousands after all. Prum is also fodder. Harmira faces Tenshinhan in the anime, so he's somewhere comparable to the humans.

Heles' and most of the GoD battle powers is complete conjecture. She just didn't seem particularly strong during the Zen Exhibition, so I'm placing her among the weaker end.

Overall, quite a weak universe. In the anime, they get a boost from the Kamikaze Fireballs 2.0 and their black hole attack, but Ribrianne being their strongest fighter in both mediums is a bit underwhelming.

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Universe 3:

Katopesla: 25.000.000
The Preecho: 50.000.000
Narirama: 50.000.000

Nigrissi: 4.000.000.000

Maji Kayo: 1.000.000.000.000

Biarra: 2.000.000.000

Koitsukai: 1.500.000.000
Pancea: 4.000.000.000
Borareta: 1.500.000.000

Dr. Paparoni: 25.000.000
-- Anilaza: 5.000.000.000.000

Mosco: 80.000.000.000.000.000

Katopesla is unfortunately easily knocked aside by base Vegeta in the manga. Even in the anime, he can only compete with one of his super modes, which isn't present in the manga. The Preecho is surprisingly strong, getting the upperhand on base Cabba and forcing him to go Super Saiyan. Narirama is a bit of a nuisance in the anime, requiring Basil and Hit to take him down.

Then we have Nigrissi, who's touted as one of the strongest fighters in the anime, but gets knocked out by base Cabba. I think when this aired, everyone wondered if someone got the wrong script. I'll chalk it up to the anime inconsistency, or maybe he didn't expect Cabba to react to his sneak attack and got caught off-guard. Because in the manga, surprisingly, he is targeted by Jiren, alongside Maji Kayo and Pancea, after Goku in SS admitted he "wasn't even on his radar." That's pretty impressive, so I'll take it over his anime showcase.

Maji Kayo doesn't do much in the manga besides being targeted by Jiren as said above, but in the anime we all know he could hold down Dyspo and almost mutilated him if Jiren didn't intervene. Maybe he punched above his weight class because of his Boo-like abilities, but nevertheless I'd still say he's one of the stronger beings of the tournament.

Biarra can tangle with #17 and #18 at the same time. He staggers Magetta in the manga, and wants to face Toppo and Dyspo in the anime. He's also stated to be very strong defensively, and one of U3's key players.

Then we have the three fusion fodder, who don't do much in the manga. Pancea is targeted by Jiren, so he should be above SS tier, and the other are that strong due to being relative to him. Surprisingly, in the anime they do manage to fight ultimate Gohan for a bit, and are clearly stronger than the base Saiyans even before fusing, so I think this is a fair placement.

Paparoni isn't much of a fighter. I think he matches Rabanra (U2) in one of the manga panels. Anilaza is the strongest non-U6/7/11 figher in the tournament. Mosco was the first GoD to break Beerus' pseudo-UI, and also only got knocked down by 3 GoD attacking at once. I think he's one of the stronger ones.

Overall, U3 is actually pretty surprisingly strong, despite not being very relevant plot-wise in the arc. I'd say they're probably the strongest non-U6/7/11 universe in the tournament.

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Universe 4:

Ganos: 17.500.000
Caway: 1.000.000
Dercori: 12.000.000

Nink: 25.000.000
Shantsa: 1.000.000

Shosa: 10.000.000
Majora: 10.000.000

Damon: 1.750.000.000
Gamisaras: 1.250.000.000

Monna: 4.000.000.000

Quitela: 101.000.000.000.000.000

Ganos, Caway, and Dercori are some of the fighters Roshi defeats in the anime. He acknowledges both Ganos and Dercori are stronger than him. In the manga, they don't do much. Ganos is touted as one of U4's aces but gets defeated by Roshi straight overpowering him. It's odd because it's not like the anime where you can claim he defeats Kahseral or other fodder due to his skill/strategy, in the anime he just straightly overpowers Ganos with his Kamehameha, so it's hard to give Ganos any credit in terms of battle powers.

Nink matches Katospesla in the manga and in the anime can momentarily hold a distracted base Goku. Shosa and Majora are the characters Kuririn defeats in the anime, so they're not very strong. Shosa is also seen fighting Harmira in the manga, who's weaker than Tenshinhan. Shantsa has no feats.

Damon and Gamisaras are U4's aces, as they defeat both #18 and Piccolo. Of course, they were taken off-guard, as Piccolo can one shot Gamisaras with a Ki blast. Goku, however, praises Damon's strength. They're not very strong, but strong enough to knock characters like #18, Ribrianne and Piccolo around, even #17, so they're not fodder in spite of their abilities making up the difference.

Monna comes out as the real surprise. In the manga she doesn't do anything, but in the anime she of course takes care of SS Cabba and forces him into SS2. So even if that were not the intention of the writers, she comes across as the strongest fighter U4 has.

Quitela is the last man standing along with Beerus in the Exhibition, and it was stated he's his rival and also beat Beerus in arm wrestling, so maybe he's a tad bit stronger.

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Universe 6:

Multipliers:

• Kale's Super Saiyan: Base x 2.000
• Kefla's Super Saiyan: Base x 2

Caulifla: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 3.500.000.000

Kale: 4.500.000.000
-- SS: 9.000.000.000.000

Kefla: (7.000.000.000.000)
-- SS: 14.000.000.000.000

Hit: 18.000.000.000.000

Frost: 2.500.000.000
Magetta: 4.500.000.000
Botamo: 25.000.000

Dr. Rota: 1.000.000

Saonel: 2.750.000.000
Pirina: 2.500.000.000

Champa: 70.000.000.000.000.000

Caulifla is stronger than Cabba and should be a match for Goku, as per the anime. Cabba mastered the SS form since the tournament. Of course the difference here is they don't go beyond to SS2. Kale, meanwhile, is already stronger than Caulifla's SS form in base form. The LSS/FPSS/Berserker transformation is a 2000x multiplier on top of the base form. Kefla doesn't show her base form in the manga, but the number is there for reference; like in the anime, she's way stronger than SSG Goku. In the anime, she defeats SSB Goku, but he was tired from fighting Jiren, and Vados admits she's not sure she could defeat a fresh Goku. She later transforms into SS2 to fight Omen. I don't think she's as strong as the anime version, but that "very near SSB" tier suits her well, since Kale was already strong enough to knock around a distracted Golden Freeza/SSB Goku/SSB Vegeta.

Frost surprisingly puts up a very good performance in the manga, defeating U9 basically single-handedly and tanking a Shin Kikoho. He's still stronger than Piccolo because of how the Trio de Dangers reacted to Frost taking out the rest of U9.

Hit is now as strong as CSSB Goku. Dr. Rota is fodder, unfortunately for me because I find him hilarious. Saonel and Pirina are stronger in the anime, since they scale above Piccolo who's at least SS2 tier in the ToP, but in the manga, they're basically featless. Out of reverence for their role in the anime and the fact that they should be as strong as or even stronger than Piccolo thematically, they're at this level here.

Champa is weaker than Beerus but should still put up a good fight, as seen in the anime and the flashback over their birthday cake. Beerus seemed in control even in that fight, so when things get serious, Beerus is the clear winner.

//

Universe 7:

Multipliers:

• Ultra Instinct Sign: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 50
• Mastered Ultra Instinct: Sign x 50
• Super Saiyan Blue Evolution: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 20

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 912.500.000.000.000
-- MUI: 45.625.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 370.000.000.000.000

Gohan: 35.000.000
-- Ultimate: 14.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 2.000.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 1.500.000.000
Artificial Human #17: 1.800.000.000.000

Muten Roshi: 5.000
-- Pseudo UI: 10.000.000

Tenshinhan: 15.000.000
Kuririn: 17.500.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku claims he's rusty at the start of the arc, so I doubt he and Vegeta have got much stronger - Vegeta's been training, but it's to master SSB. UIS is 50x CSSB, and MUI is 50x Sign. This may seem to high but I want MUI to be somewhere in the ballpark of Blue Fusions, as that's how strong Heroes kinda portrays it, and it seems to be the implication even in canon. This means, because of how ridiculously strong Gogeta scales in Broly, the multipliers have to be this huge. Plus, it kinda fits with the anime's scaling, since Sign is at least over 20x (due to the Kaioken). Goku also uses a pseudo-Kaioken in the manga. Evolution's multiplier I think increases in the Granolah arc to be equal to Sign's, but in this arc, Jiren outright admits that Sign is stronger. I think a 20x multiplier to match SSBKKx20 like the anime works fine for now.

Gohan got his groove back and matches Kefla, just slightly below CSSB. Piccolo got a slight power boost once again. It hurts me to do this to Piccolo since he actually seems to be somewhat relative to Ultimate Gohan in the Moro arc, and in the anime he outright overpowers SS2 Gohan in their training, but in Superhero he seems to be back to being below a rusty SS Gohan, so he's obviously not as strong as we all think. The most I can give him is enough motivation to at least match Frost from back in the U6 arc. I think that's fair, since he defeats Bergamo easily, who managed to tank a full-power blast from Frost; he also seems even with Hyssop (U9) with whom Frost struggled for a bit. Even back in the U6 arc, they weren't that far apart.

