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[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Yeah the Pilaf gang really overstayed their welcome, GT was fine with them being a one-off (not to mention they were realistically aged) but every anime doesn't need it's own Team Rocket-style trio, and the Trunks/Mai ship is just indefensible.

[The Dark Knight]

I don't mind the Pilaf gang being around as comic relief, I haven't seen Battle of Gods in a long time but I remember them being kinda funny. It's just the Trunks/Mai stuff specifically that feels gross.

The Pilaf gang were used a little too much in that movie for my liking; I think in their case less is more. As for the Mai and Trunks relationship, it really, REALLY needs to go. Why not just create a character from scratch instead who's closer to Trunks' age ?

Every anime doesn't need it's own Team Rocket-style trio.

The people behind Super seemed interested in following trends set by other anime, rather than being the ones to set the trends like they did back in the day when classic DB & Z were a thing. More often than not, Super felt like it was trying to be One Piece 2.0, rather than a genuine continuation of Dragon Ball.

[MasenkoHA]

. Why not just create a character from scratch instead who's closer to Trunks' age ?

The people behind Super seemed interested in following trends set by other anime, rather than being the ones to set the trends like they did back in the day when classic DB & Z were a thing.

The genesis of Dragon Ball was “Well Japanese kids are familiar with Journey to the West” and then became “Hey Fist of the North Star is super popular just do that”

Let’s not pretend Dragon Ball has ever been a pioneer.

[JulieYBM]

I have to agree with MasenkoHA, Trunks and Goten make a great romantic pairing! Far better than Trunks and Mai!

[The Dark Knight]

The genesis of Dragon Ball was “Well Japanese kids are familiar with Journey to the West” and then became “Hey Fist of the North Star is super popular just do that”

Classic Dragon Ball took inspiration from elsewhere but did its own thing with it, while Super and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Daima feel like they're just copying whatever's popular at the moment, that being One Piece.

[JulieYBM]

Toriyam was just straight up lifting storyline and character ideas from 1980s films and 1990s. Dragon Ball Super isn't all that different from that. Heck, I'm not even sure you could find something like semi-lifting the plot of the Terminator films in Dragon Ball Super.

[Koitsukai]

Trunks and Goten fuse for laughs, that's a deeper bond than anything I can think of.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Toriyam was just straight up lifting storyline and character ideas from 1980s films and 1990s. Dragon Ball Super isn't all that different from that. Heck, I'm not even sure you could find something like semi-lifting the plot of the Terminator films in Dragon Ball Super.

The entire plot of the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai also borrows HEAVILY from Five Fingers of Death. I don't mind because Terminator is a different genre (Sci-Fi) and like the aforementioned kung fu movie Dragon Ball blends stories from different genres to give it its own unique flavour and advance it's own narrative, which is ultimately about Goku always striving to become perpetually stronger through constant competition and adversity.

[JulieYBM]

Trunks and Goten fuse for laughs, that's a deeper bond than anything I can think of.

This is how all queer relationships start, actually.

[SupremeKai25]

The genesis of Dragon Ball was “Well Japanese kids are familiar with Journey to the West” and then became “Hey Fist of the North Star is super popular just do that”

Classic Dragon Ball took inspiration from elsewhere but did its own thing with it, while Super and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Daima feel like they're just copying whatever's popular at the moment, that being One Piece.

Super isn't really similar to OP or any other anime besides Goku being a little more adventurous and some vague connection to the "power of friendship" trope in the Tournament of Power climax.

If there's a market for products that are centred around childhood nostalgia and making Millennials relive their childhood classics through new stories, it's entirely reasonably and fair to make such products. And as we see in movies, anime, videogames, basically anywhere, there's a -BIG- market around nostalgia.

Heck, half this thread is people speculating they're gonna announce an OG Dragon Ball remake.

With that being said, while Super does a lot of nostalgia pandering, it also introduces new unique characters that are totally original and interesting. Beerus, Whis, Caulifla, Kale, Cabba, Goku Black, Zamasu, Jiren, Toppo... and when they DO use old characters, many times they use them in a new and original way, like making Freeza a protagonist in the ToP saga or completely overhauling Broly's history.

[The Dark Knight]

While Super does a lot of nostalgia pandering, it also introduces new unique characters that are totally original and interesting. Beerus, Whis, Caulifla, Kale, Cabba, Goku Black, Zamasu, Jiren, Toppo...

