Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[The Dark Knight]

Apparently there’s a chance that there’ll just be one announcement.

This is what I said back on November 16th:

DO NOT get your hopes up with the current people in-charge over there. Those officials couldn't get their act together with Toriyama being right there holding their hands; how on earth are they going to manage now without him ? I'm still really looking forward to this event, not because I think we'll get anything worth anticipating, but rather to see just how hard they drop the ball.

[miguelnuva1]

Saw Geekdom report it might be only one announcement but he also thinks it will probably still be two but the second project could be postponed.

[Xeogran]

What the heck, this event's schedule already mentions 2 announcements + a game. Surely they couldn't have backed off

[Nanatsu88]

Sofian is mostly followed by a certain type of people and he's the one who asked Nakatsuru about KidBuu v BuuHan ("because that's what the community wanted"). He's a nice guy and I'm pals with him, but sometimes I want to shake him lol

As for the leaks, there's a big "repeated, amplified, deformed" telephone game that has happened. Sofian's source seems to be once removed from my own, so I see some distortions (let alone distortions about non french speakers who seem to forget conditional tense is a tense that exists).

3 weeks to wait

Based on your information, do you think there will be two announcements or just one, as Sofian and Geekdom recently said?

I think they said this to “damage control” in case they don't end up making the announcements, because if their source is an animator, they have no way of knowing when things will be announced.

What the heck, this event's schedule already mentions 2 announcements + a game. Surely they couldn't have backed off

Exactly! What they're saying now makes no sense. The event poster clearly states that there will be two special presentations. And they are separated by the video game announcement, so they have to be two different presentations. They're not going to cancel that now when it's been announced for two and a half months.

[The Dark Knight]

What the heck, this event's schedule already mentions 2 announcements + a game. Surely they couldn't have backed off

They've been dropping the ball in some form or another since this revival began (you can go even further back if you count GT), so is this really surprising ? Their "major" announcements will be a 4-movie box set (BOG, RF, Broly, & Superhero), a mobile game, and another special chapter from Toyotaro that ties into Superhero.

[Xeogran]

Their "major" announcements will be a 4-movie box set (BOG, RF, Broly, & Superhero), a mobile game, and another special chapter from Toyotaro that ties into Superhero.

That's too pessimistic, GS already is the new mobile game, and they also announced that Superhero is officially over.
Also I enjoyed GT greatly, so I'm not getting it involved here at all. It's also one of the only post-manga projects (other than DBO) that moved through a certain storytelling barrier.

[Cipher]

If I'd had a nickel for how each time someone "leaked" stuff who had similar credentials only for them to turn out to be completely making stuff up... Well I wouldn't be rich but I'd have a decent supply of nickels by now.

Sure, at this point there are a lot of people claiming to totally know that a remake is definitely happening, but none of them are primary sources. Is it possible that the remake thing is real? I guess, though I still think it seems like an odd decision financially, which leaves me disinclined to believe it. I certainly wouldn't treat it as anything other than a rumor until the 25th.

To be honest compared to most "leaks" this one seems the least farfetched. Toei is working on World Trigger and One Piece remakes (although the OP remake is a different studio and not sure if Toei is involved). DB is their most or second most popular franchise and they admit the Super anime was rushed so it's an opportunity to improve it while adapting the last remaining storylines involving Toriyama. The movie might be the last project he worked on and could be the final arc once the new anime gets there.

Yeah, of everything, a Super remake seems like one of the most likely projects at this point.

They have two unadapted Toriyama-supervised arcs left, which is prime material to trot out for more Dragon Ball material without having to risk going into fully studio-driven mode. Super has been off-air for six years already and presents continuity problems with the latter arcs as is, and a manga adaptation of prior arcs is yet more Toriyama content (via, again, his supervisory/correction role) even before getting into Moro and Granolah. It can also help relaunch the manga, building more cross-media hype/providing another arc for an animated adaptation.

A remake of the original series will almost certainly happen at some point, but it doesn't carry the same "new Toriyama content" appeal that those later Super arcs do.

The opening arc of the original series also poses quite a problem for modern adaptations--both in terms of content and in terms of the series starting so far afield from what it's more popularly known for providing. A hurdle to deal with sometime, but I don't know about now. A Super remake seems like a more attractive option, if you're the studio.

What I would be surprised by is if it actually winds up being this rumored Kai-esque adjustment of the original TV Super. I can't see something like that working very well. The mission with Kai was relatively straightforward if not particularly gracefully executed--cutting as much anime-only material as possible, as existed between/around manga-adapted scenes. The original Super is a narrative mess which, while it offers plenty of fat to trim, doesn't have a clear, built-in way of paring down its runtime like that, nor is it possible to try to align it to the manga version of its arcs.

[Vegard Aune]

The original Super is a narrative mess which, while it offers plenty of fat to trim, doesn't have a clear, built-in way of paring down its runtime like that, nor is it possible to try to align it to the manga version of its arcs.