The artificial humans are hard to scale too, since again, in the Moro arc #17 and #18 are both relative and Moro praises them both, but we know 17 is far beyond his sister. Whatever Goku means by "he's as strong as us" obviously doesn't mean CSSB, since #17 plays it sneakily and avoids big confrontations in the manga. If you want to grant him SSB tier in the anime, sure, but in the manga the most he does is tire out Dyspo and scare SS3 Goku. I think slotting him in at that incomplete SSB tier works well for him. I can't in good conscience have #18 over Piccolo, and I don't think either of the two are SS tier at all.

The humans at this point could probably range anywhere from the low millions to 30M, but I've decided to be conservative since they haven't been training much. I think this is a fair middle ground, the Saiyans are still stronger, but they can give them a good run for their money in base form with strategy and techniques. Yamcha in the next arc states he's still a top 3 Earthling, so despite his form, Roshi should be still weaker.

Freeza now matches CSSB with his Golden Form, which in the manga does not receive an updated name, but should be the same thing as True Golden Freeza. As I said back in the RF arc, Freeza can't be much stronger than SS2/SS3 tier at most, since he gets damaged by SS Caulifla's full-powered attack and is forced to transform. Even if he's distracted or off-guard, that's still a considerable anti-feat for SSG-tier Freeza.

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Universe 9:

Bergamo: 1.750.000.000
Basil: 1.600.000.000
Lavender: 1.200.000.000

Rozelle: 1.000.000.000
Hyssop: 2.000.000.000
Comfrey: 2.250.000.000

Chappil: 250.000.000
Oregano: 25.000.000
Hop: 25.000.000
Sorrel: 12.000.000

Sidra: 40.000.000.000.000.000

The Trio de Dangers' teamwork can make even Ultimate Gohan struggle a bit, but they're all individually below SS tier since Piccolo defeats their leader easily. Even in the anime, Lavender can't match a blind SS Gohan, and Bergamo was also being toyed around with by SS Goku. It's only Basil after taking a steroid who can somewhat pressure Mr. Boo.

Rozelle manages to grab ahold of Piccolo and Hyssop also clashes evenly with Piccolo for a few panels, so they're surprisingly strong. Comfrey is perhaps the more surprising fodder, since he clashes evenly with Frost and forced him to use an explosive wave that expanded all his energy. Sure, Frost was tired, but they should still be close in strength. It's surprising that the Trio aren't the strongest in their verse, since that seems to be the implication, but Hysopp and Comfrey have much better feats. The Trio ran away when Frost was doing his rampage.

Oregano manages to hold base Vegeta for a bit in the anime. Chappil easily tanks base Goku's punches but gets overwhelmed by SS. Sorrel in the manga matches Dercori, and Hop matches Katopesla and can pressure base Vegeta in the anime. The fandom thinks Sidra is the weakest GoD. There's not much to point toward it, but his performance in the Exhibition wasn't great, so I'm inclined to agree. Overall, U9 probably comes out as one of the more balanced universes. A lot of the characters are in that nebulous gap between the base Saiyans and SS, and the weaker ones aren't complete fodder.

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Universe 10:

Murichim: 1.500.000.000
Napapa: 1.500.000.000
Rubalt: 1.500.000.000

Lilibeu: 1.000.000
Murisam: 1.000.000
Zircor: 1.000.000

Dyrasem: 25.000.000
Methiop: 25.000.000
Dium: 10.000.000

Obuni: 3.000.000.000

Rumsshi: 90.000.000.000.000.000

Like Nigrissi, Murichim is done a bit dirty, because he's supposed to be an ace and the team leader, but doesn't have many feats. In the manga, he knocks Hop (U9) away very easily, and is then defeated by Gamisaras. In the anime, he's defeated by Freeza, but Vegeta wanted to fight him, so maybe he's a worthy opponent. He was also able to attack a Toppo suppressed enough to fight Magetta. Because he's the leader of the team, he should maybe be a bit strong.

Napapa is actually quite strong, too. In the anime, he manages to push SS Caulifla around for a bit. He also fights Basil evenly. In the manga, he fights Saonel and Pirina, but gets knocked out by Piccolo. Rubalt is easily defeated by 17 in the manga, and can give Piccolo a decent fight in the anime. Lilibel, Zircor and Murisam are fodder. Dyrasem is easily knocked out by Piccolo and base Ribrianne in the anime, but there's a panel of him fighting Botamo. There's a panel of Methiop fighting Zarbuto (U2) and he also deals with defenseless base Kale in the anime.

Dium's Ki blast in the anime threatened Kuririn, so he's not complete fodder. He even survived being rung out by #17 in the manga. Of course, the real star, is supposed to be Obuni. In the anime, he matches ultimate Gohan, but in the manga he shouldn't be that strong, since he's taken out by Kale easily, who's much weaker than Gohan. We see him fight Comfrey evenly, however, and he's the last non U6/7/11 fighter remaining, it seems he survived quite a few hits from Kale too. I'd say he's a bit stronger than Comfrey since that's the only character we see him fight in the manga.

Rumsshi is to me one of the stronger GoDs, because of how he was portrayed in the Exhibition. This universe I expected to be full of complete fodder, but it actually has 4 powerful fighters once you analyze things carefully, although the rest are basically useless. Before I get to U11, I think I actually prefer how the anime tried to beef up some of these fighters a bit more, because in the manga most are sub-SS tier and any Super Saiyan could have just powered up and wiped 90% of the roster -- and that's exactly what happened, although not just any regular Super Saiyan. Although that is perhaps more logical in-universe, it isn't as fun, even if I personally prefer the arc overall in the manga.

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Universe 11:

Vewon: 30.000.000
Zoire: 30.000.000
Kettle: 30.000.000
Kahseral: 10.000.000

Tupper: 1.250.000.000
Cocotte: 1.500.000.000

Kunshi: 200.000.000.000
Dyspo: 2.000.000.000.000
Toppo: 20.000.000.000.000

Jiren: 46.000.000.000.000.000

Belmod: 45.000.000.000.000.000

Most of the Pride Troopers are fairly weak but they manage to punch above their weight due to their impeccable teamwork. Vewon, Zoire, and Kettle don't have any significant feats. Because U11 is the strongest universe, I'll just grant that they're stronger than the average fighter - they could all overpower base Goku working together. Tupper in both the anime and the manga manages to overpower base Goku but is then picked up by #18 and SS Goku respectively. Cocotte manages to stand her ground against #18 in the anime, and in the manga she fights solo, so she must be quite capable. Kahseral is touted as one of the leaders of U11 but the fact he gets knocked out by Roshi isn't very impressive; even in the anime he doesn't amount to much. Maybe he's valuable due to his strategy and leadership, but he also comes across as quite narrow-minded in his fight with Roshi, though I guess he could be quite capable and just have a different mentality regarding fighting (soldier vs martial artist).

Kunshi of course has a great performance working alongside Dyspo in the anime vs SSG Goku and Hit. In the manga, he doesn't amount to much, but that's no reason to discount his performance, much like Maji Kayo. Dyspo, on the other hand, seems to have a fluctuating BP even in the anime. In the manga, he's scared of Kefla, so he's not at Gohan or Blue tier; even in the anime he could only keep up with Gohan and Freeza with his speed. The only indications we have of his strength in the manga are that he's way stronger than SS2 Goku, but not quite as strong as Kefla; he also tires from fighting #17. Like #17, that early incomplete Blue tier seems fitting for him.

It seems obvious Jiren is stronger than Belmod since it was literally stated, but with how Beerus has been a constant moving goalpost, that, by extension, also brings the other GoDs up by proxy. Especially Belmod, who seemed to be portrayed as one of the stronger GoDs in the Exhibition - at the very least, one of the more clever ones. "In combat skill alone," Toppo says about Jiren vs Belmod. It's arguable, whatever, I'd probably assume the gap isn't too big. I'll give the nod to Jiren but they're close enough.

Broly:

Spoiler:

Multipliers:

• Wrathful: Base x 10
• Legendary Super Saiyan: Super Saiyan x 2.000
• Hypothetical Mastered Legendary Super Saiyan: LSS x 2

Goku: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Broly: 470.000.000.000
-- Wrathful: 4.700.000.000.000
-- SS: 23.500.000.000.000
-- LSS: 47.000.000.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical MLSS: 94.500.000.000.000.000

Gogeta: 12.500.000.000.000
-- SS: 25.000.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 125.000.000.000.000.000

Gogeta's power is what bloats this list beyond proportion. Without his multipliers, I could theoretically cap the list off at the trillions. But the fact that he's SSB tier in his base form is ridiculous, even with the already decreased SS multiplier I give fusions. The only way I could make these numbers less ridiculous would be by giving the other forms reduced multipliers as well. And since I already decreased SS, there's validity in the argument that I could just go all the way. I'll toy with the idea later, because I don't really like this sort of scaling, because even the series doesn't support such a vast difference between Gogeta Blue and Gogeta SS, or Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue; Blue is still used by Goku to somewhat keep up with opponents at MUI tier later in the series (Granolah and Gas for example), and the Gammas can damage Cell Max, so it's not like there's such a huge gap between SSB Goku and MUI/Blue Fusions, at least not in Toyotaro's continuity or arguably Toriyama's -- I think at most Toriyama probably started viewing SSG as 10x SS and then SSB as 10x SSG as he wrote his scripts, but that's not really coherent with the multipliers we have, unless we think the SEG was wrong and SS3 is actually just 2x SS2 rather than 4x, that'd make things a bit easier to chew.