One thing I really miss from the classic era was the time spent developing and building up the villains, especially in Z. The Freeza arc for example was over 60 episodes, while the Zamasu arc (I bring him up because I can tell you're a fan, ) was only 20 or so. Imagine a reality where the Zamasu arc was 60-70 episodes long, where the heroes are stuck playing catch up to him as he goes from universe to universe causing trouble and killing mortals. Imagine a U6 arc where instead of a tournament, Beerus takes everyone to his brother's universe to help track down this assassin who's (on the surface) killing random fighters, which is revealed to be Hit. You can go a step further and tie this into the Zamasu arc by having him be the one Hit answers to.

[JulieYBM]

While Super does a lot of nostalgia pandering, it also introduces new unique characters that are totally original and interesting. Beerus, Whis, Caulifla, Kale, Cabba, Goku Black, Zamasu, Jiren, Toppo...

One thing I really miss from the classic era was the time spent developing and building up the villains, especially in Z. The Freeza arc for example was over 60 episodes, while the Zamasu arc (I bring him up because I can tell you're a fan, ) was only 20 or so. Imagine a reality where the Zamasu arc was 60-70 episodes long, where the heroes are stuck playing catch up to him as he goes from universe to universe causing trouble and killing mortals. Imagine a U6 arc where instead of a tournament, Beerus takes everyone to his brother's universe to help track down this assassin who's (on the surface) killing random fighters, which is revealed to be Hit. You can go a step further and tie this into the Zamasu arc by having him be the one Hit answers to.

You don't need sixty episodes to flesh out a character, though. Hell, even for sixty episodes Freeza wasn't all that fleshed out given the realestate afforded him. I wouldn't say that Zamasu wasn't a well established character already in the twenty episodes he was in, but even then, one can still work within those twenty episodes to flesh him out more. You can do a lot with characters in just two cours!

[SupremeKai25]

While Super does a lot of nostalgia pandering, it also introduces new unique characters that are totally original and interesting. Beerus, Whis, Caulifla, Kale, Cabba, Goku Black, Zamasu, Jiren, Toppo...

One thing I really miss from the classic era was the time spent developing and building up the villains, especially in Z. The Freeza arc for example was over 60 episodes, while the Zamasu arc (I bring him up because I can tell you're a fan, ) was only 20 or so. Imagine a reality where the Zamasu arc was 60-70 episodes long, where the heroes are stuck playing catch up to him as he goes from universe to universe causing trouble and killing mortals. Imagine a U6 arc where instead of a tournament, Beerus takes everyone to his brother's universe to help track down this assassin who's (on the surface) killing random fighters, which is revealed to be Hit. You can go a step further and tie this into the Zamasu arc by having him be the one Hit answers to.

This isn't a strong argument. Quality is generally better than quantity.

The funny thing about the Zamasu saga is that, even having 1/4 of the episodes the DBZ arcs had, it still feels bloated, as we discussed earlier with the Pilaf gang and the unnecessary back-and-forth to the Future. Zamasu doesn't need 100 episodes of build-up, 47 was more than enough. I still remember that episode clear as day, like it was yesterday (it was actually 9 years ago, soon to be 10 this June). Goku Black's reveal episode was undeniably a big thing in anime fandom as a whole.

That's why it's so popular to theorize they will make a "DBS Kai". If you just streamlined the sagas a little bit, cutting down on the filler here and there, the experience would improve massively.

Also, as I said, quality is generally better than quantity. Adding episodes doesn't necessarily improve a story arc, and in fact might only worsen it.

As a side note, I find myself really enjoying My Hero Academia, and this format of Seasonal Anime. There's veeery little filler and bloating, which makes the rewatching experience so much more enjoyable. I hate bloating, I -DETEST- it. Maybe I'm superficial, but I just want to follow the main storyline and get right into the action without wasting time on scenes that serve no purpose and don't advance anything.

In an ideal world, DBS would have been a Seasonal Anime.

[The Dark Knight]

You don't need sixty episodes to flesh out a character, though. Hell, even for sixty episodes Freeza wasn't all that fleshed out given the realestate afforded him. I wouldn't say that Zamasu wasn't a well established character already in the twenty episodes he was in, but even then, one can still work within those twenty episodes to flesh him out more. You can do a lot with characters in just two cours!

One of the biggest issues I have with Super and Daima is that it seems like everyone behind the scenes is ready to move on before an arc even begins. We finally got to visit the demon realm in Daima, with three different worlds being set up, only for the actual adventure to feel smaller in scope compared to even the Pilaf arc, which had nearly half the episodes. The U6 arc presented a universe that was supposedly the polar opposite of U7, but instead of taking the time to actually explore that universe, we got a lame tournament with Freeza and Saiyan clones, and later Namekian clones. Although things could drag a bit during certain parts of Z and even the original DB, I never felt like I was getting shortchanged of something better; every arc felt like it was developed to its full potential. 71 (I just checked) episodes for Namek was indeed a lot, maybe even too many, but at least no corners were cut because of an episode count restriction. The episode count should depend on the story being told, not the other way around.