Honestly, outside of the Beerus and Freeza arcs, I'm not sure I agree that Super had that much fat to trim. I mean obviously the Tournament of Power was kind of absurd in how it was over half a year of Namek time, but since Super was conceptualized as a TV show from the outset, I'd say the story moved at a pretty competent pace most of the time? Like, enough stuff happened in each episode to where the arcs largely were as long as they needed to be? Again, Beerus and Freeza being outliers. Even with the Tournament of Power it technically made sense for it to be as long as it was just due to it having more characters and fights than a modern One Piece arc. Though admittedly it still shot itself in the leg somewhat with the "48 minutes" thing that the narrator kept reminding us of, and it did result in a solid fourth of all of Super being set entirely in one pretty bland location...

Though yeah, the point that trying to cut down Super as it exists would be tricky is one I very much agree with. Then again, Japan does like to make those compilation movies of TV shows, so it's not like there isn't a precedent for just grabbing a thing that was made from the outset to be paced a certain way and just chopping it down. I just can't see that working very well, though.

We shall see, though. Less than three weeks to go now, and then we can finally stop speculating what may or may not be coming.

[Mr Baggins]

The anime's Tournament of Power is complete garbage, from start to finish.

The entire thing is pure, unadulterated bloat that is far too frequently derailed by minor fodder enemies with no narrative significance whatsoever. There's no sense of cohesion from episode to episode because the writers all had different ideas about where they wanted things to go, with its constant attempts at drama always feeling artificial and forced due to all the badly flanderized character writing alongside the lack of any peaks and valleys (or buildup) for said drama to ensure any of it is impactful. There's also zero internal consistency; how many times were people told a character was "out of stamina" only for all that shit to go completely ignored in the following episodes? Why does the script treat everybody's techniques like videogame moves with Goku pulling genkidamas out of his ass or Vegeta "self-destructing" without instantly turning into ash? This is all terrible storytelling. The whole thing is all fat and basically no meat.

And even if we're comparing the 'meat' within the different versions of this arc, the writing of specific ideas such as Goku's Ultra Instinct and Jiren's internal conflict are flat as fucking cardboard in the anime because there's no pathos to give anyone a clear idea of where they were even going with these plotlines, quite contrary to the manga's immaculate execution of both. The anime's "Pokemon of the Week" like structure is contradictory to the tournament being a literal battle royale, quite contrary to the manga being chaotic with its eliminations and using that to service the narrative. The peanut gallery in general have a ton of wasted, repetitive dialogue, quite contrary to the manga mostly only using them when appropriate. I could keep going, but the point is the manga is a far more focused and tightly paced version of this story with even higher highs and basically none of the lows.

The anime and manga iterations of the ToP, despite operating from the same premise, are akin to the difference between a 4 and an 8. I'd gladly take an animated version of the latter over some dreadful repeat of the former any day of the week.

[JulieYBM]

The original Super is a narrative mess which, while it offers plenty of fat to trim, doesn't have a clear, built-in way of paring down its runtime like that, nor is it possible to try to align it to the manga version of its arcs.

Honestly, outside of the Beerus and Freeza arcs, I'm not sure I agree that Super had that much fat to trim. I mean obviously the Tournament of Power was kind of absurd in how it was over half a year of Namek time, but since Super was conceptualized as a TV show from the outset, I'd say the story moved at a pretty competent pace most of the time? Like, enough stuff happened in each episode to where the arcs largely were as long as they needed to be? Again, Beerus and Freeza being outliers. Even with the Tournament of Power it technically made sense for it to be as long as it was just due to it having more characters and fights than a modern One Piece arc. Though admittedly it still shot itself in the leg somewhat with the "48 minutes" thing that the narrator kept reminding us of, and it did result in a solid fourth of all of Super being set entirely in one pretty bland location...

Though yeah, the point that trying to cut down Super as it exists would be tricky is one I very much agree with. Then again, Japan does like to make those compilation movies of TV shows, so it's not like there isn't a precedent for just grabbing a thing that was made from the outset to be paced a certain way and just chopping it down. I just can't see that working very well, though.

We shall see, though. Less than three weeks to go now, and then we can finally stop speculating what may or may not be coming.

Eh, I think that the Universe 6 and Future Trunks arcs really work better as six to eight episode story arcs, but that requires a ground-up remake and not some shitty edit ala the Fish-Man Island arc Special Edition. The Tournament of Power at least has character arcs set up and ready to be fleshed out.

[Mr Baggins]

I spent so much time rambling about the Tournament of Power that I neglected to mention the other two arcs.

Those are also very lame and bloated compared to the manga's versions. I remember entire episodes of Future Trunks where nothing of significance happened, and I also didn't care at all for how Zamasu was written as a character there.

I guess if there's a point I'd like to make here, it's... yeah, give us a real damn manga adaptation already. I'd like that a lot.