I think what irks me the most is the fact that SSB Goku and Vegeta were admittedly outclassed but not one shot by SS Broly. And Freeza of course survived an hour. This means there's a gap, but not a huge one. And then the movie doesn't make a big deal out of his next transformation, LSS/Berserker/FPSS or whatever. It's arguable if it even exists in the manga at all. It's hard to reconcile the fact Goku says Broly can be stronger than Beerus with the fact Broly is arguably surpassed by Moro, Granolah, Gas, Vegeta and Gohan in the next arcs, too. But we work with what we're given.

Broly's multipliers in Wrathful and SS are self-explanatory, then the LSS/FPSS multiplier was arbitrary but just enough to slot him in there as stronger than Jiren. Assuming that form is controlled, I can see a x2 multiplier pushing him near Beerus like Goku said, becoming a real threat Gogeta needs to put down, and still being of interest to Freeza currently. It's the only way I can see to make sense of the thematic implications and hints at Broly's power.

Continuing on the next post due to surpassing word count.

The idea is often treated as heretical for a few reasons (big one is Beerus's statement about Goku not being able to beat Freeza), but I feel like a lot of weirdness with scaling gets alleviated by assuming Super Saiyan is a 5x (or maybe 10x) boost from the Artificial Humans onward. It very neatly puts Goku at 600 kili against Yakon in base and allows the Earthlings to seem less silly for showing up against No. 19 and 20 if base Vegeta (who they seem to be weaker than) is sitting in the tens of millions rather than the low millions, just to name two things.

I'm not trying to say that that read is objectively correct all the time or anything, but I do think Toriyama wrote the series with much smaller "multipliers" in mind from time to time.

[Yuji]

Alright, I've been working for the past week on my battle powers list. I'm trying to put together a list including all of Super and GT. A Z list would be easy(-ish) enough, but I'm trying to make a comprehensive scale for myself. Obviously, this means a lot of things will be up to interpretation and some liberties will be taken, but generally I'd like to establish a few things:

• Obviously, I'm open to feedback, though I will try to lay out my reasoning for the controversial debates (Dabra vs Cell, Shin's battle power, etc), as well as all the "headcanon" liberties I take (and why they may, or may not, matter);
• The list tries to minimize bloat as best as possible. It caps out in the quadrillions, which, honestly, is already far too high for my taste, but that's only because fusions (and DBS: Broly, specifically) made things hard. There are instances where numbers necessarily will blow up beyond my taste, but when possible, I will try to keep gaps low. I'm using 15-25% gaps as seen through the Namek arc as more than enough to overpower a single opponent, and unless the characters make visible or explicitly stated power-ups, they won't get much stronger via timeskips or casual training;
• Super is complicated to scale, so I will follow the manga (mostly) because it's more straightforward and has less inconsistencies. There will be some compromises with the anime though, especially with characters in the ToP who have no feats for example, but mostly the manga takes precedence, so if there's contradiction between the two mediums, the manga will be regarded primarily;
• Heroes/videogame scaling won't be taken seriously, but if they don't contradict anything in canon, and it makes thematic sense to me, I will use some of their scaling, for example: Blue and SS4 being comparable.

Artificial Humans arc:

Spoiler:

Freeza's invasion:

Mecha Freeza: 140.000.000
-- Suppressed: 70.000.000

King Cold: 70.000.000

Trunks: 3.000.000
-- SS: 150.000.000

Goku: 3.500.000
-- SS: 175.000.000

I've seen some people already having Goku and Trunks at >200M, but I'm taking a minimalist approach when possible. Freeza powered-up enough to where he's relative to Goku, but he's suppressed so Trunks kills him easily. Cold is compared to Freeza's suppressed state. Trunks is compared to Goku by Gohan - while I agree he's just referring to the Super Saiyan "type" of Ki, I do think it makes things thematically neat if he's equal to Namek Goku. Goku states Trunks was holding back, so he's not that much stronger.

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3 Years Later

Yamcha: 1.440.000
Tenshinhan: 1.870.000
Kuririn: 2.000.000

Vegeta: 4.000.000
-- SS: 200.000.000

Goku: 3.700.000
-- SS: 185.000.000

Artificial Human #19: 90.000.000
-- Ki absorbed: 175.000.000

Dr. Gero: 100.000.000

Piccolo: 125.000.000

Trunks: 3.800.000
-- SS: 190.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 270.000.000
-- Future #18: 170.000.000

Artificial Human #17: 310.000.000
-- Future #17: 210.000.000

Future Gohan: 2.000.000
-- SS: 100.000.000

I think the only contentions here are if #19 and Gero are stronger than Freeza, and future Gohan. I choose to believe they're weaker than Freeza out of personal preference. As for Gohan, unfortunately he is weak in the manga. Trunks says he could handle at least one android, but Gohan couldn't even defeat #17 at half strength. This leads me to believe Trunks is already far stronger than Gohan was - although it kinda pains me to have him weaker than even Namek Goku, but that's just how things panned out. The anime version, however, would probably be similar to Trunks here or maybe even stronger. Piccolo should at least have surpassed Freeza and Gero confused Yamcha for Goku, so the humans shouldn't be that much weaker.

Since this is a holistic list, maybe Dr. Gero is too strong here, since Pan can handle him fine in GT Then again, Pan did defeat Goten easily in EoZ filler. Maybe they're both in the 10-30M range and only became a problem because #19 drained Goku and Vegeta? Would like to hear thoughts on this.

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Cell Appears:

Multipliers:

• Weighted Clothing: 1.25x
• Grade 2: Base x 75
• Grade 3: Base x 100

Piccolo: 250.000.000
-- Unweighted: 312.500.000

Cell: 225.000.000
-- Post-Absorptions: 400.000.000
-- Semi-Perfect: 625.000.000

Artificial Human #16: 400.000.000

Vegeta: 10.000.000
-- SS: 500.000.000
-- G2: 750.000.000

Trunks: 9.900.000
-- SS: 495.000.000
-- G2: 742.500.000
-- G3: 990.000.000

I think I gave Grade 3 a higher multiplier than most folks usually do but I like to keep it at a convenient number. Besides that, I think everything here is straightforward too.

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The Cell Games:

Multipliers:

• Mastered Super Saiyan: Base x 100

Goku: 21.000.000
-- SS: 2.100.000.000

Gohan: 29.000.000
-- SS: 2.900.000.000
-- SS2: 5.800.000.000

Cell: 2.500.000.000
-- SPC: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 15.000.000
-- SS: 750.000.000
-- G2: 1.125.000.000

Trunks: 14.900.000
-- SS: 745.000.000
-- G2: 1.117.500.000

Cell Jr: 1.250.000.000

Piccolo: 625.000.000

Now the first huge bloat, coming from Goku's power-up on Karin tower at 50%. I'm also in the camp that Trunks' reaction implies Goku's half power surpassed him and Vegeta. Maybe he was just comparing regular Super Saiyan forms, and therefore SS Goku at 50% > SS Trunks, not necessarily Grade 3, but I don't think it makes much of a difference.

I've always believed Super Saiyan multipliers, ever since the SEG lists SS2 and SS4 as SSx2 and SS2x4 respectively, rather than x100 or x400, are variable and this has become, if nothing else, abundantly clear with Super, as in, for example, the Vegeta and Cabba fight. My headcanon is that MSS is the same multiplier as the Grade 3 form. The ROSAT training was based on improving Super Saiyan, so it doesn't make sense to me necessarily that their base forms would have skyrocketed so much. If you train your base, your Super Saiyan gets stronger, but if you train your Super Saiyan, all that means is your Super Saiyan gets stronger. To me, anyway. But I understand the opposite perspective.

Besides that, I think a noticeable gap between Gohan and everyone else is mandatory. I don't understand how some folks have Goku near Gohan at all. It's not noticeable if Vegeta and Trunks are using SS or G2, but I choose to believe they're using G2 since it's actually an efficient form compared to G3. Either way, they're still stronger than Piccolo even in regular Super Saiyan just for good measure, since Cell mentions only Vegeta and Trunks keep up with the Cell Jrs. In the anime, Piccolo does a bit better, so I understand why some may feel this number is low. I'm open to arguments, I can honestly have Cell/Boo arc Piccolo anywhere from 600M to over 1B, but unless Daima showcases anything differently, being outperformed by a rusty SS Gohan in ROF probably means that Piccolo isn't as strong as we'd like to think he is.