The funny thing about the Zamasu saga is that, even having 1/4 of the episodes the DBZ arcs had, it still feels bloated, as we discussed earlier with the Pilaf gang and the unnecessary back-and-forth to the Future. Zamasu doesn't need 100 episodes of build-up, 47 was more than enough.

A Zamasu arc with more than 20 episodes would not be restricted to Trunks' timeline, it would spread across different universes and would have a completely new story.

As a side note, I find myself really enjoying My Hero Academia, and this format of Seasonal Anime. There's veeery little filler and bloating, which makes the rewatching experience so much more enjoyable.

Although classic DB & Z were slow at times, the manga had the opposite problem: it was too fast at times. I'm always reading about fans wanting a remake that sticks exclusively to the manga, but I honestly don't think that would work very well. In an ideal world, we would get a remake (or even recut) that isn't afraid of keeping in the filler that made the overall story better.

[MasenkoHA]

The genesis of Dragon Ball was “Well Japanese kids are familiar with Journey to the West” and then became “Hey Fist of the North Star is super popular just do that”

Classic Dragon Ball took inspiration from elsewhere but did its own thing with it, while Super and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Daima feel like they're just copying whatever's popular at the moment, that being One Piece.

Classic Dragon Ball literally copied what was popular at the time in the 1980s “Fist of the North Star” this is something the editor copped to because he wanted Dragon Ball to sell well and road stories weren’t popular anymore.

[JulieYBM]

You don't need sixty episodes to flesh out a character, though. Hell, even for sixty episodes Freeza wasn't all that fleshed out given the realestate afforded him. I wouldn't say that Zamasu wasn't a well established character already in the twenty episodes he was in, but even then, one can still work within those twenty episodes to flesh him out more. You can do a lot with characters in just two cours!

One of the biggest issues I have with Super and Daima is that it seems like everyone behind the scenes is ready to move on before an arc even begins. We finally got to visit the demon realm in Daima, with three different worlds being set up, only for the actual adventure to feel smaller in scope compared to even the Pilaf arc, which had nearly half the episodes. The U6 arc presented a universe that was supposedly the polar opposite of U7, but instead of taking the time to actually explore that universe, we got a lame tournament with Freeza and Saiyan clones, and later Namekian clones. Although things could drag a bit during certain parts of Z and even the original DB, I never felt like I was getting shortchanged of something better; every arc felt like it was developed to its full potential. 71 (I just checked) episodes for Namek was indeed a lot, maybe even too many, but at least no corners were cut because of an episode count restriction. The episode count should depend on the story being told, not the other way around.

You're not cutting corners when you have a story being told effectively and concisely. Dragon Ball rarely ever does that, because the idea to to fill timeslots for as long as possible and earn profit from merchandise while regularly showing off the new toys that fund the project.

The story being told is too light for these episode counts, anyway. The Namek arc isn't 71 episodes worth of story the way that it is written. The Zamasu arc isn't twenty episodes, either. It could be done far more effectively and memorably in less than half that amount of time.

Dragon Ball Super is an improvement on Dragon Ball Z, because it's not even entirely beholden to following a weekly comic week-to-week. Even then, Super isn't perfect and can be improved upon (shorter story arcs, more episodic episodes to flesh out character arcs).

[FlpShimizu]

I'm all for Goten and Trunks being a couple, it makes sense and it would piss off the incels. We can write the weird romance with Mai out of the story, she likes Future Trunks anyway.

It's a win-win situation.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm all for Goten and Trunks being a couple, it makes sense and it would piss off the incels. We can write the weird romance with Mai out of the story, she likes Future Trunks anyway.

It's a win-win situation.

Have Mpreg Trunks or Goten while they are at it. Get Bluma or Shenlong to get it to work. It will drive off the incels even more .

[JulieYBM]

Trunks has the perfect personality for a gender-bender story protagonist: he's self-centered and clueless about everything, which makes him perfect to have to learn to deal with being a woman lol

Girl Trunks x Goten! It's settled!! lol

[MCDaveG]

Trunks has the perfect personality for a gender-bender story protagonist: he's self-centered and clueless about everything, which makes him perfect to have to learn to deal with being a woman lol

Girl Trunks x Goten! It's settled!! lol

And her name will be Tolerance