The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Koitsukai]

Cell Games FPSS Goku vs Cell Games SS Vegeta (enraged, after Trunks is killed by SP Cell)

[PhantomSaiyan]

Cell Games FPSS Goku vs Cell Games SS Vegeta (enraged, after Trunks is killed by SP Cell)

I think Goku wins this one still. He was clearly superior to Vegeta, and even if enraged, back then rage boosts were only a thing for Gohan.

In fact, enraged Cell Games Vegeta might actually be a downgrade, he was just erraticly spamming ki blasts with no regard for strategy, it makes it easier for an already more powerful Goku to outsmart him. It wasn't until BoG where rage actually worked out for him

[Koitsukai]

Cell's lab isn't destroyed. Many years go by and he is finally ready to be born. Somehow he manages to absorb DBS 17 and DBS 18 (in their sleep, I don't know). After powering up a lot by absorbing as many people as in the main continuity.

How does this Perfect Cell at full power do against the post Top arc villains?
Vs Moro73
Vs Granola
Vs Old Gas
Vs UE Vegeta
Vs UI Goku
Vs Broly
Vs Cell Max
Vs Gohan Beast
Vs Black Freeza

Can he beat any of this fellas? What if he gets a zenkai boost like after surviving his self destruction, becoming Super Perfect Cell?

[TobyS]

Cell's lab isn't destroyed. Many years go by and he is finally ready to be born. Somehow he manages to absorb DBS 17 and DBS 18 (in their sleep, I don't know). After powering up a lot by absorbing as many people as in the main continuity.

How does this Perfect Cell at full power do against the post Top arc villains?
Vs Moro73
Vs Granola
Vs Old Gas
Vs UE Vegeta
Vs UI Goku
Vs Broly
Vs Cell Max
Vs Gohan Beast
Vs Black Freeza

Can he beat any of this fellas? What if he gets a zenkai boost like after surviving his self destruction, becoming Super Perfect Cell?

I think it depends on if like the androids work as a multiplier, additive, or a catalyst to trigger a set amount of power of cells current potential (sans training, assuming training would work for him)

1. He could end up as strong as he was in the cell saga.
2. Just 17s plus a tiny bump from imperfect cells power.
3. Or he could be like amount he grew between imperfect and semi but that multiplier proportional to 17s new strength/or like the two added together x a multiplier of about 2x for each android. Although Perfect was a lot stronger jump then semi.

1 and 2 he's not beating Moro or Broly from the Broly movie.

Scenario 3, IDK I still feel like Moro 73's energy absorbing is too much. I think given 17's proximity to Blue Super Saiyans I'd say an imperfect cell to Perfect cell increase is like less than the multiplier to UI over blue.
The highest highball I think he loses to Freeza as Freeza one shot both Goku and Vegeta and Gohan is stronger than Goku but not able to 1 shot him.

[クリリン]

I am pretty sure I can win. Winning is the new thing. I can win. I always succeed. After winning there is succeed. This is a pass from the past!
Pass pass
Pass
Pass
Win.
I win.
Succeed.
Pass.
Pass.

[PhantomSaiyan]

I am pretty sure I can win. Winning is the new thing. I can win. I always succeed. After winning there is succeed. This is a pass from the past!
Pass pass
Pass
Pass
Win.
I win.
Succeed.
Pass.
Pass.

I'm not sure I understamd but you convinced me, I believe in you, you can win

[Koitsukai]

Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Goten vs Super Perfect Cell.
Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Trunks vs Dabura.

Early Buu arc SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku.
If Trunks can beat him, could he also beat the stronger SS Gohan? not in a row, of course.

[Hellspawn28]

Goku crashes land on Subnautica as a baby (Not DB- Goku). Would Goku live there on his own, or does he die without anyone helping him?

[Noah]

New match:

- Super Vegetto (mini) vs. Giant Gomah

[LightBing]

Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Goten vs Super Perfect Cell.
Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Trunks vs Dabura.

Early Buu arc SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku.
If Trunks can beat him, could he also beat the stronger SS Gohan? not in a row, of course.

SSJ2 Goten(0%) vs Super Perfect Cell(100%)
The kid stands no chance. I believe the kids aren't that strong, below Piccolo for sure.
Cell is far too strong.

SSJ2 Trunks(15%) vs Dabra(85%)
This is more interesting. Dabra is equal to Perfect Cell, with magic he becomes more dangerous. In terms of power this hypothetical Trunks might be somewhat close. Assuming they are in the same ballpark, Dabra holds huge advantage in experience and techniques.

SSJ Trunks(0%) vs Cell Games SSJ Goku(100%)
Goku is miles ahead. When he came out of the RoSaT and demonstrated 50% of his power everyone was in awe. Trunks still has a long way to go.

[Hellspawn28]

Hit vs. Maji-Kayo

Who wins?

[nineko]

Cabba Super Saiyan God versus Buu (the one with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo).

[Koitsukai]

Cabba Super Saiyan God versus Buu (the one with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo).

Cabba destroys. His base power is comparable to U6 Vegeta, who should be stronger than Goku's base form from BoG. Buuhan has no chance at all against any SSG.
I wouldn't even bet on Buuhan defeating SSG Goten.

[Peach]

Cabba Super Saiyan God versus Buu (the one with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo).