Majin Boo arc:

Spoiler:

Babidi's invasion:

Pui Pui: 10.000.000
Yakon: 800.000.000

Dabra: 5.250.000.000

Shin: 2.000.000.000

Trunks: 11.000.000
-- SS: 1.100.000.000

Goten: 10.500.000
-- SS: 1.050.000.000

Piccolo: 800.000.000

Gohan: 25.000.000
-- SS: 2.500.000.000
-- SS2: 5.000.000.000

Vegeta: 28.000.000
-- SS: 2.800.000.000
-- SS2: 5.600.000.000

Majin Vegeta: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000

Goku: 30.000.000
-- SS: 3.000.000.000
-- SS2: 6.000.000.000
-- SS3: 24.000.000.000

Fat Boo: 20.000.000.000

A couple of things to note here: firstly, the old Shin vs Piccolo debate. There's a Spanish guidebook that places Shin at CG Goku's level. Because of how well Shin handles Gohan, Dabra and Boo, I'd wager they're right, and that Piccolo's comment is truly about his power, rather than status. This leaves the base Saiyans in a weird position. Later on in the list, I'll introduce the common "Saiya power" concept that some folks use, but honestly I could use it here, since there are a lot of implications in the Boo arc (and later on in Super and Daima too) that seem to point toward the base Saiyans not only being stronger than Freeza, but stronger than even Piccolo and Shin too. Only because I'm not sure I like the idea of the Saiyans becoming 50-100x stronger in one single arc, even though CG Gohan is still a measuring stick well into the Boo arc, I won't grant them that power.

Though of course this leaves things complicated on how to scale Piccolo and Shin later on in the series, but we'll get to it later. As for the kids, I've always held them in high regard, near Boo arc Gohan, but considering how they seem to struggle with the Cell Jrs in Super, I can't place them that high, unless we believe Gohan in the beginning of the arc was just that much weaker than the version we saw later vs Boo. Some may argue they shouldn't be stronger than Piccolo based on Super Boo's appearance, but he was shocked at their strength, called them the last hope before knowing about fusion, they surprised Vegeta and Gohan, and they handled multiple Cell Jrs at once later. The signs seem to point toward them being stronger.

Goku's SS power fits in with the 3000 Killis coincidentally, so I gave Yakon 800 million, since his Killis were read at 800. Dabra's power seems to be firmly within the SS2 tier after Super, where, a future Trunks comparable to Zamasu arc Goku and stated to be stronger than CG Gohan, could not defeat him without SS2. This isn't just rusty SS Boo arc Gohan struggling anymore, so we can't deny he was being compared to SPC. This leaves a narrow window to fit the Tamagamis later on in the list, but I'll manage.

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Absorptions & Fusions:

Multipliers:

• Fusion Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Full Power Super Saiyan 3: Super Saiyan 3 x 4

Gohan: 32.000.000
-- SS: 3.200.000.000
-- SS2: 6.400.000.000
-- Ultimate: 130.000.000.000

Trunks: 14.000.000
-- SS: 1.400.000.000

Goten: 13.500.000
-- SS: 1.350.000.000

Evil Boo: 12.500.000.000
Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Gotenks: 6.250.000.000
-- SS: 12.500.000.000
-- SS3: 100.000.000.000

Super Boo: 90.000.000.000
-- Gotenks: 190.000.000.000
-- Gohan: 220.000.000.000

Vegetto: 850.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.700.000.000.000

Kid Boo: 25.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical Full Power: 70.000.000.000

Hypothetical FPSS3 Goku: 96.000.000.000

These are Gohan, Trunks and Goten's updated numbers following their training. The old tired SS3 Goku vs Gotenks vs Gohan debate will of course rage on, but I've settled on Gohan > SS3 Gotenks > SS3 Goku > SS Gotenks. Gotenks is strong enough in SS that a hypothetical SS2 would defeat Boo, as per Goku's estimation. But I don't think you can ignore all the implications of SS3 Gotenks and Gohan being stronger, even if the anime and post-Boo material do their best to make it look like Goku's the strongest. I think a combination of Gohan losing ultimate and getting rusty, and Gotenks not being considered his own entity, would account for all the "Goku's number 1" statements post-Boo.

So the points of contention here are the fusion battle powers in base form. I will apply this to GT's base Saiyans later, but essentially I'm taking the old "Saiya power" concept, that some Saiyans that can turn Super Saiyan can use a portion of Super Saiyan power in base form - in this case, it's 50%; Vegetto's "real" base form would be at 17 billion, and Gotenks would be 125 million. This explains why nobody uses Kaioken in base later, as well as all the super strong base Saiyan scenes from Toei filler, the Super anime, etc. Of course, this is headcanon, especially here in the Boo arc. But it's a way only to keep things tidy and reduce bloat. I could essentially arrive at all the same "tiers" and place all the characters where I want them using conventional multipliers.

Daizenshuu states Gotenks surpassed Vegeta after the ROSAT training. I've seen some people interpret this as their base forms, or SS Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta, but I think only base Gotenks was pictured.

Some may snark at Vegetto being this strong, but 1. I definitely believe the GT Perfect Files comparison to SS4 Goku, 2. Vegetto was essentially toying with Boohan to get absorbed, so we never saw him at full power, and 3. in the anime, he was already toying with Boohan in base. The gap between the two may be ridiculous, but nothing outright contradicts it.

Ultimate as we will see in Super has a variable multiplier, so none was given here to avoid headaches. I would like, however, to propose a SS3 x4 multiplier for a hypothetical Full Power SS3 that Goku tried to achieve in the Boo fight. This would multiply his 24B by 4 and place him at full power at 96 billion, which is closer to Gotenks' and Gohan's 100 and 130 respectively. This could also thereby boost Kid Boo's battle power to the 50-90 billion range, pushing him closer to Super Boo to align with the filler scaling. I'll probably play with this theory more in the future, but because no "FPSS3" exists even in Heroes, I don't feel comfortable incorporating it into my numbers for the time being.

Dragon Ball GT:

Spoiler:

Baby arc:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Golden Oozaru: Super Saiyan x 10
• Super Saiyan 4: Golden Oozaru x 10
• Full Power Super Saiyan 4: Super Saiyan 4 x 10
• Super Baby 1: Base x 2
• Super Baby 2: Super Baby 1 x 4

Ledgic: 6.500.000.000

Goku: 8.500.000.000
-- SS: 17.000.000.000
-- SS2: 34.000.000.000
-- SS3: 136.000.000.000
-- GO: 170.000.000.000
---- Enraged: 850.000.000.000
-- SS4: 1.700.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 17.000.000.000.000

Rildo: 8.000.000.000
-- Form 2: 16.000.000.000
-- Form 3: 20.000.000.000

Baby: 170.000.000.000
-- SBV1: 340.000.000.000
-- SBV2: 1.360.000.000.000
-- GO: 1.700.000.000.000

Oob: 10.000.000.000
-- Majoob: 1.000.000.000.000

GT scaling is actually decent, all things considered, when it comes to how it compares itself to the Z characters. I've debated at length over the last few weeks the Blue vs SS4/Vegetto vs SS4 issue, so I won't lay out my arguments again here. I think GT definitely subscribes to the notion that SS multipliers are lower, and this becomes even clearer the next arc, but to reiterate what I said above: I could still have everyone at the same "tier" of strength using conventional multipliers, I just choose to do this for the sake of decreasing bloat. The numbers may change, but the scaling itself would remain the same, I'd just have to add a lot more 0s to a lot more characters.

I believe one of the guidebooks state GO Goku was stronger than usual, which explains why he fought better against Baby despite the multiplier. "FPSS4" refers to the form that Goku uses in this and the Shadow Dragons arc when his friends give him energy. The form of Boo I chose for the Rildo comparison is Mr. Boo, it is to me the version that makes the most sense. My axiomatic tiers for the GT/Z comparisons are as follows:

Rildo > Mr. Boo
Baby ~ Bootenks/Boohan
SB1 > Boohan
SS4 Goku ~ GO Baby ~ Super Vegetto

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Super 17 & Shadow Dragons:

Goku: 10.000.000.000
-- SS: 20.000.000.000
-- SS4: 2.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 20.000.000.000.000

Super 17: 1.750.000.000.000

Majoob: 1.200.000.000.000

Syn Shenlong: 7.500.000.000.000
-- Omega: 75.000.000.000.000

Nova Shenlong: 1.900.000.000.000
Eis Shenlong: 1.850.000.000.000

SS4 Gogeta: 10.000.000.000.000.000
-- FPSS4: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku got a bit stronger, but not strong enough to where he's stronger than Majoob as SS, as some people claim. Super 17 takes a beating from SS Goku but later claims he was just letting himself get hit, it's not indicative of Goku's real power boost.

