Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[taikufuru]

Well, if they mess up the second attempt, they can try again in five years. After all, it's improving, isn't it? Personally, I'd stay in this endless cycle. In 2036, there will be children who didn't watch the series in 2026, so they'll make a new version for them.

Welcome to GeGeGe no Kitarou, which has done a new, rebooted animated series every decade since the 1960s.

Where do you think I got that from?

[Kenji]

Of course enhancing something isn't the highest form of artistic integrity or whatever, but does everything need to be? Kinda baffled, like yeah, I'm not super hyped for it either, but it's cool that we are getting an improved product, what's bad about it exactly?

Other than the fact a good-looking, better-paced and written BoG and RoF already exist?
Absolutely nothing. I am glad they are improving on areas that needed improvement.

[taikufuru]

I don't much see the point of bothering to brand something as 'pointless' given that it's going to exist for the rest of time anyway. If it's good, good. If it's bad, that sucks, maybe they'll do it better next time. Like, I think Dragon Ball Evolution and Fukkatsu no F are bad films, I don't go around watching them everyday and complaining about them. I hardly had the time to watch shit I do like lol

Your example is curious because this remaster is very much aimed at people who had problems with the Dragon Ball Super TV series and also made a point of complaining about it every day. The reward is getting a new version, because the audience has become spoiled and can't handle the fact that something didn't happen the way they wanted. They don't know how to deal with rejection.

Anyone here, please tell me what the creative appeal of this is? Please, without repeating marketing bravado about "adjusting this to Toriyama's original vision and blah, blah, blah..." or "this is to prepare the audience to watch the Moro arc." They didn't even mention the DIRECTOR behind the project.

"This is just a disposable commercial cartoon. Relax."

Why are we even here in this forum? Because people have been talking about this for over thirty years. Please, dismantling the argument isn't the most interesting thing here.

[Kenji]

I agree with you capitalism is bad and so on. One thing though. You shouldnt fool yourself. Your take of "Toei should do a new original story" is just as "capitalist" and "unprincipled". Capitalism is bad sure, but any sort of official anime has to engage with capitalism. I do agree with you. I really do. And capitalism IS a major evil in the world.

Yes, I do understand how there's a hint of hypocrisy with complaining about capitalism and interacting with commercial art made by huge companies like this.

My point with that post was that Toei really doesn't deserve that much credit for providing the bare minimum that is an anime production not made with animators being crunched to death with hideous-looking results. If the intent was to fix the errors of their ways, I would much rather they just move forward, treat their creatives better, and put this behind them, honestly.

Just don't expect me to give you reassurance when you complain that the fandom is never happy with anything for Toei's bullshit treatment of their creatives or their piss-poor attempt at "remedying" it, as if "the fandom" is this one unified being with the exact same mindset and criticisms.

[Yellow Flower King]

I agree with you capitalism is bad and so on. One thing though. You shouldnt fool yourself. Your take of "Toei should do a new original story" is just as "capitalist" and "unprincipled". Capitalism is bad sure, but any sort of official anime has to engage with capitalism. I do agree with you. I really do. And capitalism IS a major evil in the world.

Yes, I do understand how there's a hint of hypocrisy with complaining about capitalism and interacting with commercial art made by huge companies like this.

My point with that post was that Toei really doesn't deserve that much credit for providing the bare minimum that is an anime production not made with animators being crunched to death with hideous-looking results. I would much rather they just move forward, treat their creatives better, and put this behind them, honestly.

That's more like it! Great take!

[GTx10]

I keep seeing the phrase "to remind audiences of what DBS is..." Who doesn't know what Dragon Ball Super is? Let alone what DB is. Is this refresher course really needed?

Wouldn't airing the movies on TV serve the same purpose and cut costs?

All the ten year old kids who didn't watch Dragon Ball Super in 2025 because they weren't alive.

Exactly, it's crazy that this question keeps getting asked lol there's always potential for new audience, always.

Well to be it was a legitimate question. While I disagree about starting audiences off on Super as opposed to og DB I can't fault the logic. I got a friend into DB and he finished Super. I barely now got him to start slogging through og DB.

Now that Super is back he is only talking about that... I'm very disappointed.

[JulieYBM]

I don't much see the point of bothering to brand something as 'pointless' given that it's going to exist for the rest of time anyway. If it's good, good. If it's bad, that sucks, maybe they'll do it better next time. Like, I think Dragon Ball Evolution and Fukkatsu no F are bad films, I don't go around watching them everyday and complaining about them. I hardly had the time to watch shit I do like lol

Your example is curious because this remaster is very much aimed at people who had problems with the Dragon Ball Super TV series and also made a point of complaining about it every day. The reward is getting a new version, because the audience has become spoiled and can't handle the fact that something didn't happen the way they wanted. They don't know how to deal with rejection.

Anyone here, please tell me what the creative appeal of this is? Please, without repeating marketing bravado about "adjusting this to Toriyama's original vision and blah, blah, blah..." or "this is to prepare the audience to watch the Moro arc." They didn't even mention the DIRECTOR behind the project.

"This is just a disposable commercial cartoon. Relax."