The Cabba we saw in Super has the power to sneeze any version of Buu out of existence. But Buu does fight dirty with the candy beam and absorbing. ....I would say it's 50-50. Cabba would have to not act like Cabba and end it quickly, otherwise Buu is going to cheat to win.

New match:

- Super Vegetto (mini) vs. Giant Gomah

This is a hard one. The gap between Super Saiyan 4 Mini Goku and Super Saiyan 4 Adult Goku seemed massive. It's hard to say if Vegito would also be held back with the first grade body or if he would be powerful enough to be comparable to adult Goku. My gut leans towards Vegito dominating Gomah, but not having the power to cleanly put him down... Leading to Gomah gathering enough energy with the eye eventually. I think the body being like a first grader is too much of a handicap.

Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Goten vs Super Perfect Cell.
Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Trunks vs Dabura.

Early Buu arc SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku.
If Trunks can beat him, could he also beat the stronger SS Gohan? not in a row, of course.

The Goten and Trunks fight is interesting. Do they have the power to win? Yes. BUT.... Cell and Dabura fight dirty. Personality wise, do you see Goten or Trunks putting their opponents down decisively? Because I don't. They like to screw around and often don't take things as seriously as they should. What's going to stop Cell from blowing himself up or puncturing Goten to absorb energy his tail? Would Trunks be able to put Dabura before he catches him off guard and spits at him? That, I'm not sure. I give it to Cell and Dabura because of that.

Also, Goku for the third fight.

[Almighty Majin]

Instead of Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo in the Demon Realm, they are replaced with Turles, Broly (Z, M8), and Slug.

They still have support from Neva backing them up. Turles can plant the Tree of Might in the Demon Realm once per Demon World.

How do they fare? How much fruit will Turles have to eat to keep up with the Demon Realm fighters? Will Broly have to ascend to a new level? Can Neva unleash all of their latent power (SSJ4 Broly and Orange Slug)?

[Almighty Majin]

How strong is Cyborg Freeza from Super Dragon Ball Z? Mecha Freeza in the main story was essentially a rush job, this version seems to be completely upgraded and much more powerful, but how strong is he actually? Who is the strongest fighter he can defeat? Who does he lose to?

[dragon boss z]

Cell Games FPSS Goku vs Cell Games SS Vegeta (enraged, after Trunks is killed by SP Cell)

Goku pretty easily.

Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Goten vs Super Perfect Cell.
Early Buu arc Hypothetical SS2 Trunks vs Dabura.

Early Buu arc SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku.
If Trunks can beat him, could he also beat the stronger SS Gohan? not in a row, of course.

Super Perfect Cell.

I could see ssj2 Trunks or Dabura going either way.

Cell Games.

Cell vs Goku
Cell vs Gohan
Cell vs Vegeta
Cell vs Trunks
Cell vs Piccolo
Cell vs A-16
Cell vs Krilin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha

There's no senzu for Cell, there's not doubt in Gohan's mind and he goes all out as a SS (but no SS2), there are no Cell Jrs. Can all of them weaken Cell enough for him to not be able to survive against all 9 fighters? Can he suffer the fate Vegeta suffered on Earth?

What if Goku eats a Senzu and goes for a 2nd round after Gohan loses, even if he dies, can he make it easier for the remaining fighters to take on Cell?


2) Post-ROSAT SS Vegeta (no grade forms, just regular SS) vs Android 16.

Loses right at Gohan if Gohan actually fights seriously. Goku said it wouldn’t be a fair fight without it.

Hit vs. Maji-Kayo

Who wins?

Hit scales way higher but Maji-Kaylo is a bad matchup for him…I still feel like Hit can pull it off.

Cabba Super Saiyan God versus Buu (the one with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo).

Can arguably wins in base in the anime. In the manga he would need at least ssj3 probably, but definitely wins with SSG.

How strong is Cyborg Freeza from Super Dragon Ball Z? Mecha Freeza in the main story was essentially a rush job, this version seems to be completely upgraded and much more powerful, but how strong is he actually? Who is the strongest fighter he can defeat? Who does he lose to?

The strongest character Mecha Frieza can beat is Namek Frieza, or if he’s lucky Namek ssj Goku.

[Peach]

Android 18 vs Vegeta

Same Vegeta that fought her when they met, but he developed the final flash early, got pissed off, and used the final flash on her.

[TobyS]

Android 18 vs Vegeta

Same Vegeta that fought her when they met, but he developed the final flash early, got pissed off, and used the final flash on her.

Cell tanked it knowing it wasn't powerful enough, and he can sense ki.
Vegeta made it powerful enough by narrowing the beam width, but Cell had regeneration.

18 Can't sense ki, but she also isn't supressing more power, doesn't have regen in her back pocket, and knows she can't sense ki and that vegeta's attacks can hurt her somewhat.

So yeah if she tried to tank it would kill her, as would any charged attack from anyone above Tenshinhan (excl kikoho)
The issue is she'd dodge and/or block.

[Mystic-han]

Cell Games FPSS Goku vs Cell Games SS Vegeta (enraged, after Trunks is killed by SP Cell)

Going by Z / OG manga rules if you aren't Gohan you got weaker from getting angry unless you unlock a new Transformation so this is a handicap for vegeta