I'm unsure if Gogeta is in regular SS4 or not, it'd make sense if he's in the FP form off the bat. His number is severely bloated, I won't deny it, but it's only because I try to be consistent regarding the boost he gets over Goku & Vegeta with the DBS version's increase later. And as such, his base form battle power would be 50 trillion in this list, which is already near Omega's. Maybe fusions do need lower multipliers for the Super Saiyan forms. Spoiler alert, Beerus is 100 quadrillion, so at FPSS4, Gogeta would be the same level of power, fittingly with all the comparisons made between the two in the videogames.

Battle of Gods & Resurrection F:

Spoiler:

Battle of Gods:

Multipliers:

• Super Saiyan God: SS x 100
• Enraged Super Saiyan 2: SS2 x 10

Goku: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- SS3: 27.200.000.000
-- SSG: 340.000.000.000

Vegeta: 34.000.000
-- SS: 3.400.000.000
-- SS2: 6.800.000.000
-- ESS2: 68.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Whis: 150.000.000.000.000.000

Not sure how Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form works, but it seems to be a permanent power-up in the Zamasu arc, with a different multiplier than Trunks' already improved Super Saiyan 2. Odd, but it's what it is.

Of course the main pushback I'll get here is on the SSG multiplier. I know all the yadda yadda fusion won't work arguments, but at this point, due to how much stuff from BoG has been retconned, I think we can probably discard it. Fusions have shown more than once how absurdly broken they are, and later on in the series will showcase power greater than SSG in base forms. Yes, exponential and whatever, but I don't see why we assume that SSG > Vegetto if 1. all power-related statements in this arc have been retconned regarding Beerus, and 2. Goku could not defeat Beerus in SSG anyway, so all he said was "x can't beat Beerus, and y can't beat Beerus either," never directly comparing x to y. So while this may fly in the face of all fan scaling, I prefer it.

In the manga, the SSG was never absorbed into base/SS form. And even in the anime, it seems it was retconned or phased out eventually, or at most, only used selectively, so don't expect Goku's base form to become hundreds of times stronger past this point. Accessing SSG is still a vastly different realm of power compared to what came prior, and these numbers still reflect that.

I also see a lot of folks making a big deal out of Goku's image training at the start of Super to mean he got way stronger from the Boo arc, but the series also explicitly states multiple times they've trained their bodies to their physical peaks, and only mastery of transformations will get them any stronger. I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously that he can one shot Cell and Boo in Super Saiyan.

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Resurrection F:

Multipliers:

• Saiyan beyond God: same as SSG
• Super Saiyan Blue: SSG x 5
• Freeza's true form: 1st form x 10
• Golden Freeza: true form x 100

Goku: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Vegeta: 35.000.000
-- Saiyan Beyond God: 350.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.750.000.000.000

Kuririn: 10.000.000
Tenshinhan: 7.500.000
Jaco: 2.500

Roshi: 500
-- Max Power: 5.000

Gohan: 16.000.000.000
-- SS: 1.600.000.000

Piccolo: 1.000.000.000

Shisami: 1.100.000.000

Average Freeza soldier: 500

Freeza: 2.000.000.000
-- True Form: 20.000.000.000
-- Golden: 2.000.000.000.000
-- Anime: 20.000.000.000.000

Goku and Vegeta obviously used their SSG power in base in this arc, but this is something we never see in the manga, so we don't know the arc plays out. In the anime, it plays out the same as the movie, but again, I don't think they ever show this type of power again.

This arc is a mess for everyone. Freeza's power is another I think got silently retconned, by proxy of Goku and Vegeta's power being retconned. He doesn't fight Gohan in the RF manga, and in the movie only one shots his base form. In the anime, he defeats Gohan in SS using his first form, which I think should be accurate enough, since he should be stronger than Shisami at the very least. For his final form, in the manga, his best feat after this arc is handling SS Caulifla decently enough in his true form, yet still taking some damage from a surprise attack. In the anime, he apparently needs to transform to handle SS2 Cabba, although he almost begins a beam struggle with SS2 Caulifla. If we follow the 226x multiplier from 1st to 100% power from Namek, he would be well beyond SS/SS2 levels, even if we grant that Cabba and Caulifla are much stronger than this Gohan. Yet we know that Freeza can choose his suppression forms' power. So I'm thinking he didn't make the gap that huge this time. Maybe a 2x gap between every form.

Gohan, of course, is stupidly rusty. But still stronger than everyone else. Piccolo got somewhat stronger from the Boo arc, but again, I still fear he's not much up to par with anyone. Shisami is stronger than him, and Tagoma, although I didn't list him, should be comparable to Gohan in the anime version. The humans have improved somewhat since the artificial humans. Roshi tangling with the Freeza soldiers is a surprise for everyone, even if Freeza probably collected some soldiers weaker than usual on account of the rush. However, he gets visibly tired and starts struggling at a certain point, so he's still in their ballpark, rather than the low millions like the others who take out the soldiers with ease. Jaco is afraid of adult Saiyans back during his own story, so even if a few decades have passed, he doesn't seem like the kind to become stronger. I doubt he's stronger than FP Roshi, but could handle the soldiers better on account of having better stamina.

We know God is at least 10% of Blue's power from the U6 arc, so the multiplier can range from 2x to 10x, I just chose x5 as a middle ground. In the anime, that boost would be 50x already, so if you want to transpose these numbers to the anime, just multiply every SSB tier character by 10x. Freeza's power goes up x10 and x100 per transformation, for simplicity's sake.

Universe 6 & Zamasu:

Spoiler:

Universe 6:

Goku: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSG: 360.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Vegeta: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SSB: 1.800.000.000.000

Piccolo: 1.300.000.000

Mr. Boo: 7.500.000.000

Frost: 30.000.000
-- Assault Form: 60.000.000
-- True Form: 2.000.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 1.750.000.000

Botamo: 25.000.000

Magetta: 4.500.000.000

Hit: 1.800.000.000.000

Goku confirms they're near their peak at the start of the arc, so they won't get much stronger from physical training anymore. Botamo is weaker than base Goku, and so is Frost in his first form. Frost's second form forces Goku to transform, and then he does somewhat decently against SS Goku. I think 2B is a decent number, enough to somewhat keep up with SS but also enough to be competitive with Piccolo once he gets tired. I'm not exactly sure on Cabba vs Frost, but Frost only gets one shotted because he fought 3 people in a row. Cabba is also an unmastered SS, which explains why Vegeta can toy with him in SS despite confirming they're equals in base form. Magetta isn't strong enough to make Vegeta use SS2, so he's in-between the two tiers. I'd wager not as strong as Cell or Dabra, however.

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Zamasu:

Multipliers:

• Completed Super Saiyan Blue: Super Saiyan Blue x 10
• Goku Black's Super Saiyan: Base x 2
• Super Saiyan Rosé: Super Saiyan x 50
• Mastered Super Saiyan 2: Super Saiyan 2 x 4

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- SS3: 29.200.000.000
-- SSG: 365.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.825.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SS2: 7.400.000.000
-- ESS2: 74.000.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- SSB: 1.850.000.000.000

Trunks: 36.000.000
-- SS: 3.600.000.000
-- SS2: 7.200.000.000
-- FPSS2: 28.800.000.000

Zamasu: 6.500.000.000

Goku Black: 17.500.000.000
-- SS: 35.000.000.000
-- SSR: 1.750.000.000.000

Merged Zamasu: 23.000.000.000.000

Vegetto: 12.000.000.000.000
-- Blue: 12.000.000.000.000.000
-- Final Kamehameha: 120.000.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Zamasu arc takes place at best a few months post U6, so I don't think they got much stronger at all, even with their mid-arc training which I will explain below.

Okay, for this arc, you have to make a lot of assumptions, because Toyotaro dropped the ball. The glaring issue is SS Goku Black defeating SSB Vegeta post-senzu bean, only for SSB Vegeta post-ROSAT to defeat him in Rosé. But the ROSAT training was implied to have only been to master the God-Blue switch, not making Vegeta hundreds or thousands of times stronger. Even if that were the case, Goku's training was just one day -- and in the next arc, he's Vegeta's equal despite being rusty at the start of it. So did Goku get a thousand times stronger passively?

I think they just worked on making SSB more efficient and their base power didn't really increase much at all, which means you have to start wondering how Goku Black's power works. To make things easy, I say he just gets 2x stronger from Super Saiyan and then stacks a x50 multiplier from Rosé on top of that. He's weaker than Blue, still. We see him defeat Trunks in base form at the start of the arc, but that was an injured Trunks who admits later he's already seen Black's SS form, so he was probably getting his ass beat by that form until he got so weak he couldn't transform anymore.

As for CSSB's multiplier, I've usually been conservative with it, but I've stuck with x10 to make it equal to the anime's x50 (once multiplied from the original x5 of the incomplete SSB) and also match it with FPSS4 from GT. SSG and SSB have always been portrayed as a completely different dimension from SS3 and SSG respectively, so the multipliers being progressively higher with each form isn't offensive to me, considering SS3 also had a higher multiplier than SS2.

The fact teen Gohan is still used as a measuring stick this arc leads me to believe Trunks isn't too far off from him. The Dabra incident occurred only a year prior in his timeline, so if he was struggling with Dabra, he can't be over 2x stronger than CG Gohan.