Why are we even here in this forum? Because people have been talking about this for over thirty years. Please, dismantling the argument isn't the most interesting thing here.

Shrug. I don't have an opinion on something that I haven't seen yet, so I'll get back to you then.

[taikufuru]

As if the question were about whether the content was good or bad

[JulieYBM]

As if the question were about whether the content was good or bad

All commercial projects exist to sell a product and make profit, whether we as an audience or critics might universally hail said project as being True Art or whathaveyou. Even when a passion project is funded by a commercial company, it is done so hoping to make a profit back. Ultimately, what matters is whether that project is well and passionately crafted despite being a commercial work.

[The Dark Knight]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

This announcement has me convinced there are fans who hate shit just for the sake of hating and being negative.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes.

There's a rumor going around that the content from episode 5 will mostly be re-drawn from the ground up.

Is making the animation prettier really going to fix all the writing, pacing and storytelling issues? I don't think so.

Here's the thing, they're fixing the pacing and writing. The arcs themselves will be cut in half, while certain lines are being re-recorded to make the story more serious, such as Goku not being an idiot 24/7. Everything that was wrong with Super the first time around is basically being fixed.

Where are people seeing it's "just six episodes"? Any actual and official source stated that?

Ajay confirmed both BOG and RF will have 6 episodes each.

Do you guys think they'll flat out remake some of the bigger fights, like SSB Goku vs Frieza, and Vegito vs Zamasu?

If the rumor about Goku Vs. Beerus on King Kai's plaent getting remade are accurate, then I can definitely see major parts of the Freeza fight getting the same treatment. Vegeta's beat down on Freeza was fine, so I expect that to be left as is, same with Vegetto's fight against Zamasu, although I can see both getting enhanced somehow.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Where are people seeing it's "just six episodes"? Any actual and official source stated that?

From Ajay, I guess. Take it with a huge amount of salt.

[JulieYBM]

Where are people seeing it's "just six episodes"? Any actual and official source stated that?

From Ajay, I guess. Take it with a huge amount of salt.

Ajay's been pretty consistently solid as a source, especially on Daima. If he's saying there's six episodes, it's a reliable source.

[taikufuru]

As if the question were about whether the content was good or bad

All commercial projects exist to sell a product and make profit, whether we as an audience or critics might universally hail said project as being True Art or whathaveyou. Even when a passion project is funded by a commercial company, it is done so hoping to make a profit back. Ultimately, what matters is whether that project is well and passionately crafted despite being a commercial work.

And water is wet. The question was so simple, but okay.

[kiarasuraru]

I've seen a lot of mixed feelings about the announcements.
The biggest thing to take away is that the franchise is seemingly finally out from that limbo it has been for years. I guess Iyoku won at the end? That's exactly why things are happening this way. That years long limbo.

This is basically a revitalization/rebranding of the franchise. It's really easy to forget but Super's over 10 years now.
They have to establish a new foundation for this post-Toriyama death era. Giving Super a glow-up is not the worst of ideas because of its dubious animation quality at times, and it's way way easier than making an actual real brand new anime too. Be it a remake or an entirely new thing. Two birds with one stone. Three, even, maybe even four, since with this they buying up time until the really new stuff is getting made and also leading up to it. Keeps momentum going. Keeps people engaged. Doing this this way lets them also continue using the projects Toriyama was involved, makes things continue to feel authentic.
Do we seriously need BoG a FOURTH time? No, not really. It's kinda lame, but I "get it". It's really easy to see all the logic of all that's happening right now.
No matter how much people love to pretend otherwise, at the end of the day, this is a business.

Things get dire after they do Granolah though. They'll run out of Toriyama stickers to slap on things after it.
If I were a betting person I would put a lot of money in that after all the Super stuff is truly well over and done we'll be getting an OG manga remake right afterwards. Nowaza is not getting any younger, and neither is a ton of the cast either. It would be the perfect time to start over in that regard like it has happened with so many franchises nowadays that get brand new casts when they get reboots or remakes. Sooner or later that's gonna happen to Dragon Ball too.

We're NEVER getting past EoZ no matter what. They were scared out of their minds then and now even more so without Toriyama being there to come up with something. Age 1000 maybe will do it, if it's a DBO-related thing anyway, but it's a game so let's be honest, to most people it won't count. People already ignore DBO despite how heavily involved Toriyama was on that.

Something that really got me thinking after I noticed it is how there was no news at all about anything manga and not even a mention of Toyotaro in anything. Like, okay, sure, we all know they will plaster Toriyama name on everything and pretend he had 50 years of backlog to give everything a feeling of "legitimacy" but at least put the dude's name second.
Assuming is Iyoku won the legal mess, or whatever was the agreement that finally let things move forward and start to happen, seems like the was the big loser of it. I kind of feel bad for him.

Who knows where will things end at now but at least things are finally moving again. That's something, right?

[JulieYBM]

Weirdest case scenario: by claiming that Toriyama was responsible for the creation of Moro, Iyoku is somehow getting away from needing to credit and work with Shueisha and Toyotarou. This is the same guy who just decided to make a Sandland film and series without consulting Shueisha, after all.

