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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:56 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:24 pm I’m not exactly fond of cliffhangers or unresolved story beats, so I do think they should at least wrap up the Black Freeza thing before laying Super to rest once and for all.
The only reason I can see this not being wrapped up in the manga is because they plan to do so in one final Super movie. It just wouldn't make sense to stop a story that's been going on since 2013 right when it's about to cross the finish line.

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Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:40 pm

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:56 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:24 pm I’m not exactly fond of cliffhangers or unresolved story beats, so I do think they should at least wrap up the Black Freeza thing before laying Super to rest once and for all.
The only reason I can see this not being wrapped up in the manga is because they plan to do so in one final Super movie. It just wouldn't make sense to stop a story that's been going on since 2013 right when it's about to cross the finish line.
Would they even be allowed to make a movie that covers Black Freeza and the other manga exclusive material?

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Post by Adamant » Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:13 pm

Skar wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:49 am Image

I saw this posted later so it's unclear if Toyotaro is working on a new manga or working on the Super manga again.
That's blatantly incorrect, the translation in the first post is of this line from the linked page on the official Japan Expo website itself.
Toyotaro, le mangaka de Dragon Ball: Super, s’entretient avec l’éditeur qui a marqué l’histoire du manga, Kazuhiko Torishima, au sujet de son premier projet de manga original ! Kazuhiko Torishima lui dévoile ses techniques balèzes qu’il a peaufinées tout du long de sa carrière...

This isn't something being "reported" by some third party, it's the actual original announcement itself.
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Post by Saiya6Cit » Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:45 pm

These news are not relevant for me at all.

I never liked super and never agreed to his title of successor. Many others could have done a better job and, maybe, with less plagerism. But to each their own.

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sun Jun 08, 2025 12:00 am

Saiya6Cit wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:45 pmI never liked super and never agreed to his title of successor.
Same here, but if you're going to let something go on for 10 years, you might as well wrap it up properly. They can gave a mediocre movie like Superhero 17 chapters worth of material, so why can't a new arc like Black Freeza get even just 10 chapters to properly conclude this era of Dragon Ball ? Even GT got a proper conclusion.

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Post by Skar » Sun Jun 08, 2025 4:46 am

Adamant wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 11:13 pmThat's blatantly incorrect, the translation in the first post is of this line from the linked page on the official Japan Expo website itself.
Toyotaro, le mangaka de Dragon Ball: Super, s’entretient avec l’éditeur qui a marqué l’histoire du manga, Kazuhiko Torishima, au sujet de son premier projet de manga original ! Kazuhiko Torishima lui dévoile ses techniques balèzes qu’il a peaufinées tout du long de sa carrière...

This isn't something being "reported" by some third party, it's the actual original announcement itself.
Oh ok thank you. Hmm I'm not sure how Toyotaro will manage both. Maybe the announcement is either that he'll start this new manga after finishing the Super manga or Super might remain in hiatus until he finishes this new manga?

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:55 am

Skar wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 4:46 amOh ok thank you. Hmm I'm not sure how Toyotaro will manage both. Maybe the announcement is either that he'll start this new manga after finishing the Super manga or Super might remain in hiatus until he finishes this new manga?
Here's a third possibility: it's a short manga to give him something to do until it's decided what will happen with Dragon Ball. The biggest problem with this whole situation is how silent everyone involved has been since Toriyama's passing.

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Post by MCDaveG » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:53 am

I am quite curious about this would be original manga. So far we've just seen him copy the artstyle and draw existing IP.
Will he keep the artstyle from DB or go with something original and more of his?

Anyways, not surprised. Japanese showbiz is still not like Lucasfilm, to announce 10 projects each year as soon as they leave the idea room to cancel them afterwards in preproduction.
The lack of this kind of news on one hand gives fans the fodder for joining camps of firm believers that this will get sequel or this must definitely continue, because it was popular before and can bring money, theorists or being chill... as what is not officially announced, simply doesn't exist against everyone's biggest wishes.
This kinda confirms to me personally, that DB Super is finally dead even in the sorta manga sequel.