Zamasu is hard to scale, since Goku claims Trunks can handle Zamasu on his own, but still uses SSB and SSG against him. Of course, he toys with Zamasu in these forms, and he seems comfortable powering down to regular SS once he thinks the fight is won. Because in the second encounter he powered down to SSG, and not SS2 or SS3, I'd say he's probably in that SS2 ballpark like the anime version who fought SS2 Goku.

Vegetto is just overpowered. The multiplier for the final KHH is the same as CSSB, so that's how strong he'd be if he debuted the transformation right then.

Tournament of Power:

Spoiler:

Universe 2:

Ribrianne: 1.500.000.000
Kakunsa: 250.000.000
Roasie: 100.000.000

Zarbuto: 25.000.000
Rabanra: 25.000.000
Zirloin: 25.000.000

Jimeze: 30.000.000

Vikal: 1.000.000
Prum: 1.000.000
Harmira: 10.000.000

Heles: 42.000.000.000.000.000

The Tournament of Power is hard to scale in both mediums, because most characters are fodder and any performance can be judged on whether or not x character was taking it seriously, holding back, or fatigued, and a lot of characters can punch above their weight using unorthodox techniques, catching characters off guard, or using teamwork. As such, it takes a lot of guesswork to arrive at any concrete numbers and a lot of assumptions have to be made. I don't fault anyone for finding issues with my numbers, these are just the general approximations to certain "tiers" of power I got from their performances. I'll be drawing heavily from the anime here for a lot of characters who don't do much in the manga, but generally, if the anime contradicts a performance from the manga, I'll take the manga's portrayal primarily.

So Ribrianne is consistently portrayed in both mediums as around #18's level, since she's beaten by her. How strong #18 is right now is a bit nebulous, but I think she's significantly stronger now. Kakunsa and Roasie meanwhile don't have many feats, but as the Kamikaze fireballs, they should be the top 3 strongest in the verse. Kakunsa was strong enough for #18 in the anime to think #17 may need some help, so I'll just put her at Cell arc #17's level for simplicity's sake. Meanwhile Roasie is bested by base Goku in the anime, but he had to use strategy rather than just overpowering her. Roasie also manages to dodge a punch while smiling from The Preecho, who's stronger than base Cabba, so I guess this is a decent BP for her, I don't think she should be too much weaker than Kakunsa. The other two should probably be a bit more relative to Ribrianne, since they're able to hold #18 in place, but it's clear it was just because she was distracted, and she breaks free easily afterwards.

The next 3 are the fodder who take over the Kamikaze fireballs power-up in the anime, but they don't have that boost in the manga. They fight base Goku for a bit in the anime and manage to get the upperhand since it's 3v1, but they don't seem that strong otherwise. A notch below base Goku seems fair.

Jimeze gets knocked out by #18 in the manga in the first chapter, but in the anime manages to overwhelm base Gohan with IT, so he should be closer to the base Saiyans than the other three.

Finally the other three are fodder. Vikal has no feats, but I don't think any fighter in the ToP cracks below the 1M mark since most of them can probably destroy the arena's Katchin. I have no horse in this race either way. Because Roshi isn't complete fodder, maybe some of the weaker contestants are in the low thousands after all. Prum is also fodder. Harmira faces Tenshinhan in the anime, so he's somewhere comparable to the humans.

Heles' and most of the GoD battle powers is complete conjecture. She just didn't seem particularly strong during the Zen Exhibition, so I'm placing her among the weaker end.

Overall, quite a weak universe. In the anime, they get a boost from the Kamikaze Fireballs 2.0 and their black hole attack, but Ribrianne being their strongest fighter in both mediums is a bit underwhelming.

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Universe 3:

Katopesla: 25.000.000
The Preecho: 50.000.000
Narirama: 50.000.000

Nigrissi: 4.000.000.000

Maji Kayo: 1.000.000.000.000

Biarra: 2.000.000.000

Koitsukai: 1.500.000.000
Pancea: 4.000.000.000
Borareta: 1.500.000.000

Dr. Paparoni: 25.000.000
-- Anilaza: 5.000.000.000.000

Mosco: 80.000.000.000.000.000

Katopesla is unfortunately easily knocked aside by base Vegeta in the manga. Even in the anime, he can only compete with one of his super modes, which isn't present in the manga. The Preecho is surprisingly strong, getting the upperhand on base Cabba and forcing him to go Super Saiyan. Narirama is a bit of a nuisance in the anime, requiring Basil and Hit to take him down.

Then we have Nigrissi, who's touted as one of the strongest fighters in the anime, but gets knocked out by base Cabba. I think when this aired, everyone wondered if someone got the wrong script. I'll chalk it up to the anime inconsistency, or maybe he didn't expect Cabba to react to his sneak attack and got caught off-guard. Because in the manga, surprisingly, he is targeted by Jiren, alongside Maji Kayo and Pancea, after Goku in SS admitted he "wasn't even on his radar." That's pretty impressive, so I'll take it over his anime showcase.

Maji Kayo doesn't do much in the manga besides being targeted by Jiren as said above, but in the anime we all know he could hold down Dyspo and almost mutilated him if Jiren didn't intervene. Maybe he punched above his weight class because of his Boo-like abilities, but nevertheless I'd still say he's one of the stronger beings of the tournament.

Biarra can tangle with #17 and #18 at the same time. He staggers Magetta in the manga, and wants to face Toppo and Dyspo in the anime. He's also stated to be very strong defensively, and one of U3's key players.

Then we have the three fusion fodder, who don't do much in the manga. Pancea is targeted by Jiren, so he should be above SS tier, and the other are that strong due to being relative to him. Surprisingly, in the anime they do manage to fight ultimate Gohan for a bit, and are clearly stronger than the base Saiyans even before fusing, so I think this is a fair placement.

Paparoni isn't much of a fighter. I think he matches Rabanra (U2) in one of the manga panels. Anilaza is the strongest non-U6/7/11 figher in the tournament. Mosco was the first GoD to break Beerus' pseudo-UI, and also only got knocked down by 3 GoD attacking at once. I think he's one of the stronger ones.

Overall, U3 is actually pretty surprisingly strong, despite not being very relevant plot-wise in the arc. I'd say they're probably the strongest non-U6/7/11 universe in the tournament.

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Universe 4:

Ganos: 17.500.000
Caway: 1.000.000
Dercori: 12.000.000

Nink: 25.000.000
Shantsa: 1.000.000

Shosa: 10.000.000
Majora: 10.000.000

Damon: 1.750.000.000
Gamisaras: 1.250.000.000

Monna: 4.000.000.000

Quitela: 101.000.000.000.000.000

Ganos, Caway, and Dercori are some of the fighters Roshi defeats in the anime. He acknowledges both Ganos and Dercori are stronger than him. In the manga, they don't do much. Ganos is touted as one of U4's aces but gets defeated by Roshi straight overpowering him. It's odd because it's not like the anime where you can claim he defeats Kahseral or other fodder due to his skill/strategy, in the anime he just straightly overpowers Ganos with his Kamehameha, so it's hard to give Ganos any credit in terms of battle powers.

Nink matches Katospesla in the manga and in the anime can momentarily hold a distracted base Goku. Shosa and Majora are the characters Kuririn defeats in the anime, so they're not very strong. Shosa is also seen fighting Harmira in the manga, who's weaker than Tenshinhan. Shantsa has no feats.

Damon and Gamisaras are U4's aces, as they defeat both #18 and Piccolo. Of course, they were taken off-guard, as Piccolo can one shot Gamisaras with a Ki blast. Goku, however, praises Damon's strength. They're not very strong, but strong enough to knock characters like #18, Ribrianne and Piccolo around, even #17, so they're not fodder in spite of their abilities making up the difference.

Monna comes out as the real surprise. In the manga she doesn't do anything, but in the anime she of course takes care of SS Cabba and forces him into SS2. So even if that were not the intention of the writers, she comes across as the strongest fighter U4 has.

Quitela is the last man standing along with Beerus in the Exhibition, and it was stated he's his rival and also beat Beerus in arm wrestling, so maybe he's a tad bit stronger.

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Universe 6:

Multipliers:

• Kale's Super Saiyan: Base x 2.000
• Kefla's Super Saiyan: Base x 2

Caulifla: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000

Cabba: 35.000.000
-- SS: 3.500.000.000

Kale: 4.500.000.000
-- SS: 9.000.000.000.000

Kefla: (7.000.000.000.000)
-- SS: 14.000.000.000.000

Hit: 18.000.000.000.000

Frost: 2.500.000.000
Magetta: 4.500.000.000
Botamo: 25.000.000

Dr. Rota: 1.000.000

Saonel: 2.750.000.000
Pirina: 2.500.000.000

Champa: 70.000.000.000.000.000

Caulifla is stronger than Cabba and should be a match for Goku, as per the anime. Cabba mastered the SS form since the tournament. Of course the difference here is they don't go beyond to SS2. Kale, meanwhile, is already stronger than Caulifla's SS form in base form. The LSS/FPSS/Berserker transformation is a 2000x multiplier on top of the base form. Kefla doesn't show her base form in the manga, but the number is there for reference; like in the anime, she's way stronger than SSG Goku. In the anime, she defeats SSB Goku, but he was tired from fighting Jiren, and Vados admits she's not sure she could defeat a fresh Goku. She later transforms into SS2 to fight Omen. I don't think she's as strong as the anime version, but that "very near SSB" tier suits her well, since Kale was already strong enough to knock around a distracted Golden Freeza/SSB Goku/SSB Vegeta.