[Koitsukai]

So from two announcementes we are down to one?
I’ll act surprised when it turns out to be the same ol', same ol', slapped onto a blu-ray remastered and recoloured, but with a new hat.

About a remake, I wouldn't mind if it's brief enough to have us jump into the manga-exclusive stories in no time. There's been so many versions of the same storybeats that I just don't care about it anymore.
Also, what's Mistare Fusion going to do now? a fifth version of BoG to dissect? the man will end up in a mental health institution.

[YamiGoku]

I can't believe there are people that like the Manga TOP, for me is the worst manga arc and on par with Res F arc (anime) levels of bad, it was so bad that trying to reed it was like getting punched in the face, youtubers were making videos of how bad and rushed it was, and how trash it looked with so many panels cramed per page.

I would still take the manga story remake over nothing, but i would like if they improve some parts.

[SupremeKai25]

A manga adaptation is very unlikely. The manga arcs are all rushed, barebones, skeleton versions of their anime counterparts. There's no point in wasting money on an inferior and more boring version of the story.

A new movie or Super Kai are way more plausible.

The official website also said that there will be a separate videogame announcement... literally what their official website said. So I hope it's Kakarot 2 with Super material, finally.

[IntangibleFancy]

I keep seeing people say the whole one announcement thing is because of legal disputes, but that doesn’t sound right at all. Shueisha is directly involved in this through Uchida, and didn’t they actually promote this event too? I’m no expert on legal disputes, but wouldn’t they have had to come to some sort of agreement and wouldn’t they cancel the event altogether if that agreement didn’t pan out?

I think it’s more likely that there was going to be one announcement all along, and it being broken up into two parts just convinced everyone there were two projects, including all the popular influencers who are now covering their hides now that we’re like 3 weeks away. It’s easier to lie about it and/or blame it on a legal dispute than admit you messed up and potentially lose credibility

[taikufuru]

This smells to me like someone trying to minimize the damage of a fabricated story to avoid the wrath of their followers.

This justification is stupid when you understand the basics of how a series is produced, especially one that's at a stage where there are rumors circulating about key scenes, people involved in the production, gengas scattered around and speculation about the content that will be added.

A series only begins production when the production committee formed by Shueisha, CC Tokyo, Fuji TV, and the merchandising companies gives the green light and starts planning everything, hiring people and so on.

If there really is this impasse between these companies, it's not that the series has been postponed; it simply doesn't exist, and these speculations about the remake/remaster are false.

[Mr Baggins]

This smells to me like someone trying to minimize the damage of a fabricated story to avoid the wrath of their followers.

These three principles of mine have never steered me wrong:

1. I don't watch youtubers
2. I don't care about youtubers (or their opinions)
3. In the unfortunate event that a youtuber rumor happens to come within earshot, I take that rumor with the tiniest grain of salt and carry on

Live by them and be free, my friends.

[taikufuru]

I follow the same principle.

[The Dark Knight]

If anyone was interested in Daima's events becoming "canon" to Super, that may be a wish beyond Shenron's capabilities. A new rumor going around is that the rights holders have decided to leave Daima alone and are not taking its events into account with this new remake/remaster. I speculated a week or so ago that Toei and the other parties involved may do this out of respect for Toriyama, as that was the project he was most involved with since this revival began. Could things change 10 years from now ? of course, but as of today, it seems like the plan is just to leave it be. With that said, that doesn't mean we can't get a different version of Ssj4 made specifically for the Super continuity that follows SsjG, Blue, and Ultra Instinct. We could theoretically get a Ssj3 Vegeta with the classic long hair that looks like Goku and Gotenks'; it's just that the characters and events in Daima will be left alone, but those two forms can and will likely be used again.

I think it’s more likely that there was going to be one announcement all along, and it being broken up into two parts just convinced everyone there were two projects, including all the popular influencers who are now covering their hides now that we’re like 3 weeks away. It’s easier to lie about it and/or blame it on a legal dispute than admit you messed up and potentially lose credibility.

The official announcement regarding this event was that we were going to get three major announcements, so this wasn't something made up by fans. One of these announcements is a new video game, which is still getting announced. The Super remake/remaster seems to be a safe bet as a result of it being far along enough in its production. The rumor going around now is that the third announcement, which was rumored to be a new movie, is getting delayed.

[Xeogran]

If anyone was interested in Daima's events becoming "canon" to Super, that may be a wish beyond Shenron's capabilities.

Not to mention, they wouldn't to do so much disservice to a new variant of SS4 to make it get fodderized by Beerus. That's not how you sell a fancy new form, especially since it's still got tons of merch to come (and DLC appearances in heavy hitters like FighterZ). People thinking it would appear on King Kai's Planet in that fight aren't taking many things into their attention.

It would also be doing disservice to Toriyama's legacy itself considering it's the last thing he left us with.