Looking forward to what Toyotaro comes up with and wish him the best... Hope that it won't be total flop as it's his first commercial thing.
Really happy for this guy, that's quite an oportunity. Is Dr. Mashirito his editor?
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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:32 pm

MCDaveG wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:53 amWill he keep the artstyle from DB or go with something original and more of his?
I can see it being a modified version of his current art style. As for the actual story, considering his experience with DB, I think it's safe to assume it'll be an action series. I hope people actually give him a chance to show what he's capable of, instead of writing it off based on his work on Super. Super was a very corporate controlled series; he was just doing what he was told, rather than what he himself wanted to do.
MCDaveG wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:53 amHope that it won't be total flop as it's his first commercial thing.
It would have to be something original in order for it to take off. If he tries to use a theme that's already popular in other series (ninjas being associated with Naruto for example), then I'm not sure it'll be a success. Another thing to consider is pacing, he needs to come out of the gate running in order to keep the short attention span of today's audience. If this has the same pacing as Super did, it'll crash and burn fast.

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Post by Adamant » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:34 pm

MCDaveG wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:53 amIs Dr. Mashirito his editor?
Torishima hasn't been an editor for over 30 years, and it's been 10 years since he left Shueisha.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:08 pm

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 3:18 pm
Hugo Boss wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:37 pm I’m looking forward to it. At least, it will be nice to see new content from his own perspective until Dragon Ball Super comes back. I just don’t see how this new project is affecting Super’s return, like some takes I’ve read are suggesting.
Writing and drawing one manga is enough to put some mangaka in the hospital, so the chances of him doing two at the same time are basically 0. If this new project of his is going to be a long running series (it could be a limited series for all we know), then he won't be working on DB anymore.
That would, then, depend on how this work will be implemented, if there are assistants, etc. Factors we don’t know exactly yet. But a mangaka can theoretically work with two (or more) different manga at the same time, and some certainly did.

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Post by sangofe » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:43 am

Toyotarou could already have made a one shot and go back to Dragon Ball Super or maybe he did both already.

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Post by Captain Awesome » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:29 am

God I hope this means we don't have to endure a Black Freeza arc

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Post by Vegard Aune » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:20 am

Captain Awesome wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:29 am God I hope this means we don't have to endure a Black Freeza arc
If a Black Freeza arc does happen, (which, if Super isn't just cancelled, it absolutely should) nobody is forcing you to read it. You don't "have to endure" anything.

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Post by Grimlock » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:43 am

Vegard Aune wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:20 amIf a Black Freeza arc does happen, (which, if Super isn't just cancelled, it absolutely should) nobody is forcing you to read it. You don't "have to endure" anything.
Not true. Those who want to see new, different things would have to endure a third Freeza-centered "plot". You don't necessarily need to keep up with it by actually reading/watching it, just the waiting part for what is next is suffering enough.

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:33 pm

Breaking News: "After clarification with Japan Expo, it turns out that Toyotaro is NOT working on any new manga, the site phrased the panel description badly. Toyotaro is set to talk about DRAGON BALL SUPER Manga with Torishima on July 6th!"

Source: https://x.com/DbsHype/status/1933192687840354598

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Post by sangofe » Fri Jun 13, 2025 5:57 am

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:33 pm Breaking News: "After clarification with Japan Expo, it turns out that Toyotaro is NOT working on any new manga, the site phrased the panel description badly. Toyotaro is set to talk about DRAGON BALL SUPER Manga with Torishima on July 6th!"

Source: https://x.com/DbsHype/status/1933192687840354598
Guess what? Seems like there wasn't a translation error after all: https://x.com/vondbz/status/1933196267607532016

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:27 am

sangofe wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 5:57 am
Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:33 pm Breaking News: "After clarification with Japan Expo, it turns out that Toyotaro is NOT working on any new manga, the site phrased the panel description badly. Toyotaro is set to talk about DRAGON BALL SUPER Manga with Torishima on July 6th!"

Source: https://x.com/DbsHype/status/1933192687840354598
Guess what? Seems like there wasn't a translation error after all: https://x.com/vondbz/status/1933196267607532016
At this point I have no idea what's going on. I guess we'll see next month.

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Post by MCDaveG » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:28 am

Whoa... so he will talk about his work and get grilled by Torishima.
Never liked the guy, but it was fun from all the background info, how Toriyama kind of trolled him.
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Post by Mister_Popo » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:10 pm

Apparently, at Japan Expo, Toyotarou presented a completely original manga titled Lost Samurai, with no mention of Dragon Ball Super. Source: French YouTuber Saiyko Devin – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgkCL98xHA0

It also seemed rather unlikely to me, especially considering Toriyama's recent passing and the ongoing legal dispute between Akio Iyoku and Shueisha, which may not have been resolved yet, that DBS would already be receiving a continuation. While there's still a chance that the DBS manga might return someday, legal disputes can often take a long time to settle, so it's probably not happening anytime soon.

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