Frost surprisingly puts up a very good performance in the manga, defeating U9 basically single-handedly and tanking a Shin Kikoho. He's still stronger than Piccolo because of how the Trio de Dangers reacted to Frost taking out the rest of U9.

Hit is now as strong as CSSB Goku. Dr. Rota is fodder, unfortunately for me because I find him hilarious. Saonel and Pirina are stronger in the anime, since they scale above Piccolo who's at least SS2 tier in the ToP, but in the manga, they're basically featless. Out of reverence for their role in the anime and the fact that they should be as strong as or even stronger than Piccolo thematically, they're at this level here.

Champa is weaker than Beerus but should still put up a good fight, as seen in the anime and the flashback over their birthday cake. Beerus seemed in control even in that fight, so when things get serious, Beerus is the clear winner.

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Universe 7:

Multipliers:

• Ultra Instinct Sign: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 50
• Mastered Ultra Instinct: Sign x 50
• Super Saiyan Blue Evolution: Completed Super Saiyan Blue x 20

Goku: 36.500.000
-- SS: 3.650.000.000
-- SS2: 7.300.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.250.000.000.000
-- UI Sign: 912.500.000.000.000
-- MUI: 45.625.000.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000
-- SSBE: 370.000.000.000.000

Gohan: 35.000.000
-- Ultimate: 14.000.000.000.000

Piccolo: 2.000.000.000

Artificial Human #18: 1.500.000.000
Artificial Human #17: 1.800.000.000.000

Muten Roshi: 5.000
-- Pseudo UI: 10.000.000

Tenshinhan: 15.000.000
Kuririn: 17.500.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Beerus: 100.000.000.000.000.000

Goku claims he's rusty at the start of the arc, so I doubt he and Vegeta have got much stronger - Vegeta's been training, but it's to master SSB. UIS is 50x CSSB, and MUI is 50x Sign. This may seem to high but I want MUI to be somewhere in the ballpark of Blue Fusions, as that's how strong Heroes kinda portrays it, and it seems to be the implication even in canon. This means, because of how ridiculously strong Gogeta scales in Broly, the multipliers have to be this huge. Plus, it kinda fits with the anime's scaling, since Sign is at least over 20x (due to the Kaioken). Goku also uses a pseudo-Kaioken in the manga. Evolution's multiplier I think increases in the Granolah arc to be equal to Sign's, but in this arc, Jiren outright admits that Sign is stronger. I think a 20x multiplier to match SSBKKx20 like the anime works fine for now.

Gohan got his groove back and matches Kefla, just slightly below CSSB. Piccolo got a slight power boost once again. It hurts me to do this to Piccolo since he actually seems to be somewhat relative to Ultimate Gohan in the Moro arc, and in the anime he outright overpowers SS2 Gohan in their training, but in Superhero he seems to be back to being below a rusty SS Gohan, so he's obviously not as strong as we all think. The most I can give him is enough motivation to at least match Frost from back in the U6 arc. I think that's fair, since he defeats Bergamo easily, who managed to tank a full-power blast from Frost; he also seems even with Hyssop (U9) with whom Frost struggled for a bit. Even back in the U6 arc, they weren't that far apart.

The artificial humans are hard to scale too, since again, in the Moro arc #17 and #18 are both relative and Moro praises them both, but we know 17 is far beyond his sister. Whatever Goku means by "he's as strong as us" obviously doesn't mean CSSB, since #17 plays it sneakily and avoids big confrontations in the manga. If you want to grant him SSB tier in the anime, sure, but in the manga the most he does is tire out Dyspo and scare SS3 Goku. I think slotting him in at that incomplete SSB tier works well for him. I can't in good conscience have #18 over Piccolo, and I don't think either of the two are SS tier at all.

The humans at this point could probably range anywhere from the low millions to 30M, but I've decided to be conservative since they haven't been training much. I think this is a fair middle ground, the Saiyans are still stronger, but they can give them a good run for their money in base form with strategy and techniques. Yamcha in the next arc states he's still a top 3 Earthling, so despite his form, Roshi should be still weaker.

Freeza now matches CSSB with his Golden Form, which in the manga does not receive an updated name, but should be the same thing as True Golden Freeza. As I said back in the RF arc, Freeza can't be much stronger than SS2/SS3 tier at most, since he gets damaged by SS Caulifla's full-powered attack and is forced to transform. Even if he's distracted or off-guard, that's still a considerable anti-feat for SSG-tier Freeza.

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Universe 9:

Bergamo: 1.750.000.000
Basil: 1.600.000.000
Lavender: 1.200.000.000

Rozelle: 1.000.000.000
Hyssop: 2.000.000.000
Comfrey: 2.250.000.000

Chappil: 250.000.000
Oregano: 25.000.000
Hop: 25.000.000
Sorrel: 12.000.000

Sidra: 40.000.000.000.000.000

The Trio de Dangers' teamwork can make even Ultimate Gohan struggle a bit, but they're all individually below SS tier since Piccolo defeats their leader easily. Even in the anime, Lavender can't match a blind SS Gohan, and Bergamo was also being toyed around with by SS Goku. It's only Basil after taking a steroid who can somewhat pressure Mr. Boo.

Rozelle manages to grab ahold of Piccolo and Hyssop also clashes evenly with Piccolo for a few panels, so they're surprisingly strong. Comfrey is perhaps the more surprising fodder, since he clashes evenly with Frost and forced him to use an explosive wave that expanded all his energy. Sure, Frost was tired, but they should still be close in strength. It's surprising that the Trio aren't the strongest in their verse, since that seems to be the implication, but Hysopp and Comfrey have much better feats. The Trio ran away when Frost was doing his rampage.

Oregano manages to hold base Vegeta for a bit in the anime. Chappil easily tanks base Goku's punches but gets overwhelmed by SS. Sorrel in the manga matches Dercori, and Hop matches Katopesla and can pressure base Vegeta in the anime. The fandom thinks Sidra is the weakest GoD. There's not much to point toward it, but his performance in the Exhibition wasn't great, so I'm inclined to agree. Overall, U9 probably comes out as one of the more balanced universes. A lot of the characters are in that nebulous gap between the base Saiyans and SS, and the weaker ones aren't complete fodder.

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Universe 10:

Murichim: 1.500.000.000
Napapa: 1.500.000.000
Rubalt: 1.500.000.000

Lilibeu: 1.000.000
Murisam: 1.000.000
Zircor: 1.000.000

Dyrasem: 25.000.000
Methiop: 25.000.000
Dium: 10.000.000

Obuni: 3.000.000.000

Rumsshi: 90.000.000.000.000.000

Like Nigrissi, Murichim is done a bit dirty, because he's supposed to be an ace and the team leader, but doesn't have many feats. In the manga, he knocks Hop (U9) away very easily, and is then defeated by Gamisaras. In the anime, he's defeated by Freeza, but Vegeta wanted to fight him, so maybe he's a worthy opponent. He was also able to attack a Toppo suppressed enough to fight Magetta. Because he's the leader of the team, he should maybe be a bit strong.

Napapa is actually quite strong, too. In the anime, he manages to push SS Caulifla around for a bit. He also fights Basil evenly. In the manga, he fights Saonel and Pirina, but gets knocked out by Piccolo. Rubalt is easily defeated by 17 in the manga, and can give Piccolo a decent fight in the anime. Lilibel, Zircor and Murisam are fodder. Dyrasem is easily knocked out by Piccolo and base Ribrianne in the anime, but there's a panel of him fighting Botamo. There's a panel of Methiop fighting Zarbuto (U2) and he also deals with defenseless base Kale in the anime.

Dium's Ki blast in the anime threatened Kuririn, so he's not complete fodder. He even survived being rung out by #17 in the manga. Of course, the real star, is supposed to be Obuni. In the anime, he matches ultimate Gohan, but in the manga he shouldn't be that strong, since he's taken out by Kale easily, who's much weaker than Gohan. We see him fight Comfrey evenly, however, and he's the last non U6/7/11 fighter remaining, it seems he survived quite a few hits from Kale too. I'd say he's a bit stronger than Comfrey since that's the only character we see him fight in the manga.

Rumsshi is to me one of the stronger GoDs, because of how he was portrayed in the Exhibition. This universe I expected to be full of complete fodder, but it actually has 4 powerful fighters once you analyze things carefully, although the rest are basically useless. Before I get to U11, I think I actually prefer how the anime tried to beef up some of these fighters a bit more, because in the manga most are sub-SS tier and any Super Saiyan could have just powered up and wiped 90% of the roster -- and that's exactly what happened, although not just any regular Super Saiyan. Although that is perhaps more logical in-universe, it isn't as fun, even if I personally prefer the arc overall in the manga.