That or I'm completely wrong and there's some sort of agreement with Shueisha, who the fuck knows lol

[The Dark Knight]

Here's a quote from Ajay regarding the remake: "You can look forward to much more dramatic changes moving forward into the next arc". That next arc would be Resurrection F, so despite so many changes being made to Battle of Gods, it seems like they will be even more substantial for RF. Considering that arc was falling apart right in front of our eyes, especially towards the end, I can't say I'm too surprised with this. The more I think about what a train wreck Super was, the more I realize that it's in desperate need of this project, especially with it moving forward with the manga's arcs in the quality of Broly and Daima.

Weirdest case scenario: by claiming that Toriyama was responsible for the creation of Moro, Iyoku is somehow getting away from needing to credit and work with Shueisha and Toyotarou. This is the same guy who just decided to make a Sandland film and series without consulting Shueisha, after all.

That or I'm completely wrong and there's some sort of agreement with Shueisha, who the fuck knows lol

The manga outside of Japan has been crediting Toriyama with the story since the manga began, so this isn't exactly new.

[mecha3000]

Y'know, with this announcement, I've already noticed something kind of annoying. How everyone and their mother who fell off Dragon Ball is suddenly jumping back on the bandwagon again. And I'm not blaming them because it's been pretty dry for the past few years besides Super Hero and Daima. But it goes back to something Geekdom101 said when the Super anime originally ended back in 2018 - It basically amounted to something along the lines of "Let's see who was a real fan among the normies or who was just a grifter". Something like that. Basically he was saying that some people just used Super for clout and views and when it ended, had nothing more to offer with their videos and content, etc.

But now, we're going to see a bunch of reaction channels and couples making videos reacting to Super and adding absolutely NOTHING to the conversation. I guess I'm cynical when it comes to that, but it will be kind of annoying. Then again, it's not like I have to watch that content. I can just ignore it, but still, seeing the thumbnails with the fake hyped faces will be annoying to deal with. I'm an asshole, I know.

Also, side note, the countdown with the Dragon Balls they did when the event reached seven seconds until starting was a really nice touch. And I liked the music they chose while we waited.

[MasenkoHA]

Of course enhancing something isn't the highest form of artistic integrity or whatever, but does everything need to be? Kinda baffled, like yeah, I'm not super hyped for it either, but it's cool that we are getting an improved product, what's bad about it exactly?

Other than the fact a good-looking, better-paced and written BoG and RoF already exist?
Absolutely nothing. I am glad they are improving on areas that needed improvement.

Admittedly they should just skip straight to Champa but I’m guessing FujiTv wants something for the fall 2026 schedule and they want this last about a year to lead into Galactic Patrol for fall 2027. I know the counter argument is take out Beerus and Golden Freeza and Super is still around 100 episodes and would just need to be cut in half but I guess this is easier?

[kiarasuraru]

Y'know, with this announcement, I've already noticed something kind of annoying. How everyone and their mother who fell off Dragon Ball is suddenly jumping back on the bandwagon again. And I'm not blaming them because it's been pretty dry for the past few years besides Super Hero and Daima. But it goes back to something Geekdom101 said when the Super anime originally ended back in 2018 - It basically amounted to something along the lines of "Let's see who was a real fan among the normies or who was just a grifter". Something like that. Basically he was saying that some people just used Super for clout and views and when it ended, had nothing more to offer with their videos and content, etc.

But now, we're going to see a bunch of reaction channels and couples making videos reacting to Super and adding absolutely NOTHING to the conversation. I guess I'm cynical when it comes to that, but it will be kind of annoying. Then again, it's not like I have to watch that content. I can just ignore it, but still, seeing the thumbnails with the fake hyped faces will be annoying to deal with. I'm an asshole, I know.

You can't say that! Don't you know? That's gatekeeping! Gatekeeping is bad!

To be fair, all that stuff was going even back then all those years ago. It was relatively tame compared to how things are now though.
You know what's gonna be REAL bad? Seeing this new era anime discourse but with Dragon Ball flavor. Say, for example, all this dreadful and horrifying JJK stuff from the past few days between the worldwide and Japanese fanbase? All the stuff that's been going with One Piece ever since it truly got popular worldwide?
Now enjoy that type of lovely online discussion happening with Super since back when Super fist aired things weren't as... let's say, "developed", to put in kindly, as they are nowadays.

[SupremeKai25]

We're NEVER getting past EoZ no matter what. They were scared out of their minds then and now even more so without Toriyama being there to come up with something. Age 1000 maybe will do it, if it's a DBO-related thing anyway, but it's a game so let's be honest, to most people it won't count. People already ignore DBO despite how heavily involved Toriyama was on that.

Good. The ending of Z is the ending Toriyama intended and it's a fantastic send-off to Dragon Ball.

But that's also no excuse to half-ass the ending to Super.

Ideally they will cap off Super with a remake of the ending of Z, keeping the core plot points intact (Goku vs. Uub and Goku leaving for new adventures) while also tying the loose ends with Super (namely Beerus and Whis and what they are doing when Goku's training Uub).

I think the ending of Z is better than the ending of GT and I don't want Super to go beyond Z.

This seems to be a terribly unpopular opinion online.