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Universe 11:

Vewon: 30.000.000
Zoire: 30.000.000
Kettle: 30.000.000
Kahseral: 10.000.000

Tupper: 1.250.000.000
Cocotte: 1.500.000.000

Kunshi: 200.000.000.000
Dyspo: 2.000.000.000.000
Toppo: 20.000.000.000.000

Jiren: 46.000.000.000.000.000

Belmod: 45.000.000.000.000.000

Most of the Pride Troopers are fairly weak but they manage to punch above their weight due to their impeccable teamwork. Vewon, Zoire, and Kettle don't have any significant feats. Because U11 is the strongest universe, I'll just grant that they're stronger than the average fighter - they could all overpower base Goku working together. Tupper in both the anime and the manga manages to overpower base Goku but is then picked up by #18 and SS Goku respectively. Cocotte manages to stand her ground against #18 in the anime, and in the manga she fights solo, so she must be quite capable. Kahseral is touted as one of the leaders of U11 but the fact he gets knocked out by Roshi isn't very impressive; even in the anime he doesn't amount to much. Maybe he's valuable due to his strategy and leadership, but he also comes across as quite narrow-minded in his fight with Roshi, though I guess he could be quite capable and just have a different mentality regarding fighting (soldier vs martial artist).

Kunshi of course has a great performance working alongside Dyspo in the anime vs SSG Goku and Hit. In the manga, he doesn't amount to much, but that's no reason to discount his performance, much like Maji Kayo. Dyspo, on the other hand, seems to have a fluctuating BP even in the anime. In the manga, he's scared of Kefla, so he's not at Gohan or Blue tier; even in the anime he could only keep up with Gohan and Freeza with his speed. The only indications we have of his strength in the manga are that he's way stronger than SS2 Goku, but not quite as strong as Kefla; he also tires from fighting #17. Like #17, that early incomplete Blue tier seems fitting for him.

It seems obvious Jiren is stronger than Belmod since it was literally stated, but with how Beerus has been a constant moving goalpost, that, by extension, also brings the other GoDs up by proxy. Especially Belmod, who seemed to be portrayed as one of the stronger GoDs in the Exhibition - at the very least, one of the more clever ones. "In combat skill alone," Toppo says about Jiren vs Belmod. It's arguable, whatever, I'd probably assume the gap isn't too big. I'll give the nod to Jiren but they're close enough.

Broly:

Spoiler:

Multipliers:

• Wrathful: Base x 10
• Legendary Super Saiyan: Super Saiyan x 2.000
• Hypothetical Mastered Legendary Super Saiyan: LSS x 2

Goku: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Vegeta: 37.000.000
-- SS: 3.700.000.000
-- SSG: 370.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 18.500.000.000.000

Freeza: 20.000.000.000
-- (True) Golden: 20.000.000.000.000

Broly: 470.000.000.000
-- Wrathful: 4.700.000.000.000
-- SS: 23.500.000.000.000
-- LSS: 47.000.000.000.000.000
-- Hypothetical MLSS: 94.500.000.000.000.000

Gogeta: 12.500.000.000.000
-- SS: 25.000.000.000.000
-- CSSB: 125.000.000.000.000.000

Gogeta's power is what bloats this list beyond proportion. Without his multipliers, I could theoretically cap the list off at the trillions. But the fact that he's SSB tier in his base form is ridiculous, even with the already decreased SS multiplier I give fusions. The only way I could make these numbers less ridiculous would be by giving the other forms reduced multipliers as well. And since I already decreased SS, there's validity in the argument that I could just go all the way. I'll toy with the idea later, because I don't really like this sort of scaling, because even the series doesn't support such a vast difference between Gogeta Blue and Gogeta SS, or Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue; Blue is still used by Goku to somewhat keep up with opponents at MUI tier later in the series (Granolah and Gas for example), and the Gammas can damage Cell Max, so it's not like there's such a huge gap between SSB Goku and MUI/Blue Fusions, at least not in Toyotaro's continuity or arguably Toriyama's -- I think at most Toriyama probably started viewing SSG as 10x SS and then SSB as 10x SSG as he wrote his scripts, but that's not really coherent with the multipliers we have, unless we think the SEG was wrong and SS3 is actually just 2x SS2 rather than 4x, that'd make things a bit easier to chew.

I think what irks me the most is the fact that SSB Goku and Vegeta were admittedly outclassed but not one shot by SS Broly. And Freeza of course survived an hour. This means there's a gap, but not a huge one. And then the movie doesn't make a big deal out of his next transformation, LSS/Berserker/FPSS or whatever. It's arguable if it even exists in the manga at all. It's hard to reconcile the fact Goku says Broly can be stronger than Beerus with the fact Broly is arguably surpassed by Moro, Granolah, Gas, Vegeta and Gohan in the next arcs, too. But we work with what we're given.

Broly's multipliers in Wrathful and SS are self-explanatory, then the LSS/FPSS multiplier was arbitrary but just enough to slot him in there as stronger than Jiren. Assuming that form is controlled, I can see a x2 multiplier pushing him near Beerus like Goku said, becoming a real threat Gogeta needs to put down, and still being of interest to Freeza currently. It's the only way I can see to make sense of the thematic implications and hints at Broly's power.

Continuing on the next post due to surpassing word count.

The idea is often treated as heretical for a few reasons (big one is Beerus's statement about Goku not being able to beat Freeza), but I feel like a lot of weirdness with scaling gets alleviated by assuming Super Saiyan is a 5x (or maybe 10x) boost from the Artificial Humans onward. It very neatly puts Goku at 600 kili against Yakon in base and allows the Earthlings to seem less silly for showing up against No. 19 and 20 if base Vegeta (who they seem to be weaker than) is sitting in the tens of millions rather than the low millions, just to name two things.

I'm not trying to say that that read is objectively correct all the time or anything, but I do think Toriyama wrote the series with much smaller "multipliers" in mind from time to time.

Toriyama himself said he wrote SS as x10 post Namek and I agree the series also sees it that way most of the time, I think in Broly SS-SSG-SSB are all portrayed as a x5 or x10 boost from the previous form. But unfortunately there's no in universe explanation for it.

[DanielSSJ]

The idea is often treated as heretical for a few reasons (big one is Beerus's statement about Goku not being able to beat Freeza), but I feel like a lot of weirdness with scaling gets alleviated by assuming Super Saiyan is a 5x (or maybe 10x) boost from the Artificial Humans onward. It very neatly puts Goku at 600 kili against Yakon in base and allows the Earthlings to seem less silly for showing up against No. 19 and 20 if base Vegeta (who they seem to be weaker than) is sitting in the tens of millions rather than the low millions, just to name two things.

I'm not trying to say that that read is objectively correct all the time or anything, but I do think Toriyama wrote the series with much smaller "multipliers" in mind from time to time.

I've been toying with the idea of dropping the 50x boost from the Freeza fight entirely. Ignoring official numbers, you could make the fight work with a 30x Super Saiyan boost, or even a 20x boost. The Kaioken kinda sucks. In the last arc, Vegeta survived a blast that was, on paper, nearly twice his power level and was still in fighting shape.

[Haighter]

The Kaioken kinda sucks. In the last arc, Vegeta survived a blast that was, on paper, nearly twice his power level and was still in fighting shape.

That's also assuming the Kamehameha didn't raise Goku's battle power as it did against Raditz, which would put that blast upwards of four times Vegeta's power lol.

[DanielSSJ]

The Kaioken kinda sucks. In the last arc, Vegeta survived a blast that was, on paper, nearly twice his power level and was still in fighting shape.

That's also assuming the Kamehameha didn't raise Goku's battle power as it did against Raditz, which would put that blast upwards of four times Vegeta's power lol.

I tend to think it doesn't. Not only do I think that Goku's 416 power was only his resting power and that his full power is a lot closer to the 924 number, using the Kaioken hampers Goku's ability to get the most out of his power, particularly at higher levels, so you wouldn't see as big a jump up in battle power from him using the Kamehameha.

[ZombieVito]

I find the theory someone from Neoseeker created fits better than the decreasing SS theory.



It not only keeps the official 50 times multiplier but it also makes Yakon only being 3.75 times weaker than SS Goku fit very well. We can also use this for Daima where Base Goku is shown to be stronger than Shin who in turn is also stronger than Piccolo.

[DanielSSJ]

I find the theory someone from Neoseeker created fits better than the decreasing SS theory.



It not only keeps the official 50 times multiplier but it also makes Yakon only being 3.75 times weaker than SS Goku fit very well. We can also use this for Daima where Base Goku is shown to be stronger than Shin who in turn is also stronger than Piccolo.

I'm not a fan of it, I'm afraid. It's easier for me to buy the idea that the gap between base and Super Saiyan simply shrinks over time as the user gets used to it or something.